Approved Log Pre-peptide log - Planning before trying injections

[toddthelineman]

its a niece lol ~ cant hit a girl


If iron doesnt equal size, it doesnt really matter though. I go to the gym by myself and its not like im looking for girls in a body building gym, so competing for weight on the bar doesnt really matter to me. in a couple months ill go back to my first log and see if anything changed

This is a very debated topic. I’ve come around to the idea that if your maximum weight, reps, or sets increase, your muscle will have grown.

In the context of a smaller powerlifter being able to lift more than some much larger powerlifters, it’s true that more weight doesn’t necessarily equal more size, but for your own progress, it will.

On top of that, if you’re a person with poor leverages (probably me, to an extent), you may not be lifting huge weight, but the weight that you do progressively lift more of can show more results on your body. This is the premise behind the idea that squats and deadlifts will be excellent weapons in your arsenal. As they have been for me. I’m not strong enough to compete with anyone but myself, but my logs and pictures show great results from progressing with more weight.

 

[toddthelineman]

This is a very debated topic. I’ve come around to the idea that if your maximum weight, reps, or sets increase, your muscle will have grown.

In the context of a smaller powerlifter being able to lift more than some much larger powerlifters, it’s true that more weight doesn’t necessarily equal more size, but for your own progress, it will.

On top of that, if you’re a person with poor leverages (probably me, to an extent), you may not be lifting huge weight, but the weight that you do progressively lift more of can show more results on your body. This is the premise behind the idea that squats and deadlifts will be excellent weapons in your arsenal. As they have been for me. I’m not strong enough to compete with anyone but myself, but my logs and pictures show great results from progressing with more weight.

I don’t think your ideas are “wrong”. I’m just talking through my thought process. Sharing my conclusions from the past five years or so of somewhat obsessive trial and error

 

[LevButlerov]

No and no. And no.

An issue here and not often discussed is HOW people train. The issue is not allowing for recovery nor working on rehab. For example (and I include myself here) we nearly all do 7 day weeks training wise. But if we allowed for recovery it might be an 8 or 9 day week/training schedule.

The bigger question is to we grow more?

If you trained to failure... there is no need to do more so form doesn't need to slip. IF (and that's a requisite) form stays good then there are zero issues around the joints etc. IF it gets sloppy then I'd agree.

Failure and or progressive overload (my preferred method) can BOTH help you grow.

As a strength guy and esp on the big lifts I just work the plan / numbers

@Mobster You’re missing the point here. Training to failure works for you because you’re a high level powerlifter with years of built strength and discipline, but for most guys like @Rurx7 it just wrecks joints and tendons over time. The majority let form slip when they chase failure and that’s where injuries start stacking up. Recovery also takes a beating and people end up stalled or banged up instead of progressing. Progressive overload with good form is safer and still drives growth without the crash and burn cycle.

 

[LevButlerov]

may aswell try ig. Tons of people report it helping, and theres no downsides when used responsibly.

It's not a joke to try it, and there are many downsides.

 

[Rurx7]

It's not a joke to try it, and there are many downsides.

im not doing it as a joke, ive been doing research for about a year at this point and ive exhausted every source on the potential downsides, how to do it safely etc. I think its a good option to help with acne scarring and to help clear my skin.

 

[LevButlerov]

im not doing it as a joke, ive been doing research for about a year at this point and ive exhausted every source on the potential downsides, how to do it safely etc. I think its a good option to help with acne scarring and to help clear my skin.

@Rurx7 before you start peptides, we need to have at least 3 months of healthy diet and training under your belt, so far we are at week 2. No one is going to stop you from using it, but it's best we dial you in first, do you understand my concern?

 

[Rurx7]

@Rurx7 before you start peptides, we need to have at least 3 months of healthy diet and training under your belt, so far we are at week 2. No one is going to stop you from using it, but it's best we dial you in first, do you understand my concern?

I understand your concern - if it was something like PED's I would take your advise but this is literally just to make my skin healthier. The only different between this and isotretinoin or similar compounds is that this is injected. As long as its done safely with proper dosages and proper technique, there are no downsides other than short term irritation etc.

 

[LevButlerov]

I understand your concern - if it was something like PED's I would take your advise but this is literally just to make my skin healthier. The only different between this and isotretinoin or similar compounds is that this is injected. As long as its done safely with proper dosages and proper technique, there are no downsides other than short term irritation etc.

Like I said, just injecting and thinking it will fix your skin is pointless because the problem is deeper. Most of the bad skin comes from the gut and how well your digestion is working. If your body is inflamed from poor digestion or food not breaking down right, it shows up through the skin. The gut is tied to how nutrients are absorbed, and if that system is off, the skin ends up starved of what it needs. When digestion improves and the gut gets balanced, the skin naturally clears up and looks healthier. That’s why fixing the gut is always the first step before wasting time with other things like peptides. @Rurx7

 

[Rurx7]

Like I said, just injecting and thinking it will fix your skin is pointless because the problem is deeper. Most of the bad skin comes from the gut and how well your digestion is working. If your body is inflamed from poor digestion or food not breaking down right, it shows up through the skin. The gut is tied to how nutrients are absorbed, and if that system is off, the skin ends up starved of what it needs. When digestion improves and the gut gets balanced, the skin naturally clears up and looks healthier. That’s why fixing the gut is always the first step before wasting time with other things like peptides. @Rurx7

I have really bad acne scarring. Fixing my gut is important, but it wont fix that. GHK-Cu has the potential to fix that ~ im going to try. For me its not just about muscle, its about all of my looks. My face is apart of that.

