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One year I did 4. Too fkin many.
We can, of course, agree or disagree. But it's hardly outdated. Heck, on that very show I said the idea of pyramiding up and down was discussed by a buddy of mine and highly recommended 30+ years ago. Dated enough?
And, as written, IF I was on a longer ester and stopped pinning this week it'd take a while to clear the system. So less of a crash surely. Vs a high dose shot ester stopped WOULD cause a crash.
There is, IMO, ZERO need for anyone who's run a cycle previously, to pyramid up on every cycle for example. The problem is, as written, they'd need to do that every time when obviously they do not. Ditto having solid info here on Evo re doses etc rather than having to work it out for themselves every time. We do say (and have done before) that we aim to inform the majority of users vs specific athletes.
I'd argue it's all very dose related. If, as is all too common now, people take 3-6g a week and stop... gonna be far more of an issue vs someone on 1000mg and under
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90% of Pharma grade is same generics repackaged with nice labels fyi @BeMe
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Thank you for writing this up @Mobster
I respect and support you always, and I love having this open dialogue.IMO, Pyramiding with long esters makes sense because these drugs accumulate over 4-5 half lives and early high doses stack on residual levels to create avoidable peaks. Starting lower and building lets you find the minimum effective dose while keeping e2 blood pressure and hematocrit from spiking.
Long esters like test e test c and deca have half lives in days not hours so their concentration is dose over clearance times accumulation. A graduated ramp up means smaller week to week concentration jumps and fewer sides while you dial in AI and BP management as I just mentioned.
With deca specifically tapering matters because nandrolones progestin activity lingers longer than test which is why many run test higher at the end or taper deca first. A step down avoids the classic libido crash and ED that show up when nandrolone outlasts test. Heard of "deca dick" right?
Tapering down on long esters smooths the fall in androgen load while serum is still clearing which reduces withdrawal symptoms mood swings and rebound e2. It also buys time for labs to guide PCT timing rather than crashing hard and guessing the start date. That would also apply for TRT, you want to know when to properly play TRT past the bridge phase. I have my clients do that all the time. @Mobster
Clinical TRT data show splitting and smoothing doses reduces peak to trough swings (think ED pins or EOD) and side effects and pyramiding is the same safety logic applied at the start and end of a blast. Less volatility equals fewer side effects and better adherence without sacrificing gains.
A practical template I've given my clients looks like this for a 12 week test e and deca run. Weeks 1-2 at 1/2 dose, weeks 3-8 at target dose ,weeks 9-10 at 2/3rds dose, weeks 11-12 at 1/3 dose then clear and start PCT when levels reach the right level +/- here, and that would apply for the bridge into self-TRT as well.
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I love reading intelligent respectful debate like this from two highly experienced individuals. This is fukn awesome! For us regular guys we get to hear both sides of the discussion and gain more knowledge in doing so. Too often we only get 1 sided opinions so this is very special.Thank you for writing this up @Mobster
IMO, Pyramiding with long esters makes sense because these drugs accumulate over 4-5 half lives and early high doses stack on residual levels to create avoidable peaks. Starting lower and building lets you find the minimum effective dose while keeping e2 blood pressure and hematocrit from spiking.
Long esters like test e test c and deca have half lives in days not hours so their concentration is dose over clearance times accumulation. A graduated ramp up means smaller week to week concentration jumps and fewer sides while you dial in AI and BP management as I just mentioned.
With deca specifically tapering matters because nandrolones progestin activity lingers longer than test which is why many run test higher at the end or taper deca first. A step down avoids the classic libido crash and ED that show up when nandrolone outlasts test. Heard of "deca dick" right?
Tapering down on long esters smooths the fall in androgen load while serum is still clearing which reduces withdrawal symptoms mood swings and rebound e2. It also buys time for labs to guide PCT timing rather than crashing hard and guessing the start date. That would also apply for TRT, you want to know when to properly play TRT past the bridge phase. I have my clients do that all the time. @Mobster
Clinical TRT data show splitting and smoothing doses reduces peak to trough swings (think ED pins or EOD) and side effects and pyramiding is the same safety logic applied at the start and end of a blast. Less volatility equals fewer side effects and better adherence without sacrificing gains.
A practical template I've given my clients looks like this for a 12 week test e and deca run. Weeks 1-2 at 1/2 dose, weeks 3-8 at target dose ,weeks 9-10 at 2/3rds dose, weeks 11-12 at 1/3 dose then clear and start PCT when levels reach the right level +/- here, and that would apply for the bridge into self-TRT as well.
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Gotta love a good debate. @stevesmi has had me change my mind during show debates.Thank you for writing this up @Mobster
IMO, Pyramiding with long esters makes sense because these drugs accumulate over 4-5 half lives and early high doses stack on residual levels to create avoidable peaks. Starting lower and building lets you find the minimum effective dose while keeping e2 blood pressure and hematocrit from spiking.
Long esters like test e test c and deca have half lives in days not hours so their concentration is dose over clearance times accumulation. A graduated ramp up means smaller week to week concentration jumps and fewer sides while you dial in AI and BP management as I just mentioned.
