Triple stack questions/SARM's questions

[EER]

I have questions on the triple stack, and SARM's in general.
1. Any liver issues? If so do you need to take it with some type of protection like you would a PH or AAS cycle? I read this post http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol but wasn't sure if maybe it was just assumed would would use liver protection.
2. I'm currently on a light bulk (eating 300-600 above) would that limit gains since the SARM's utilize fat as an energy source vs carbs? I guess would I benefit by switching to a high fat/protein diet more or just keep at my standard diet? I know most use SARM's as a bridge/cut cycle but I'd like to see what I could gain in LBM with eating at a caloric surplus.
3. How long would you wait after the mini pct to run a PH/test cycle.

Thanks,

Great site BTW!

 

[wolfpackalpha]

1. Any liver issues? If so do you need to take it with some type of protection like you would a PH or AAS cycle? I read this post http://www.evolutionary.org/the-SARMS-triple-stack-protocol but wasn't sure if maybe it was just assumed would would use liver protection
A: You won't have liver issues with SARMS, read this section for reference:
http://www.evolutionary.org/steroids/SARMS

2. I'm currently on a light bulk (eating 300-600 above) would that limit gains since the SARM's utilize fat as an energy source vs carbs? I guess would I benefit by switching to a high fat/protein diet more or just keep at my standard diet? I know most use SARM's as a bridge/cut cycle but I'd like to see what I could gain in LBM with eating at a caloric surplus.
A: You can use a modified evolutionary diet or a 40p/30c/30c diet (more balanced), the most important is to have fairly high protein.

3. How long would you wait after the mini pct to run a PH/test cycle.
A: I would suggest about 6 weeks off, just to let your body rest.

 

[brapbrap07]

hey wolfpack... i hit you up on elite asking about some diet questions.. would appreciate if you gave me a response.

 

[EER]

Thanks Wolf!

 

[wolfpackalpha]

hey wolfpack... i hit you up on elite asking about some diet questions.. would appreciate if you gave me a response.

Any questions you have, post them here on the forum please.

 

[jbranken]

The great thing about sarms is that you don't need all of the same ancillaries that you would on an aas/ph cycle. There are WAY less side effects yet a lot of the same benefits. You dont have to worry about your lipids/liver/prostate going to crap over time. That's why they're so awesome!

Great advice wolfpack

 

[EER]

Wolf or anybody who has knowledge, would you recommend running the triple stack with LGD vs Osta and just save the Osta for PCT? I've been reading logs on LGD and man it seems to be awesome. I only have Osta, GW, and S4 now, but was just curious. I could also try it later. I also understand LGD will shut u down more and will require a more in depth PCT.

I also though of running LGD with Kata as a stack next using Osta in my PCT.

 

[gymrat827]

Wolf or anybody who has knowledge, would you recommend running the triple stack with LGD vs Osta and just save the Osta for PCT? I've been reading logs on LGD and man it seems to be awesome. I only have Osta, GW, and S4 now, but was just curious. I could also try it later. I also understand LGD will shut u down more and will require a more in depth PCT.

I also though of running LGD with Kata as a stack next using Osta in my PCT.

yeah, i would. save osta of pct.

but you ll need to use a good bit of hcgenerate while on, really hcgernate ES cuz LGD + s4 & gw will shut you down pretty good. id jump on the sarms1 sale tho.....

and id be using a serm in pct as well. low dose tho.

 

[EER]

yeah, i would. save osta of pct.

but you ll need to use a good bit of hcgenerate while on, really hcgernate ES cuz LGD + s4 & gw will shut you down pretty good. id jump on the sarms1 sale tho.....

and id be using a serm in pct as well. low dose tho.

Yea I'm stocked to run the triple with Ostar, GW and S4 now, with all accessories so I may just buy the LGD and shelve it for later. If I respond well tot he triple I'd imagine the LGD will be freaking epic. Prolly run it with Katana, Xoster with a test base.

 

[Shrine]

Youre going to love it bro..

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[EER]

Youre going to love it bro..

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The triple stack or LGD lol?nI hope I love it all man. From all the logs I've read it's seems like a win, win all around.

 

[Shrine]

Both... its a victory either way

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[Shrine]

You could run the triple stack as a bridge... do your mini pct, and then run LGD. Just make sure you get blood work done after your triple stack

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[EER]

Question, I've read it can take Osta a few days to a week to kick in. What about S4 and GW? Should I start the Ostra, then a few days later hit the other two? Also I was going to stagger my Hcgen and start it around week 3 or 4 b/c I'm down to one bottle and funds are low...feel free to make any recommendations with that too.

