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So you recognize you have some extra tissue there as well. Your pecs aren't supposed to hang like that. Could just be fat though, maybe not gyno. Your midsection looks really soft there too so maybe it's just fat
I'm LOL'ing... bro you crack me up so bad. I 'warned' him through mod tools so if you get him going again I'll laugh my ass off but I'll close my eyes and point at you while trying not to laugh.
It's so funny cuz he said he was done but he keeps going. Nothing this guy does makes any sense. He makes all these wild claims with no proof or reason, uses words incorrectly he doesn't understand, says he's not a rep but cares so deeply for this UGL, then says he's done and leaving but keeps posting. Maybe that growth guys gear fried his brain LOL. Like I said, he's not good advertising. Those guys see this they're probably like shut up...no please shut up...please stop...haha
@Enhancedguy Do you have proof of what you say? I see nothing but growth guys fans boys getting paid off by him to shill.
How about you bring growth guys here to talk for himself or is he scared?
It cracks me up because he even preceded one of his first ever posts with "I don’t know if it’s against the rules to post positive reviews of other labs on evo, I know CJM didn’t like that.", then when it's explained to him WHY we only promote the approved and trusted sources for safety here with all the shit that is out there he comes back firing on all cylinders throwing a tantrum when we say Growth Guys is not approved here? He also seems to know the results of every single Jano test every source has ever produced, especially Growth Guys.
Oh, and this is a ponzi scheme and I'm at the top making millions off all the approved labs we promote.
If I see him on my bell having replied again I'm gonna roll my eyes and be like, ok, this is over with bro.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to take a ride in my EVO ferrari paid for by BCGains and all other sauced up bros.
U noticed results in 2 months with hgh that is pretty impressive i always thought hgh was a long term type of compound to really get the true effects would be 6 month's into a year of use.I have been using their hgh for almost 2 months now
Never had it happen personally ive been utilizing mutiple sources on here with blood work indepth on every cycle way before i was a moderator, majority of people on here run logs with bloods sure it can happen anywhere its not common around here.
Hcg in combination with test will cause a estrogen spike plus its just pointless waste of money imo, no one wants estrogen to spike higher than it should be unless u tanked estrogen and you take it to bring levels back up i can understand, otherwise its just a waste of money.
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Imagine claiming you have all these high level degrees then getting called out and owned by a blue collar guy with common sense
Its rare people get banned here regardless of beliefs as long as you dont go off the deep end and say some absolutely crazy shit or threaten people harm.. its rare anyone gets banned as evo has always been an open platform for talking back and forth and openly, we all might agree or disagree but you wont get banned for that, evo isnt that type of place, certain exceptions exist like if u scam someone etc, this board doesn't really ban people like that, unless you are a complete idiot towards people constantly.
Reason is when these guys go to school all they learn is how to think like the loser who's teaching them. Rarely is someone who's at the top of their field in a classroom teaching. Instead you got some washout mid-tier "professional" programming you to think like them. University is a scam setup to take people's money and create the next generation of placid tax payers.Imagine claiming you have all these high level degrees then getting called out and owned by a blue collar guy with common sense
Ive never been paid by a lab in my life, if you got the inside track on how a lab can and will pay me money im all for it, i can use some extra cash for the holidays lol. I have had supported logs from sources on here i wont lie im a truthful person, its publicly available with alll my posts or logs that are sponsored, i earned those sponsorships they didn't just hand them out, i had to put in alot of my free time to get to that point of getting those opportunities. I never was looking at becoming a moderator i just always enjoyed helping people on the journeys they are on and mods noticed and asked if id like to be one so i did it, honestly it has given me a platform to help more people and do it more efficiently. I would be the first to post if a lab or source did me dirty as i run bloods all the time and know how these compounds feel and work. I dont pull punches id put it in the open.