 

[stevesmi]

Bpc is good but it won’t make miracles or heal up miracles. It’s about smart training.

 

[Ulter]

its a niece lol ~ cant hit a girl


If iron doesnt equal size, it doesnt really matter though. I go to the gym by myself and its not like im looking for girls in a body building gym, so competing for weight on the bar doesnt really matter to me. in a couple months ill go back to my first log and see if anything changed

i have no issues hitting a girl. i used to beat my daughter if she left her barbies out in my work garage

 

[BodyMonster34]

im getting completely mixed messages lmao

bro i train everyday like its my last day. you never know ask @MONSTRO

 

[ceo]

I dont really do 1 rep maxes. I never have a spotter and I dont want to get myself killed. I usually do 4 reps at the very least

bros thats smart

 

[Napa1020]

You're a child. I dont know how anyone is advocating any type of use whether peptides or not. Follow a real diet and a real program

 

[LevButlerov]

I have really bad acne scarring. Fixing my gut is important, but it wont fix that. GHK-Cu has the potential to fix that ~ im going to try. For me its not just about muscle, its about all of my looks. My face is apart of that.

@Rurx7 it will not fix your face, you misread how it works. That is what I'm saying.

 

[LevButlerov]

You're a child. I dont know how anyone is advocating any type of use whether peptides or not. Follow a real diet and a real program

@Napa1020 you are correct, he is a child, we are trying to guide him out of making mistakes or using PEDs.
how have you been? @Napa1020 been waiting for your log updates
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-trenbolone-anavar-zphc-new-cycle-log.104151/
you went silent on us, you ok?

 

[Rurx7]

You're a child. I dont know how anyone is advocating any type of use whether peptides or not. Follow a real diet and a real program

A real diet and real program wont reduce acne scarring - GHKcu can. Im trying to do both tho

@Rurx7 it will not fix your face, you misread how it works. That is what I'm saying.

It can provide light reductions in acne scarring. Im not going into it with the presumption that ill be magically chad. Im going to order today, and not going to back out at this stage. sometimes you just have to let people make stupid decisions when they're too set for a certain path

 

[Rurx7]

Bpc is good but it won’t make miracles or heal up miracles. It’s about smart training.

I generally follow good form practices because injury has always been a big concern of mine. Always had a fucked up back so I didnt want to take the risk. Given this, I dont think ill need bpc anytime soon but its something im keeping in mind if I fuck something up

 

[LevButlerov]

A real diet and real program wont reduce acne scarring - GHKcu can. Im trying to do both tho

Yes it will, you have very little experience with dieting. @Rurx7

It can provide light reductions in acne scarring. Im not going into it with the presumption that ill be magically chad. Im going to order today, and not going to back out at this stage. sometimes you just have to let people make stupid decisions when they're too set for a certain path

Peptides aren’t going to fix the core issue and they won’t do much for scarring long term. You’d be better off looking at red light therapy since it has some decent evidence for skin healing and collagen support. Microneedling is another option people use for light acne scars and it’s a more direct approach than trying to inject your way out of it. Even simple things like vitamin C serums or aloe can help the skin repair over time. Diet and gut health still matter here because if that’s off the skin won’t fully recover no matter what you put on it. If you want real progress it’s about combining internal fixes with external tools like light therapy or needling.

 

[Rurx7]

Peptides aren’t going to fix the core issue and they won’t do much for scarring long term. You’d be better off looking at red light therapy since it has some decent evidence for skin healing and collagen support. Microneedling is another option people use for light acne scars and it’s a more direct approach than trying to inject your way out of it. Even simple things like vitamin C serums or aloe can help the skin repair over time. Diet and gut health still matter here because if that’s off the skin won’t fully recover no matter what you put on it. If you want real progress it’s about combining internal fixes with external tools like light therapy or needling.

I could just do it all. I dont have the money to do it all concurrently so im splitting it up. Im working to fix my gut microbiome rn with my diet, and il ALSO at the same time do ghkcu.

 

[Rurx7]

Do I use my real address and real name or am I supposed to get a PO box and a fake name?

 

[stevesmi]

I generally follow good form practices because injury has always been a big concern of mine. Always had a fucked up back so I didnt want to take the risk. Given this, I dont think ill need bpc anytime soon but its something im keeping in mind if I fuck something up

yeah the spine/discs and weight training don't mix. best advice is hot yoga and inversion table. lots of stretching post workout

 

[ballin2504]

Short gym session today ~ uncle duties were called in from my sister

Smith machine bench:

40 for 6 (failure)

40 for 9 (failure)

40 for 8 (failure)



Incline dumbbell press:

25 for 8 (failure)

25 for 9 (failure)

25 for 8 (failure)



Pec fly:

68 for 9 (failure)

68 for 8 (failure)

68 for 7 (failure)

@LevButlerov im keen to hear why you say don’t go to failure

@Rurx7 I love going to failure personally. But kudos to you for being a good uncle also.

