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krazieone56
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Ya I would agree. Cross fit is a war. You need endurance. Sarms triple stack with eq and primo would be epic in this application.
KRAZIEONE
KRAZIEONE
Guys - just wanted to say thank you for all the help and advice so far 
As I'm new to this, I'm going to be studying all the recommendations, and reading up on Dylan's stack.
One quick question, I've not taken anything before, so should I jump straight in with a full stack such as Dylan's, or start out on something like the SARMS triple stack just to begin with? (Hope that isn't a stupid question!)
Thanks again guys. As I've not taken before, once I have decided one something I'm thinking of starting a post detailing my results and how I get on, hopefully this will be interesting to those in a similar position
As I'm new to this, I'm going to be studying all the recommendations, and reading up on Dylan's stack.
One quick question, I've not taken anything before, so should I jump straight in with a full stack such as Dylan's, or start out on something like the SARMS triple stack just to begin with? (Hope that isn't a stupid question!)
Thanks again guys. As I've not taken before, once I have decided one something I'm thinking of starting a post detailing my results and how I get on, hopefully this will be interesting to those in a similar position
if you are just starting out, i missed that part... i would just go with this
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout… www.sarms1.com
5-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. www.sarms1.com
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com
1-12 Yohimflame n2bm.com
3-7 9-12 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com
Mini pct 13-16
Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
clomid 50/25/25/25 www.ag-guys.com
gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. www.sarms1.com
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout… www.sarms1.com
5-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. www.sarms1.com
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-12 “liquidex" n2bm.com
1-12 Yohimflame n2bm.com
3-7 9-12 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com
Mini pct 13-16
Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
clomid 50/25/25/25 www.ag-guys.com
gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com
KABLAM!!! Crossfit sucks! Lol sorry OP I'm just being an ass
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That's because you believe everything you read on steroid sites, which is not wise at all.
I wish you boys would stop throwing the word "catabolism" around without knowing all its connotations, which it has a few. For muscle catabolism to occur a lot of factors have to come into play. I.e. poor diet, sleep depravity, over training, etc. People automatically blame a chemical, per se, for doing certain things, which has little weight and not enough to use as a primary source. T3 used in moderation and backed by a decent diet can and will initiate protein synthesis. T3 stimulates DNA Transcription, in turn makes new proteins, consequently, hypertrophy occurs. As for AAS needed to prevent catabolism when using T3, I say diet will dictate more than roids will... Steroids don't automatically keep one in a "anabolic state," diet is a primary factor and a key component as well. Always remember, steroids, weight training, and diet all run parallel with one another, it take the entire group to in be in one accord to get the optimal effect.
In conclusion, T3 in moderation with a good diet and a good training regimen is great for building muscle...
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krazieone56
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Cross fit is for people who have to will power to go do real training. So they find something that's not boring and highly dangerous. I'm sorry but fuck cross fit. Its for bitches and hippies.
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krazieone56
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Every cross fit guy I run into is a douche little punk with his fohawk and cross fit tee on getting into his car that has a cross fit sticker on it. Wearing his goddamn cross fit shoes coming out of a Starbucks with his Carmel latter frappacino cause he is fucking cool. OK maybe I shud move this to the rage thread. I'm getting angry. LOL.
KRAZIEONE
KRAZIEONE
There must be a lot of those types running around that you just described because this thread has over 11,000 views... LMAO!!
I do??? Everything? Funny... Because I'm positive I don't just automatically believe everything I read. I only trust what makes sense to me when it comes from someone who is extremely knowledeable and reputable, after I make sure my findings coincide with their opinion/info.
How are you so quick to assume what I do and don't know? How can you just magically know if I know what "catabolism" means in all its connotations? Did you notice how I said "can" and not "always"? I was stating what I have heard about the substance. I was asking to learn more about what he was saying, so I obviously didn't know about T3's capabilities in that regard. I have no issue admitting what I do and don't know. But I do understand "catabolism", and even what you're getting to. But hey, I'm just going to make an assumption that you don't know how a certain level of "catabolism" is actually required for muscle hypertrophy -- we even need cortisol! The key is controlling it and trying to keep it to where its needed and not beyond that (breaking down more muscle than necessary, taking away our gains that we worked for). You must seriously think I'm an idiot to not know that diet is involved in controlling if a body is anabolic of not, and how diet dictates that far more than just AAS. I'm extremely aware that to truly reap the benefits of AAS, you have to not only have your diet in tune, but also your workouts in order.
