Approved Log First cycle Journal

[LevButlerov]

450 grams of carbs yes sir. and i have been staying with 3days on and one off at the gym .Is medium cardio ok or should i not do that. either. medium cardio to me is heart beat 110-125.

lets keep going same level

 

[milbous1]

so last night’s workout and macros.

 

[LevButlerov]

so last night’s workout and macros.

Drop protein into 250 and increase carbs into 550 level please

 

[milbous1]

Drop protein into 250 and increase carbs into 550 level please

I will do my best with that part the protein is what keeps me full feeling. If i just eat carbs im hungry again 30 minutes later it seems like. Some days im so hungry i cant stop eating and some days im so full I am miserable. This is my meal prep for lunch and a snack throughout the day chicken and rice. Here’s some sauces i picked up the first one i tried wasn’t bad.

 

[LevButlerov]

I will do my best with that part the protein is what keeps me full feeling. If i just eat carbs im hungry again 30 minutes later it seems like. Some days im so hungry i cant stop eating and some days im so full I am miserable. This is my meal prep for lunch and a snack throughout the day chicken and rice. Here’s some sauces i picked up the first one i tried wasn’t bad.

You can add more protein sure but lets keep carbs higher then.

 

[milbous1]

today’s macros and work out.

 

[LevButlerov]

today’s macros and work out.

600 carbs a big day @milbous1

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[codezz]

today’s macros and work out.

Tracking very nicely brother!!! Keep at it and ull notice the changes

 

[milbous1]

Tracking very nicely brother!!! Keep at it and ull notice the changes

I’ve leaned out a lot and i’m staying the same weight range within a couple pounds.

600 carbs a big day @milbous1

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@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
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Yesterday was an easy day for me to eat I could have kept eating. lol. Some days I can eat that much and more some days it’s a chore to get to 4000 calories

 

[waggat]

Still Getting in above 450 grams of calories every day. been staying steady between 211-213 the last week. My gym routine is ppl or plp depending on what my body is telling me to do. chicken and rice for every lunch and a snack sometimes chicken and rice for dinner but tonight is steak and sweet potatoes for dinner after the gym. Tomorrow is a day of rest. Been feeling lately like i don’t need a rest day but at my age definitely need one. So rest day is 30 minutes of decent cardio and massage chair for 30 minutes

450 grams of carbs yes sir. and i have been staying with 3days on and one off at the gym .Is medium cardio ok or should i not do that. either. medium cardio to me is heart beat 110-125.

so last night’s workout and macros.

I will do my best with that part the protein is what keeps me full feeling. If i just eat carbs im hungry again 30 minutes later it seems like. Some days im so hungry i cant stop eating and some days im so full I am miserable. This is my meal prep for lunch and a snack throughout the day chicken and rice. Here’s some sauces i picked up the first one i tried wasn’t bad.

today’s macros and work out.

Good looking Pull and Push workouts there mate!

How long has your weight been holding steady? And what macros was that at?

That latest day looks good with 600 carbs and still 300+ protein!

 

[milbous1]

Good looking Pull and Push workouts there mate!

How long has your weight been holding steady? And what macros was that at?

That latest day looks good with 600 carbs and still 300+ protein!

My weight originally went from 215 down to 211the first week of 400-450 carbs 300-325 protein 100-135 fat. then i’ve been at 450-500 carbs 300-325 protein 100-135 fat the last 3 weeks holding steady. The fat is melting off a lot though and there’s been a few days where i’m higher in everything as well. some days I can’t stop eating and get 5500 calories. the carbs run the me for the most part. pasta and rice don’t keep me full. I need the meat for that

 

[BeMe]

I will do my best with that part the protein is what keeps me full feeling. If i just eat carbs im hungry again 30 minutes later it seems like. Some days im so hungry i cant stop eating and some days im so full I am miserable. This is my meal prep for lunch and a snack throughout the day chicken and rice. Here’s some sauces i picked up the first one i tried wasn’t bad.

Walden farms stuff is really good. Dunno how they make it taste so good at 0 calorie. Their syrups are great on protein pancakes

 

[Dreamer]

today’s macros and work out.