 

[LevButlerov]

I could just do it all. I dont have the money to do it all concurrently so im splitting it up. Im working to fix my gut microbiome rn with my diet, and il ALSO at the same time do ghkcu.

If you have money for peptides, don't spend it on peptides, spend it on a quality diet and you can do collagen mask cheap and red light therapy lamps is like $50 on amazon. @Rurx7

 

[LevButlerov]

Do I use my real address and real name or am I supposed to get a PO box and a fake name?

I think we told you not to order to begin with.

 

[Rurx7]

If you have money for peptides, don't spend it on peptides, spend it on a quality diet and you can do collagen mask cheap and red light therapy lamps is like $50 on amazon. @Rurx7

Im just going to do all of them Im willing to throw any amount of money at my looks ~ theyre all that really matter in life anyway.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Short gym session today ~ uncle duties were called in from my sister

Smith machine bench:

40 for 6 (failure)

40 for 9 (failure)

40 for 8 (failure)



Incline dumbbell press:

25 for 8 (failure)

25 for 9 (failure)

25 for 8 (failure)



Pec fly:

68 for 9 (failure)

68 for 8 (failure)

68 for 7 (failure)

@LevButlerov im keen to hear why you say don’t go to failure

Very good session for being short

 

[Rurx7]

Lunch and dinner were the same pre-made meals. So for my lunch entries, those are also my dinner entries. Finished off push day that I couldn’t on last entry. Did core for military thing. I need to be able to do 45 sit-ups. I’ve gone from 18 to 23 in a couple days, hoping I can get to 45

Smith machine shoulder press:

30 for 4 (warmup)

30 for 9

30 for 9

30 for 8



Rear delt fly:

61 for 9

61 for 8

61 for 5



Standing multi flight:

35 for 9

40 for 7

35 for



Tricep push down:

20 for 11

25 for 5

20 for 8



Sit-ups:

23

11



Ab crunch machine:

10 for 4

5 for 10

5 for 7

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Lunch and dinner were the same pre-made meals. So for my lunch entries, those are also my dinner entries. Finished off push day that I couldn’t on last entry. Did core for military thing. I need to be able to do 45 sit-ups. I’ve gone from 18 to 23 in a couple days, hoping I can get to 45

Smith machine shoulder press:

30 for 4 (warmup)

30 for 9

30 for 9

30 for 8



Rear delt fly:

61 for 9

61 for 8

61 for 5



Standing multi flight:

35 for 9

40 for 7

35 for



Tricep push down:

20 for 11

25 for 5

20 for 8



Sit-ups:

23

11



Ab crunch machine:

10 for 4

5 for 10

5 for 7

@Rurx7 Good updates man.......

 

[LevButlerov]

Im just going to do all of them Im willing to throw any amount of money at my looks ~ theyre all that really matter in life anyway.

sure do them all but you dont need peptides you need to work on diet training and skin the natural way @Rurx7

 

[LevButlerov]

Lunch and dinner were the same pre-made meals. So for my lunch entries, those are also my dinner entries. Finished off push day that I couldn’t on last entry. Did core for military thing. I need to be able to do 45 sit-ups. I’ve gone from 18 to 23 in a couple days, hoping I can get to 45

Smith machine shoulder press:

30 for 4 (warmup)

30 for 9

30 for 9

30 for 8



Rear delt fly:

61 for 9

61 for 8

61 for 5



Standing multi flight:

35 for 9

40 for 7

35 for



Tricep push down:

20 for 11

25 for 5

20 for 8



Sit-ups:

23

11



Ab crunch machine:

10 for 4

5 for 10

5 for 7

It says 224 grams of fat, is that correct? @Rurx7 hows that possible?
and which pre made meals are you talking about here?

the training part, did you do cardio?

did you take digestive supplements today? multis? vitamin A D C?

 

[Rurx7]

It says 224 grams of fat, is that correct? @Rurx7 hows that possible?
and which pre made meals are you talking about here?

the training part, did you do cardio?

did you take digestive supplements today? multis? vitamin A D C?

I think its because I had around 1kg of beef mince. I usually strain all the fat but I take the highest possible measurement for measuring worst case. I did do cardio, ive been doing the beef test everday. I take all my supplements that we spoke about earlier every day. I just dont log because that would be a bit tedious writing it out every day.

 

[toddthelineman]

Im just going to do all of them Im willing to throw any amount of money at my looks ~ theyre all that really matter in life anyway.

You’re gonna find out, it’s just not true. We’re all here to look good, nothing wrong with that. But good looks or a big Johnson or anything like that… it’s not what’s going to get you across the finish line. It’s just not.

Self improvement is something we hold high in a pedestal, yes, do self improvement. Put your best self forward. But I get the strong sense of you feeling you aren’t enough and you need to resist that mindset. You're a smart, strong, and very persistent young man. With your resources and the qualities that you have you’re almost guaranteed success in life. So if you think you aren’t good enough even in some unclear way, it’s putting you off track for all the positive things.

