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Needle Phobia Needs Orals

TheDarkSage

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Hey bro's here is my problem... I can't do injections, so I need orals, and I need a solid source for orals.
I don't much care if they are domestic or international as long as they are a legit source and not over priced.
To answer everyone's first question: Yes I have read the sources reviews, but they all seem to be about the needle I can't do needles not even at the doctors office. Suffice it to say I had a very fucked up childhood and needles are out of the question!
I have to take everything in pill form or be given an oral sedative to take an injection or give blood...so you see the problem for me.

I have only been on 2 oral cycles and had great gains in size and strength, but it was all by accident thanks to a KiloSports product called Trenadrol which got banned for having steroids and came back as Trenadrol X and got banned again! I knew something was up 4 weeks in and I started yelling at everybody in the house, had increased my bench by 60 lbs and my nipples started itching (Dead Giveaway) and that made me realize I should also start my liver and kidney protection around the same time not knowing what was really in Trenadrol.

Now I want to do it right by knowing what I am taking from the start, so I can get back those great gains...and KEEP THEM!
I was thinking about going with myroidshop.com because they carry everything I want, but haven't heard enough about them and only 6 or 7 reviews here and all from noobs like me.

ANY and ALL HELP WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Thanks in advance Bro's :cool:
 
Be careful. Using orals can shut down your natural testosterone, just like injectable steroids. Using them without a testosterone base can destroy your sex drive.
 
Running just orals is miserable... Ull fell like death by your third week, and you won't last long your gains will be crap compares to running a legit cycle, pinning isn't bad bro I hate shots at the doctors to haha it's different. It was hard for everybody the first time but I say man up and do it! If you refuse to do it and keep cycling with orals get blood test done Very regularly use liver/ kidney supports and drink fuck loads of water. If you don't be carful doing this you'll wake up one morning and shit out a kidney lol good luck bro
 
get some RS transaderm as your test base (its a topical testosterone, no injections needed) and run your orals.. guys who bitch about orals run them at too high doses.. you gotta run them at the proper dose and make sure you are running your support supps.. so here is what I recommend for example

RS transaderm 8 weeks
click this link for codes and link>>> http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/ruthlesssupplements/rs-transaderm-discounts-4595.html or PM me for discounts

then pick an oral you want. you can use a pro hormone from myproH.com which are legal, or you can pick an oral anabolic steroid from a source. its up to you. (again PM me for sources or if you want a discount from my pro H stuff)

then make sure you have your support supps on hand.. I recommend n2guard

always here to help
 
Thanks Jras98 I am very much aware of these facts and am still doing research on just what test base I want to go with.
Any suggestions for me to research?
 
As stated I have ran just orals before I just didn't know it until I started showing signs in week 3 or 4, I didn't however feel "like death" at any point.
As a matter of fact just the opposite, Full of energy, always wanting to workout or do something...anything, just go, go, go!
Kinda felt like I was on some sort of upper thinking back on it. Again I don't know exactly what was in Trenadrol and Trenadrol X but whatever it was it was GREAT!

I already drink what I feel is a lot of water... around a gallon a day because I like to be in the California sun when I do cardio versus the gym bike or treadmill.
So I think I'm good on that part. IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THINKS IT SHOULD BE MORE LET ME KNOW!

Only lost my gains after a really bad car accident that fucked up my back...couldn't workout for a year and half and couldn't stop eating like I was working out!
So today I look like one of those guys that you could tell he used to workout way back when, but now has a belly and boobs...and that shit has to change!
Can't stand to see my son walking around with a six pack (because of training with me!) and me looking Billy Beer Belly...gotta change...did I mention I'm in my mid-40's

BIG THANKS I really appreciate your input GH13
 
Thanks stevesmi I will need to do some research on RS Transaderm, but initial Google looks good.
Don't really have the time now to go through all the reviews now but will later.
I will def PM you about sources as I get near completing my research...glad I found this forum.
Again thanks!
 
Sorry about that...I was talking to 13bret he said "I wouldnt trust a review from someone with less than 5 posts."
 
Thanks bro, I have seen that cycle and I was thinking about running the below modified Beginners Oral Cycle for 6 weeks not 8 weeks and off cycle 4 weeks not 5 weeks to see how my body would react. As you can see the off cycle is the same as the Wolfgang post just taking off a week. If everything goes according to plan I will most likely up the annie and winny dose to Wolfgang levels. Any comments or suggestions?