Nice training brother - I am a fan of the elliptical myself! Everday on that thing - have you thought of lowering protein and bit and getting some more carbs in? you train with a decent amount of volume more fuel would be good

 

[milbous1]

Walden farms stuff is really good. Dunno how they make it taste so good at 0 calorie. Their syrups are great on protein pancakes

not to bad at all i agree definitely makes the whit rice and boiled chicken way better

 

[BeMe]

not to bad at all i agree definitely makes the whit rice and boiled chicken way better

I haven't tried any of those chicken ones. I've had their dressings and syrups.

Which flavour did you like outta the chicken sauces?

 

[milbous1]

Nice training brother - I am a fan of the elliptical myself! Everday on that thing - have you thought of lowering protein and bit and getting some more carbs in? you train with a decent amount of volume more fuel would be good

yes i’m going to definitely up the carbs some more. I’m going to see where the 600 grams range gets me. I just do the elliptical for 15 minutes pre workout because it gets my blood flowing and all my joints lubed up. when i quit doing cardio as much things started hurting. I don’t kill it on the elliptical just 115-125 heart beat range. It’s easier on my knees and stuff than running on treadmills or the stair climber. I am wondering if I’m over working myself on the workouts. i have been giving myself 1.5-2 minutes between sets except my burn out set that’s always as fast as i can lower the weights. Definitely going to up the carbs some more. I have been staying right in the 211.8-213.8 range first thing when i wake up.I haven’t been gaining any weight but I am looking a lot better But I definitely need to make the most out of this and eat more carbs

 

[milbous1]

I haven't tried any of those chicken ones. I've had their dressings and syrups.

Which flavour did you like outta the chicken sauces?

only tried two so far the Chipotle ranch and the chicken dipping sauce one. I probably like the ranch one better but i just pour it over the rice and chicken. I have been keeping the chicken and rice simple since i am so busy.

 

[LevButlerov]

I’ve leaned out a lot and i’m staying the same weight range within a couple pounds.

Yesterday was an easy day for me to eat I could have kept eating. lol. Some days I can eat that much and more some days it’s a chore to get to 4000 calories

You killed it

 

[BeMe]

only tried two so far the Chipotle ranch and the chicken dipping sauce one. I probably like the ranch one better but i just pour it over the rice and chicken. I have been keeping the chicken and rice simple since i am so busy.

Id go for the ranch and that buffalo blue sounds like it could be really good or really bad lol

 

[milbous1]

macros and work out for the night. Tomorrow off of work so i should get a solid 8-9 hours of sleep

 

[milbous1]

So I weighed myself this morning 209.4 pounds. I lost another 1.4 pounds. I’m beginning to wonder if something is wrong with me. The more I eat the more I lose. I Know I am measuring everything right. I weight it to the gram. then i break it in servings according. Maybe I am overtraining. I am extremely busy at work then i work out and I pretty much kill it at the gym. I eat crazy amounts of food. I will see what 600 grams of carbs do to me. for the next two weeks. and go from there.

 

[toddthelineman]

So I weighed myself this morning 209.4 pounds. I lost another 1.4 pounds. I’m beginning to wonder if something is wrong with me. The more I eat the more I lose. I Know I am measuring everything right. I weight it to the gram. then i break it in servings according. Maybe I am overtraining. I am extremely busy at work then i work out and I pretty much kill it at the gym. I eat crazy amounts of food. I will see what 600 grams of carbs do to me. for the next two weeks. and go from there.

Probably nothing wrong with you. You’ve become very insulin sensitive. You’ve become a “hard gainer”. This happens to me too. I’ll eat to failure every single day and get leaner. My daughter did that too hahaha. She attempted a “bulk” and got a full six pack which she had never had and she’s natty.

It’s a sign you have achieved excellent metabolic health. Donut bun burgers might work hahaha. Or eat one of those 32oz bags of peanut butter cup trail mix from Aldi every day. On top of what you’re eating already

 

[milbous1]

Probably nothing wrong with you. You’ve become very insulin sensitive. You’ve become a “hard gainer”. This happens to me too. I’ll eat to failure every single day and get leaner. My daughter did that too hahaha. She attempted a “bulk” and got a full six pack which she had never had and she’s natty.