 

[Rurx7]

You’re gonna find out, it’s just not true. We’re all here to look good, nothing wrong with that. But good looks or a big Johnson or anything like that… it’s not what’s going to get you across the finish line. It’s just not.

Self improvement is something we hold high in a pedestal, yes, do self improvement. Put your best self forward. But I get the strong sense of you feeling you aren’t enough and you need to resist that mindset. You're a smart, strong, and very persistent young man. With your resources and the qualities that you have you’re almost guaranteed success in life. So if you think you aren’t good enough even in some unclear way, it’s putting you off track for all the positive things.

Intelligence and persistence isnt enough. Women can only love someone based on the primal urge to reproduce, which is mainly looks. Ie if I want to be loved in life, I need to get as good looking as possible. Mainly thats my face, but I do consider muscle as a factor aswell. I cant increase from 6 foot 2 which sucks but thats life ig. I was looking into height surgery but im probably better off getting a lefort 2 or hair transplant in terms of return in investment.

 

[LevButlerov]

I think its because I had around 1kg of beef mince. I usually strain all the fat but I take the highest possible measurement for measuring worst case.

1kg of beef doesn't usually have 224 grams of fat, recheck please.

I did do cardio, ive been doing the beef test everday.

how much cardio? @Rurx7

I take all my supplements that we spoke about earlier every day. I just dont log because that would be a bit tedious writing it out every day.

Copy and paste so we are aware please.

Intelligence and persistence isnt enough. Women can only love someone based on the primal urge to reproduce, which is mainly looks. Ie if I want to be loved in life, I need to get as good looking as possible. Mainly thats my face, but I do consider muscle as a factor aswell. I cant increase from 6 foot 2 which sucks but thats life ig. I was looking into height surgery but im probably better off getting a lefort 2 or hair transplant in terms of return in investment.

You’re overthinking it. Looks matter but they aren’t the only thing that drives attraction, plenty of women go for sharp guys who can hold a conversation and make them feel understood. Confidence, ambition, and how you carry yourself day to day matter more than a millimeter of bone or whether your hairline is perfect. I’ve seen guys with average looks do great because they’re interesting, funny, and make people want to be around them. Face and muscle help, sure, but they’re just multipliers on top of who you already are. Chasing surgery isn’t going to solve what you think it will, it usually just makes people look like they’re trying too hard. Work on making yourself valuable in more ways than looks, that’s where the long-term wins come from. Women are drawn to intelligence and persistence when it’s paired with confidence, and that sticks way longer than a haircut or jawline tweak. You’ll realize building those parts of yourself pays off more than anything you could do in a clinic.

You’re gonna find out, it’s just not true. We’re all here to look good, nothing wrong with that. But good looks or a big Johnson or anything like that… it’s not what’s going to get you across the finish line. It’s just not.

Self improvement is something we hold high in a pedestal, yes, do self improvement. Put your best self forward. But I get the strong sense of you feeling you aren’t enough and you need to resist that mindset. You're a smart, strong, and very persistent young man. With your resources and the qualities that you have you’re almost guaranteed success in life. So if you think you aren’t good enough even in some unclear way, it’s putting you off track for all the positive things.

Exactly

 

[toddthelineman]

Intelligence and persistence isnt enough. Women can only love someone based on the primal urge to reproduce, which is mainly looks. Ie if I want to be loved in life, I need to get as good looking as possible. Mainly thats my face, but I do consider muscle as a factor aswell. I cant increase from 6 foot 2 which sucks but thats life ig. I was looking into height surgery but im probably better off getting a lefort 2 or hair transplant in terms of return in investment.

It’s all good man. But you’re going to find out. The only question is, do you want to find out by wondering how all these guys who are lesser than you are finding success in love, or do you want to find out for yourself. Either way, you’re going to find out. What you are seeing when you think that looks is all that matters is an illusion through the lens of envy. And the women focused on men solely for their looks are not the ones you want, by your own words, though I’m paraphrasing

 

[Rurx7]

how much cardio? @Rurx7

beep test sorry. typo.

You’re overthinking it. Looks matter but they aren’t the only thing that drives attraction, plenty of women go for sharp guys who can hold a conversation and make them feel understood. Confidence, ambition, and how you carry yourself day to day matter more than a millimeter of bone or whether your hairline is perfect. I’ve seen guys with average looks do great because they’re interesting, funny, and make people want to be around them. Face and muscle help, sure, but they’re just multipliers on top of who you already are. Chasing surgery isn’t going to solve what you think it will, it usually just makes people look like they’re trying too hard. Work on making yourself valuable in more ways than looks, that’s where the long-term wins come from. Women are drawn to intelligence and persistence when it’s paired with confidence, and that sticks way longer than a haircut or jawline tweak. You’ll realize building those parts of yourself pays off more than anything you could do in a clinic.

I already have the confidence, ambition etc etc. Its just that I want to be the absolute best possible. I don't want to do "great", I want to hit the max of what can be achieved.