Week Anavar Winstrol Cytomel T3 RS N2Guard
Transaderm
1 10mgs per day 30mgs per day 25mcgs per day 0 7 caps per day
2 10mgs per day 30mgs per day 25mcgs per day 0 7 caps per day
3 20mgs per day 40mgs per day -OFF- 0 7 caps per day
4 20mgs per day 50mgs per day -OFF 0 7 caps per day
5 20mgs per day 60mgs per day -OFF- 0 7 caps per day
6 10mgs per day 30mgs per day -OFF- 0 7 caps per day
7 10mgs per day 30mgs per day 25mcgs per day 0 7 caps per day
8 10mgs per day 30mgs per day 25mcgs per day 0 7 caps per day

Still doing research on RS Transaderm and other test base.

Week
Clomid Nolvadex HCGenerate Ostarine N2Guard
1 5 caps per day 25mgs per day 7 caps per day
2 100mgs per day 40mgs per day 5 caps per day 25mgs per day 7 caps per day
3 50mgs per day 20mgs per day 5 caps per day 12.5mgs per day 7 caps per day
4 25mgs per day 10mgs per day 3 caps per day 7.5mgs per day 7 caps per day
5 12.5mgs per day 10mgs per day 2 caps per day -OFF- 7 caps per day
 
Well brother hate to say it but you gotta face the needle phobeia you can really step your game up hard once you break through that wall.
Good luck to ya!
 
KillaBig said:
Well brother hate to say it but you gotta face the needle phobeia you can really step your game up hard once you break through that wall.
Good luck to ya!
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I was thinking that from the beginning. But hey - it is what it is. I wasn't thrilled about the pin either, but just did it. It was not bad at all. It's all in your head - bottom line.
 
snackmachine said:
I was thinking that from the beginning. But hey - it is what it is. I wasn't thrilled about the pin either, but just did it. It was not bad at all. It's all in your head - bottom line.
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And after a while.. you develop a sick sort of love for it... I love it.
 
Littledog said:
Hell ya bro..after pinin Monday I want to pin everyday... Lol


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i really look forward to the trap and calm injection days..just doesnt get any better than that.

on a serious note...after my first pin I was kind of hooked like a dirty junky haha. the only days I dont look forward to injection are my right delt cuz im not flexible enough
 
Ok so there are ways around pinning. There are some very opinionated guys on here and I respect that! However always running orals even 4 weeks in 4 weeks off eventually will catch up to you. Transdermals are to my knowledge very pricy injectable testosterone is cheep and far more effective. It's also harder to keep stable levels with transdermal testosterone and I'll explain why. There are too many variables and sweating is a huge one and as you mentioned you tend to sweat a lot due to your location. Swimming, going in direct sunlight and even clothing can all effect your absorption rate. Long story short there somewhat effective in my opinion but not as efficient as injectable testosterone plain and simple.
 
Flowhand1 said:
i really look forward to the trap and calm injection days..just doesnt get any better than that.

on a serious note...after my first pin I was kind of hooked like a dirty junky haha. the only days I dont look forward to injection are my right delt cuz im not flexible enough
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Bro, you inject your traps?
 
Man I know you have a huge needle phobia, but -

Injecting yourself is a million times better than a doctor injecting you. They're used to dealing with screaming kids, so they slam the needle in, punch in the drugs, and then whip it out. Hurts like a bitch and bruises the muscle. Slow, controlled gear injections are reasonably pleasant and not very painful at all.

Ultimately, if you inject your results are going to be far superior to orals. And like the guys have all said - once you do it, and you see the gains, you actually get excited about your injection days. Mentally you just see it as injecting some liquid gainzz
 
^^^^ very true liftin! And king big be nice lol(I laughed my ass of when I saw that haha)
 
You guys can tear me a new asshole, but jesus christ. Pinning isn't that bad. Get over it. You can back fill an insulin pin and use that no problem if you are that phobia about a needle.
Insulin pins don't even feel it. You just have to be on the lean side to make sure you get it in the muscle. If you can't pin, then you should get out of this game. Orals will make you so damn lethargic and feel like shit.
 
TheDarkSage said:
Hey bro's here is my problem... I can't do injections, so I need orals, and I need a solid source for orals.
I don't much care if they are domestic or international as long as they are a legit source and not over priced.
To answer everyone's first question: Yes I have read the sources reviews, but they all seem to be about the needle I can't do needles not even at the doctors office. Suffice it to say I had a very fucked up childhood and needles are out of the question!
I have to take everything in pill form or be given an oral sedative to take an injection or give blood...so you see the problem for me.