It’s a sign you have achieved excellent metabolic health. Donut bun burgers might work hahaha. Or eat one of those 32oz bags of peanut butter cup trail mix from Aldi every day. On top of what you’re eating already

I do eat an apple fritter every saturday morning. I buy my guy’s donuts on Saturdays. I am still a fat kid at heart. Maybe I will have to add another doughnut day to my routine. Trail mix is an excellent idea easy to eat while I am at work.I don’t count my fish oil supplements And krill oil supplements on my calorie tracker .I take two doses of fish oil every day and a dose of krill oil every day. Last time I gained serious muscle when i was in mid 20s lots of peanut butter. Obviously I gained some fat as well. I’ve always been able to eat more than most people with out getting fat. It wasn’t until i was drinking a half gallon of vodka and a gallon of orange juice a day That i truly got fat.

 

[LevButlerov]

macros and work out for the night. Tomorrow off of work so i should get a solid 8-9 hours of sleep

So I weighed myself this morning 209.4 pounds. I lost another 1.4 pounds. I’m beginning to wonder if something is wrong with me. The more I eat the more I lose. I Know I am measuring everything right. I weight it to the gram. then i break it in servings according. Maybe I am overtraining. I am extremely busy at work then i work out and I pretty much kill it at the gym. I eat crazy amounts of food. I will see what 600 grams of carbs do to me. for the next two weeks. and go from there.

nothing wrong with you you're leaning out and have good genetics, carbs just work for you better @milbous1 start pushing 600-700 carbs

 

[milbous1]

Lunch after my leg workout 285 grams rice pilaf mixed with salad 202 grams of chicken. and my leg workout. leg workout was pretty good today. I think i’m going to stick with this one once a week maybe twice. let me know if I need to add anything. I will do more drop sets of these as i get a little more adjusted to it again

 

[BeMe]

So I weighed myself this morning 209.4 pounds. I lost another 1.4 pounds. I’m beginning to wonder if something is wrong with me. The more I eat the more I lose. I Know I am measuring everything right. I weight it to the gram. then i break it in servings according. Maybe I am overtraining. I am extremely busy at work then i work out and I pretty much kill it at the gym. I eat crazy amounts of food. I will see what 600 grams of carbs do to me. for the next two weeks. and go from there.

I wouldn't stress about a couple days. Its best to look at your weight in 2 week trends and see what's happening. Weight can fluctuate so much in a few days. I've had as much as an 8lb swing down and back up in a week.

Was I reading your app macros properly, you had 5200kcal?

 

[milbous1]

I wouldn't stress about a couple days. Its best to look at your weight in 2 week trends and see what's happening. Weight can fluctuate so much in a few days. I've had as much as an 8lb swing down and back up in a week.

Was I reading your app macros properly, you had 5200kcal?

yes sir 5275.1 i’ve been hitting 4500-to over 5000 most days now. I’m honestly almost sick of eating. I track everything with barcodes seving sizes serving weight. Today was a little bit over 5000 but i went over my fat more than i like. It was a special treat dinner for the family and I ate some butter and sour cream on my baked potato.

 

[milbous1]

dinner and macros for the day

 

[LevButlerov]

Lunch after my leg workout 285 grams rice pilaf mixed with salad 202 grams of chicken. and my leg workout. leg workout was pretty good today. I think i’m going to stick with this one once a week maybe twice. let me know if I need to add anything. I will do more drop sets of these as i get a little more adjusted to it again

you made the pilaf or buy?

 

[milbous1]

you made the pilaf or buy?

it was bought with the chicken shawarm. Sunday is always Albasha after the gym then to Cosco for groceries. albasha is my Greek restaurant I go to.

 

[LevButlerov]

it was bought with the chicken shawarm. Sunday is always Albasha after the gym then to Cosco for groceries. albasha is my Greek restaurant I go to.

nice very tasty look to it

 

[milbous1]

dinner and macros for the day. Today is an off day from the gym so no work out today almost hit 600 carbs. might have a small snack later will see I’m definitely not as hungry when i don’t workout.

 

[BeMe]

dinner and macros for the day

That's my kinda special dinner. Surf and turf is my fave.

Has the weight been trending down or was it just a couple days?