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You keep dodging the real issue so I’m going to spell it out because your story collapses every time you open your mouth. @BCGains You are defending Growth Guys with recycled COA images, mismatched batch numbers and the same shady test formatting they have been known for, and anyone with experience sees those “new tests” for what they are. Posting JPGs does not magically fix a lab with a long history of questionable documentation, disappearing batches and zero transparency.
The moment you got challenged you switched from “just a buyer” to “helping Canadians” to “giving legit proof” which is the exact behavior of a rep or owner trying to hide it. If you are a rep then say it, if you are an owner then say it, but stop pretending you are neutral while pushing their marketing lines word for word. EVO family protects its brothers by telling them to stick to approved labs with verifiable Logs and real chain of custody, not labs that throw around images that look edited and recycled.
And let’s make this part very clear. You insult an EVO member about their looks again and you are suspended on the spot. No discussion, no 2nd chance. You already took a shot at @HarleyGuy and that was your last warning. Stop lying, stop shilling, stop dragging members into your drama and if you want to defend that lab then at least be honest about your connection to it.
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Bigger means nothing without the symmetry and definition matching the size, power and strength are respectable that i will give you, @BeMe shape and definition outclass what you have currently, im sure youve run alot more gear and compounds then he is or has and he still has a more complete physique, i look like shit but atleast i admit im not anywhere near my peak currently lol
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This is typical of reps and owners of brand, they come and fight trying to prove a point clearly showing their cards. @BCGains and others here are clearly involved with growth guys thats why they are so hard up about it. @vanlife_gymbum
which isn't even that bad if they were honest, but they aren't, that's the problem!
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I already warned @BCGains about commenting on EVO brothers logs and looks negatively @Noah Wixx , ignore him
He is bigger than 175 but thats besides the point, why not post a current photo why use one from a year ago ? I can do 315 as well what is the point of that ?
I can Arnold row over 300lbs for reps no issues is this cock contest or something ? I can leg press over 1000lbs for reps no problem what does it all really mean with adding value here ?
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The only competition we have, is ourselves. To better day by day, it's not about being better than others on the forum. Unless you on stage being Judged.
Everyone on the forum, is at a different level in the physique some just starting others have achieved the goal physique.
EVO family is all about supporting each other, not putting others down or belittling them.
That's why EVO is such a great platform other the others.
Everyone on the forum, is at a different level in the physique some just starting others have achieved the goal physique.
EVO family is all about supporting each other, not putting others down or belittling them.
That's why EVO is such a great platform other the others.
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You know by coincidence a dozen guy who use growth guys, where are they? how about you bring them here to discuss it @Enhancedguy
Look I know you from your log, which you dropped off
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bolan-and-anavar-cycle-log.99233/post-1596920
what ever happened to your log? after those bloods you went MIA
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Good point i couldn't let my Indian brother get disrespected like that, we both share a passion for Indian xmas music, so i had to have his back.
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We have EVO judgement zone rules and body positivity so I hope this doesn't force us to suspend them.
Hopefully not, time will tell
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Let’s get it straight bro, you started shit talking first but your little crew has your back and warns me for firing back lmao. Sorry not sorry.
It’s you who is actually dodging, you’ve provided no actual substance or proof of your “fake gear” “poison vials” claims and multiple members called you out and you continued to discredit everyone else.
Secondly, you and Harley gave me warnings when @BeMe started shit talking my physique first, as you can see the above quote. But he gets a pass right? Make it make sense
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You cant click on your profile photo ? When you do it should say edit on the profile photo and let u change it
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Nope, does not give me this option. Takes me to a URL with my photo in full size only.
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You've been dodging claims many times, why are you promoting gear that poisons guys, can you tell me this? what is your financial incentive here? obviously you rep or own growth guys just come out with it @BCGains
Who was talking shit first? Who was making claims about payoffs and lies to bury a UGL needlessly...what's with people these days. Everyone wants to play the victim.
Also I never spoke about your appearance once until you brought up the personal appearance subject. Seems you can't speak or read correctly. This is exactly why I said you're bad advertising for Growth Guys lol.
