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Wow brother that sucks! Main thing is neither of you were severely hurt, cars can always be fixed or replaced.
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Dude that is intense
Yeah of course. It's just a 3k SUV. My wife kept bugging me to take our new 2025 SUV. I was hard no to her and she was getting frustrated with me. I told her we will take the old 2007SUV that way if anything happens its not your new SUV that she uses daily. Also I just fixed it and wanted to see if it was really fix and reliable to drive out of town. It was riding good until we tried to drive it off another vehicle up on 2 wheels. Lol. It didn't quite make it like the cars on the Dukes of Hazard's old TV show use to when they go up on 2 wheels. She was like glad u didn't take mine. It was like I knew something was going to happen. When me and the boys get together it's pretty common shit happens.
Just a universal trend for blokes isnt it hahaha
Aw hell. Bummer man
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Main thing is respect with friends happy you have it
Sounds like the trip ended rough. You just got the SUV back on the road and then that happens, that’s tough luck. Good thing nobody was seriously hurt and you had backup rides to get home. Forearm soreness will heal, but losing the car without collision coverage stings. At least the other vehicle was empty so no bigger problems came from it. Sometimes all you can do is shake it off and move forward. @kcates
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That's a good set
Good work here bro
Now I have a backpack just for supplements, protein, and meds. Kind of seems extreme but it worked out perfect for travel. Had all my stuff in it and my shaker cups in it.was the burger any good?
I like you keeping the meals to 2mAD.
It's smart not to drink
And you're hardcore true EVO iron brother you have the meds protein bars and whey perfect!
Im sure you'll be fine without the caffeine. You've tapered down pretty well.
Sorry to hear about the suv. Glad you walked away mostly ok.
Yeah, had to have it junked today basically for the cost of the tow yard fee i had to pay. Oh well. It wasn't worth paying the tow fee and getting it back to Jacksonville to then repair it. It would have cost more then it was worth. Just best to find another one.
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Day 2 of no caffeine just woke up. Since I don't have work yet I have my alarm off and just sleeping as long as I can. I slept 9 hours last night. Then I remembered to get my blood pressure after waking it is the best I have had in years. I cant remember the last time I had levels like that 106/64 pulse 78. I guess I have prove that for me preworkout or other caffeine supplements aren't good for me. Got to keep that heart muscle healthy just like the rest of them. I am glad I was able to narrow this down and figure it out.
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15 min stair climber level 5
45 min treadmill speed 3 incline 7
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs, 3 ounces of rice, and 6 ounces of beef.
50 gram protein shake with water and peanut butter fit powder.
Dinner: 1lb of chicken thighs
Training:
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15 min stair climber level 5
45 min treadmill speed 3 incline 7
Diet:
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs, 3 ounces of rice, and 6 ounces of beef.
50 gram protein shake with water and peanut butter fit powder.
Dinner: 1lb of chicken thighs
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Wow that's amazing. My BP hasn't even been that low. All from the caffeine? Wow
Yeah, it's crazy. When I talked to the doc about it in the past he said it shouldn't be raising it that much. Because of that I was for awhile I was looking at other reasons for it to increase but kept coming back to thinking it's got to be the preworkout and stuff. I finally decided to get off it and see what happens. That was hard to do glad I tapered because I am addicted to caffeine for sure. Apparently for me it does cause that problem. Maybe I am super sensitive to it. I don't know but going to stay off of it to keep my heart healthy.
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Training:
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15 min stairclimber level 5
45 min treadmill speed 3 incline 7
Diet:
Daily Supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs and 50 gram protein shake with water and peanut butter fit powder.
Afternoon meal: 1lb of pork loin
Dinner: 12 ounces of baked chicken thighs
I feel like I ate to much meat this day. Get back on things tomorrow.
Training:
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15 min stairclimber level 5
45 min treadmill speed 3 incline 7
Diet:
Daily Supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs and 50 gram protein shake with water and peanut butter fit powder.
Afternoon meal: 1lb of pork loin
Dinner: 12 ounces of baked chicken thighs
I feel like I ate to much meat this day. Get back on things tomorrow.
