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Also yeah so skip this week, next week 2.5mg 2 days after trt dose?
I've got hcg 5000iu there, should I take it to help with estrogen problem. Apparently best way to treat low e2 problems
HCG will raise estrogen so u need nolvadex or aromasin.
Roidrage is right
But I need to raise estrogen, because I've got low estrogen atm?
@rooster18 you dont have low estrogen or high estrogen, dont guess your pharmaceutical intake man
you need to stop self medicating, 1/2 ml sustanon is enough and do blood work , you have it planned?
dont use hcg
@rooster18 Its always hard coming back when taking time off but youre doing the right stuff and once youre in the gym consistently youll be happy with the progress!
Long story but I've found myself without any gear and no way of restocking.
I only have clomid 20mg capsules and aromasin 10mg capsules.
Will the clomid be enough for now for pct, I don't really have the funds for anything else rn.
This Saturday will be coming up 2 weeks since my last shot.
I only have clomid 20mg capsules and aromasin 10mg capsules.
Will the clomid be enough for now for pct, I don't really have the funds for anything else rn.
This Saturday will be coming up 2 weeks since my last shot.
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Ah man, long story, I moved state, woman turned into a psycho I kept going back to her stupidly knowing it was toxic. She made false assault claims the last time i saw her and when I was arrested my gear was repossessed and I lost my job so I got no gear, no money. I feel like to much info but yeah I haven't been in a good place honestly.
I'm bout to start focus on training again to pull my head outta this and there will be a cycle number 2 which u guys will be heavily involved in. But for now I have absolutely 0 choice but to cycle off.
I'm bout to start focus on training again to pull my head outta this and there will be a cycle number 2 which u guys will be heavily involved in. But for now I have absolutely 0 choice but to cycle off.
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@rooster18 sorry to hear this, horrible. When you say "moved states" thats in AU right? or where you located?
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Yeah AU brother!
Yeah its been disastrous
Yeah its been disastrous
@rooster18 sorry to hear this, horrible. When you say "moved states" thats in AU right? or where you located?
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@rooster18 I hope you can come back and Log strong again with the help of some AU brothers.
You should start a new log as you're restarting.
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Yeah I will definitely start a new log, but is 1 month cruise enough and what does everyone recommend i do for next cycle?
@rooster18 straight testosterone is what I suggest.
Testosterone 250mgs 100mgs primobolan or light masteron, dont go heavy first time in.
And for SURE dont use tren man
Its my 2nd cycle, how much of what do u reckon?
If it's your second cycle why not use just test at 500mg/wk or so?
Your trying to build?
Yeah trying to build.
Test e?
I've been on a 1/2 ml of sus 250 cruise dose for 4 weeks, is that long enough to cruise before starting again
I would get you bloodwork done to make sure nothing needs fixing before you start again.
You could either do test e, c or just use sus. They are all test.
I agree with @s.gentz. And at the moment it doesn't seem like you're super clear on what your goals are and what you want from a new cycle.
With your cruise dose, how many times a week are you pinning, and is it 1/2ml per shot, or 1/2ml per week? I'd personally like to see you cruise for a bit longer than four weeks, and plan out the next cycle in a bit more detail before jumping back in.
Definitely need to have the headspace sorted as well- jumping into a new cycle with distractions that can possibly cause you to end the cycle early will only make things worse. Get the bloods done ASAP, make the changes to improve things while cruising for another 4 weeks, plan the new cycle, get the supplies and do bloods one more time, then power into the new year.
@rooster18 even 2nd cycle I would start slower, why go too high too fast?
Start slow 3-5 weeks.
Like this I'll lay it out.
Week 1-4
250mgs testosterone/week
100mgs primobolan/week
week 5-16
400mgs testosterone/week
100mgs primobolan/week
100mgs masteron/week
I think thats a light stack and easy to handle for most guys, you do need an Ai here even with primobolan and masteron in there, at least light 5mgs aromasin dose.
I was doing half a ml per week, I've got a doc appointment this Friday so will see what I can do with the bloods, I'm gonna find it hard to maintain blood work this cycle as I'm limited money
Can only do what the doc will allow.
Was planning to start a test e, deca, mast cycle.
I could keep cruising for a bit but will be switching from sus250 to test e, is this OK?
I'm kinda pumped to start cycle now honestly haha
@rooster18 no problem, we can modify the stack no problem.I was doing half a ml per week, I've got a doc appointment this Friday so will see what I can do with the bloods, I'm gonna find it hard to maintain blood work this cycle as I'm limited money
Can only do what the doc will allow.
Was planning to start a test e, deca, mast cycle.
I could keep cruising for a bit but will be switching from sus250 to test e, is this OK?
I'm kinda pumped to start cycle now honestly haha
And switching from sustanon to testosterone is no issues at all, both are testosterone just different esters.
Week 1-4
250mgs testosterone/week
100mgs masteron/week
100mgs deca durabolin/week
week 5-16
400mgs testosterone/week
200mgs masteron/week
100mgs deca durabolin/week
We can try this stack above. It's a clean stack not high and should give you smooth gains as you train and diet into it.
I don't mind this at all. Not over the top, but would provide some solid gains.
@rooster18, minimum of two pins per week for the above.
Yeah sounds good.
Its not too low?
i was on
500mg test
And 400mg deca at the start of last cycle
Before dropping the deca.
I personally don't think it's too low. While you've run more in the past, and probably can again, more gear doesn't always equal more gains, and I prefer to run lower doses unless my goals and my timeframe require higher doses.
What were the start and finishing stats on the previous cycle?
If I can be perfectly blunt, I can see you only started using back in June, and it was obviously an impulse decision and you came off after a few weeks. Then started up a comeback log which was inconsistent as far as how frequently you were taking the gear, the training and the eating.