So you've gone from raging mad man to whiney baby in 24hrs. Maybe you should get that gear tested cuz you're emotions are all over the place. I'm sure someone as wise as you is running proper dosages so the gear has to be the problem haha
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YOU were talking shit first bud, you made the comment about appearance before I had to make sure you remember what weight class you are in.
Nobody is advertising growth guys, we simply said it’s a legit source based on experience and actually, there’s multiple threads including this one where members spoke out telling you that your claims of fake gear against growth guys is bullshit yet you choose to die on that hill. Thats fine with me bro, buy your stuff from whoever you want but don’t sit here calling us scammers or reps for giving input into this forum that is supposed to be a community for information and sources. Yall made yourself look like shit and anyone that spends time reading through these will certainly know that.
ESPECIALLY the Canadians.
Side note, your last comment makes absolutely no sense, so I’m raging because the gear is good but I should get it tested because it’s not good?
Lmao…. You guys are hilarious bro I wish I knew you in person so I can meet you and see if you are actually this dense in person.
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You keep backtracking because you got caught and now you’re trying to rewrite your own posts like nobody can scroll up. @BCGains You weren’t “giving input,” you were promoting Growth Guys non stop, defending them harder than their own website does and taking shots at members and mods just to protect a lab that has a long shady history. Nobody does that for free. If you are repping for them just say it, at least that would be honest instead of this weird act where you pretend you’re neutral while pushing their narrative word for word.
And stop lying about who started what. You threw the first shot about appearance, you insulted EVO brothers here because you had nothing left to argue with after getting questioned about the COAs. That behavior alone says everything about your agenda. EVO is a family and community, not a place for you to attack members and mods because someone questioned your favorite lab. You are the one who made yourself look bad here, not us.
Your whole argument now is a mess anyway. One minute you say they are legit, the next you say nobody is promoting them, then you attack our brothers personally and finish by saying you want to meet just to insult them again. That tells everyone exactly what you are. Stop playing dumb. If you rep for them just own it.
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BCGains tell the owner of GrowthGuys sitting beside you to come on here and start a probationary period as a Canadian vendor. We are the largest bodybuilding forum in the world with the most reputable and trusted sources in the world including the biggest PED's podcast in the world and the standard here to get approved is way out of the league of GrowthGuys. Tell your GrowthGuys CEO buddy to prove us wrong and let him come on here and apply to be a probationary vendor and go through our standards.
One dude coming on here (YOU!) to push a source using only his words with it being a source that has a shady background and sketchy Jano's does not make you right. Bloodwork, unaltered Jano tests, and transparency from a GG Rep or the Owner is what will prove us wrong, not your tantrums or back and forth arguing while the owner sits beside you telling you to smarten up. I go upstairs I'm doing this with my 12 year old step daughter then I come back down and find more of you on here doing the same LOL.
Who's the we you're referring too? You're speaking as if you're speaking on behalf of someone else. Like maybe Growth Guys?
Maybe what you're taking isn't what you think it is and it's leading to unintended results....do I really need to spell it out for you LOL. Like why am I getting gyno from my mast?!?!
Speaking of dense...
Your a goof who's literally a goof too LOL.
Haha I caught that too!
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We as in every other person who has explained that they have used this source and it’s legit. You are too dense to even open your eyes and see the other members who have confirmed it’s legit.
It’s all good bro you are the goof here actually. If you pushing your sponsors isn’t paying you why the fuck do you discredit reliable vendors. What gain do you have from this?
Exactly. Eat a bag of dicks pipsqueek
Again you just keep proving your lack of intelligence LOL. Eat a bag of dicks? What are you a teen girl on Instagram. That high e2 is migrating from your chest to your brain sweetheart haha.
I've already explained this a million times but you're literally just to dumb to understand.
1. I personally never said shit about Growth guys. If anyone asks I say stick to approved sources.
2. We promote approved sources because we can vouch for their safety and efficacy. It's a pretty simple concept.
3. The we you're referring too is you and 1 guy talking about their reta, and another guy who hasn't said much. Anyone can relabel Chinese peptides...doesn't prove anything.