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that’s a huge win dialing that in, those numbers look clean and your body is clearly thanking you for pulling the caffeine. getting 9 hours straight is already a recovery boost on its own, and pairing that with lower bp sets you up for better training long term. sometimes it’s just about removing the thing that’s holding you back, not always adding more. now you know preworkouts and stims aren’t worth the tradeoff for you, so stick with the basics that keep you steady. keep tracking and locking in sleep like this and your progress will move smoother.
Dinner need veggies again
@kcates You can swap the meat at dinner for eggs and veggies, how about that?
Wow that's good to know cuz I drink a ton of coffee. My doc said it's good for my liver. If my bp gets outta hand this is really good to know.
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Caffeine and BP relation isn't the same for all users @BeMe fyi
Worth a shot tho. I can quit anything easily at this point in my life. The will power is strong after all I've been through. It would be worth a try next time my BP gets up high
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It's a start I agree to try
Looks like it was a BP light switch for @kcatesIt's a start I agree to try
His BP reading is that of a healthy teenager lol. Amazing work on his part!
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Day 3 of no caffeine. Last night I had 10 hours on the bipap but from 3-4 I didn't sleep well. I will call it another 9 hours of solid sleep. I actually didn't want to get up when I did but I need to get up and get going today. Yesterday I didn't have any sleepiness in the afternoon. Afternoon blood pressure was 120/70 pulse 87. Feeling better. The real test will be when I start working again and have to manual labor all day. Looks like I will test that tomorrow.
It wasn't easy and it's still not easy to not put some in. I still have that crave for it. Tapering off helped with not feeling to bad. Also when I did use it I mixed it with my drink in the morning of supplements and the one after training. Those drinks I am use to having I still drink they just don't have the pre-work out in one and Fuel in the other. So I still have that habit of having that flavored drink at those times that can have now it's just creatine, HMB, electrolytes, beta allanine and/or psyllium husk. I think still having that routine in place and tasting the same drink still just not the caffeine in it made me feel like I didn't miss anything. I think those were the big things that helped getting off so far.
I just need to get out of the habit of eating so much meat at meals. I think it's just a habit and replace that amount of meat with veggies. Help me figure this out. Do I need to just eat my 200 -225 grams of protein. Like today I am at 139 grams of protein already. I only need 70-80 more grams of protein today. Or should I just cut my meat intake at night in half only eat 8 ounces of meat and eat 8 ounces of veggies. How should I go about this?that’s a huge win dialing that in, those numbers look clean and your body is clearly thanking you for pulling the caffeine. getting 9 hours straight is already a recovery boost on its own, and pairing that with lower bp sets you up for better training long term. sometimes it’s just about removing the thing that’s holding you back, not always adding more. now you know preworkouts and stims aren’t worth the tradeoff for you, so stick with the basics that keep you steady. keep tracking and locking in sleep like this and your progress will move smoother.
Dinner need veggies again
You can swap the meat at dinner for eggs and veggies, how about that?
How many carbs a day are you getting?
Keep a good balance of carbs and protein, do not give up any of the protein and keep your calories in a deficit and you will be great.
Play with the numbers and find out what suites your body the best and then run with it
Keep a good balance of carbs and protein, do not give up any of the protein and keep your calories in a deficit and you will be great.
Play with the numbers and find out what suites your body the best and then run with it
i just eat protein basically. Some days I will have 3 ounces of rice at meal after training
like today i had 6 eggs, can of chicken breast, and protein shake. a small bag of pork jerky. Then for dinner I typically will eat a pound of meat. Not really any carbs to balance today. i am probably going to have a little more then half a pound, 10 ounces, of meat which puts me at right around 200 grams of protein for the day.
like today i had 6 eggs, can of chicken breast, and protein shake. a small bag of pork jerky. Then for dinner I typically will eat a pound of meat. Not really any carbs to balance today. i am probably going to have a little more then half a pound, 10 ounces, of meat which puts me at right around 200 grams of protein for the day.
That sounds good.