 

[LevButlerov]

dinner and macros for the day. Today is an off day from the gym so no work out today almost hit 600 carbs. might have a small snack later will see I’m definitely not as hungry when i don’t workout.

good dinner you hit the carb #s well

 

[milbous1]

That's my kinda special dinner. Surf and turf is my fave.

Has the weight been trending down or was it just a couple days?

I originally started out at 215 that was the first time I hit 209 But it dropped to 211 the first week then it’s been bouncing between 211 and 213 I haven’t weighed myself since sunday. I usally check it 2-3 times a week right when I wake up. I’m definitely holding a little more water weight since upping my carbs from around 500 to around 600. The Girls wanted Steak and shrimp originally. Couldn’t find any wild caught shrimp at the stores we were at that were thawed. The lobster tails were kinda on sale so we had lobster. Beef tenderloin is my daughter’s favorite food and seafood is the Mrs favorite. I like beef tenderloin and select size boiled blue crabs. I fell in love with louisianas Seafood and the way they cook it down here.

 

[BeMe]

I originally started out at 215 that was the first time I hit 209 But it dropped to 211 the first week then it’s been bouncing between 211 and 213 I haven’t weighed myself since sunday. I usally check it 2-3 times a week right when I wake up. I’m definitely holding a little more water weight since upping my carbs from around 500 to around 600. The Girls wanted Steak and shrimp originally. Couldn’t find any wild caught shrimp at the stores we were at that were thawed. The lobster tails were kinda on sale so we had lobster. Beef tenderloin is my daughter’s favorite food and seafood is the Mrs favorite. I like beef tenderloin and select size boiled blue crabs. I fell in love with louisianas Seafood and the way they cook it down here.

Sounds like the women in your life got expensive taste LOL. You're gonna have to keep working hard for a while bro

That weight change isn't much to be worried about. There's a lot of factors that could influence a little change like that.

We'll see how the 600g of carbs treats you. You're eating a lot. Your body is a machine bro.

 

[milbous1]

Sounds like the women in your life got expensive taste LOL. You're gonna have to keep working hard for a while bro

That weight change isn't much to be worried about. There's a lot of factors that could influence a little change like that.

We'll see how the 600g of carbs treats you. You're eating a lot. Your body is a machine bro.

I am a very busy person. My average daily step count for the year so far is 18147 steps. Then i workout and work. Only time I really got fat is the 6-9 months of heavy drinking literally gained like 60 pounds. I’ve always been around 220-225 somewhere in the high teens to low 20s bf. I’ve always ate a lot. Just never healthy like now. Thank god my woman works with me as a rigger. Or I definitely would be broke. So far today I hit 600 grams of carbs and i haven’t ate dinner yet lol . One of those days I can’t stop eating

 

[BeMe]

I am a very busy person. My average daily step count for the year so far is 18147 steps. Then i workout and work. Only time I really got fat is the 6-9 months of heavy drinking literally gained like 60 pounds. I’ve always been around 220-225 somewhere in the high teens to low 20s bf. I’ve always ate a lot. Just never healthy like now. Thank god my woman works with me as a rigger. Or I definitely would be broke. So far today I hit 600 grams of carbs and i haven’t ate dinner yet lol . One of those days I can’t stop eating

Sounds like me everyday on Tren lol. I can eat right after a meal if I want.

Yea you're step counts are consistently crazy. Probably cuz you're the go get now LOL. Start your career as a go get and retire as one too to save from those repetitive stress injuries.

If you're weight doesn't move like you want you may need to just keep eating more bro. Sounds Iike your body will know exactly what to do with it

 

[milbous1]

Sounds like me everyday on Tren lol. I can eat right after a meal if I want.

Yea you're step counts are consistently crazy. Probably cuz you're the go get now LOL. Start your career as a go get and retire as one too to save from those repetitive stress injuries.