 

[Rurx7]

It’s all good man. But you’re going to find out. The only question is, do you want to find out by wondering how all these guys who are lesser than you are finding success in love, or do you want to find out for yourself. Either way, you’re going to find out. What you are seeing when you think that looks is all that matters is an illusion through the lens of envy. And the women focused on men solely for their looks are not the ones you want, by your own words, though I’m paraphrasing

I get what you mean, but im talking more about how people view each other subconsciously. I would never go for a woman who was chasing looks on purpose, but every woman in their mind wants an attractive man, whether they can cognitively identify that or not. No woman imagines walking down the isle to an ugly man is my point. I already do fine with women, but I just want to go that extra step to make sure that she doesnt monkey-branch from me to chad because of hypergamy. If I can get from HTN to chadlite I would be happy.

 

[toddthelineman]

I get what you mean, but im talking more about how people view each other subconsciously. I would never go for a woman who was chasing looks on purpose, but every woman in their mind wants an attractive man, whether they can cognitively identify that or not. No woman imagines walking down the isle to an ugly man is my point. I already do fine with women, but I just want to go that extra step to make sure that she doesnt monkey-branch from me to chad because of hypergamy. If I can get from HTN to chadlite I would be happy.

You’re going to do just fine. Are you thinking your future wife needs to be like, a New York 9? I’d advise caution. Humbly, I was in love with a former model. We lived together, surprised we didn’t have a kid. But it wasn’t a great experience. And she had a very low body count and everything. Confirmed, I’ve known her for many years. I’ve batted out of my league from time to time. Most of them (maybe all of them!) did not monkey branch to men better looking or more masculine than me, believe it or not. One married an attorney, for example. The dynamics change quite a lot over time, and you’re in it for the long game.

 

[Rurx7]

You’re going to do just fine. Are you thinking your future wife needs to be like, a New York 9? I’d advise caution. Humbly, I was in love with a former model. We lived together, surprised we didn’t have a kid. But it wasn’t a great experience. And she had a very low body count and everything. Confirmed, I’ve known her for many years. I’ve batted out of my league from time to time. Most of them (maybe all of them!) did not monkey branch to men better looking or more masculine than me, believe it or not. One married an attorney, for example. The dynamics change quite a lot over time, and you’re in it for the long game.

Im not too concerned about her looks, as long as she isnt chopped. The reality is though, if chad tried to steal her, he probably could at this point. I need to ascend enough to make the woman think twice before she monkeybranches. People in general dont really think about morals or whats right before taking decisions, they just go based on feeling. I need to subconsciously impact those feelings, to make it worthwhile not to hypergamymaxx. I was always taught to presume that an adult had the willpower and decisionmaking of a child ~ untill proven otherwise. My fathers education about a womans mental state was a bit more brutal but im not sure what the free speech policy is on this board.

 

[toddthelineman]

Im not too concerned about her looks, as long as she isnt chopped. The reality is though, if chad tried to steal her, he probably could at this point. I need to ascend enough to make the woman think twice before she monkeybranches. People in general dont really think about morals or whats right before taking decisions, they just go based on feeling. I need to subconsciously impact those feelings, to make it worthwhile not to hypergamymaxx. I was always taught to presume that an adult had the willpower and decisionmaking of a child ~ untill proven otherwise. My fathers education about a womans mental state was a bit more brutal but im not sure what the free speech policy is on this board.

We get the picture. No need to type it out. You can look at it that way, and it can be true. I don’t enjoy looking at things that way, even if it has bit me in the ass a few times.

 

[Rurx7]

We get the picture. No need to type it out. You can look at it that way, and it can be true. I don’t enjoy looking at things that way, even if it has bit me in the ass a few times.

I generally dont like to agree with whats he has taught me ~ but I genuinly cant argue with him. Everytime he has given me advice and I chose not to follow it, he ended up being correct.

 

[LevButlerov]

I already have the confidence, ambition etc etc. Its just that I want to be the absolute best possible. I don't want to do "great", I want to hit the max of what can be achieved.

@Rurx7 I doubt you have confidence right now based on reading your posts and talking to you, but I think you can build you confidence in time if you work with us on it.

 

[Rurx7]

@Rurx7 I doubt you have confidence right now based on reading your posts and talking to you, but I think you can build you confidence in time if you work with us on it.

Its not that im deeply insecure, cant look in the mirror etc. Im not. Im just thinking ahead for where I want to take my life. I have had girlfriends in the past but they always wanted to progress the relationship to the sheets before marriage, so i've taken a step back from relationships to focus on looksmaxxing. When im 20 I can then get an 18 year old religious woman. Currently all the religious women my age are dating 20+ year olds for obvious reasons.

 

[toddthelineman]

I generally dont like to agree with whats he has taught me ~ but I genuinly cant argue with him. Everytime he has given me advice and I chose not to follow it, he ended up being correct.

Yeah. I can picture it

 

[LevButlerov]

Its not that im deeply insecure, cant look in the mirror etc. Im not. Im just thinking ahead for where I want to take my life. I have had girlfriends in the past but they always wanted to progress the relationship to the sheets before marriage, so i've taken a step back from relationships to focus on looksmaxxing. When im 20 I can then get an 18 year old religious woman. Currently all the religious women my age are dating 20+ year olds for obvious reasons.