Thanks

 

[Shrine]

Start them all at the same time bro.. Ostarine can take a couple weeks to kick in. GW is pretty quick.. like in a day or two. S4 is relatively quick from person to person. For me it kicked in about 7 days after first dose

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[EER]

Start them all at the same time bro.. Ostarine can take a couple weeks to kick in. GW is pretty quick.. like in a day or two. S4 is relatively quick from person to person. For me it kicked in about 7 days after first dose

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Thanks, you're running the triple right now right? How do you like it?

 

[Shrine]

Love it

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[EER]

You doing the 8 weeks or something different? You running just triple or anything else?

 

[Shrine]

8 week triple stack.. ive been runnung HCGENERATE the whole way. Im bridging this stack into a helladroll and Katanadrol stack.

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[EER]

8 week triple stack.. ive been runnung HCGENERATE the whole way. Im bridging this stack into a helladroll and Katanadrol stack.

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Well dang that sounds like what I want to do lol. I have Kata and Xosterone for a run. How long after the 8 weeks will you hit the PH's...like are you running a mini PCT?

 

[Shrine]

Right after I finish my mini pct.. ill get blood work done and if everything looks good ill roll right into the ph stack

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[EER]

Ok sounds like my plan too. I would run Hella but my liver hates Methylated compounds.

 

[Shrine]

Ok sounds like my plan too. I would run Hella but my liver hates Methylated compounds.

Im not sure how I will react to it.. but im running tudca and N2Guard so im sure ill be straight

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[EER]

Im not sure how I will react to it.. but im running tudca and N2Guard so im sure ill be straight

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See I'm going to try the Tudca this time around with some other cycle assist.

Hey for your mini pct you adding anything? I thought about doing clomid 50/25/25/25 as a just in case....think thats a bad idea?

 

[Shrine]

Not nessesary... hcgenerate es will suffice.

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[EER]

Not nessesary... hcgenerate es will suffice.

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Right but I have some left over liquid clomid. So was hoping to use it with D spark or Unleashed. I mean it can't hurt, right?

 

[RickRock]

Right but I have some left over liquid clomid. So was hoping to use it with D spark or Unleashed. I mean it can't hurt, right?

It won't hurt to throw some Clomid in there if you want to, but it's not completely necessary following a sarms run

 

[dylangemelli]

there's no point in running clomid bro... clomid is one of those things that definitely has its place and can be helpful but you only want to use it if you absolutely have to and there's absolutely no need here... if you want to juice up your pct then add phytoserms... that is a tremendous recovery stack... hcgenerate es and phytoserms...

 

[dylangemelli]

You only need to wait a week after you finish sarms to start a ph or steroid cycle... recovery is much quicker... if i was you, i would run the triple stack as is with osta... then use LGD along with whatever ph cycle you decide to run... you can gain lean muscle on the triple stack and melt fat... then, if you are looking for more size, stacking lgd with a ph or steroid will enhance it like crazy and give you even more lean mass gains... its the best scenario for you... lgd can be stacked with other sarms but its best utilized with a ph or steroid...

 

[EER]

You only need to wait a week after you finish sarms to start a ph or steroid cycle... recovery is much quicker... if i was you, i would run the triple stack as is with osta... then use LGD along with whatever ph cycle you decide to run... you can gain lean muscle on the triple stack and melt fat... then, if you are looking for more size, stacking lgd with a ph or steroid will enhance it like crazy and give you even more lean mass gains... its the best scenario for you... lgd can be stacked with other sarms but its best utilized with a ph or steroid...

Ok, that's kind of how I was thinking too. Run the triple, then transition to a Katana, Xoster cycle with LGD added. Then PCT with Clomid, Osta and natty test boosters. Hmmmm that's a solid 20+ weeks. Which gives me time to prep for the next run and shouldn't be too bad on my system. This could be a heck of a recomp.

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok, that's kind of how I was thinking too. Run the triple, then transition to a Katana, Xoster cycle with LGD added. Then PCT with Clomid, Osta and natty test boosters. Hmmmm that's a solid 20+ weeks. Which gives me time to prep for the next run and shouldn't be too bad on my system. This could be a heck of a recomp.

now you have the right idea bro

 

[EER]

Hey guys. I've had a chronic elbow issue for the past two yrs. Been to PT's OT's had all kinds of rehab done and it still comes back. Been reading bout TB-500. Would it be good to run with the triple and where is a good trusted source? I have one, I think is good (GWP), but want to hear from ya'll.

Thinking load at 5mg/wk for 4 weeks, then run 5 mg/month.

Edit, crap looks like the coupon an't working for gwp...too pricey now.