What I was getting to was that when one is working on cutting and they're already in a calorie deficit, T3 can end up causing more muscle to be lost than necessary. (OMG LOOK AT THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT DIET DICTATES WEIGHT ALTERATIONS! HURRAAAYYY). As has been made clear many times on MANY different forums (and multiple pubmed articles, plus friend's accounts), some substances can end up causing more harm than good. So what I was more interested in, is does T3's ability to improve protein synthesis outweigh its other effects on muscle loss?
And while AAS does not automatically dictate if someone is in a catabolic or anabolic state, it absolutely helps holding onto muscle when dieting. Hence me mentioning how I generally hear about people not just running T3 without anabolics to minimize the possible effects.
If you didn't mean your post as an insult then I completely misunderstood you. But you sounded like you were trying to say I was some sort of idiot. Had you asked rather than made statements about what I apparently do and don't know, I wouldn't have taken it as such.
Yeah... I've also ran into far too many people that were seriously injured during Crossfit training. But whatever, if people find someone that gets them active and in the gym, that's good for them.
Just for the record - I'm not a crossfitter 
My training consists of strength work, olympic lifting, and high intensity strength & conditioning circuits (which has been around long before crossfit!) but describes my style of training rather well without starting a new thread for the sake of it!
Agree with you that most crossfitters are arrogant, cocky, holier than thou types who are also deluded as they believe that people in their sport like Rich Froning are 100% lifetime clean and just have "good genetics"...
My training consists of strength work, olympic lifting, and high intensity strength & conditioning circuits (which has been around long before crossfit!) but describes my style of training rather well without starting a new thread for the sake of it!Agree with you that most crossfitters are arrogant, cocky, holier than thou types who are also deluded as they believe that people in their sport like Rich Froning are 100% lifetime clean and just have "good genetics"...
oliverrxx
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don't forget their shmedium shirt that doesn't fit loose around the 16 inch biceps
there are just as many douchebags who 'bodybuild' and are 20%+ body fat and spend 90% of their gym time socializing and chasing around chicks then going to chikfila
the problem with crossfitters is no different than bodybuilding in that most of these clowns are weekend warriors who don't grasp the concept that you can't do it twice a week, have a shitty diet and expect to excel
I have just as much respect for the Xfitter or any athlete who hits it hard atleast 4 or 5X per week and eats solid as I do the bodybuilder who does the same.
the problem with crossfitters is no different than bodybuilding in that most of these clowns are weekend warriors who don't grasp the concept that you can't do it twice a week, have a shitty diet and expect to excel
I have just as much respect for the Xfitter or any athlete who hits it hard atleast 4 or 5X per week and eats solid as I do the bodybuilder who does the same.
I see this at my gym too all the time. go to a 5K road race and you will every skinny dude there has one of those shirts
Zwarrell
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So far I think steve has said it best. I've noticed, the older I get, the less I give a fuck about what everyone else wants to do. If you wanna risk your body in crossfit, you wanna skip legs, you wanna binge eat or do endless cardio- go for it. But I will ALWAYS respect athletes and fitness enthusiasts based on their work ethic primarily.
curtisvill
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whatever floats your boat. there are people that collect stamps and i just don't get it. i collect vintage French advertising posters, i am sure the stamp collector does not understand that.
I agree. Although what I DISrespect is the fact that almost everyone started crossfit because it's trendy and because getting "fit" became trendy and crossfit is the "sport" of yuppies everywhere so it's how rich people get fit now. I admire the work ethic if they have it but most just did the sheep thing and followed the hype with the other sheep. JMHO
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Zwarrell
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Oh trust me I can definitely understand your frustration there haha I think my biggest problem w crossfit, is the shitty trainers that make the total newbs jump straight into Olympic movements, etc. it's a perfect recipe for injury.
DionysusLabs
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I would go with Masteron P and Test P, but as we know everyone responds to compounds differently.
Exactly man. I've met far too many people that have had to go through surgery for the injuries they got while doing crossfit. I think its the trainer's/coach's fault for that kind of shit.