I like the training. I like seeing how every person has a different approach to their dietary needs.
Since i don't eat many carbs i thinking I need to make sure I don't over eat protein and stay around the 200 grams a day mark while i cut down. Then when its time to bulk again I can jump back up i am thinking 300-400 grams a day in the future. What do you think about that plan?
I never wanna wake up on any morning so I get you there. Some of us just aren't morning people.
The first few days getting back on the tools are always rough. Even if I take some time off for a vacation and go back it's hard the first couple days back. You'll get right back into the swing of things quick though
If you're eating lean meats like chicken breast or lean cuts of beef, or pork tenderloin, you don't need to worry about eating a lot of protein. I'd be more worried about eating too many carbs.
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You only need to hit that 200-225g protein mark, going over by stuffing in extra meat doesn’t give you much benefit besides more calories. Since you’re already at 139g mid-day, you can easily get the rest with smaller portions of meat plus a shake or some eggs. Cutting your dinner meat portion in half and swapping the rest for veggies is a smart move, keeps you fuller without overshooting protein. Stick with that balance and you’ll feel lighter while still covering recovery needs. @kcates
This is what I was thinking. What works for me is a 2:1 Protein to fat ratio with almost zero carbs except maybe Karbolyn before leg day. Because I'm doing a clean bulk at the moment that's upwards of 700g Protein with 350g Fat and always less than 50 Carbs. The fat melts off and then stays off. (For me at least). I also fast from 8pm-6am every day.
I am a morning person luckily. I am usually looking forward to waking up early so I can go to the gym. I been off the tools for I think 6 weeks now. See how tomorrow goes.
It’s the sleep, I believe, that is lowering your blood pressure so effectively, and the caffeine works against that secondarily by lowering your sleep quality. This is what I’ve come to after a lot of trial and error. But anyway this is amazing bro! You might need to come off bp meds if this stays consistent and with that kind of sleep your body is just going to keep responding really well to whatever you want it to do
Ah man I hate you morning people LOL. Always so bright and cheery in the morning haha.
You'll get right back into the grind once you're on the job. The physical part takes a couple days. You'll probably be sore tomorrow tonight haha
Could be the relationship between the two. For me all I know is the blood pressure came down as I was reducing the caffeine. Literally as I dropped each week my bp went down right along with the reduction of caffeine. When I was on caffeine I slept 8 hours typically a day. The sleep didn't start getting 9 hours until this week when I completely went off. I feel the quality of sleep is the same. I got only 8 hours last night and woke up about 4 times last night. Everyday after using my caffeine supplements my bp would raise about 30/10 by afternoon. Today I am exhausted already and it is only 8:50 am. I am missing that caffeine today. I am noticing some fatigue of not being on it but no headaches at all. As I show consistent bp levels I will work with my doctor to reduce the telmisartan. As I look back over time I can see that my use of caffeine mainly when I went to using monster energy drinks back in the day was when my BP became a problem and I had to start using bp medicine and it never helped really. If I hadn't been using it when using the energy drinks it would have been way worse I am sure so it did do something. What I have learned my energy levels should balance back out in 3-4 weeks. Overall for me I have learned that stuff isn't good for my heart and I have seen the data proving it, so I will just not use it. Which is a win and I am glad I figured it out and got off of itIt’s the sleep, I believe, that is lowering your blood pressure so effectively, and the caffeine works against that secondarily by lowering your sleep quality. This is what I’ve come to after a lot of trial and error. But anyway this is amazing bro! You might need to come off bp meds if this stays consistent and with that kind of sleep your body is just going to keep responding really well to whatever you want it to do
I'm luckily and blessed I don't get sore from work it's just the exhaustion part for me at this age that I am concerned about. I mainly do interior and exterior finish work. I get to do all the custom, cool, and pretty stuff on houses. I don't really get sore from working out that often either. This new program doing a lot of unilateral work I got a little sore first week but nothing now in my second phase.