4. There are more than 3 people here saying their gear is bunk. So you're out numbered.
You keep talking but no one cares about your opinion. Like I said, who's gonna take advice from someone who can't read or make a single point.
Didn't you say you were done yesterday...why do you keep coming back? Go to your Growth Guys approved forum.
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Alright then straighten up your bottom boy lev all he does is talk shit.
What 3 people? Care to post it? Lmao there’s multiple on this thread, there’s also a whole nother thread you posted on where members were telling you all that they are legit but you continued being goofs.
Nah bro I’m not done I get a fucking kick out of this, it’s like Christmas morning everytime I open the inbox
Haha dude your life is so sad if this is Christmas for you. Explains a lot actually...I bet christmas is probably pretty rough in the trailer park lol
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Ask your mom she comes every year
Ziiinnnggg ouch. Not my mom
LMAO!!! You just went from teenage girl to school yard boy in 2 posts. Classic. You just keep furthering my point from earlier. Bad rep
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Classic like a child, your behavior just shows you're the type of person who represents a scammy brand like growth guys @BCGains
Everyone read, when he had no comeback, he insulted a family member, mom! sad sad day!
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You keep trying to flip this into jokes because you have no argument left @BCGains , but the only clown act here is you pretending this is some big wave of support when it’s literally you and your 1 alter of yours running in circles. Every time someone calls out Growth Guys you jump in screaming like someone insulted your family, which is exactly how reps and owners behave when their scam gets exposed, not normal members. If you’re the bottom boy for that lab or the owner hiding behind a burner, just say it, because everybody reading this can see how hard you’re sucking up to them.
And stop lying about “multiple people” backing you, you keep repeating it but nobody sees it because it isn’t real. Anyone scrolling the thread sees 2 voices crying for Growth Guys and both of them collapse the moment testing or logs get mentioned because that lab has a history of scamming longer than your excuses. You’re not here for information, you’re not here for community, you’re here to defend a scam and throw insults like a child when you get cornered.
You’re not kicking back enjoying anything.
You’re exposed, you’re angry, and you’re lashing out because the story you built fell apart.
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Imagine that. Us, wanting to support the sponsors that allow the forum you're posting your opinion to be seen... well of course we do. Yeah imagine that. Just like any other similar forum. The kind needing IT support, with high bandwidth use, optimized for SEO and more. All needing money. Sure
That some of us have even used and tested (members have paid for tests out of their own pockets) and use those products...
Vs a company we never heard of, never tried, never tested and who don't support the forum.
I'll get to your other posts in a moment. But consider this - that company you DO support, once tried and properly tested MIGHT end up approved and even be a brand which supports this forum. How does it look for them when they come here and see some of your replies? Hmmm
100%
I've said on a bunch of shows when you see sources recommended EVERYWHERE you KNOW they are GTG.
Now I wanna join in. Fly over, bring scales, I'm gonna win lol
Just to beat a dead horse … yes we do avoid non approved sources like the black plague, and rightfully so.
Well now I'm annoyed. All I have is the Evo Humvee. Plus I can't driveIt cracks me up because he even preceded one of his first ever posts with "I don’t know if it’s against the rules to post positive reviews of other labs on evo, I know CJM didn’t like that.", then when it's explained to him WHY we only promote the approved and trusted sources for safety here with all the shit that is out there he comes back firing on all cylinders throwing a tantrum when we say Growth Guys is not approved here? He also seems to know the results of every single Jano test every source has ever produced, especially Growth Guys.
Oh, and this is a ponzi scheme and I'm at the top making millions off all the approved labs we promote.
If I see him on my bell having replied again I'm gonna roll my eyes and be like, ok, this is over with bro.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to take a ride in my EVO ferrari paid for by BCGains and all other sauced up bros.
Admin can do it if need be. Or just post it in the thread.