If your weight doesn't move like you want you may need to just keep eating more bro. Sounds Iike your body will know exactly what to do with it

I just have to filter out the noise of the Extra gear i’m running as well. I heard EQ makes you want to eat all the time. And my hunger has been getting crazy lately. I took two days off in a row at the gym I feel great this morning. I know tonight is going to be a good day at the gym. I really think every 3-4 weeks taking two days off in a row might be good for me. I kno I am an extremely active person and Rest and recovery is equally important. I just feel like that I’m on cycle I am missing out if I miss a day when it’s actually probably the exact opposite. Especially since i’m not 20 something anymore

 

[BeMe]

I just have to filter out the noise of the Extra gear i’m running as well. I heard EQ makes you want to eat all the time. And my hunger has been getting crazy lately. I took two days off in a row at the gym I feel great this morning. I know tonight is going to be a good day at the gym. I really think every 3-4 weeks taking two days off in a row might be good for me. I kno I am an extremely active person and Rest and recovery is equally important. I just feel like that I’m on cycle I am missing out if I miss a day when it’s actually probably the exact opposite. Especially since i’m not 20 something anymore

That's a good realization. I burned out and got sick pushing too hard cuz I was on cycle. I had to take a month off and came back so much healthier and stronger than ever.

Do you ever program deload weeks? A couple rest days is good but you should deload every couple months too. Like you said we aren't 20 anymore lol

 

[milbous1]

That's a good realization. I burned out and got sick pushing too hard cuz I was on cycle. I had to take a month off and came back so much healthier and stronger than ever.

Do you ever program deload weeks? A couple rest days is good but you should deload every couple months too. Like you said we aren't 20 anymore lol

I did a deload week around christmas. It was 60-70 percent of what i normally lift and just like 12-15 reps i could have did more but I didn’t. and it was mainly just machines couple dumbbell for curling.

 

[milbous1]

tonight’s workout and macros

 

[milbous1]

I think I am going to get blood work done the next couple days. I am getting a little puffy water retention and some acne going on I wanted to cry the other day as well. I started january 7 so I should be good to see how my e2 and stuff is or should i wait for 6 weeks exactly. I’m getting a little puffy around the nips as well. it’s either the extra carbs or e2 is high.

 

[LevButlerov]

I think I am going to get blood work done the next couple days. I am getting a little puffy water retention and some acne going on I wanted to cry the other day as well. I started january 7 so I should be good to see how my e2 and stuff is or should i wait for 6 weeks exactly. I’m getting a little puffy around the nips as well. it’s either the extra carbs or e2 is high.

lets get the bloods done and see @milbous1

 

[LevButlerov]

tonight’s workout and macros

600 carbs killing it

 

[milbous1]

600 carbs killing it

I ate another 100 last night after that. I ate a bowl of oatmeal with a scoop of caeisn protein powder and some date syrup. I was starving still. I know I have to keep a eye on my Bf

 

[milbous1]

lets get the bloods done and see @milbous1

Will get done tomorrow

 

[milbous1]

lets get the bloods done and see @milbous1

Will get done tomorrow

 

[milbous1]

when yall are hitting 600 grams of carbs or more a day what do you keep your Fat intake at. I’ve been shooting for below 125. I have been doing a lot of random research. I came up with I should be going for 75 or below any thoughts.

Tomorrow is going to be a fun day I get blood work done at 1pm. I couldn’t get an earlier time. So Tomorrow I will be fasting until then. I haven’t known hunger in some time I guess it will give my body a good break from eating the pantry every day

 

[LevButlerov]

when yall are hitting 600 grams of carbs or more a day what do you keep your Fat intake at. I’ve been shooting for below 125. I have been doing a lot of random research. I came up with I should be going for 75 or below any thoughts.

Tomorrow is going to be a fun day I get blood work done at 1pm. I couldn’t get an earlier time. So Tomorrow I will be fasting until then. I haven’t known hunger in some time I guess it will give my body a good break from eating the pantry every day

If you can keep fats under 100 maybe 80, low fats is best with high carbs @milbous1

 

[LevButlerov]

I ate another 100 last night after that. I ate a bowl of oatmeal with a scoop of caeisn protein powder and some date syrup. I was starving still. I know I have to keep a eye on my Bf

killed it

 

[milbous1]

If you can keep fats under 100 maybe 80, low fats is best with high carbs @milbous1

I am going to work on getting the fats lower. I’ll start getting it down to 100 then down to 80

 

[BeMe]

I did a deload week around christmas. It was 60-70 percent of what i normally lift and just like 12-15 reps i could have did more but I didn’t. and it was mainly just machines couple dumbbell for curling.