With deca specifically tapering matters because nandrolones progestin activity lingers longer than test which is why many run test higher at the end or taper deca first. A step down avoids the classic libido crash and ED that show up when nandrolone outlasts test. Heard of "deca dick" right?
Tapering down on long esters smooths the fall in androgen load while serum is still clearing which reduces withdrawal symptoms mood swings and rebound e2. It also buys time for labs to guide PCT timing rather than crashing hard and guessing the start date. That would also apply for TRT, you want to know when to properly play TRT past the bridge phase. I have my clients do that all the time. @Mobster
Clinical TRT data show splitting and smoothing doses reduces peak to trough swings (think ED pins or EOD) and side effects and pyramiding is the same safety logic applied at the start and end of a blast. Less volatility equals fewer side effects and better adherence without sacrificing gains.
A practical template I've given my clients looks like this for a 12 week test e and deca run. Weeks 1-2 at 1/2 dose, weeks 3-8 at target dose ,weeks 9-10 at 2/3rds dose, weeks 11-12 at 1/3 dose then clear and start PCT when levels reach the right level +/- here, and that would apply for the bridge into self-TRT as well.
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I'll address 2 points and set you a challenge (it occurred to me after posting yesterday).
In no particular order:
You refer to TRT above ''That would also apply for TRT, you want to know when to properly play TRT past the bridge phase''. That's a no from me. It's not TRT as written. It's just on cycle or on TRT. There's no on cycle, bridging AND TRT. People all too often say TRT when they mean bridging and vice versa. Proper actual TRT vs staying on a low dose for years then coming off (usually to have a baby) is, as I've written before, asanine and cart before the horse etc. It's NOT TRT then is it?
I DO like that info (clinical TRT data) is available. That would be awesome. Post a thread on it (not the challenge lol)
The sacrificing gains issue is one I've covered before multiple times. I don't think @LevButlerov means ALL the gains, To be clear I'd argue it's impossible to keep ALL a cycles gains. However, no on needs to (IMO) taper off in order to mitigate losing any because, again, no one keeps them all. The No1 and 2 biggest mistakes people make is NOT related to tapering etc but both diet and training related. Heck, even (and I know Lev will agree here) poor PCTs.
My challenge relates to a statement of Lev's from yesterday. He said: ''Tapering down lets your body reestablish its own hormonal balance instead of crashing suddenly from a full stop, this is a real thing, crashing happens a ton'' Can he find me 2 or 3 examples on Evo where members have said this has happened to them? IF he does I'd wanna look at what else they did or didn't do.
Worse case is we learn more right?
Thanks to Lev for his replies so far
Can I also get Lev to start a 'do we need to taper or pyramid?' thread so as to keep this to @JackD42 s log
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Hey man that's fine that this debate is happening on my log as it now has me interested and I am one of those examples you are looking for also, I came off cold turkey when I did nationals in 2024, one of my ifbb guys told me to go cold turkey off everything for 5 weeks then go get a testosterone test so that I could get Pharma grade testosterone , long story short ; it worked! I got the trt at 200mg per week, I'll tell you the shitty part though going with out my cruise or any kind of pct I hit the couch literally the entire time and barely got up so yes it was terrible, now I just cruise on 175 mg of test cream or 1cc of test E accompanied with 2-4 IU of GH for pct or what you gents are calling it "bridging". That being said it wasn't even worth getting Pharma grade prescribed anyways the guy kept having me take blood tests and one day I took 1 dbol for a pre workout and it sent my test sky high and I got kicked off it, like my ifbb buddy and his ifbb wife say to me why try to get Pharma grade prescribed when you have to take an exact dose and constant blood work when you can get just as good or better nowadays on your own threw UG and not have to worry about whether your going to cycle or not.
I so agree with this was some 'nerding out' porn for me to read from two Goliaths!
I'm not sure if this makes any sense at the level you guys can debate but, and in terms of half lives, what I do is switch from the long ester (like deca to NPP for example) in the last 3 or so weeks before the and of cycle to let the long ester taper off while doing a lower dose of the faster ester before I jump off. Made sense to me that that was kind of a soft landing going from TrenE for example to then TrenA or MastE to MastP at the end.
Does this make sense or am I way off with this strategy. You'll see in my log I switched from Deca to NPP for the last few weeks and lowered the dose of NPP as the cycle ended.
Big cycle for a big rig brother
Do you find the higher doses of Nolva ED make you irritable? It makes into a Complainasaurus Rex
That's a sweet stack bro. Time to build some mass in the offseason
Ya I'm done filling my prescriptions. The UG stuff we get is literally just as good, maybe better. The stuff I get is easier to draw and push with slin pins and it's cheaper.
I think having the prescription is good for travel and thats about it.
You got kicked off for having T too high??? That's crazy. My doc would just laugh and ask me how I feel lol
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Pyramiding on long esters is correct because serum levels build over 4-5 half lives, I mentioned it in my last post too.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...alifier-2026-prep-journal.106937/post-1873252
Splitting and smoothing doses is proven in TRT for fewer peak to trough swings and that same pharmacokinetic logic applies to blasting so a gradual ramp and step down reduces volatility with less sides.