You're saying you reject women because they want to sleep with you? @Rurx7

 

[Rurx7]

You're saying you reject women because they want to sleep with you? @Rurx7

Im a catholic, those woman claimed to be aswell but in hindsight they obviously werent

 

[LevButlerov]

Im a catholic, those woman claimed to be aswell but in hindsight they obviously werent

I see.

 

[25homes]

Short gym session today ~ uncle duties were called in from my sister

Smith machine bench:

40 for 6 (failure)

40 for 9 (failure)

40 for 8 (failure)



Incline dumbbell press:

25 for 8 (failure)

25 for 9 (failure)

25 for 8 (failure)



Pec fly:

68 for 9 (failure)

68 for 8 (failure)

68 for 7 (failure)

@LevButlerov im keen to hear why you say don’t go to failure

Good work on the update Bru

 

[Rurx7]

Update for yesterday:
I’m estimating the lasagna. It’s homemade because my mum is on a health kick for some reason. Tastes nice so I had a bit too much. I didn't bother with deadlifts. I just couldn't be arsed to be honest, there was a 3 person queue for each deadlifting area and too many lebs.

Tbar row:

20 for 12

30 for 6

25 for 7



Face pull:

50 for 9

55 for 9

55 for 9



Assisted pull up

8

5



Bar bicep curl:

25 for 8

30 for 6

30 for 5



Hammer curl

12.5 for 8

12.5 for 7



Shrugs:

30 for 11

32.5 for 8

 

[Rurx7]

Good work on the update Bru

Thanks bro

 

[Napa1020]

Im just going to do all of them Im willing to throw any amount of money at my looks ~ theyre all that really matter in life anyway.

You shouldn't even be on this forum, you're to young. This is why I took a few steps back from this forum. Nobody should condone this

 

[LevButlerov]

You shouldn't even be on this forum, you're to young. This is why I took a few steps back from this forum. Nobody should condone this

He's not underage, I believe he's 18 turning 19 @Napa1020 While I respect your view, I disagree with it. I don't think we should drive him away, we should try to help @Rurx7, he's young and has issues he needs to resolve.
His original plan was to blast hgh etc probably more, and we talked him down from that hill.

 

[LevButlerov]

You shouldn't even be on this forum, you're to young. This is why I took a few steps back from this forum. Nobody should condone this

And @Napa1020 what happened to your log our EVO brother?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-trenbolone-anavar-zphc-new-cycle-log.104151/
No updates.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update for yesterday:
I’m estimating the lasagna. It’s homemade because my mum is on a health kick for some reason. Tastes nice so I had a bit too much. I didn't bother with deadlifts. I just couldn't be arsed to be honest, there was a 3 person queue for each deadlifting area and too many lebs.

Tbar row:

20 for 12

30 for 6

25 for 7



Face pull:

50 for 9

55 for 9

55 for 9



Assisted pull up

8

5



Bar bicep curl:

25 for 8

30 for 6

30 for 5



Hammer curl

12.5 for 8

12.5 for 7



Shrugs:

30 for 11

32.5 for 8

Your protein is very low today, you need to bring it up closer to 200, and did you do any cardio?

 

[Rurx7]

Yesterdays food. No gym yesterday, tummy ache

 

[Rurx7]

Your protein is very low today, you need to bring it up closer to 200, and did you do any cardio?

nope, had a tummy ache for a little while. I could have pushed it but I didnt . Going to do cardio today after work. It is leg day but im going to push that back because I have tons of walking to do in the city tomorrow because of a big event.

 

[Napa1020]

He's not underage, I believe he's 18 turning 19 @Napa1020 While I respect your view, I disagree with it. I don't think we should drive him away, we should try to help @Rurx7, he's young and has issues he needs to resolve.
His original plan was to blast hgh etc probably more, and we talked him down from that hill.

An 18yr old shouldn't be running anything even peptides. Food, training and sleep is what should be preached

 

[Napa1020]

And @Napa1020 what happened to your log our EVO brother?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-trenbolone-anavar-zphc-new-cycle-log.104151/
No updates.

I'm gonna make an update today

 

[Rurx7]

An 18yr old shouldn't be running anything even peptides. Food, training and sleep is what should be preached

im not running any peptides except ghkcu (which ill do in about a week after its delivered). the reason why is because I have bad skin from acne during mid teens. Hoping to reduce scarring.

 

[Rurx7]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

 

[Napa1020]

im not running any peptides except ghkcu (which ill do in about a week after its delivered). the reason why is because I have bad skin from acne during mid teens. Hoping to reduce scarring.

Accutane is the only thing will absolutely destroy and kill acne

 

[toddthelineman]

Accutane is the only thing will absolutely destroy and kill acne

His issue is scarring. His bigger issue is *probably* exposure to toxic content on the internet. I was pretty pumped that he actually started a log and is fairly consistent with it. Most of the stray youngsters that pop up here just post and ghost their mislead ideas and go on their way to who knows where. He’s a good kid.