That's good timing. Xmas is a great time for deload. You're probably good to continue on the way you have been for a while longer. The 2 day rest periods will help prolong the need for a deload.

I used to never deload and then sometime around 40 it just wasn't even possible anymore lol. Pushing it too long leads to some kinda setback everytime...usually an injury

 

[milbous1]

well macros for the day last meal until about 1:30 pm tomorrow and work out for the day. and my bag of ground oats. I’m going to make no fat no added sugar fruit bars and for my morning protein shake 25 pounds bag cost as much as two 4 pound bags

 

[milbous1]

That's good timing. Xmas is a great time for deload. You're probably good to continue on the way you have been for a while longer. The 2 day rest periods will help prolong the need for a deload.

I used to never deload and then sometime around 40 it just wasn't even possible anymore lol. Pushing it too long leads to some kinda setback everytime...usually an injury

I’m worried about an injury. My left shoulder is a weird thing sometimes it hurts usally it’s fine I just know there’s an injury there that’s probably never going to fully recover. It will go away mostly for periods of time.but it comes back in the same spot been that way for some time. before i started working out. Sometimes I think it’s better sometimes I think it’s worse. It’s that bump right on the top of your shoulder.

 

[LevButlerov]

I am going to work on getting the fats lower. I’ll start getting it down to 100 then down to 80

yes lets get to about 80 not lower

well macros for the day last meal until about 1:30 pm tomorrow and work out for the day. and my bag of ground oats. I’m going to make no fat no added sugar fruit bars and for my morning protein shake 25 pounds bag cost as much as two 4 pound bags

nice back of oats hardcore @milbous1

 

[milbous1]

well with fasting until 1 not much eaten today. got my blood drawn though. will be up to 10 days until all test are back. So macros and my work out for the day

 

[LevButlerov]

well with fasting until 1 not much eaten today. got my blood drawn though. will be up to 10 days until all test are back. So macros and my work out for the day

this is ok for a blood draw day

 

[BeMe]

I’m worried about an injury. My left shoulder is a weird thing sometimes it hurts usally it’s fine I just know there’s an injury there that’s probably never going to fully recover. It will go away mostly for periods of time.but it comes back in the same spot been that way for some time. before i started working out. Sometimes I think it’s better sometimes I think it’s worse. It’s that bump right on the top of your shoulder.

Like on your clavicle bone? Or in the actual shoulder joint?

What movements cause it to hurt?

 

[milbous1]

Like on your clavicle bone? Or in the actual shoulder joint?

What movements cause it to hurt?

forward pushing forward movement it’s not really deep kinda shallow . sometimes after pulling but usally after pushing

 

[LevButlerov]

forward pushing forward movement it’s not really deep kinda shallow . sometimes after pulling but usally after pushing

you're very red, sunburned?

 

[milbous1]

you're very red, sunburned?

1.5 mg of pt141 it was valentine’s day lol. It has made me flush every time i’ve used it just for a hour or so.

 

[LevButlerov]

1.5 mg of pt141 it was valentine’s day lol. It has made me flush every time i’ve used it just for a hour or so.

lol did your lady enjoy? @milbous1

 

[milbous1]

lol did your lady enjoy? @milbous1

we both fell asleep kinda sucked honestly waking up like i did a couple times

 

[LevButlerov]

we both fell asleep kinda sucked honestly waking up like i did a couple times

sleep and sneak it in

 

[milbous1]

sleep and sneak it in

I have permission to do it when she’s sleeping and wake her up. but she didn’t wake up when I was trying to wake her up so you know waiting until tonight. I have to have a responsive partner

 

[LevButlerov]

I have permission to do it when she’s sleeping and wake her up. but she didn’t wake up when I was trying to wake her up so you know waiting until tonight. I have to have a responsive partner

i see

 

[BeMe]

forward pushing forward movement it’s not really deep kinda shallow . sometimes after pulling but usally after pushing

Oh that's different. Clavicular fractures are so common. I wonder if you had one and it healed funny or something. Maybe there's something like a bone spur in there irritating you.

Have you ever spoken with a doc about it?