I have only been on 2 oral cycles and had great gains in size and strength, but it was all by accident thanks to a KiloSports product called Trenadrol which got banned for having steroids and came back as Trenadrol X and got banned again! I knew something was up 4 weeks in and I started yelling at everybody in the house, had increased my bench by 60 lbs and my nipples started itching (Dead Giveaway) and that made me realize I should also start my liver and kidney protection around the same time not knowing what was really in Trenadrol.

Now I want to do it right by knowing what I am taking from the start, so I can get back those great gains...and KEEP THEM!
I was thinking about going with myroidshop.com because they carry everything I want, but haven't heard enough about them and only 6 or 7 reviews here and all from noobs like me.

ANY and ALL HELP WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Thanks in advance Bro's :cool:
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Stupid Idea, Get over your little pussy phobia. Pinning is fun.
 
Hahahahahahaha^ you guys are brutal. But seriously bro trenadrol was serious shit it contained methyl tren not a prohormone to tren hence the 3 mg dosage I saw a kid put on over 30 lbs of solid mass whith that shit( in three cycles not properly spaced) kid dident even eat rite! So if your looking for a prohormone that will compare... You won't find one! I never took it because after m1t and superdrol were banned I figured all ph's or designers were shot in comparison but this particular pro steroid stood out. If you want trenidrol like gains talk to CEO about methyl tren hell fill you in on it, ds Carries it. Plan on losing atleast half your gains if you run a four week cycle and do time on+ pct aka 8 weeks and that's IF you train rite and eat right. What are your stats? I ask because u wanna "get them gains back" that's the problem with oral only... There hard to keep! You don't even wanna talk about a fucked up childhood.. Idk your situation but I no mine, and if you were hardend by your childhood than you no things can be a lot Worce than a pin in the ass!
 
Gearhead13 said:
You don't even wanna talk about a fucked up childhood.. Idk your situation but I no mine, and if you were hardend by your childhood than you no things can be a lot Worce than a pin in the ass!
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haha, got that right! I was beat on the ass black and blue with wire hangers and extension cords. A pin in the ass or delt is nothing!
 
Man up! There's not one pro.... Not one that runs oral only.... If you wanna hang w the big dogs this is somthing ull need to get over! If your goal isn't to be a mass monster terminator lookin motherfucker and your just trying to look good on the beach do it natty and don't fuck up your t levels... If you do your so fucked because standard trt isn't an option for you and as I said in my previous post the gel sux unless u like ur woman groing a mini dick n chin hair from rubbing up against you in bed...
 
JM750 said:
haha, got that right! I was beat on the ass black and blue with wire hangers and extension cords. A pin in the ass or delt is nothing!
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... I no rite idk were this kid is coming from... It's a cop out!
 
Gearhead13 said:
... I no rite idk were this kid is coming from... It's a cop out!
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LOL, thanks for the friend request! In all honesty, I've been on a lot of boards, and this board is very mild on guys with shit like this. Other boards would have already renamed him Mary.
 
I wanna be big but I don't wanna inject... Then u don't wanna be big bad enough u just kinda want it


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Ha no problem my brotha we think alike! This kids probably 23 and eats like a mouse! Were being role models here lol. But in all seroiusness my girl could stick a 25g in my thigh while I was sleeping and I wouldent wake up... I mean really.... you don't even feel it...especially w a 1/2 inch in the delt!! That's my sweet spot;) lol
 
Gearhead13 said:
Ha no problem my brotha we think alike! This kids probably 23 and eats like a mouse! Were being role models here lol. But in all seroiusness my girl could stick a 25g in my thigh while I was sleeping and I wouldent wake up... I mean really.... you don't even feel it...especially w a 1/2 inch in the delt!! That's my sweet spot;) lol
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I'm lean enough to get a 5/8 X 25g in the ass no problem. I was using 1-1/2 long X 23 and got sick of the scar tissue building up. LOL
 
Transdermal is only 10 percent bioavailable so how about we all shoot tren no ester daily


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Gearhead13 said:
Man up! There's not one pro.... Not one that runs oral only.... If you wanna hang w the big dogs this is somthing ull need to get over! If your goal isn't to be a mass monster terminator lookin motherfucker and your just trying to look good on the beach do it natty and don't fuck up your t levels... If you do your so fucked because standard trt isn't an option for you and as I said in my previous post the gel sux unless u like ur woman groing a mini dick n chin hair from rubbing up against you in bed...
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Good advice
 
I am only replying to this to clarify...It's not a stupid little pussy phobia.
I didn't know how else to word it and phobia seemed right at the time.
As stated I had a fucked up childhood...what that really means is as a child I was tortured by my older
brothers with...you guessed it pins and needles more specifically my mothers hat pins and sewing needles for years.
Covered by a blankets and having them stick pins and needles through it repeatedly and of course if I told it was worst next time and there was always a next time.
So, long story short you don't get over that type of shit easy if ever, just ask any abused kid that is now an adult.
 