I think @Mobster there is no "sides" here to the argument, there is pure reality of the situation. While you guys are free to believe your side, there is logic of pure hormone science which was proven by countless TRT studies, it's really clear here tbh.
Thank you for writing this up @Mobster
IMO, Pyramiding with long esters makes sense because these drugs accumulate over 4-5 half lives and early high doses stack on residual levels to create avoidable peaks. Starting lower and building lets you find the minimum effective dose while keeping e2 blood pressure and hematocrit from spiking.
Long esters like test e test c and deca have half lives in days not hours so their concentration is dose over clearance times accumulation. A graduated ramp up means smaller week to week concentration jumps and fewer sides while you dial in AI and BP management as I just mentioned.
With deca specifically tapering matters because nandrolones progestin activity lingers longer than test which is why many run test higher at the end or taper deca first. A step down avoids the classic libido crash and ED that show up when nandrolone outlasts test. Heard of "deca dick" right?
Tapering down on long esters smooths the fall in androgen load while serum is still clearing which reduces withdrawal symptoms mood swings and rebound e2. It also buys time for labs to guide PCT timing rather than crashing hard and guessing the start date. That would also apply for TRT, you want to know when to properly play TRT past the bridge phase. I have my clients do that all the time. @Mobster
Clinical TRT data show splitting and smoothing doses reduces peak to trough swings (think ED pins or EOD) and side effects and pyramiding is the same safety logic applied at the start and end of a blast. Less volatility equals fewer side effects and better adherence without sacrificing gains.
A practical template I've given my clients looks like this for a 12 week test e and deca run. Weeks 1-2 at 1/2 dose, weeks 3-8 at target dose ,weeks 9-10 at 2/3rds dose, weeks 11-12 at 1/3 dose then clear and start PCT when levels reach the right level +/- here, and that would apply for the bridge into self-TRT as well.
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Yours is a good example of how someone can feel.
But...
It was done deliberately on the advice of an IFBB guy so as to deliberately lower your test and get 200mg pharma TRT. With NO PCT. Heck you didn't even, as Lev suggests, taper off
1. Mentioning it before doesn't make it right. I saw that you made the point about half lives. But note you refer to the building up. That will happen whether you pyramid or not - correct?
2. You've mentioned TRT before also. What about a cycle? TRT, as I clarified earlier, is for life and tends to be a set amount. It's not, once you find the right dose, something that is varied on the fly. MAYBE it needs adjusting a little over the years. But pyramided or tapered? No
3. I set you that challenge. I await examples (JackD42 gave an example which I've responded to).
Similar to Phil H. The op is real straight forward and the teflon mesh is better than what was there before. I'd get it done now so you're healed etc well ahead of the upcoming competition
That's what I figured just waiting on a surgeons call.
I took one friggin dbol.and was honest about it .
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I have big respect for you @Mobster and for @stevesmi but we completely see this topic differently.
Pyramiding long esters is justified by kinetics not preference since steady blood levels take ~4-5 half lives and early high dosing stacks on residuals, so ramping up minimizes peak overshoot while you dial AI, BP, and hematocrit just like TRT literature shows when splitting doses to flatten peaks (think e2 and sides).
also, pyramiding down on long esters smooths withdrawal while they are still clearing, example, it prevents nandrolone outlasting test, and lets you time PCT off labs rather than a hard stop shock, the same for cycle > bridge pyramid down > TRT.
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On that last part I literally just mentioned that to Stevesmi. What we've seen all too often is users of PEDs go on cycle. They go off and, quite naturally, don't feel as 'on' or, more simply put, supermanish when they come off. I'd argue that's normal. It doesn't have to be, as you replied above, 'high dosing stacks' but often is. That's almost another topic but arguably is WHY we tend not to recommend high doses. Again it's kind of obvious that if I, for example, take 200mg of Test C (as I do) for TRT and then went to 2000mg a week or, as we've also seen, 5000+mg a week (ie: 45x my usual amount) and then came off I'd crash like f**K. In a way that supports your argument. But do we encourage on Evo people to do that much? No. Even at 1200-2000mg a week total you'd still be hitting 6-10x naturally high levels.
I'd argue thus: it's this sense of well being 'on' a high amount that instead of tapering etc has led to the whole blasting and cruising protocols. Cos users simply cannot deal with being off and not feeling 'super' (even if only a little bit).
It feels slight contradictory to suggest ''Pyramiding long esters is justified by kinetics not preference since steady blood levels take ~4-5 half lives and early high dosing stacks on residuals, so ramping up minimizes peak overshoot while you dial AI, BP, and hematocrit just like TRT'' s I suggested earlier. I'll say why. Kinetics, as used here by Lev, is speed of the changes in the chemical input.