Awesome dude
I been slacking on my daily logging. I am just going to attach the workouts for the rest of this week I am mussing. I did my normal cardio this weeke except Saturday I didn't do any cardio. Today I was sore from Squats on Saturday so I took the whole day off and stayed home and did chores around the house. Hopefully the legs feel better tomorrow as I get back at it. I haven't SSB squats since Aug 9th and I can tell today. My hamstrings are sore from it. Lev I think my dinner plan is going to eat up a big bag of veggies at dinner and see how hungry I am after to decide how much meat I eat. Tonight after eating veggies I only had 8 ounces of pork loin. I am still eating 6 eggs in the am either having 12 ounces of meat or a protein shake with it.
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Nothing wrong with pulling back a day when the squats hit that hard, soreness just means you woke those hamstrings back up after being off SSB for that long. Veggies first at dinner is a good call, fills you up clean then you can gauge how much meat you really need, and 8oz pork loin is plenty on top. Keeping the 6 eggs in the morning plus either 12oz meat or a shake keeps your protein base locked in, that consistency is what matters most. Legs will bounce back quick once you settle back into the groove.
I do want to see more cardio if your job is ok now. @kcates
An hour a day of cardio is all I have time for. I do 15 min of stair climber and 45 min on the treadmill except workout days (Monday, Wednesday, Friday) I may only do 30 min which would be 15min stair climber and 15 min treadmill. Depends on my fatigue of I honking or short. I am still pretty fatigued right now being off caffeine.Nothing wrong with pulling back a day when the squats hit that hard, soreness just means you woke those hamstrings back up after being off SSB for that long. Veggies first at dinner is a good call, fills you up clean then you can gauge how much meat you really need, and 8oz pork loin is plenty on top. Keeping the 6 eggs in the morning plus either 12oz meat or a shake keeps your protein base locked in, that consistency is what matters most. Legs will bounce back quick once you settle back into the groove.
I am not really pushing the squats. Since I am doing this unilateral program. I don't do any squats bench or deadlift until phase 4. I just started phase 3 and it's 3 weeks. I just miss doing my 3 main lifts. So on Saturdays I am doing on of them each Saturday. Bench then next week deadlift then next week squat. Just to make myself happy and feel good. I didn't mention in last post all my other days are for sure 1 hour cardio. Week before I am pretty sure I got an hour of cardio every day
This first week off caffeine I am dragging. Hope this week is better.
This first week off caffeine I am dragging. Hope this week is better.
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That’s still a solid setup, an hour of mixed cardio daily is plenty to drive conditioning especially splitting stairs and treadmill. Cutting it to 30 minutes on lift days makes sense, no need to burn yourself out more when fatigue is already up from dropping caffeine. Once your body adjusts you’ll notice energy come back and those sessions will feel smoother.
That’s a solid way to keep the program intact but still feed the need to touch the big lifts, rotating bench, dead, and squat each Saturday will scratch that itch without pulling you off track. Getting an hour of cardio in daily on top makes sure conditioning stays sharp. First week without caffeine is always rough but your body will level out, you’ll notice the cardio and lifts feel smoother as you settle in. @kcates
I have read that it can take up to 3-4 weeks for the energy to come back sometimes. Today felt better. I did my workout and got my hour of cardio in. See how things go for the next 3 weeks and come out the other end a better man.
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15 min stair climber level 5
Treadmill speed 3 incline 8
Diet
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs, 12 ounces of chicken, and 6 ounces of rice.
Snack: 59 gram protein shake with water and peanut butter fit powder.
Dinner: bag of corn and a bag of peas it made a huge bowl of veggies. Then 6 ounces of pork loin afternoon ate my veggies. Crazy thing is I am not hungry but still want to eat. May need to move my Mounjaro up to 12.5 mg.
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15 min stair climber level 5
Treadmill speed 3 incline 8
Diet
Daily supplements and meds
Meal after training: 6 eggs, 12 ounces of chicken, and 6 ounces of rice.
Snack: 59 gram protein shake with water and peanut butter fit powder.
Dinner: bag of corn and a bag of peas it made a huge bowl of veggies. Then 6 ounces of pork loin afternoon ate my veggies. Crazy thing is I am not hungry but still want to eat. May need to move my Mounjaro up to 12.5 mg.