The issue with this is that to be a crossfit coach, all it takes is a weekend course with no prior qualifications required, yet they then go out and teach (in my opinion) the most complex and technical weightlifting movements such as the clean and the snatch. If people want to do crossfit as opposed to circuit training, then get ready to say bye bye to their rotator cuff! (unless they're on HGH and a mixture of other PEDs like the pro's to prevent and recover from injury)
A quick question on the SARMs triple stack and beginner's advice from Dylan (post #103 - thank you to Dylan for posting this), does anyone have any info on how keepable the gains in terms of strength and endurance are after coming off the cycle? Will I have to stay on to keep any improvements?
Thanks again for the help and advice guys, nice to come across a group of people who can put some brains behind the brawn and offer advice to people like me so I don't mess myself up! Very much appreciated
Thanks again for the help and advice guys, nice to come across a group of people who can put some brains behind the brawn and offer advice to people like me so I don't mess myself up! Very much appreciated
the common question i get is generally for gw concerning keeping endurance gains... when your vo2max is increased, it will not regress unless YOU regress... when you stop taking gw, your vo2 will probably stop moving up unless you really get after it on your cardio, but it won't regress unless you allow it...
sarms probably have the most keepable gains of anything you can use from steroids to pro hormones to peptides, the keepability of gains is probably the highest of anything... the gains won't be as drastic as with a steroid or pro hormone but they will still provide big gains that are extremely clean and far easier to keep... you will have little to no side effects and recovery will occur at a much more rapid pace... i think that sarms results have spoken for themselves and it helps when something not only works but makes you feel as good as they do...www.sarms1.com
I see what you are saying.
crossfit requires a lot of snatches and clean and jerks and the workouts are a lot of overtraining of the body.. you can easily over tax your body
spartanglory
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Many certifications are done in a weekend. The crossfit L1 dosent touch much upon the snatch, clean, and jerk. A good crossfit gym will usually bring in someone who is proficient in these movements to teach them. Not all gyms do it, but the good ones do.
I agree its up to the coaches to protect their members. Same with any other coach or personal trainer. Its the the coaches who don't care about the members and the people who try to do too much too quickly and complain the loudest when they hurt themselves that gives crossfit a bad rep.
Can you get hurt doing crossfit? Absolutely. Can you get hurt lifting at planet fitness? Of course. Anything that involves movement involves risk. You can also workout whether its crossfit or not injury free.
I have been doing crossfit.for 2 years. Only a couple people have been injured at our gym. One was a freak accident the other was a result of the member ignoring what we said. This person was subsequently asked not to return.
Not looking for an anti crossfit rant, just putting in my 2 cents. In the end, we all want the same thing: be strong as hell and look damn good. Its the destination not the road that matters.
you are 100% correct. I am just coming out of a partial pectoral tear. my 3rd injury doing Crossfit. I really like crossfit but under educated trainers are not helping the cause. Now I am almost fully recovered. I realize that I have to listen more to my body than to 21 yrs old coach.
Moby Richard
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I had to google Crossfit, wasn't sure what it was. Seems like a fad. SMH
There are much better programs out there for gaining strength or endurance than Crossfit.
There are much better programs out there for gaining strength or endurance than Crossfit.
curtisvill
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crossfit has been around since 2000, espn has been broadcasting the crossfit games for the past 4 years, doesn't sound like a fad to me.
A 2010 U.S. Army study conducted during a 6-week period produced an average power output increase of 20% among participants, measured by benchmark WODs. The average one repetition maximum weight deadlift increased by 21.11% - sound like pretty good gains to me. smh
again some of you are posting up opinions of cross fit and have never even been to a cross fit session
its like anything else, its about how much you put into it.
if you go once or twice a week and half ass your workout you won't get any results. if you are dedicated and work hard combined with good genetics and diet you will improve. its that simple. crossfit isn't going to turn you into a bodybuilder, not what its all about. its more about working your core similar to boot camp.
my gripe with it is that people bring their kids to it and let them run around wild since they operate many classes in the day and the owner might only be present for half of those so people police each other, but the same can be said of going to the Y. a real gym kids aren't allowed on the floor period. as much as I love kids leave your kids at home or stop popping them out if you aren't going to be responsible for them, not my job to babysit your kids while I am trying to workout
its like anything else, its about how much you put into it.
if you go once or twice a week and half ass your workout you won't get any results. if you are dedicated and work hard combined with good genetics and diet you will improve. its that simple. crossfit isn't going to turn you into a bodybuilder, not what its all about. its more about working your core similar to boot camp.