Nah nah man you’re slipping just get more people to buy from ONLY our approved sources and you’ll move up the ponzi ladder … the Ferrari comes when you get your 69th order off Umbrella credited to you. And keep pumping out those fake underdosed Jano tests from other labs from your laser printer it’s good for indirect dividends, then you get the floor mats for the Ferrari.
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you are too old to even understand how to verify labs on the janoshik website. I’m surprised they still let the elderly drive let alone a Ferrari.
Insulting the age of our members in a negative tone is against TOS. Whether you meant me or @Mobster doesn’t matter. You’re re-warned and are walking on thin ice. @LevButlerov
You haven’t yet served a purpose here for Evo in what the spirit of Evo is and have made no effort to have these UGL’s come on here and ask for an approval process so right now you’re just one member spewing insults to others and a negative environment while making no scientific sense either.
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Shiver me timbers thin ice
I have offered a purpose, my purpose is to expose you guys for giving fake reviews on products you have never used.
I’m showing Canadians on this board that there are sources that are trustworthy aside from your approved list.
Many of them clearly agree with me based on the DMS, maybe they aren’t as petty as me to keep going but I’m having fun
I’ll post a review thread for Teragon labs soon too
Boy oh boy I must be a rep for everyone!
He doesn't get paid, as far as the way it typically works evo is big into protecting members and making sure the sources they use are g2g as you have to go through a complete process here just to even get into a probationary status as a new vendor on evo.
Everything is tracked, watched, looked into anf vetted by standard and practice, it isn't you just pay someone money and you het put into trusted source status.
On evo you have to become trusted over time, if you scam a person or a pattern of bad bunk gear happens you get a chance to explain yourself and make it right by the members, if your story doesnt track and the members not made whole.. you get the ban hammer.
We take things strict and seriously with sources, weve banned plenty who didn't do right by people.
Even the OZ side of evo we all worked together to streamline the approved sources and get them in a great spot, many people work hard here on all sides to make this a great and trustworthy place to belong.
Typically a source is required to send a vial of a compound someone will test it and run it and do bloods just a few things we do, it goes much deeper than that i will keep it at that for now.
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WOW HAVE I MISSED A SHT LOAD OF POSTS! This thread has gotten wild.
CAN ANYONE PLEASE POST REAL PROOF of growth guys scamming. NO? I’ve yet to see any mods or any members posting any proof pictures posts anything that says he was scamming? Can anyone post real real lab tests from this forum with real lab results showing what he’s selling is fake? No not one member on this entire forum has sent anything to get tested to prove it’s scamming and poison?
Ok so can we all just stop fighting please. I honestly don’t care what anyone thinks. We are a community that’s allowed to discuss and debate but when debates from one side aren’t posting anything to prove what your saying is true turns INTO slander/ defamation as your literally criticizing someone reputation with nothing backing your claims.
So please for the love of god delete this thread everyone move the fuck on. You’re all acting like children and I get it I was apart of it at one point but let’s let it go. Unless the mods any member on this forum can post anything proving what your saying lets nicely play in the sand box with the rest of the kids
CAN ANYONE PLEASE POST REAL PROOF of growth guys scamming. NO? I’ve yet to see any mods or any members posting any proof pictures posts anything that says he was scamming? Can anyone post real real lab tests from this forum with real lab results showing what he’s selling is fake? No not one member on this entire forum has sent anything to get tested to prove it’s scamming and poison?
Ok so can we all just stop fighting please. I honestly don’t care what anyone thinks. We are a community that’s allowed to discuss and debate but when debates from one side aren’t posting anything to prove what your saying is true turns INTO slander/ defamation as your literally criticizing someone reputation with nothing backing your claims.
So please for the love of god delete this thread everyone move the fuck on. You’re all acting like children and I get it I was apart of it at one point but let’s let it go. Unless the mods any member on this forum can post anything proving what your saying lets nicely play in the sand box with the rest of the kids
You don't get it. To be an approved source here it's well known that our vetting process is extensive and strict. First probationary, then a series of testing and other strict guidelines and they are monitored; this ensures anyone we recommend is 100% legit and it's been proven. Growth Guys is more than welcome to come on here and enter this process to become an approved and trusted source.