1) I suggested before that half life and build up happens whether you pyramid or not when using longer / slower esters. I asked if that was true. I'll answer it - it's a yes. Ditto tapering. It'll happen whether Lev or I agree or not. Are we managing effects (see Lev offering advice in logs re lowering of doses towards the end of a cycle in the few that put up blood tests) or how the user feels (all too often I think)
2) Any user with a few cycles under their belt should not need to tweak each and every cycle (esp if it's one they've done before). One reason is they can have done it before to find the sweet spot. Does that change? Maybe over years and as we age and condition changes but cycle to cycle? No. Plus we have all that user data. If we didn't we'd literally have to monitor and tweak EVERY cycle ever. No one would be able to offer cycle advice. Heck even the half life info would not be accurate. But it kinda is because of all the data gathered when the said PED was created. Maybe stacking confuses that? We all here DO encourage monitoring AI, BP and hemocrit (mostly by blood tests) but do we need to do this each and every time?
And (all due love and respect as always) Lev hasn't offered up a reply to my challenge. One issue, as an aside, and given I HAVE changed my mind (ironically on this very subject as I said on the podcasts on it) is that it can be difficult to shift a strongly held point of view.
In that show I referred to how Mick Hart (a good buddy of mine) was having his clients and in his Layman's Guide I, II and II, pyramid up and taper down. His first book was, I think, circa the mid 80's so 40 odd years ago (dated??). For years I even argued that I got good results doing so - so stuck with what worked. But he and others then did so NOT for half lives etc but for recovering from suppressed natural T levels. Only after did it occur that 'suppressed is suppressed' and only when the additional T had cleared and with a good PCT (back then not as good as now) did recovery properly start. In other words, taper or not, you still had to clean out. At best, as both stevesmi has said often and as Lev implies you get a 'softer landing'.
Arguably it kinda is preference over kinetics. Lev implies and I agree, that if we monitor E2 and T levels etc via blood levels and if we understand half lives and clearance times then following the numbers allows for that softer landing. But is that what people think about? No. It's how they FEEL and not liking that feeling is when it becomes preference. They CHOOSE to make it feel easier.
One final thought and again something I've made mention of on the shows. We, as humans and even males, are far more hormonal than we think. From morning glory caused by a jump in am T levels to exercise high from working out. I've also pointed out how it varies from hour to hour (heck that supports a little Lev's view). Waking up, mid morning, late afternoon and maybe just before sleep are peak T times (naturally and off cycle). Ditto suppression of T levels caused by stress, not having a GF, being ill and so on. That negates, as I think, micro-dosing TRT to cause a steady state. It makes ZERO difference to gains and or retaining muscle. It's not done, even with the data Lev says exists, for kinetic reasons and ONLY done cause there are no peaks and troughs - again only for how a user 'feels'.
To support Lev a little - can we tweak if need be to feel good? Of course. No need to feel shitty (even just a little) just cos. Heck, if I thought we needed to feel X or Y just cos I wouldn't be doing TRT. I've also argued that results should be the main reason for doing a stack or cycle. I've been a stuck in the mud ass when debating training but I know take the view that I MIGHT think someone is doing not enough or too much but if they wanna gain and are gaining it doesn't matter what I 'think' or my opinion is - they are getting results. Yes we can offer how to get better results but what they're doing is working!! If it isn't then it needs changing.
For the audience reading this pyramiding and ester discussion here's those podcasts:
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...yramiding-steroids-on-a-cycle-by-para-pharma/
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...-short-vs-long-steroid-cycles-by-euro-pharma/
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...yramiding-steroids-on-a-cycle-by-para-pharma/
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...-short-vs-long-steroid-cycles-by-euro-pharma/
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Nice size man, your quads are huge, what sort of training are you doing for legs?
I love hitting abs and cardio in a full session too, twice weekly.
I will keep following along you look really impressive.
Hey man I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to acknowledge my goals and aspirations , your a good person thank you. Feel free to follow along and ask any questions too! I think this next show I'm gonna have some decent size and conditioning with the plan I have in place.
When you talk to a surgeon make sure he knows you have plans to compete. He might do a more asthetic job it that's the case.
Stupid doctor. I tell my doc everything and we're good. Really depends on the doc I guess
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I think I said all I need to say @Mobster really it's scientifically akin to TRT microdosing when we talk about pyramiding.
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No because if I had of tapered off I would not have crashed my test like I did in order to get a script.
Lookn good bro. Excited to hear your story on the podcast. Should be a good one. If you record today at will be a little bit before we get to hear tj though.
@Mobster is staying up past his bedtime for you lol
No it's all good G I rushed to my other place to get on the iPad and different connection and it got cancelled so maybe next time
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good touchdown but how about training diet updates? all we see is touchdown pics @JackD42
would love to see your training food updates
Ah sorry to hear that bri. For sure it will come. You're gonna be a really interesting guest, so it's only a matter of time
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@JackD42 why you ignoring my questions?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...alifier-2026-prep-journal.106937/post-1880877
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I think you meant to say more massive bro. On anyone's scale you're already massive lol.
Glad to hear the backs doing better. More of a tweak then an injury from the sounds of it which is really good news. Back injuries tend to drag on forever which would be brutal for you and your push for that pro card. Just be mindful of the back and don't push it too too hard just yet.