my gripe with it is that people bring their kids to it and let them run around wild since they operate many classes in the day and the owner might only be present for half of those so people police each other, but the same can be said of going to the Y. a real gym kids aren't allowed on the floor period. as much as I love kids
leave your kids at home or stop popping them out if you aren't going to be responsible for them, not my job to babysit your kids while I am trying to workout
spartanglory
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Agreed steve haha kids being allowed to run free anywhere that isnt meant for them to do so is annoyingagain some of you are posting up opinions of cross fit and have never even been to a cross fit session
its like anything else, its about how much you put into it.
if you go once or twice a week and half ass your workout you won't get any results. if you are dedicated and work hard combined with good genetics and diet you will improve. its that simple. crossfit isn't going to turn you into a bodybuilder, not what its all about. its more about working your core similar to boot camp.
my gripe with it is that people bring their kids to it and let them run around wild since they operate many classes in the day and the owner might only be present for half of those so people police each other, but the same can be said of going to the Y. a real gym kids aren't allowed on the floor period. as much as I love kids
Mattdogg
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Milk & cookies.
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I must say that in theory it is pretty genius if you do it right and don't injure yourself with retarded form. However, I have been to a few crossfit gyms and have noticed something. A smug stench that fills the air with hints of elitism. i had a crossfit level whatever the fuck trainer tell me that weights were useless. Then I asked him why they had a barbell there ??? If you can pull it off with class and recognize that it is not the best or end all be all of fitness then go get em' skeeter. I find the paleo diet and paleo supplements to be a riot. Yes, cavemen did eat maltodexrtin bro. Hey, if it gives you a boner then more power to you. I don't think cavemen shot test in their ass before they took down a wooly mammoth though.
userbrah
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Pretty sure all caveman shot test in their ass bro.
Prehistoric nandralone and methyltren were way better than they are today.
Do you even history bro.
Starting my first cycle. I DO crossfit, but I care more about how I look than how I perform. I primarily want help leaning out, and probably should have come to this forum first. I just got my first cycle of Winni + Test Cyp. I'll be using Nolva PCT, and this cycle is only going to be 5 weeks. I see that some of the cycles being recommended can be up to 16 weeks. Dylan seems to know a TON of unbiased info about PHs, Steroids, and SARMS.
Should I lay off of the movements that are going to be tough on my joints while on Winni (i.e. muscle-ups, overhead squats, anything that is really going to be strenuous on my should ligaments)? Should I take Aromasin on cycle? Should I get the SARMS triple stack and start it concurrently with my winni+test cycle? Should I cycle the Sarms triple stack right after my winni+test? Any advice would be great. I'm really new to this, but want any advantage I can get. Pretty pot-committed already on winni, and truly didn't care about how that would inhibit my performance, but now after reading up on SARMS and how it can help maintain the effects of Winni AND it'll help me perform better, I'm even more excited about that.
Test is way too high for crossfit...trust me I speak from experience
Look bro...if you are trying to be someone in crossfit you won't really be doing cycles.
The fact that you are looking at cycling means that you are looking to peak for either regionals or the games. The way crossfit goes is whatever your gunning towards you need to peak at..so you shouldn't be thinking welll I can hit regionals but maybe the games sounds good...fuck no that doesnt work. If you peaking regionals your peaking regionals.
Correct training with go 12 weeks of two workouts a day. First workout is your weights, second workout is your aerobic. Total of 4-6 hours daily 5 days a week with 1 active rest day and 1 full on rest day. (life sucks as a crossfit competitor, also hope you have good health insurance because I've seen some AWESOME fucking injuries)
so if your training for 12 weeks, deload 1 week, test 1 week, then that means your last 14 week cycle will tell you where you will place...the next 14 weeks will be dedicated to peaking and will be a bit different...but you should already have a coach helping with that, PM me if you don't have a crossfit coach and are looking to work with the best..I know several.
This means you may be "cycling" for 28 weeks. But here's the thing...there is no cycle for crossfit. You don't need steroids to hit crossfit strength levels, you don't need steroids for the aerobic, you don't need steroids for really any aspect of crossfit....but where PEDs shine is optimizing recovery, aerobic, VO2, lactic, etc. Basically being a superhuman rather than a freak.
