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Is PCT always needed?

TylerDurden

TylerDurden

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Sup bro's,
I should be starting my pct today, but was wondering if I really need it. Since coming off (16 days ago), i have not experienced any sexual issues (still raging woods throughout the day), intensity in the gym is still there, strength is still there and size is still there, my moods have been great no anxiety or depression just feeling good about being off and what not. I have clomid and nova ready but if I don't need them at this point i'd rather continue recovering on my own. Is this normal or should I start PCT as planned?
 
If your coming off then I would do the PCT and see how things go. This is when a product like HCGenerate is going to really help you out. I can't remember how old you are but just keep an eye on things and listen to your body.
 
Your Still feeling Good, Probably because your Hormone Levels are still a Bit Elevated.
Trust me, start that PCT, when It's time to, don't Wait.............................. JP
 
TylerDurden said:
Sup bro's,
I should be starting my pct today, but was wondering if I really need it. Since coming off (16 days ago), i have not experienced any sexual issues (still raging woods throughout the day), intensity in the gym is still there, strength is still there and size is still there, my moods have been great no anxiety or depression just feeling good about being off and what not. I have clomid and nova ready but if I don't need them at this point i'd rather continue recovering on my own. Is this normal or should I start PCT as planned?
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16 days is not long enough. long esters take a month to clear your system. give it 2-3 more weeks with no pct and watch what happens.
 
start taking a t boosting supp now and start serm's in another 7-8 days.

your going to hit a wall sooner or later, your still riding those long esters......trust me, you will drop off sexual wise if you dont act soon.
 
Saxon369 said:
Hey bro. Definitely start pct. you will most certainly crash soon. Trust me
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Yup!!! Wait til week 3 or 4 and you'll see what we mean. You feel it for sure. Your AAS is still in your system at a decent level so you're still getting AAS effects. You'll be glad you have that clomid soon bro.


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TylerDurden said:
What's a good test booster I can buy at a local please like gnc etc?


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D-aspartic acid at 3G a day + L-carnitine L-tartrate + HCGenerate maybe or premium powders "test infusion" is best bang for your buck IMO. But if you have to stick with GNC then do the DAA and LCLT if they have it.


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any PCT product from GNC ain't worth a damn

you need to run a full pct, and you need to have had it on hand BEFORE you started steroids. otherwise you might as well just stay on forever cause your gains are going to be gone.

Test stack is the best supplement to run for pct, that's what it was designed for and its 12 supps in 1 bottle http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/teststackrx/just-recieved-email-i-d-do-fast-4594.html

yeah its expensive but you get what you pay for. and if you don't recover its got a 110% money back guarantee.. try that at GNC and they will laugh at you
 
stevesmi said:
any PCT product from GNC ain't worth a damn

you need to run a full pct, and you need to have had it on hand BEFORE you started steroids. otherwise you might as well just stay on forever cause your gains are going to be gone.

Test stack is the best supplement to run for pct, that's what it was designed for and its 12 supps in 1 bottle http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/teststackrx/just-recieved-email-i-d-do-fast-4594.html

yeah its expensive but you get what you pay for. and if you don't recover its got a 110% money back guarantee.. try that at GNC and they will laugh at you
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No shit? Guarantee?? Badass!!


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some people recover better without pct then others.But I dont think anyone will recover as well without pct as with(although i have heard people claim so)
 
hurricane said:
some people recover better without pct then others.But I dont think anyone will recover as well without pct as with(although i have heard people claim so)
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But I wonder how many kept their gains too. Probably none.


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Been researching & trying to learn everything I can about cycles for 2 months & if there is one consistent advice ive noticed its that PCT is an absolute must.
 
Zonecount said:
Been researching & trying to learn everything I can about cycles for 2 months & if there is one consistent advice ive noticed its that PCT is an absolute must.
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I've been taught here on Evo that you never start a cycle without your PCT.The" what if "scares the shit out of me.Why take the risk on jacking yourself up for life.
 
i can't even believe this question is being asked... PCT is literally the most important part of your cycle... i don't care how you "feel" right now... just wait... if you don't run a full and proper pct then you will learn the hard way... there will be no gains, no health and longevity, etc... nothing is more important than your health and recovery...

read this...

http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/


PCT


clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com

aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com

n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day www.sarms1.com

gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com




USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…
 
dylangemelli said:
i can't even believe this question is being asked... PCT is literally the most important part of your cycle... i don't care how you "feel" right now... just wait... if you don't run a full and proper pct then you will learn the hard way... there will be no gains, no health and longevity, etc... nothing is more important than your health and recovery...

read this...

http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/


PCT


clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com

aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com

n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day www.sarms1.com

gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com




USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…
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Hey Dylan just noticed you're using nolva in your pct recommendations now. Would you mind explaining why you'd use it with the clomid? I've never understood the concept.