It would be you poking the pin, not them. It does not hurt. IMHO, get over it or get another hobby.

If you don't get over it, YOU are deciding to let them win, and you decide to continue to be their victim. I say, get on the pin, get huge, and go kick their asses.
 
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snackmachine said:
It would be you poking the pin, not them. It does not hurt. IMHO, get over it or get another hobby.

If you don't get over it, YOU are deciding to let them win, and you decide to continue to be their victim. I say, get on the pin, get huge, and go kick their asses.
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I didn't let them win in the sense that I became a Black Belt in Shito Ryu Karate and I did kick their asses!
Broke Dave's nose and Matt's arm, Dave's nose twice...didn't learn his lesson the first time.
But I have never been able to get over the pins and needles...just a lot of mental bullshit and I don't know where to start.
 
I do see everyone's point and like I said I do my research and of course in doing I have to agree
with most of what has been said it's a thing I have to work through and until I do it's gotta be orals...just that simple.

P.S. thanks for all of the great comments and advice...even the harsh shit...still laughing at some of it!
 
TheDarkSage said:
I do see everyone's point and like I said I do my research and of course in doing I have to agree
with most of what has been said it's a thing I have to work through and until I do it's gotta be orals...just that simple.

P.S. thanks for all of the great comments and advice...even the harsh shit...still laughing at some of it!
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least you didn't run outta here like a pussy. Dude, if you can become a fucking black belt you can take a lil needle. When I was younger, I hated getting them. You get over it fast. I use a 25G in my ass and don't even feel it. You are wasting your time doing just orals. Orals are like a secondary thing to stack with a test or other oil compound.
 
oliverrxx said:
Either be natty or pin....pin or be avg. or fuck ur liver


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x2 It's in your head. Get over it. If you have the discipline to be a blackbelt, this should be a cake walk. Just change you mind about it and man up Or be natty, or fuck you liver like oliver said.
 
Yeah I know I increased my bench 60lbs not even trying.
Everything just kept feeling light when I lifted so I just started adding 5lbs every chest workout.
Didn't get massive or gain weight actually lost weight because of excess BF but what was left was solid!
 
The discipline behind being a blackbelt in my case was mostly revenge in a then darkened heart.
Believe me I know it's in my head and I have tried to work it out before and gave up.
Like I said before I know you're all right...I just got to work it out
 
Stop you guy are killing me...in a good way!
laughing so hard tears are streaming down my face.
MARY really? LMAO but I get it!
 
Just so you know I'm here to stay...call me MARY, PUSSY BLACKBELT whatever the fuck.
I will get my shit back...no stoppin that and if muthafuckers (mean that in a good way bros) keep talking shit!
I WILL GET OVER THIS PHOBIA BULLSHIT!
 
TheDarkSage said:
Just so you know I'm here to stay...call me MARY, PUSSY BLACKBELT whatever the fuck.
I will get my shit back...no stoppin that and if muthafuckers (mean that in a good way bros) keep talking shit!
I WILL GET OVER THIS PHOBIA BULLSHIT!
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TheDarkSage said:
Just so you know I'm here to stay...call me MARY, PUSSY BLACKBELT whatever the fuck.
I will get my shit back...no stoppin that and if muthafuckers (mean that in a good way bros) keep talking shit!
I WILL GET OVER THIS PHOBIA BULLSHIT!
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I'm starting to like this mary dude. I sent you a friend request baby? Will you be my friend? (mary is my lil pin cushion) lol Really tho - - Just tryin to help dude. Laughter is the best medicine, especially when you can laugh at your self. You are on your way brother.
 
I'd strongly recommend a sarms stack. I'd throw in some LGD, S-4 and some Ostarine from Sarms1.com in here. I'd take some aromasin from ag-guys to control the possible estro you could get from the oxandrovar. Yes, I'd definitely recommend the oxandrovar because you'll get killer clean gains from them. You're gonna want to keep natty test suppression to a minimum so I'd run some hcgenerate. Then I'd throw some n2guard into the mix to protect yourself.
 
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