 

[milbous1]

Oh that's different. Clavicular fractures are so common. I wonder if you had one and it healed funny or something. Maybe there's something like a bone spur in there irritating you.

Have you ever spoken with a doc about it?

i went to the chiropractor for something else but told them about it they took x-rays but didn’t see anything i don’t know how reliable a chiropractor is though

 

[milbous1]

Oh that's different. Clavicular fractures are so common. I wonder if you had one and it healed funny or something. Maybe there's something like a bone spur in there irritating you.

Have you ever spoken with a doc about it?

I’ve bee doing shoulder work out first lately. I do two sets of super light weights like 10 and 30 pounds then a set of 60 or whatever feels right then I do a real shoulder workout and it’s been helping a lot. i can then bench press without it hurting me. If I go straight to bench it usally bothers me sooner than later

 

[BeMe]

i went to the chiropractor for something else but told them about it they took x-rays but didn’t see anything i don’t know how reliable a chiropractor is though

Well if it was a bone issue they should've seen it I'd think.

You might have better luck with a physio

 

[BeMe]

I’ve bee doing shoulder work out first lately. I do two sets of super light weights like 10 and 30 pounds then a set of 60 or whatever feels right then I do a real shoulder workout and it’s been helping a lot. i can then bench press without it hurting me. If I go straight to bench it usally bothers me sooner than later

One thing I like to do before I bench that helps with my shoulders is taking a small resistance band around my wrists, spread it wide to get tension on it and then bench press for 12-15 reps. Ever since I started doing that I rarely get shoulder pain when I bench

 

[milbous1]

One thing I like to do before I bench that helps with my shoulders is taking a small resistance band around my wrists, spread it wide to get tension on it and then bench press for 12-15 reps. Ever since I started doing that I rarely get shoulder pain when I bench

i will definitely look into that my bad I thought I sent this already

 

[BeMe]

i will definitely look into that my bad I thought I sent this already

Hopefully they can help you figure out what's up. Or atleast give you some warm-ups that help take away the pain during training

Try that band thing. Helped me a ton

 

[milbous1]

So I’m a dumb ass I have always threw a little hcg in when needed. My testies start hurting when they shrivel up too small so i will do 500 iu 3 times a week for a couple weeks then twice a week until i am good usally a month total. then it takes two three months until they turn to small dates again and start hurting. well that’s been with my trt and with my last little blast. no issues. this time it bloated me up started giving me really puffy nips. all in about a week to 10 days just when my guys woke back up. I gained 8 pounds of water in that time. I’ve since taken a ai and stopped the hcg. and going back to normal now. I shouldn’t have added that i wasn’t really thinking about it since i haven’t had any problems before. I’ve never been over 400 ish test before either. I ended up doing 500 for two weeks and it was way easier to just measure 100 a day so i ended up at 700 test and 350 Eq. I will have progress pics on Sunday. I will post labs when all available. They aren’t too bad progesterone and prolactin are high. From what I understand more than likely Hcg is the culprit. possibly my hair spray stuff with Finasteride and minoxidil I quit both completely. My hair was thinning a little bit I was hoping that stuff would keep it from getting worse. I think it has worked so far I have noticed in my blood work after i started using it my prolactin did go up a little bit. It’s never been this high so I think the hcg did it maybe I am wrong. I am staying below 100 grams of fat, 300-330 protein and 600 ish carbs give or take 50. I’m going to weight myself sunday as well. usally give. My A1c did go up 3 points maybe 4. so I think I need to fast a little bit more. anyway Just rambling on

 

[milbous1]

1st pic a month ago 2nd pic just now no flex or gym pump neither

 

[milbous1]

1st pic a month ago 2nd pic just now no flex or gym pump neither

I weigh the same in both pics I think I looked better off gear eating higher protein lower carb Idk maybe I’m wrong. my arms are definitely bigger in the gear picture but i’m fat it’s hard for me to know what’s going on when i weigh the same weight in both pics

 

[LevButlerov]