Ya definitely I need to be mindful of everything staying stretched and flexible, watch my form start light with high reps until my body adjusts again, it kind of if sucks when that happens because I was just getting back into it and then wam throw my back out and it keeps me in that not going back state. But I'm feeling fresh now and plan to stay limber this go around gonna start things off with a light chest workout
Sounds like a good game plan bro. 2026 is the year. Toronto pro is gonna be the one! Still a ways out so being smart and thinking long term is definitely the way to go bro.Ya definitely I need to be mindful of everything staying stretched and flexible, watch my form start light with high reps until my body adjusts again, it kind of if sucks when that happens because I was just getting back into it and then wam throw my back out and it keeps me in that not going back state. But I'm feeling fresh now and plan to stay limber this go around gonna start things off with a light chest workout
I'm going to own Toronto pro this year
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Fukn ya bro!
Don't forget to include us and throw in some updates. Love following the progress and learning from real bodybuilders like you. It's great for weekend warriors like me to learn.
Then come Toronto we'll have a great log to look back on
Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
,bee pollen and red ginseng for focus. (PUR)
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
,bee pollen and red ginseng for focus. (PUR)Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
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Good update and that stack is heavy so keep test at 250mg and deca at 250mg locked while you run the dbol at 25mg to stay stable.Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
Diet with 3 meals and 2 shakes is fine but push protein toward 250g so the cycle actually translates into size. @JackD42
@JackD42 Great job man. This is a nice setup on this cycle. I'm actually surprised your dosages are that low, but it just proves you don't need crazy dosages to have great results.Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
wisdom tooth well that's crazy. I got mine removed a long time ago. What made you wait till this long to have them removed? @JackD42Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
hgh 4-5ius is a good one! @JackD42 i also like the stack. dbol, deca nad proviron mix well together!Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
Damn dude you're kinda old to be getting wisdom teeth removed. That sucks. I feel you cuz I'm recovering from some dental surgery too right now. The antibiotics fucked me up. Took 2 weeks off for the recovery and my lifts were wayyyy down.Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
Did they prescribe you amoxicillin too?
@JackD42 always best to get the wisdoms removed when you are younger. but hey atleast you got all 4 done in 1 shot. horrible experience for sureJust getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
bros a good trick with dentist is go to mexico. way cheaper there to get it done. how much it cost for 4 wisdom? @JackD42Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
F**k that. How do you feel now?Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
@JackD42 those wisdom teeth will mess ya up for a few days. Had mine done a couple years ago.Just getting back up and at it, had 4 wisdom teeth removed 72 hours ago, so that was fun. Anyways here to give you guys an update on me, headed for the gym this morning, to do a light chest workout and some cardio. This is what my stack looks like right now;
Growth Hormone - 4-5 iu am, 4-5 iu pm (PUR)
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg / week(PUR)
Primatropin Testosterone Cream - 25 mg ed rubbed on shoulders in am. (PUR)
Deca Durabolin - 250mg / week (ANL)
Dianabol - 25 mg ed (ANL)
Proviron - 20 mg ed (PUR)
Mycomind - Scooby snacks;
Nolvadex and arimidex as needed in off season. Regimented schedule in prep.(PUR & ANL)
eXcite Cialis - 25mg, quarter tab for pre workout and blood flow.
Diet has been consistent, basically 3 square family meals with 2 protein shakes. watch sugar intake.
Supplements are basic right now :
Whey protein
Creatine
Allmax vitastack
MRE
LIVER HD
Oh buddy I finally stopped spitting blood yesterday , 5 straight days of spitting blood definitely messes with the psych, but all good at least it's done and over; us Canadians just got an amazing dental plan full insurance so I'm taking advantage of it and getting my teeth completely redone and updated so I can have a nice big smile for T PRO 2026.
Yes brother I'm definitely feeling the amox hit. I'm getting awesome insurance right now so I'm getting my teeth done right up nice. My 6th visit to dentist on Tuesday coming up, had lots of work done, feels great though to have it done though. They extended the CCDP to adults 18 and over it used to be only over 65. It's the Canadian dental plan CCDP it's amazing that they extended it to the all Canadians. Smiling is a huge part of stage presentation so it will be great to show that confidence upcoming show with all nice new clean teeth.
Bro I'm happy to hear that. Yea a confident look is a big part of the stage presentation. I heard some judges talk about that with Andrew Jacked at this year's Olympia. They see that sort of stuff. Looks like the stars are aligning. 2026 is the year!Yes brother I'm definitely feeling the amox hit. I'm getting awesome insurance right now so I'm getting my teeth done right up nice. My 6th visit to dentist on Tuesday coming up, had lots of work done, feels great though to have it done though. They extended the CCDP to adults 18 and over it used to be only over 65. It's the Canadian dental plan CCDP it's amazing that they extended it to the all Canadians. Smiling is a huge part of stage presentation so it will be great to show that confidence upcoming show with all nice new clean teeth.