Lev, In October 31st I see my doc after blood work. You have talked about using equipoise and also doing 300mg a week test. I don't want to do a full on cycle yet I am thinking I may wait until next year. So do I just do 300mg of test or do I do I add some equipoise to my TRT until my next cycle. Even add a little deca to my TRT. What should I do until my next cycle next year or if blood work is good do I go ahead and do a cycle? I am not sure which direction to go next. Looking for advice?
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that’s about right, energy can take a few weeks to really bounce back but sounds like you’re already turning the corner. Getting your workout and full hour of cardio in shows you’re pushing through the dip. Stay steady for these next 3 weeks and you’ll come out sharper and stronger for it.
Good session with the stair climber and treadmill, that combo keeps conditioning tight. Meals are protein heavy, eggs and chicken with rice right after training is a strong start, then the shake keeps the numbers high. Big veggie bowl with pork loin is clean eating, so even if appetite isn’t there you’re still covered. If hunger control is that strong on Mounjaro already, moving to 12.5mg might lock it down even more, just make sure energy stays steady with training.
If you’re seeing your doc Oct 31 it makes sense to just hold steady until you get the bloods back, then you’ll know exactly where you stand. 300mg test a week is already more than a TRT dose, so that alone will keep you feeling good without adding extra compounds. Equipoise or deca would technically turn it into a cycle, even at low doses, and if you want to save that push for next year you’ll respond better when you do (or even the late Fall?). Best move right now is run test only, wait on bloodwork, then decide after if it’s worth going full cycle or just cruising until you’re ready.
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Thanks, that is what I thought but just want reassurance on what I thought was best. I will stay at 200mg test until blood work. Things look good I will go to 300mg until next cycle. Does that sound like the plan?that’s about right, energy can take a few weeks to really bounce back but sounds like you’re already turning the corner. Getting your workout and full hour of cardio in shows you’re pushing through the dip. Stay steady for these next 3 weeks and you’ll come out sharper and stronger for it.
Good session with the stair climber and treadmill, that combo keeps conditioning tight. Meals are protein heavy, eggs and chicken with rice right after training is a strong start, then the shake keeps the numbers high. Big veggie bowl with pork loin is clean eating, so even if appetite isn’t there you’re still covered. If hunger control is that strong on Mounjaro already, moving to 12.5mg might lock it down even more, just make sure energy stays steady with training.
If you’re seeing your doc Oct 31 it makes sense to just hold steady until you get the bloods back, then you’ll know exactly where you stand. 300mg test a week is already more than a TRT dose, so that alone will keep you feeling good without adding extra compounds. Equipoise or deca would technically turn it into a cycle, even at low doses, and if you want to save that push for next year you’ll respond better when you do (or even the late Fall?). Best move right now is run test only, wait on bloodwork, then decide after if it’s worth going full cycle or just cruising until you’re ready.
Tuesday:
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15 min stair climber level 5
45 min treadmill speed 3 incline 8
Diet:
Daily Supplements and meds
meal after training: 6 eggs, 12 ounces of chicken and 6 ounces of white rice.
snacks: protein bad and Korean bbq pork jerky
Dinner: I am not sure what it was. My wife said it was tacos but it was ground beef, refried beans, corn, and a little bit of white rice all mixed together. I just ate a little bit.
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15 min stair climber level 5
45 min treadmill speed 3 incline 8
Diet:
Daily Supplements and meds
meal after training: 6 eggs, 12 ounces of chicken and 6 ounces of white rice.
snacks: protein bad and Korean bbq pork jerky
Dinner: I am not sure what it was. My wife said it was tacos but it was ground beef, refried beans, corn, and a little bit of white rice all mixed together. I just ate a little bit.