I used accutane. It sure did work. Come to think of it @Rurx7 accutane increases cell turnover in the skin. I had significant improvement, very significant. And it was the smallest dose I could get. Less wrinkles, I looked easily five years younger. And the glow was unmatched. If it were safe I would run it forever.

They say it can be pretty toxic, and I’m NOT saying you should just do it, but you do research. I wonder what you might come up with about accutane.

While I have very oily skin and have struggled a bit with acne, I’m very resistant to scarring. My daughter gets keloids though, as does her mom. Not very bad ones, but thick red scars. I actually got her a really pretty cover up tattoo for a surgery scar when she was just 15. You don’t seem like the type for face tats though

 

[LevButlerov]

I'm gonna make an update today

Waiting

 

[LevButlerov]

Accutane is the only thing will absolutely destroy and kill acne

No good to tell him at his age to use accutane with other options on the table, including the fact that @Rurx7 still needs to clean up his diet and high doses of vitamin A would do the same.

 

[LevButlerov]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

5min cardio? is that correct? @Rurx7 that number needs to be 30min minimum.
Add pull ups to your routine each session and core work.
Food, for dinner don't eat KFC again it will give you MORE digestive issues and inflammation which will lead to more acne and scarring.
If you want to eat fast, try to get a pre grilled chicken or something less inflammatory oil used.

 

[LevButlerov]

An 18yr old shouldn't be running anything even peptides. Food, training and sleep is what should be preached

I agree, if you read the 17 pages you would see we told him the same.
But just yelling at him and telling him off doesn't work, you need to read the whole thing and try to give him advice. @Napa1020

 

[toddthelineman]

5min cardio? is that correct? @Rurx7 that number needs to be 30min minimum.
Add pull ups to your routine each session and core work.
Food, for dinner don't eat KFC again it will give you MORE digestive issues and inflammation which will lead to more acne and scarring.
If you want to eat fast, try to get a pre grilled chicken or something less inflammatory oil used.

The last time I ate KFC it felt like I’d eaten a broken bottle. I’d rather fast. Which wouldn’t hurt @Rurx7

 

[LevButlerov]

The last time I ate KFC it felt like I’d eaten a broken bottle. I’d rather fast. Which wouldn’t hurt @Rurx7

KFC is like razor blades for digestion.

 

[toddthelineman]

KFC is like razor blades for digestion.

My ex gfs dad was a food scientist for kfc. His health is pretty bad. I’m not a huge fan of science in my food.

 

[LevButlerov]

My ex gfs dad was a food scientist for kfc. His health is pretty bad. I’m not a huge fan of science in my food.

Just smelling the stuff made his health bad
but to be serious, it's the oils that are the most inflammatory.

 

[stevesmi]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

tricep push downs are incredible. situps are also on point. you won't go wrong @Rurx7

 

[BodyMonster34]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

@Rurx7 bro i love the situps and tricep training. pullover machine good real man training too. rear delt fly is on point

 

[Rurx7]

Accutane is the only thing will absolutely destroy and kill acne

Already on it

Just smelling the stuff made his health bad
but to be serious, it's the oils that are the most inflammatory.

You were the one who told me to get zingers earlier

 

[Rurx7]

@Rurx7 bro i love the situps and tricep training. pullover machine good real man training too. rear delt fly is on point

Thanks bro

 

[Mobster]

Nice to see pullovers in there

 

[2Thick]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

thanks for the updates. putting in the HOURS and building up muscle conditioning lifting the iron is what you need. and keep dialing in the diet. @Rurx7

 

[ceo]

@

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

@Rurx7 bros this some solid volume. i got mad love and respect for it. keep it up!

 

[Ulter]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

the food is getting better @Rurx7 one thing you should do more is green veggies. things like spinach or brocolli are important

 

[ROIDDERS]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

I think you are doing good! what i would recommend for you is keep nailing down the diet. and keep volume strong. the results will come the EVO family supports you @Rurx7

 

[Noah Wixx]

No good to tell him at his age to use accutane with other options on the table, including the fact that @Rurx7 still needs to clean up his diet and high doses of vitamin A would do the same.

Agreed

 

[RoySimpson]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

@Rurx7 solid work here bro keep on grinding!

 

[LevButlerov]

Agreed

We both agree

 

[LevButlerov]

You were the one who told me to get zingers earlier

zingers? lol

 

[Rurx7]

thanks for the updates. putting in the HOURS and building up muscle conditioning lifting the iron is what you need. and keep dialing in the diet. @Rurx7

@

@Rurx7 bros this some solid volume. i got mad love and respect for it. keep it up!

I think you are doing good! what i would recommend for you is keep nailing down the diet. and keep volume strong. the results will come the EVO family supports you @Rurx7

thanks guys

 

[Rurx7]

Food today. No gym. I did a short run outside and body weight exercises tho

 

[Rurx7]

@Rurx7 solid work here bro keep on grinding!

thanks bro

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Food today. No gym. I did a short run outside and body weight exercises tho

@Rurx7 Great updates man.....