You know why they don't? Most UGL's don't bother doing this because they have millions of people looking for the best prices and the easiest websites to order off of and that take credit card. I've been doing this 31 years now and unless a source has gone through what I know the EVO process is I simply ASSUME they are bunk, scammers, and shit. I take NO ONE's word for it, ever, especially inflammatory members who act like reps who think typing words on a screen makes the UGL legitimate.
The absence of being able to point your finger at a lab having never scammed anyone does NOT make the UGL all of sudden an approved trusted source to EVO's standards.
If you know of any other legit Canadian sources or otherwise, go get them and bring them here, (hint: they won't even try).
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No I do get it and I understand what you’re saying. But they have been vetted have gone through approval processes testing done on other major Canadian forums, the same forums that fusion and syn are apart of. Just because they’re not here doesn’t mean they’re not legit. Regardless I’m not here to fight with anyone I’ll try and get him to come here.
But not here. That's basically it, end of the day. Not here yet. So until it's approved here I assume they're all shitbag scammers and that assumption may be shortsighted because we both know you're correct and there may be some legit other UGL's out there but it keeps me safe in what I inject in my body and it places my trust (which is almost impossible to gain) where it should be which is with EVO.
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Ok good stuff then we agree about something! Glad to see it. I’m going to move on now tho. Everyone else stop fighting
The UGL's come to EVO, we don't go to them. We don't need to go begging to them for their product then go to the expense of testing it just to say pretty please now come be a source on here because your one real re-labeled vial of Napsgear now labeled as your own then tested perfectly. Everything under the sun has been attempted by anyone looking to make a quick buck and we don't go looking for the real ones, they can come to us.
And the last thing we'd do is delete this thread because it exposes the lengths individuals will go to try and poke holes in our high standards to become an approved source. Words on a computer screen from a random member who joined days ago means nothing.
If you wanna go off this thread I get it but I can do this all day with people who say "CAN ANYONE PLEASE POST REAL PROOF of growth guys scamming. NO? I’ve yet to see any mods or any members posting any proof pictures posts anything that says he was scamming? Can anyone post real real lab tests from this forum with real lab results showing what he’s selling is fake? No not one member on this entire forum has sent anything to get tested to prove it’s scamming and poison?"
As if it's our responsibility somehow to go out and find out who the scammers are because a few guys come on here and say no no they're not I swear I have lots of buddies who say it's legit. Give me a break. I can call anyone a scammer I want and if you're not approved on here, I assume you're a scam bunk bathtub canola oil making UGL. End of story.
Love this new @Bigswaz
Wasn't that long ago I was in your shoes lol. Is this cutting swaz vs bulking swaz back then haha
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I noticed @BCGains didnt respond to this obviously we know why, he's been exposed!
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Well to be fair when he asked you to post any proof you had for your slandering statements you didn’t. So why should he. Sorry I didn’t want to comment but the 14 year old school girl who adores drama just couldn’t resist
I love you @LevButlerov dont take what I say to seriously
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Growth guys are scammers at least on the selective level and anyone still shilling for them at this point looks shady by association. @Bigswaz
You and I already talked and hashed this out before, but @BCGains came in here clearly repping or owning the Growth Guys brand, throwing wild accusations at mods and members just to protect that label and that is not how a neutral customer behaves.
“Approved” on some other forum means nothing to me, there are scam heavy boards everywhere handing out “approved source” badges like candy to whoever pays or plays along. Only EVO family is the real deal because we do not answer to sponsors, we answer to EVO brothers and logs, REAL LOGS, and if a lab looks dirty or selective shady, we say it and let people decide for themselves.