So what is optimal...may want to find a good doctor for this one (hard to find but they are out there..ask arod). about 4-6IU growth Hormone seemed to work well with me on about 200mg Test C weekly...just above the normal range while keeping all my other levels in good range...especially lipids. That's it...nothing else needed. You could play based on needing to pick up in an area like endurance or strength. But never go over 400-600mg hormones total is a general rule of thumb. I use to like 200mg Test on 200-400mg primo. That worked well for me. Or for strength 200test with 100-200tren e but you will sacrifice endurance.
fortitude18
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Thank you so much for the info. I'll definitely take this into account if I ever think about competing.
I know I got excited about the potential "performance" gains from the SARMS I've seen earlier in this thread, but honestly, I just want my abs to pop more. That's why I've been recommended Winni. I honestly don't care if I can't do 20 rounds of Cindy or can't overhead squat my body weight... I do crossfit for fun and to keep my conditioning up, but I spend most of my training time just lifting (whether it be olympic lifts or going to the 24 across the street to focus on areas that have room for opportunity).
My main questions are these: should I avoid the movements that make Crossfit what it is because my ligaments and tendons will be more fragile? and would using the SARMS1 triple stack as a post-cycle be helpful (either before I start Nolva or concurrently)?
Thanks again for the help and advice; it is greatly appreciated.
texas monster
Proficient Brother
My endurance is fine on high test.
If you are worried about endurance just stay away from anything that will hit your liver hard and tren.
If you are on high test and your endurance is suffering it is from your diet....not the compound.
If you are worried about endurance just stay away from anything that will hit your liver hard and tren.
If you are on high test and your endurance is suffering it is from your diet....not the compound.
Hey Dylan, was wondering if I could get your input.
I also do Crossfit (I run a gym), and need to get stronger/more endurance. I've done peptides before (Mod GRF and GHRP-2, I actually have quite a bit left), got decent results but got tired of sticking myself three times a day and you have to be super on point with the timing of the dosages around when your stomach is empty. It got to be a real pain and I wasn't seeing awesome results so I stopped.
I've been thinking of doing a first cycle of test E at a relatively low dose (I see 200-300mg recommended frequently), but I'm intrigued by the sarms as well. I saw the post you made (#103 in this thread), for a first time cycle, but it looks like it's close to $1000 worth of gear (I'm super broke, haven't paid my taxes yet lol).
Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I also do Crossfit (I run a gym), and need to get stronger/more endurance. I've done peptides before (Mod GRF and GHRP-2, I actually have quite a bit left), got decent results but got tired of sticking myself three times a day and you have to be super on point with the timing of the dosages around when your stomach is empty. It got to be a real pain and I wasn't seeing awesome results so I stopped.
I've been thinking of doing a first cycle of test E at a relatively low dose (I see 200-300mg recommended frequently), but I'm intrigued by the sarms as well. I saw the post you made (#103 in this thread), for a first time cycle, but it looks like it's close to $1000 worth of gear (I'm super broke, haven't paid my taxes yet lol).
Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Dylan mentions methylated orals, but what about Winny in an oil based injectable form? Reading up on the profiles, Winny, Primo, and Masteron seem very similar with Winny being a little on the more aggressive side.
Also, people have mentioned a couple times that Primo + EQ is unbeatable (see Dylan's stack), but if Primo is not available, would Masteron be a good substitute? Or just go Test Prop and EQ?
Any advice is appreciated.
no mast is not a good sub for primo.They are used for totally differernt goals
Winny, primo, and Masteron are extremely different actually. Winny is just as toxic in oil injectable form.
Injectable is still very hepatoxic. The chemical structure that makes it toxic doesn't change with winny.
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It makes more sense to just take it orally
themessemger
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Not sure where you are with this whole process, or what level you compete at, but just a heads up they do test at regionals, or, I should say the 2 years I competed in regionals people got tested.
I recently quit to just pursue weightlifting and going down this road myself.
I recently quit to just pursue weightlifting and going down this road myself.
Good to know!
sorry cut off above. Curious why Trem would be bad. I did a cycle called Final 5. Test/Masteron/Trem Mix. It was amazing. Put over 100lbs on Deadlift 50 on Squat and endurance was great. Have to say post cycle I fucked up and didn't do it right and I hit a freaking wall. From running a 6 min mile to basically having a hard time finishing a mile. So I was very curious about the comment of Trem being a CF Killer. Im attempting to do research now and appreciate the help. Im more of a Oly Lifter / Power Lifter / and like to do some HIT.
alphalife
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Make sure you leave plenty of time for your system to clear before tests. Some shit takes forever.