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Yes that will work
though 250mgs is a better dose for you on test imo.Can you handle oatmeal or you need rice? @kcates
Cardio volume looks good with both stair climber and treadmill in the same session, that’s a solid calorie burn early in the week. Post training meal was strong protein with 6 eggs and 12oz chicken plus rice, plenty to refill. Snacks were clean enough too, jerky and a bar won’t hurt. Dinner mix was fine in moderation, ground beef and beans still give protein, just watch portions since it’s harder to track exact calories there. Especially with corn.
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I also feel this is a smart play here too. No sense to change something until you understand exactly where your body and health is at. Save the deca and eq possibilities for next year, cruise into Christmas and enjoy.
@kcates how do you do on the beans? it can be tough to digest. i would suggest some digestive enzymes
I feel fine. My gut processes just about anything. I have always had like a gut of steel. The only thing I have learned that will mess with me is if I don't chew my corn. If I eat corn to fast and swallow a bunch of it while. I am crapping it out soon. I learned I have to chew it all up into mush and I am good to go. I really like corn.
bros you are looking good on this @kcates the diet and snacks look good. i love the dinner
At dinner I am short on time because i get home and only have about 2 hours until i got to go to bed. I got to spend time with the wife, my son and finish any office work. She will get dinner ready for when I walk in the door from work. I am hungry at that time for sure. Weekends of course I typically do cook and prep food then. Its just what works with the schedule right now.
@kcates Keep tightening up the diet, man. Be careful with that barbecue jerky. A lot of times, they put a lot of junk in there, you should make your own.
If I may, I would swap the 8oz of pork for 7 oz of chicken breast. Don’t get me wrong, I love me some pig!! But the bang for the buck, or I should say, Protein to Calories is better with the chicken. Better for recovery as wellNothing wrong with pulling back a day when the squats hit that hard, soreness just means you woke those hamstrings back up after being off SSB for that long. Veggies first at dinner is a good call, fills you up clean then you can gauge how much meat you really need, and 8oz pork loin is plenty on top. Keeping the 6 eggs in the morning plus either 12oz meat or a shake keeps your protein base locked in, that consistency is what matters most. Legs will bounce back quick once you settle back into the groove.
BBQ korean sounds good. i used to date a korean lady years ago. that was before i met my ex wife. she was a good cook too @kcates
Amazing job on the supplements and medications. @kcates Doing the eggs and chicken is really smart with the rice. That's a good mix of protein, carbs and fats.
yeah i seem to have issues with corn too.
I learned somewhere to make sure you chew it up real good to get past the outer skin and you won't have the issues. Now that I chew it up real good I don't have the issues any longer. It's when I eat fast and don't chew I have the issues.Everyone does.
Haha you mean we need to chew our food and not inhale it, when we are starving from grinding hard all morning?
At least with corn! I still inhale all my other food. Lol.
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that's a good swap for sure
I was eating up left overs this morning. I hate seeing food go to waste and it was about at it's end for it's fridge stay. Personally I prefer chicken thighs to breast. I am not a big fan of breast unless they are smoked and juicy.
Man, I wish I had the time to do that!
I hear you there! I grind all my meats
In burger meat so I can keep it moist and I can eat it without getting tired of it
my gf pointed out to me a year ago "everytime you eat corn you throw up that night" so she figured it out for me lol.
i'm not going to tempt fate trying it again
Nope! I wouldn’t either!
@kcates solid cardio day right here! Stair climber is no joke!
there are videos online how to do it. you really just have to get a fillet knife and slice them thin and smoke them outside
We typically pound them with the tenderizer to get them thinner and then smoke them. Which unlike doing but just been so busy haven't had the time to use the smoker on the weekends lately. I hope to be able to use it soon.
Wow, that serious almost like an allergic reaction. I would stay far away from that. Nobody likes up chucking the
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I heard someone else say that so they can eat more when they were on a high calorie diet. I think it was someone like Jay Cutler or maybe someone on his podcast. I can't remember who it was but that was there key to get all the meat down on 8000 calories a day.
it could be an allergy, or it could be due to its high fiber content.Wow, that serious almost like an allergic reaction. I would stay far away from that. Nobody likes up chucking the
I don’t know, but I do know it makes easier to measure, weigh and season for taste
You bring up high fiber content. Are some people not able to consume high fiber diets? If so would that mean those types of people it wouldn't be good to recommend using psyllium husk?