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You just had to get into the drama didnt you lolWell to be fair when he asked you to post any proof you had for your slandering statements you didn’t. So why should he. Sorry I didn’t want to comment but the 14 year old school girl who adores drama just couldn’t resist
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The bulk is just around the corner be “careful”
I get back into mediator mode and be ready lolThe bulk is just around the corner be “careful”
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I feel we are going to drama this up again lolThe bulk is just around the corner be “careful”
the bulk? whats your bulk plan? @Bigswaz
can you post in log?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...en-e-mast-e-npp-summer-bulk-cycle-log.104630/
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Right now I’m just focused on finishing this last 16 days of my cut. Doing 2 a day cardio sessions. Am fasted 45 mins and after my afternoon lift for 45 mins on the stair master. Energy levels slowly depleting I’ll post my bulk plans closer to the end if this cut as in dialed in and don’t want to get ahead of mysekfI feel we are going to drama this up again lol
the bulk? whats your bulk plan? @Bigswaz
can you post in log?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...en-e-mast-e-npp-summer-bulk-cycle-log.104630/
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Which you just know the cats will take over. I'll have NOTHING!! F**k my life.
They do let us be mods though lol
Throw this in as a log update like @LevButlerov mentioned. Even just the above is an update. 2 ED cardio is hard core bro you're on a mission, well done!
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@Bigswaz has a good bulk update up @HarleyGuy
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...npp-summer-bulk-cycle-log.104630/post-1893245
I am on week 2 of Reta from Growthguys and Its 100% legit. I did 1-3mg from the approved source on this forum with minimal to no results. I am on week 2 of 4mg of Reta from Growthguys and my appetite is completely destroyed. I am finally feeling the effects of the medicine
I will drop to 3mg next week. It's almost too much to handle. Not sure if its the dosage or the source but the point is Growthguys is legit
I will drop to 3mg next week. It's almost too much to handle. Not sure if its the dosage or the source but the point is Growthguys is legit
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I’m surprised you can handle such a high dose tbh, I started with 1mg and couldn’t even look at food. I’ve now worked my way up to 2.5mg seems like the sweet spot for me.
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I’m at 6mg myself a week right now. But been under 10% bf doesn’t matter that you take at this rate your body is in survival mode body is always hungry. Especially when im burning 5200 calories a day and only eating 2700 lol
I went up to 3mg of Reta from NordicFusion with minimal to zero effects so I thought I may need high dose. Maybe it was just bad Reta. I will drop the dose next week. I think if I continue like this I will underweight in couple of weeks, I can barely eat anything
I actually posted about the effects couple of weeks ago because I wasn't feeling anything
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/posts/1873947/
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When I see 10mg reta priced at anything above $100 cad when other suppliers are giving 20mg for 150 or 30mg for 185… lol good choice bro
Yes on EVO here we always buy the cheapest possible gear/peptides from unapproved sources. Keep the comments coming @BCGains it will be a fruitless effort but is funny to watch. When it comes to gear I buy approved source brands not the yellow "no name" brand from the dollar store LOL.
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I use the same stuff works amazing. All my peptides come from GGC well most of them. All have done when they’re supposed to do. But we have already come to agreement. I I’d like the way you respond I have a hell of a time here. Wish you lived in Sask I’d love to lift with you @HarleyGuy
I've heard good things about GGC but just weird that they advertise on instagram and facebook lol. Don't seem smart to me.
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I think the laws in Canada for peptides has a bit of a grey area, I notice a lot of them advertise on IG/FB lately.
Yeah I know and I agree, but I think it's just brings heat to everyone you know. Idk maybe but dont seem wise putting peptides in the faces of kids and all.
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Yes I agree with this, especially with the focus on peptides lately on social media… lots of impressionable kids willing to try anything these days.
on SST forum a lot of members complained about this and how it could be harmful for the kids and possibly the business.
But ultimately we have no say how they run their business. It’s one of those, it is what it is situation's.
Side note, on my Facebook lately I’m getting adds for Coke and Molly lmao
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How’s that working for you? My dollar store gear is pretty fire
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Growth guys rep, google images, dollar store gear next it’s “bc gains is an AI system he’s not even real and he’s here to scam”Hey that looks like a picture taken off google images
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I posted this already going to repost again.
