Hey everyone,
A while back I was a first-timer that started a "first cycle" log here on evolutionary. After reading the good reviews on Robolics I made my order and long story short, I knew it was legit right off the bat. I got my bloodwork done from my regular walk-in doctor but something got messed up and I never got the results. Anyways I recently thought to myself screw it I am just going to pay the $80 and get it done at the specialized lab here where I live. I popped over there and got my blood drawn and the results just came in today.
So basically it says
LC/MS/MS -2365 H
Free Test - 853.8 H
lol that's alot right? tbh I have no idea how to gauge this shit
Well obviously Robo is legit anyways! I was having a hard time getting ahold of them lately for another order but I was explained I was emailing them wrong so I should be gtg for another order hopefully tomorrow after I fix what I was doing wrong.
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your free testosterone levels are very high which is good.
lets just hope there not selective scamming going on.....I have been on 125 mg robo test a week for 3 months....TRT does.....My test was 820 and off trt I am usually 350 to 400.....This was just 2 months ago.....Could it be your body just not ready to use that much test?????I am not sure that is possible but I wonder
Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone Cypionate Injection
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Source: Schulte-Beerbuhl, 1980 Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.
Reference http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172
According to this landmark study these are the mean averages of testosterone in healthy men (check out table 2)
The mean avg for 125 mg/wk was 570 ± 75
The mean avg for 300 mg/wk 1,345 ± 139
The mean avg for 600 mg/wk 2,370 ± 150
Where are you guys are coming up with 2,300ng/dl with only 100mg/wk or even 200mg/wk I don't have a clue.
Also the chart above clearly demonstrates how important the timing is, look at the level at 3 days and then 6 days. It is HALF.
So I'm going against the grain here, and if the OP confirms he waited 6 days after a 425mg injection (250 x 1.7 =425) then I'm going say this gear is no where near as underdosed as everyone is thinking. btw, the true protocol is to do 1 weekly injection, then have blood drawn exactly 7 days later. But, if you inject twice weekly (half the amount of course) then have blood drawn 3.5 days later the result will be very close to the same.
Just so you know both Watson and AY test-e get me right in the 950-1,000ng/dl range with a weekly 200mg injection. A gram of test puts me at slightly over 5,000ng/dl, which falls right in the range this study came up with (interpole 125 and 300 = 213). If 600mg gets one to 2,370, no way 400 more is going to get you to 8,000ng/dl.
I think OP should have this test redone after running a once weekly injection of 600mg/wk for at least 3 weeks.
Once again someone throwing out their own numbers based on 'opinion' rather then scientific data.. .. oh and plugging their own brand. Nice.
Oh and btw, using an AI will increase total test, as will hcg but to run a true protocol these should not be used if the goal is to test the effectiveness of a brand of testosterone.
SD I have about 40ml t400 from around the same time period.
Its enanthate.
no way bro. with 125mg of test, apparently your Serum T should have been 2200+++
Wasn't throwing it out there just because. I've studied more BW then most folks and that is what I've came up with my man. It's just an opinion of course not fact, I was not on HCG nore were any of the other people. Aromasin at 12.5mg E2D IMO wouldn't have that huge of an impact as most would think. My protocol was fairly spot on, I waited 8 weeks on a cruise dose before drawing blood and did my pin Thursday morning and got blood drawn that following Monday morning, which is what I'm aware is the standard protocol. I could be completely off base though!
Most of yours are not that far off. Some are in the range of that study others high. I do agree on the 200-250 range, and 1g range.
I apologize for saying you used this to plug your product. When I saw your original post I was on my phone, and your sig looked like it was intended to be part of your post if that makes sense.
No troll here - and I have always supported -SD-. My last trt blood exam, did 100mg Watson test c shot, drew blood 6 days later, I was at 850. I was coming off a test p blast two weeks prior, but that should of timed out because of the short ester.
I was not insinuating Robo was not legit. But that is a low value for that much test. And, as SD said, it was a bad batch.
sounds like your Watson is SHIT then!!!!11100mg should put you well over 2,000!!!!1!@@ lolololo
sounds like your Watson is SHIT then!!!!11100mg should put you well over 2,000!!!!1!@@ lolololo
if 200mg of Watson Test puts you at (only) 800, assuming we're using the weekly injections and not 10 days like TRT, I would suggest you do in fact call them as you probably have some shitty pharma, bud![]()
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