I'm getting an article in my local paper done about me thought I'd give you guys the rough copy to look at :
Yes I got into bodybuilding competitions at age 20/21 I stopped competing in 2005 because I made it to the National level in Ontario at that time and Nationals were held in Edmonton that year and unfortunately the expenses were too high for me to get out there to compete now Nationals are held in Toronto every year which I have had the honor to compete in twice since 2023 at the same Hotel and Conference center in Toronto I got back into it in 2019 when a friend from Delhi privately sponsored me I continue to train in between 2005 and 2020 during my 15th year of hiatus from bodybuilding I did some backpacking all over Canada and that kept my build intact I was always interested and bodybuilding was always in the back of my mind it's just it takes a lot of discipline and regiment and stability which I found once I got a bit older it feels great to be competing again I like to influence online as well so there's that part of it now too that's different than the old system, I get discipline, something to look forward to mental health and quality of life from bodybuilding it's a passion of mine for sure it's a hobby that has kind of took off and could be a potential career long-term it has changed a lot in the past years mainly because it used to run provincially now it's nationally governed and a bit easier to navigate the events are longer now and have lots of new divisions for example last year at Nationals in Toronto where I placed second as a master's lightweight there was 206 athletes or maybe 15 years ago there would have only been half that it's a bit easier to get to the top ifbb Pro level as well because they took out the three level tier system and now it's only two levels to get to that Pro qualifying level so that's made it easier to turn pro whereas 15 years ago there was only one pro card handed out each year one to the best overall male bodybuilder and one to the best overall female in the entire country, now I think there's almost 60 Pro cards compared to back then when it was only two so it's become easier but also more competitive I see a lot more athletes now 11 to 25 guys per class where back in the day it might have been 10 at the most in each division depending on what contest and level I have been an ifbb Pro Qualifier for 3 years in a row now, you have to keep placing in the top five to keep that status or you go back to local amateur level which I seem to dominate very easily having won first place in all three events that I've done locally since 2005 I have entered our local show and won first place all three times with the most recent win being last April of 2024 in Cambridge where I won the men's light heavyweight Masters division 40+, my other goals are to keep the sponsors that I have currently and I do that by continuing to place at a high enough level to keep my ifbb Pro qualifying status I'm one win away from that Pro card so it's very tempting to keep competing until I win it or I stop placing, 6 years of putting down the party scene and bringing back my dream of bodybuilding again has been everything for me I have completely changed my life and it's all thanks to bodybuilding and the discipline that comes with it I would just like to say to anyone suffering mentally or physically in any way the gym can be an amazing therapy outlet for you whether you compete or not it's worked for me now for going on 7 years and it keeps me out of trouble and focused. I currently train at Raise the bar Fitness and wellness in Delhi and have been there for 1 year it's an amazing facility with amazing people and amazing equipment, they are a huge motivating factor behind me and keeping me going, particularly Dave Matthews the owner of Boss Supplements and The gym Raise the bar but all the other staff as well, I honestly probably would of retired if it wasn't for Dave pushing and guiding me the way he has since I first joined there 2 years ago when they opened, hands down the best gym in Norfolk county. I am now in off season prep for June 2026 Toronto Pro be sure to see me live on YouTube and check out my journey on Facebook. The photos wear I am wearing a black mask is when I first came back in 2020 they actually made us wear a mask on stage and I forgot to add that was another reason I got back into lifting was because covid and all I could do was build my home gym and that's what I did to pass my time was bodybuild 24-7
YouTube: Chris Purvis
Facebook: Chris Purvis
Thank you ,
Chris Purvis
Yes I got into bodybuilding competitions at age 20/21 I stopped competing in 2005 because I made it to the National level in Ontario at that time and Nationals were held in Edmonton that year and unfortunately the expenses were too high for me to get out there to compete now Nationals are held in Toronto every year which I have had the honor to compete in twice since 2023 at the same Hotel and Conference center in Toronto I got back into it in 2019 when a friend from Delhi privately sponsored me I continue to train in between 2005 and 2020 during my 15th year of hiatus from bodybuilding I did some backpacking all over Canada and that kept my build intact I was always interested and bodybuilding was always in the back of my mind it's just it takes a lot of discipline and regiment and stability which I found once I got a bit older it feels great to be competing again I like to influence online as well so there's that part of it now too that's different than the old system, I get discipline, something to look forward to mental health and quality of life from bodybuilding it's a passion of mine for sure it's a hobby that has kind of took off and could be a potential career long-term it has changed a lot in the past years mainly because it used to run provincially now it's nationally governed and a bit easier to navigate the events are longer now and have lots of new divisions for example last year at Nationals in Toronto where I placed second as a master's lightweight there was 206 athletes or maybe 15 years ago there would have only been half that it's a bit easier to get to the top ifbb Pro level as well because they took out the three level tier system and now it's only two levels to get to that Pro qualifying level so that's made it easier to turn pro whereas 15 years ago there was only one pro card handed out each year one to the best overall male bodybuilder and one to the best overall female in the entire country, now I think there's almost 60 Pro cards compared to back then when it was only two so it's become easier but also more competitive I see a lot more