100% man. people with crohns disease for example should never take husk or high fiber diets. it can literally kill them
i have a type of IBS which prevents me from messing with high fiber foods, i also avoid fermented foods and high fodmap foods, or things like tomato sauce which are very acidy in the stomach.
really based on our genetics, there are foods that we can tolerate and foods we cannot. thats the nice thing about the genetic testing we have today. i think you mentioned you are native american in one of your posts. i think with you guys sugary and high carb foods like bread and that sort of thing are a big no no. because once the natives in the USA started eating the european foods (white man foods) they brought over in the early 1900's your people went from being very healthy to very obese and sick in this country. the reservations went from 5% obesity rates to 90% obesity rates in 1 generation. it is 100% the food !
@kcates great update man keep it up. You’re doing very well.
maybe post up a pic of the smoker and some recommendations and tips when you do it.
I got a huge one in the yard made of stainless steel that I haven't used in over 6 years on a trailer. I need to sell it. Then I have a smaller one that is gravity fed wood chunks that is perfect size for my family. I will get pics when I get home. We're traveling this weekend.
Yeah u are 100% right about me being native Cherokee and the whole diet thing. Not only the food carbs but also the alcohol carbs messed us up also in more ways then one. Even before I changed my diet I knew we were suppose to mainly eat veggies and meat because that is what we are for only for generations prior. Our culture in diet has what we call the "3 sisters" corn, beans, and squash. Then we ate deer, bear, and fish. I guess that explains why I probably do fine with the corn and beans. You just recently ask if I do ok on the beans. I do good on the corn if I don't inhale it and chew it up. I didn't even think about that until you just wrote this message and it reminded me of that. Good reminder to stick to the veggies and meat only for me.
i just had a conversation yesterday with a client who lost 50 pounds. she went from 166 to 116 following my advice, she hasn't been that lean since middle school. but she was flabbergasted at how easy it was to lose weight cause she had tried every diet and every drug with no success. i had her do all of the things i recommend on here. food prep, fasted cardio, lots of fasting and time restricted eating daily, etc. i catered her diet to her genetics as well cause she had been given extremely thin advice her whole life and parents taught her horrible food choices that did not match what she actually should eat.
anyway one of the big things i had her do was cut out the alcohol and she could not believe how much of a difference it made. the big thing as you said is people don't realize that drinking alcohol is like eating pure sugar in the body, its like crack. and its worse too as it is double the amount of dirty carbs. so if you take a shot of hard liquor its like taking 2 shots of sugar. yikes! she was drinking evernight and now she rarely drinks, maybe a couple sips of wine once every 2 weeks. it made a huge difference but the key is she is motivated to keep it going. she actually complains that she is so skinny when she sits she can feel her bones on the chair lol. i guess thats a good thing but shows how much diet changes can make
i think the point though is as you said if we understand our genetics and know what foods to avoid then it makes it so damn easy to get healthy. people view it as a negative, but i view it as a positive and a cheat code. i think you likely have the enzymes needed to break down beans/peas/ much easier then someone like me. i can remember working out with this chick years ago who invited me back to her place for a 'protein meal' as she put it. well she cooked up a pot of beans and it was good. this was like our 3rd date and i spent about 2 hours in her bathroom with explosive diarhea, it was super embarassing. she kept knocking on the door asking if i was okay. i felt really bad for stinking up her whole house and she wasn't very happy about it. lol
sounds good and maybe some tips/advice on how to use it. and how much they cost. i might get one
I bought a master built gravity fed charcoal smoker. They are so simple to use now. Most meats your trying to cook to 165 up to about 200 205 degrees fehrenheight depending on the end result if you want to shred up a pork shoulder for pulled pork your getting up to 200 or if your just smoking chicken breast stay down around 165 for example. I have a thermometer that has 4 wire with probes that I can place in the meat. Both the smoker and the thermometer have Bluetooth apps and the smoker will hook to my wifi. I get the smoker going. Set the temp to 225. Reaches temp. Put the meat in and let it go until I hit desired temp is the basics. As your learn different meats you learn about rubs you like, how to brine the meat if you like, when to take it off being smoked and wrapped in tinfoil. You just read about different recipes and watch other guys on YouTube on things they do. I will say with the smoker I have we don't use charcoal. I figured out we can just drop chunks of pecan wood in there and it works the same in the gravity fed chamber. I have a buddy who is a tree guy and when he cuts down pecan trees I go pick up the logs and then we split it at the house. Then come time to cook we use the miter saw cut the logs into small chunks. We fill about 3 5 gallon buck full to make sure we have plenty for a day. See attached pic of the one I bought a couple of years ago. Now they have a newer model for about the same price the 1150 for I think 1099 at Homedepot.