 

[LevButlerov]

Food today. No gym. I did a short run outside and body weight exercises tho

Not bad for a day with no gym, I would try to add a chicken breast to this with some veggies and sweet potato.

 

[ballin2504]

Bench:

Warmup

65 for 8

65 for 7

65 for 5



Incline dumbbell press:

Warmup

30 for 5

27.5 for 8

27.5 for 5



Pec fly:

68 for 8

68 for 7

68 for 7



Smith shoulder press:

30 for 5

30 for 6

30 for 5



Machine lateral raises:

5 for 5

5 for 6

5 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 8

61 for 8

61 for 8



Pullover machine:

80 for 5

50 for 9

50 for 7



Tricep push down:

14 for 9

16 for 8

16 for 8



Sit-ups:

27

Ran 1km

@Rurx7 nice update man. Keep trying hard brother

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Food today. No gym. I did a short run outside and body weight exercises tho

add an extra protein bar on your days off to boost over 200

 

[Rurx7]

Update for yesterday:
Assisted pull up:

11

7

6



Tbar row:

30 for 7

25 for 9

25 for 8



Face pulls:

60 for 6

55 for 9

55 for 8



Shrugs:

30 for 11

30 for 11

30 for 10



Barbell bicep curl:

25 for 10

30 for 8

30 for 5



Hammer curl:

12.5 for 7

12.5 for 7

12.5 for 5



Sit-ups:

28

18

 

[LevButlerov]

Update for yesterday:
Assisted pull up:

11

7

6



Tbar row:

30 for 7

25 for 9

25 for 8



Face pulls:

60 for 6

55 for 9

55 for 8



Shrugs:

30 for 11

30 for 11

30 for 10



Barbell bicep curl:

25 for 10

30 for 8

30 for 5



Hammer curl:

12.5 for 7

12.5 for 7

12.5 for 5



Sit-ups:

28

18

You posted a message someone upset with you? who is this? @Rurx7
you should up your protein, can you budget in protein bars?

 

[Rurx7]

You posted a message someone upset with you? who is this? @Rurx7
you should up your protein, can you budget in protein bars?

oh shit mb i didnt mean to attach that. can you as an admin delete it??

 

[LevButlerov]

oh shit mb i didnt mean to attach that. can you as an admin delete it??

Done but what happened there?

 

[Rurx7]

Done but what happened there?

I was using my phone to select photos. was in a rush so I didnt double check which photos I had selected

 

[Rurx7]

Did first GHKCU injection today. Went well, felt a very slight prolonged stinging but I’ve been told this is normal.

Bench:

70 for 5

70 for 4

65 for 5



Smith incline bench:

30 for 11

30 for 12

40 for 7



Pec fly:

68 for 11

75 for 8

75 for 7



Decline sit-ups:

22



Smith shoulder press:

20 for 11

20 for 10

20 for 8



Lat raise cable machine:

5 for 7

5 for 7



Standing multiflight:

40 for 7

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 12

61 for 10

61 for 7



Rope tricep pulldown:

14 for 8

16 for 7

16 for 6

1.4km run

 

[toddthelineman]

Did first GHKCU injection today. Went well, felt a very slight prolonged stinging but I’ve been told this is normal.

Bench:

70 for 5

70 for 4

65 for 5



Smith incline bench:

30 for 11

30 for 12

40 for 7



Pec fly:

68 for 11

75 for 8

75 for 7



Decline sit-ups:

22



Smith shoulder press:

20 for 11

20 for 10

20 for 8



Lat raise cable machine:

5 for 7

5 for 7



Standing multiflight:

40 for 7

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 12

61 for 10

61 for 7



Rope tricep pulldown:

14 for 8

16 for 7

16 for 6

1.4km run

Yes I experienced the stinging as well. Looks like you’re starting to lean out!

 

[LevButlerov]

Did first GHKCU injection today. Went well, felt a very slight prolonged stinging but I’ve been told this is normal.

Bench:

70 for 5

70 for 4

65 for 5



Smith incline bench:

30 for 11

30 for 12

40 for 7



Pec fly:

68 for 11

75 for 8

75 for 7



Decline sit-ups:

22



Smith shoulder press:

20 for 11

20 for 10

20 for 8



Lat raise cable machine:

5 for 7

5 for 7



Standing multiflight:

40 for 7

40 for 6



Rear delt fly:

61 for 12

61 for 10

61 for 7



Rope tricep pulldown:

14 for 8

16 for 7

16 for 6

1.4km run

Overall good training day, BUT the mac and cheese for lunch can you replace that with something? @Rurx7 like rice and chicken or even a protein bar or 2. Bench you need to do more bench sets at least 5 and cut other sets out.

 

[Rurx7]

Yes I experienced the stinging as well. Looks like you’re starting to lean out!

im not trying to I need to eat more

Overall good training day, BUT the mac and cheese for lunch can you replace that with something? @Rurx7 like rice and chicken or even a protein bar or 2. Bench you need to do more bench sets at least 5 and cut other sets out.

my friends mum made it so I was kind of forced to eat it. I didnt want to be rude. Im starting to integrate more protein bars/shakes into my diet to supplement.