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my first cycle, i thought the same exact thing. how important is pct? so i did without it. i tell u what, i lost all my gains and more. i crashed hard. ive gained 15 lbs on cycle and lost almost 30 lbs. not worth it at all
 
Hey guys just wanted to check in. On my 5th week of clomid only pcp. So far things have been a breeze in terms of coming back and feeling back. Ive tapered the clomid down from the start of week 1 and will finish this last week at 25mg a day and that will be it for me. First 2 weeks were deff the worst, very mild depression and no motivation and gym was deff suffering but after that things have done a complete 360 and for the past 2 weeks if felt like i'm back on and strength is back to what it should and stamina is way up back to norm range and that psycho feeling i get in the gym is deff back. In terms of keeping gains, its been almost 2 months since and i could NOT be happier with how much ive kept!! Any way working on leaning out more for next cycle come December/January time. 10659245_10203781836724358_8234307629623260340_n.webp
 
Yeah bro, you still looking jacked. For natty text boosters I'm now a fan of hcgenerate to prep for my pct. Just a thought.
 
TylerDurden said:
Hey guys just wanted to check in. On my 5th week of clomid only pcp. So far things have been a breeze in terms of coming back and feeling back. Ive tapered the clomid down from the start of week 1 and will finish this last week at 25mg a day and that will be it for me. First 2 weeks were deff the worst, very mild depression and no motivation and gym was deff suffering but after that things have done a complete 360 and for the past 2 weeks if felt like i'm back on and strength is back to what it should and stamina is way up back to norm range and that psycho feeling i get in the gym is deff back. In terms of keeping gains, its been almost 2 months since and i could NOT be happier with how much ive kept!! Any way working on leaning out more for next cycle come December/January time. View attachment 4301
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Damn bro. Looking good. I did clomid only for my first ever cycle but probably not long enough. Makes me want to come off trt just to try it again.


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For some reason I really like clomid. It's kept me hard and really got me doing again. I'm going to continue till Sunday and see how things are going then.


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Gday Guys im new here, i must say this a great forum i like hearing live experiences.
Lets cut to the chase, i power lifted & body build naturally since i was 13 im 52yrs now, i took along break 4 yrs due old man bone and tendon injuries.
My DR put me on 5iu a day of HGH because i wasn't producing jack and Reandron every 12 weeks cuz my test is low its now been 10 months.
Im only 163cm tall i went from 96 kg of fat to a lean 83kg in , training hard again now and pain free for first time in a decades my elbows were basically bone on bone not much tendon or ligament and one has 15 degree bend permanently but no more pain .
i scored some legit compound chem Anavar because i read it kicks starts collagen production in the joints so i used 30- 40mg a day for 7 weeks with heaps of milk thistle and i only drink water and eat super clean.
I put on some good quality muscle now im at 86kg and even leaner .So what i would like to know with what im taken is their any need for me to run a PCT while im using Reandron and Sitropin A HGH cuz i got some winnie i would like to add but i want to keep does small and side to a minimum, i do have regular blood work done and everythings good.Cheers
 
veneimas said:
Gday Guys im new here, i must say this a great forum i like hearing live experiences.
Lets cut to the chase, i power lifted & body build naturally since i was 13 im 52yrs now, i took along break 4 yrs due old man bone and tendon injuries.
My DR put me on 5iu a day of HGH because i wasn't producing jack and Reandron every 12 weeks cuz my test is low its now been 10 months.
Im only 163cm tall i went from 96 kg of fat to a lean 83kg in , training hard again now and pain free for first time in a decades my elbows were basically bone on bone not much tendon or ligament and one has 15 degree bend permanently but no more pain .
i scored some legit compound chem Anavar because i read it kicks starts collagen production in the joints so i used 30- 40mg a day for 7 weeks with heaps of milk thistle and i only drink water and eat super clean.
I put on some good quality muscle now im at 86kg and even leaner .So what i would like to know with what im taken is their any need for me to run a PCT while im using Reandron and Sitropin A HGH cuz i got some winnie i would like to add but i want to keep does small and side to a minimum, i do have regular blood work done and everythings good.Cheers
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Might want to start a new thread with this info......This is someones thread in a way......Welcome to EVO
 
You can't be serious If you cycle need pct
 
TylerDurden said:
For some reason I really like clomid. It's kept me hard and really got me doing again. I'm going to continue till Sunday and see how things are going then.


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if it works for you then it works for you..
 
unless you are on trt, you ABSOLUTELY need pct regardless... i could care less what anyone says... there is NOTHING more important than recovery and pct when running a cycle and it needs to be extensive and complete... there are MULTIPLE areas that need addressed in pct and whether you think something is "mild" or not, a steroid is still going to shut you down, some more than others, but the fact remains, that's part of what they do and so you MUST make sure you are getting your body back on track in the safest, most thorough and effective manner... you also need to keep in mind that without a proper recovery, not only will you lose the gains you made but you will set yourself further back... with an extensive pct, not only can you maintain your gains but continue to make progress after as well...

read this article on the proper pct and follow this protocol to ensure complete recovery as well as health and longevity...

http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/


PCT


clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 AG-guys.com

aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com

hcgemerate es www.n2bm.com

n2guard n2bm.com
mk-2866 25 mg day www.sarms1.com

gw-501516 20 mg day www.sarms1.com




USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…
 
it is just not worth the risk to not do a PCT. You could seriously screw yourself up, never recover, and lose everything you gained
 
Yes pct is always a must unless you on trt
 
Lol who dug this thing up. I wonder what op did aftetall. I always thought it would be cool to see op's update their old threads after a year or two

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