athletes now 11 to 25 guys per class where back in the day it might have been 10 at the most in each division depending on what contest and level I have been an ifbb Pro Qualifier for 3 years in a row now, you have to keep placing in the top five to keep that status or you go back to local amateur level which I seem to dominate very easily having won first place in all three events that I've done locally since 2005 I have entered our local show and won first place all three times with the most recent win being last April of 2024 in Cambridge where I won the men's light heavyweight Masters division 40+, my other goals are to keep the sponsors that I have currently and I do that by continuing to place at a high enough level to keep my ifbb Pro qualifying status I'm one win away from that Pro card so it's very tempting to keep competing until I win it or I stop placing, 6 years of putting down the party scene and bringing back my dream of bodybuilding again has been everything for me I have completely changed my life and it's all thanks to bodybuilding and the discipline that comes with it I would just like to say to anyone suffering mentally or physically in any way the gym can be an amazing therapy outlet for you whether you compete or not it's worked for me now for going on 7 years and it keeps me out of trouble and focused. I currently train at Raise the bar Fitness and wellness in Delhi and have been there for 1 year it's an amazing facility with amazing people and amazing equipment, they are a huge motivating factor behind me and keeping me going, particularly Dave Matthews the owner of Boss Supplements and The gym Raise the bar but all the other staff as well, I honestly probably would of retired if it wasn't for Dave pushing and guiding me the way he has since I first joined there 2 years ago when they opened, hands down the best gym in Norfolk county. I am now in off season prep for June 2026 Toronto Pro be sure to see me live on YouTube and check out my journey on Facebook. The photos wear I am wearing a black mask is when I first came back in 2020 they actually made us wear a mask on stage and I forgot to add that was another reason I got back into lifting was because covid and all I could do was build my home gym and that's what I did to pass my time was bodybuild 24-7
YouTube: Chris Purvis
Facebook: Chris Purvis
Thank you ,
Chris Purvis
Yes brother I'm getting featured in my local paper again for the second time in my career it's gonna be great so I think putting off the podcast was meant for a reason , because now I have all this fresh stuff at the front of my brain from all the questions the reporter asked me, that I can share in the podcast i would like to give the podcast another shit if you guys will allow me honestly I had all kinds of things going on last week and was taking on too much but I'm back training full-time. Do you guys think I should share my rough copy newspaper article on here? If interested I'll post it.
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what newspaper is this?
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That delt vein in pic # 1 is intimidating.... send that to your competitors!
Yea bro share the rough copy. I'd love to give it a read. Thanks for sharing all that too. I can't believe you took so much time off the mission, but I'm glad you're back! This is the year.
I'm only a guest on the podcast like you bro haha. @stevesmi and @Mobster will be the guys to talk to there. I'm sure they'd love to try again cuz you're story is a great one and following your journey is very interesting. Plus your built like a house haha
FUCK YA!
@JackD42 Nice job man. I'm sure you'll do great at the Toronto Pro. Sounds like an exciting one. That's going to be coming up next year.
Aren't you comng out to support?
Thanks it was a rough copy and I added a few more details. Once the paper version is printed and edited I'll post it but I thought I would share it raw first
Thanks Mobster , I'm sorry about last week, I'm ready to do the podcast now and have an efficient Wi-Fi setup for connection.
Appreciate it
i haven't travelled anywhere in years. can't afford to miss work
the mac daddy is back! pumping it hardcore for sure. toronto pro is going to need to watch out @JackD42
Just smashing my back to pieces literally right now , what does my Evo fam think of my new look ; Nike glasses. Will post an update post workout. Cheers fam, don't be skipping the gym today! Gym first, life after, NO EXCUSES! if I can do it anyone can! Canadian Tiny ain't so tiny no more , he is now JackD, 200 lbs , 5"3.4
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Just finished up a great back smasher :
Started with pull-ups to target that lower
.
Then progressed to one arm dumbbell rows, keep in mind this is my first back day , back, since pulling it out ,all was well, continued into barbell rows, followed up by cable rows and then lastly cable pulldowns a total of 25 sets with a few drop sets in there, I tried elliptical again today but started cramping in my leg, so I'll give that a rest for today it's from being back on my bike
, just need to stretch it out and hydrate, still a bit sore from dental surgery. But all good
Stack : dbol 25-50 mg ed, proviron 20-40 mg ed, GH - 10 IU ed , am / pm , test cream 25 mg ed, cialis 12.5 mg pre workout, deca 250 mg per week, test E - 250 -500 per week. Mycomind focus mushrooms 1 cap evod
Supps: whey isolate , MRE, creatine, vitastack, lutein, liver HD
Cardio : 30 min Ed , 55 min on non workout days
Check out my new workout plate chain bling it's a 45 plate on a chain, I got another one too with a silver dumbbell hanging on a silver chain.
Started with pull-ups to target that lower
.Then progressed to one arm dumbbell rows, keep in mind this is my first back day , back, since pulling it out ,all was well, continued into barbell rows, followed up by cable rows and then lastly cable pulldowns a total of 25 sets with a few drop sets in there, I tried elliptical again today but started cramping in my leg, so I'll give that a rest for today it's from being back on my bike
, just need to stretch it out and hydrate, still a bit sore from dental surgery. But all goodStack : dbol 25-50 mg ed, proviron 20-40 mg ed, GH - 10 IU ed , am / pm , test cream 25 mg ed, cialis 12.5 mg pre workout, deca 250 mg per week, test E - 250 -500 per week. Mycomind focus mushrooms 1 cap evod
Supps: whey isolate , MRE, creatine, vitastack, lutein, liver HD
Cardio : 30 min Ed , 55 min on non workout days
Check out my new workout plate chain bling it's a 45 plate on a chain, I got another one too with a silver dumbbell hanging on a silver chain.