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Read through the entire thread and I've got some questions I hope I can get some help with. My goals are to make regionals this year not really shooting for the games but believe I'm close if not already a regional competitor now so hoping to get over the hump so I am concerned about possible drug tests if I make it. Regardless of personal opinions on crossfit I love to compete and it's something I enjoy so I do it.
Ideally I'd like to go with test, eq and SARMS stack but I don't think I want to take s4 do to the vision lose side effect. Also since everything I've read says EQ takes forever to clear the system so I think it's a no go. So I'm thinking low test and SARMS but think I'd need to cycle off by January for the test to clear my system. I've searched but come up empty is there any SARMS I should be alarmed that will show up on a drug test?
Thinking going with 14 week cycle that way I'd be ending about 4 months out from regionals. This would also mean about 2 months off the open which is past peak but not sure how else to allow it time to clear.
14 week cycle 200 mg test c week (I believe I'm going to be able to get a dr script for this which I'd much prefer but this is the max dosage they will write)
2-14 GW 20mg day
2-14 MK 25 mg day
1-14 Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
Should I take hcgenerate while on the cycle? If so when should I start and what amount?
PCT 15-18
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
n2guard
MK 25mg day - Is this ok or necessary to continue if it's in my cycle for 12 weeks?
Last question ideally I'd like to take hgh or peptides as I feel they would be superior for crossfit given their benefits and not being tested. But admittedly I don't know much yet about them and hear so many stories about fakes and depressing the pituitary gland to the point of needing for life I haven't given it much thought or effort to research yet. Any thoughts for this purpose?
Ideally I'd like to go with test, eq and SARMS stack but I don't think I want to take s4 do to the vision lose side effect. Also since everything I've read says EQ takes forever to clear the system so I think it's a no go. So I'm thinking low test and SARMS but think I'd need to cycle off by January for the test to clear my system. I've searched but come up empty is there any SARMS I should be alarmed that will show up on a drug test?
Thinking going with 14 week cycle that way I'd be ending about 4 months out from regionals. This would also mean about 2 months off the open which is past peak but not sure how else to allow it time to clear.
14 week cycle 200 mg test c week (I believe I'm going to be able to get a dr script for this which I'd much prefer but this is the max dosage they will write)
2-14 GW 20mg day
2-14 MK 25 mg day
1-14 Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
Should I take hcgenerate while on the cycle? If so when should I start and what amount?
PCT 15-18
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
n2guard
MK 25mg day - Is this ok or necessary to continue if it's in my cycle for 12 weeks?
Last question ideally I'd like to take hgh or peptides as I feel they would be superior for crossfit given their benefits and not being tested. But admittedly I don't know much yet about them and hear so many stories about fakes and depressing the pituitary gland to the point of needing for life I haven't given it much thought or effort to research yet. Any thoughts for this purpose?
Crossfit
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I am competing in regionals .... all I can tell you is you might be too late to cycle right now ... your best option is to cycle off season , Open will start soon and soon after regionals ( IF BY ANY CHANCE , you get tested .. you are fuck ) .... Crossfit is growing and they will start testing more trust me ... right now they were letting alot of juiced people go trought for the show but it will change
I am competing in regionals .... all I can tell you is you might be too late to cycle right now ... your best option is to cycle off season , Open will start soon and soon after regionals ( IF BY ANY CHANCE , you get tested .. you are fuck ) .... Crossfit is growing and they will start testing more trust me ... right now they were letting alot of juiced people go trought for the show but it will change
Well I thought I accounted for that in my time frame listed above. Are you saying the test will stay in the system longer the 4 months? The games ended 2 months ago so I'd pretty much consider this the off season not all the much sooner top competitors could have gotten started.
What about the SARMs and testing does anyone have any info?
Muscle1031
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I don't see this. Can someone help please
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Muscle1031
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Rockstarenergy
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Cardarine , run this with 200-300mg of test/week for 15 weeks then cruise at 150 a week,you will get good strength gains and decent endurance, you want test for recovery, keep in mind Enthanate takes a long time to clear system. So taper to Prop then suspension, ouch, prior to competition . Remember as you add muscle mass you will notice a slow in speed until you staibilize and cruise at 150mg a week. Stay off of other orals they will cramp you. Make sure to incorporate N2 guard the whole,time and aromison on cycle.
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