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My oldest son has one of these, the rest of us have traegers. I never use the oven in the house anymore.
I didn't go traeger because I didn't want to use pellets. I have tons of real wood at my disposal and wanted to use it. This worked perfect to put real wood in. Plus I wanted that real wood for taste. I have never tried pellets so not sure if they taste the same as real smoked wood.
Yeah after posting last night it got me digging more into my ancestors diets. They were agricultural first then hunter gathers second. Even before white man they lived in houses typically on rivers. They were a stationary tribe on the east coast. They didn't live in teepees like we think most Indians did. That explains the agriculture lifestyle they had vs the plains Indians who had to follow there food as it migrated around. I think I may start learning more about there diet and incorporating it see what it does for me. They actually made kinds of breads out of ground corn and beans and nuts. Then I learned as they got sent off on the trail of tears. They got put on rations from the government and that is where there diet went to shit. The rations were suppose to be just enough to keep them going until they restarted planting crops and hunting. But like any social assistance people end up wanting to stay on it because it's easier. So they did for the most part and there health went to crap. They were giving them a product like spam they said and even today they still use that spam like product mixed in with other stuff as a newer traditional food since the trail of tears. Pretty interesting I thought.
I’ve looked into pre-industrial food a little bit. I think you could get a lot out of this both nutrition and just satisfaction.
They had very specific ways of preparing corn and acorns and everything that you’ll want to pay attention to. A similar example would be how tortillas were traditionally made with lime to extract the nutrients, and when a lot of Mexicans were migrating north they were sold tortillas that were processed cheaply and not fortified, so there was a really high amount of birth defects from maternal malnutrition. Soaking is a big part of it all. I don’t really know much at all, I’m just barely aware that they had processing that made it work.
My kids are part Cherokee, actually. You can see it in their mom quite a bit.
Oh yes, I get it. I have another LARGE smoker, 94 gallon Mill Scale.
I use that for when I want to really throw down.
The Traeger is great for convenience and the pellets do offer some good flavor.
Smoking food is an addiction that I don’t want to ever give up
Yeah the big one I have to throw logs in and monitor it the whole time. I like the new digital one you can basically set and forget. Watch it on the phone app. I been slacking though. Life has just been so busy. I do love smoking meat. I also enjoy using or Blackstone. We got rid of the regular grill and the green egg. We just use the Blackstone and smoker unless we're being lazy just use the stove or air fryer.Oh yes, I get it. I have another LARGE smoker, 94 gallon Mill Scale.
I use that for when I want to really throw down.
The Traeger is great for convenience and the pellets do offer some good flavor.
Smoking food is an addiction that I don’t want to ever give up
Another cook on the forum!!
Nice!!
I always post meals, right now they are all the same….but every now and then I throw on a big brisket or butt and post. I love!!
I am making my own rubs, but I really love Meat Church rubs, Pittman hasnit going in for
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there is a good story i saw the other day. a guy from greece moves to the USA in his 20's. raises a family, has a business, makes money etc. at 60 he develops diabetes, cancer, blood pressure issues, heart disease, kidney issues etc. doctor says he has a year to live. moves back to greece to spend his final year. turns out he is still alive at 80 and more healthy now then he was at 40. all he changed was his stress, food, and got away from the american crappy food.