You are the one that owns and reps for Growth Guys and everyone reading your posts can see it @BCGains so stop pretending you’re some neutral lifter with “friends at the gym.” Every single time their name gets mentioned you jump in instantly, defend them harder than they defend themselves, and push the same recycled talking points they use on every scam forum that will list them for a payout. That is not how a normal customer behaves, that is how a rep or owner behaves when their scam brand gets exposed.
Your argument is garbage and you know it.
“Other gyms use it” means nothing.
“Friends like it” means nothing.
“Approved somewhere else” means nothing.
You’re deflecting because you have no proof, just the same empty lines a source rep uses when backed into a corner.
You keep screaming that EVO family “flames every non approved source” but the truth is simple: EVO family calls out shady labs with shady tests, shady COAs, and shady reps who show up exactly like you, lying, attacking members, and pushing a brand with zero transparency. No logs and no community support. You being here defending them 24 hours a day is the only real proof anyone needs.
You’re not exposing us.
You exposed yourself.
Just come out with it already.
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no question you look good and thick
@BCGains respect but just come out and say you rep for growth guys
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how do you know it's retatrutide not semaglutide? @Hyperwave
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@Fusion Canada could you please post your Reta results here for me. I know you’re an approved source but I wanna make sure you have test results on hand. Just wanna know what your holding is indeed Reta and not something else.
@LevButlerov this is to make sure what’s going into my body is indeed what they’re selling
@LevButlerov this is to make sure what’s going into my body is indeed what they’re selling
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he has actual loggers using it and reporting on it @Bigswaz
I think you're just coming out now an lashing out, stick to the growth guys convo dont go offtopic here.
If you search the Nordic fusion log you'll see it bro. He posted some Jano results for their reta probably 2 or 3 months ago. Don't quote me on that tho cuz my ability to track time is fukn awful. Days are just a blur when you're old and busy
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Logs are logs I want real lab tests, and it isn’t off topic as you say approved sources are approved for legit gear.
When you say other sources are providing shady test results I’d like top sources here provide real lab results of their products. Logs from users don’t prove lab testing results of their actual products. So this is in topic
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Couldn’t find anything about that, I do remember him posting about anavar as I was apart of the conversation. Not trying to stir sht up but I feel approved sources should have lab tests on hand to provide to us. If not then they also could be selling whatever they want in a bottle
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Lab tests are a 1 off snapshot and people keep pretending they are the holy grail when they tell you almost nothing about what a lab is really doing long term. @Bigswaz Any half decent scammer can cherry pick 1 clean vial send it off once slap the PDF everywhere and underdose or swap formulas the next 20 batches, and your “real lab test” is still floating around the forums making them look legit while guys are pinning garbage.
Logs are the only real proof because you see patterns over time across different users compounds and doses, with progress pics strength changes side effects and bloodwork all lining up or not. When 10 guys are logging the same source and you see consistent results on test EQ orals and peptides with matching labs from different countries over months that tells you infinitely more than one Janoshik style screenshot on a single vial that could be from any batch or any era.
You keep saying “logs are logs I want real lab tests” but you have it backwards. A single lab sheet without context is just marketing unless it is backed by a wall of logs, repeat testing on random vials actually pulled from orders and bloodwork that reflects what is on the label, and that only comes from a community like the EVO family where people put in the work and document everything. If you have to choose 1 thing, logs will always beat a 1 time lab PDF because logs are where underdosing, inconsistent batches and fake COAs actually get exposed.
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A lab test will tell me what’s in the vial. Again you can blood work but it won’t say your Reta or ozempic the purity ect.
I’m logging but apparently my Reta is fake in my log but real in others. So I just want to know what’s in the vial they’re selling.
It’s my body and like you said before I shouldn’t put just anything in it without proof. Well a lab test FROM YOUR APOROVED SOURCE SHOULD BE LEGIT.