Your goals for the cycle aren't clear, and if I were you I'd spend a few more weeks making sure I had everything sorted so that the same mistakes don't happen again, and avoid another impulsive cycle (even though you're excited at the thought of jumping back in).
You're right 100%
It was a bit of a mess of a cycle with inconsistency.
My goal is to put on size and build muscle
Yeah I need to go through everything I need
What else do I need for cycle?
Also I've already asked this before but what do I do to get a bit of size back in the balls haha.
I've got hcg5000iu on hand will this b enough to give me a bit of a boost or is there anything I can do?
My recommendation:
- Enough gear to see the cycle out
- AI on hand (in case)
- PCT (if you're not going to keep cruising)
- Training program
- Diet plan
Regarding the balls, why bother trying to keep the size? Bit of a waste, unless you're filming porn and need the aesthetics
Just accept it and don't worry.
Yeah its an aesthetics thing honestly I don't like how it looks, you know, for the ladies haha
My recommendation:
- Enough gear to see the cycle out
- AI on hand (in case)
- PCT (if you're not going to keep cruising)
- Training program
- Diet plan
Regarding the balls, why bother trying to keep the size? Bit of a waste, unless you're filming porn and need the aesthetics
@rooster18 steroids arent the factor on gains, training and diet are about 80-90% of gains depending on genetics man
so yes I think you should start lower and move up as you go
take it slow we have time to rebuild
you can do tamoxifen but whats the point if you're just off 2 weeks
Idk I thought pct starts after 2 weeks, idk when delivery will get here, I've never gone 2 weeks so wasn't sure whether I needed to or not, would I only do it if I was actually cycling off?
I see misunderstanding, you still have sustanon though right?
Nah bro, was confiscated when I was arrested, so waiting on delivery, got test e and mast coming for next cycle, not sure when it will arrive, but was going to just start back on the cruise for a bit potentially when it arrives, while I wait for bloods n that.
in that case situation is different, if you're already off cycle just wait for the gear to arrive, AU domestic so probably fast shipping
Yeah sweet and then just continue cruise as normal yeah?
For now yes as you're probably a week away from first test shot. Get your pins prepped and lets try to prep meal plans.
I think you on a tight budget, so what food we have access to?
At the moment i got steaks, eggs, sweet potato fries, oats, berries, bananas, apples, cheese, bread, and a couple muscle chef meals, pesto chicken and Chipotle chicken.
I started training again last night, 10 min skipping, Shoulders and then went for an interval run to the shops.
@rooster18 if you can plan macros 250 grams protein 200 grams carbs 100 grams protein lets work that backwards into your meals
you can start prepping now
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I was worried about his ability to stay consistent, considering how previous cycles have gone... Hoping he proves me wrong!
Starting new cycle today
Had pre cycle bloods today
Will be starting new log later today
Aha hypo like what u did there bud, its on!
With this stack will I need to do anything for estrogen, I've got aromasin and tamoxifen on hand, just when needed?
With bloods tho, doc didn't put e2 down and when I went back he said know, will try different doc for next 1
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Ok so started today, gonna start new log.
With weeks 5-16, up the test to 500mg easier to just do a full ml yeah?
And masteron ups from 100-200
No need to up deca to 200?
how about you start just a testosterone only cycle man? @rooster18
I already started 1st dose today, I want to leave as is, I'm settled now, moved interstate, more committed and able to do properly
What makes u say this
I want to b a beast and like I wasn't really happy on just test, but like I wasn't being consistent, idk bro I have all the gear to do the test deca mast cycle, it's what I had planned, I've been looking forward to it, I get what ya saying, but yeah had first shot today 125 test e 50 mast 50 deca, I feel like I may Aswell move forward with that, I was feelin a bit shit on deca but honestly was feeling even worse after deca, I believe due to relationship problems and life stress, I've done research, I've chosen this mix for reason, deca for bulk, mast for estrogen controlling properties, I research I have knowledge and awareness but also like to ask u guys dumb questions to make sure I have guidance and I'm doin right cos I'm not kickin with anyone doin gear atm or training at a gym. So yous are my boys rn.
We came up with a plan test mast deca I think I should stick to it
What’s your goal with the current cycle? Like yeah, you want to be a beast, but what would you view as a good outcome vs a great outcome? Any thoughts around what weight and bf % you want to be at the end of the cycle? What are your plans for after the cycle?
Having an idea as to what the big picture is might mean that heading down a simpler path is actually the better one for the outcome you’re after.
With this how may it if i stick to 400 test pr should I just bump up to 500 also do I leave deca the same when I bump up test and mast yeah?
Bulk, and look good for now, idk give me guidance and ideas how I should be thinking about goals please
If I fall back on just test... why?
Why not stick with the current plan of test e deca and mast?
We said current plan sounded good as it was a mild mix
I've got no issues with @Eddie Haskell's recommended cycle. I would consider running the Deca slightly higher in weeks 5-16 (150-200mg) just to provide better anabolic synergy (enhancing collagen synthesis, improving joint lubrication, and offering a stronger anabolic environment), but this could be done from week 8 onwards depending on bloods/ how you're feeling.
Recomp, bulk, cut, etc? Or just get bigger and stay at 20% bf?
@rooster18 seems you are having some issues, just from reading the log, I would limit hormones to just 1, the easy one so you can easily get back into it, one step at a time and without huge hormonal swings
I would even suggest starting with sports TRT+
This was from november 12
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-come-back-sustanon-log.100651/post-1642536
now I see you have some issues I suggest a test only cycle sports TRT level 300mgs testosterone nothing else imo
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