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bros if expensive i just go to mexico across border
@JackD42 I like to hit some competitions here and there but i stay local. i'm sure some guys on EVO will go support you. EVO family sticks together!
Seems like you got your motivation back. Let's see if you can kill it in Toronto. We all believe in you, my man. Keep it up. @JackD42
It's funny how you can go from scary lookn to super friendly lookn just with a pair of glasses lol. You're like Superman. 2 different people and all that changed was a pair of glassesJust finished up a great back smasher :
Started with pull-ups to target that lower
Then progressed to one arm dumbbell rows, keep in mind this is my first back day , back, since pulling it out ,all was well, continued into barbell rows, followed up by cable rows and then lastly cable pulldowns a total of 25 sets with a few drop sets in there, I tried elliptical again today but started cramping in my leg, so I'll give that a rest for today it's from being back on my bike
Stack : dbol 25-50 mg ed, proviron 20-40 mg ed, GH - 10 IU ed , am / pm , test cream 25 mg ed, cialis 12.5 mg pre workout, deca 250 mg per week, test E - 250 -500 per week. Mycomind focus mushrooms 1 cap evod
Supps: whey isolate , MRE, creatine, vitastack, lutein, liver HD
Cardio : 30 min Ed , 55 min on non workout days
Check out my new workout plate chain bling it's a 45 plate on a chain, I got another one too with a silver dumbbell hanging on a silver chain.
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Good day and you look good in the pic, glasses add the smart factorJust finished up a great back smasher :
Started with pull-ups to target that lower
Then progressed to one arm dumbbell rows, keep in mind this is my first back day , back, since pulling it out ,all was well, continued into barbell rows, followed up by cable rows and then lastly cable pulldowns a total of 25 sets with a few drop sets in there, I tried elliptical again today but started cramping in my leg, so I'll give that a rest for today it's from being back on my bike
Stack : dbol 25-50 mg ed, proviron 20-40 mg ed, GH - 10 IU ed , am / pm , test cream 25 mg ed, cialis 12.5 mg pre workout, deca 250 mg per week, test E - 250 -500 per week. Mycomind focus mushrooms 1 cap evod
Supps: whey isolate , MRE, creatine, vitastack, lutein, liver HD
Cardio : 30 min Ed , 55 min on non workout days
Check out my new workout plate chain bling it's a 45 plate on a chain, I got another one too with a silver dumbbell hanging on a silver chain.
@JackD42
I'm trying man, it's been hard getting back up from this one , discipline is really rearing it's head and I'm doing my best which I always seem to do when my mind is right . Focusing on better form more mind to muscle connection and zero jerk motions while lifting , stretching being more patient, staying humble and leaving my ego at the door , all to really act my age and prevent future injuries as I can be prone to them when I start throwing around 450 lbs. So now I'm building myself back up easily but my power is just as good as ever, I'm dealing with a crippling throbbing pain in my right toe I believe it's a pinched nerve from flat feet but I think possibly water retention from gear and GH has made the nerve more compressed in the foot I mean it gets so bad the pain that I start limping. But I'm actively looking after myself, doing regular bloodwork and EKGs and I'm gonna follow up on this toe on Sunday at the doctor's office, I have to see a surgeon on December 10th for a small hernia in my abdomen area above my belly button it's literally so small I barely feel it or see it, but I noticed it and already had that checked out and may or may not have to get a an operation in December , we will see, I've had 4 wisdom teeth ripped out of my head last week, and my teeth completely done up and whitened for Toronto Pro 2026. So when shit hits the fan it tends to do.it all at once , on top of this I'm raising a 12 year old child, 5 pets, two households and bodybuilding 24-7 , I barely get a chance to sit down but my routine works for me and that's what matters. My new gym motto is; "Gym 1st, LIFE later". -Chris P
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8 litres of zero sugar starburst water diet Pepsi, box of cinnabons, a deluxe meat Lovers loaded pizza, 22 boneless honey garlic chicken wings, and that's a wrap;
shot of deca,
shot of test, a dbol, a proviron, and 5 units of GH for dessert . I love off season.
shot of deca,
shot of test, a dbol, a proviron, and 5 units of GH for dessert . I love off season.
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@JackD42 yes sir!!! Kill it big fella
Thank you men all your guys support drives me. Thank you guys.
Damn bro you dirty bulkn or are these just cheat meals? Take it easy on your heart bro. Long term health 1st, then gym lol. That's the life motto bro.Post back workout today I had a loaded steak supreme and bacon sandwich with a large coffee.
I don't think his competition eats like this.
It is the offseason so who knows. I'd just be more concerned about long term health problems if this was a regular thing. Bodybuilding is already rough enough on the ticker...fast foods is adding more risk to our risky lifestyle choices