So I’m a dumb ass I have always threw a little hcg in when needed. My testies start hurting when they shrivel up too small so i will do 500 iu 3 times a week for a couple weeks then twice a week until i am good usally a month total. then it takes two three months until they turn to small dates again and start hurting. well that’s been with my trt and with my last little blast. no issues. this time it bloated me up started giving me really puffy nips. all in about a week to 10 days just when my guys woke back up. I gained 8 pounds of water in that time. I’ve since taken a ai and stopped the hcg. and going back to normal now. I shouldn’t have added that i wasn’t really thinking about it since i haven’t had any problems before. I’ve never been over 400 ish test before either. I ended up doing 500 for two weeks and it was way easier to just measure 100 a day so i ended up at 700 test and 350 Eq. I will have progress pics on Sunday. I will post labs when all available. They aren’t too bad progesterone and prolactin are high. From what I understand more than likely Hcg is the culprit. possibly my hair spray stuff with Finasteride and minoxidil I quit both completely. My hair was thinning a little bit I was hoping that stuff would keep it from getting worse. I think it has worked so far I have noticed in my blood work after i started using it my prolactin did go up a little bit. It’s never been this high so I think the hcg did it maybe I am wrong. I am staying below 100 grams of fat, 300-330 protein and 600 ish carbs give or take 50. I’m going to weight myself sunday as well. usally give. My A1c did go up 3 points maybe 4. so I think I need to fast a little bit more. anyway Just rambling on

it does happen, you mean you feel balls shrink? you try hcgenerate it helps without the hcg
hcg is nasty on estrogen real spikes

1st pic a month ago 2nd pic just now no flex or gym pump neither

the carbs are working well for you @milbous1 beautiful!

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[codezz]

1st pic a month ago 2nd pic just now no flex or gym pump neither

Carbs definitely are ur friend @milbous1

 

[BeMe]

1st pic a month ago 2nd pic just now no flex or gym pump neither

You look a lot bigger in the 2nd pic. Hard to believe you're the same weight. Your chest and arms look sooo much bigger in pic 2.

If prolactin is a problem you could always add some Proviron to help control it.

Never had pain in my shrunken nuts. I actually prefer them this way cuz I got thick thighs and they always got in the way. Much more aerodynamic now too lol

 

[milbous1]

You look a lot bigger in the 2nd pic. Hard to believe you're the same weight. Your chest and arms look sooo much bigger in pic 2.

If prolactin is a problem you could always add some Proviron to help control it.

Never had pain in my shrunken nuts. I actually prefer them this way cuz I got thick thighs and they always got in the way. Much more aerodynamic now too lol

they just hurt when they completely quit working. I don’t mind them being small c

You look a lot bigger in the 2nd pic. Hard to believe you're the same weight. Your chest and arms look sooo much bigger in pic 2.

If prolactin is a problem you could always add some Proviron to help control it.

Never had pain in my shrunken nuts. I actually prefer them this way cuz I got thick thighs and they always got in the way. Much more aerodynamic now too lol

I think the hcg did the prolactin. I only take 20 mg of npp a day. I might be wrong it migh be the little bit of npp doing it. i haven’t had that problem yet only variable was hcg.

I do look bigger in second pic Im going to redo these pics sunday morning. That first pic was done the sunday morning before I started so will see. I went through old post and when i posted that pic it said that I weighed 215. I weighed myself last night that’s what scale said. Idk maybe I was to close to phone will redo pics better sunday.

I don’t mind the shrunken nuts . I just don’t like when they start to ache. They quit aching two days after first hcg injection and don’t start up again until two or three months after last one I’ve done this cycle with the hcg three times now. never running a lot of test just try dose two times and 400 mg a week once. I quit this time when i blew up like a balloon and got puffy itchy nips. It’s all but gone now.

 

[HarleyGuy]

1st pic a month ago 2nd pic just now no flex or gym pump neither

I always love getting caught up on your log bro. You can see your rip showing in your obliques and delts now... you're working it hard and you're really transforming it's awesome.

Your log always gives me a chuckle too you make it fun!

Damn well knowing we are 100 percent better than b4 it’s actually kinda funny and sad at the same time.

I totally get this!

That’s kinda crazy that we increased carbs and calories and still lost some weight and fat.

We have the same response and are on the same macros... and I'm still dropping weight very slowly it's crazy!

I think every off day is going to get a 30 minute massage from now on

You know what even just going into the gym for this still puts your mind in the gym and continues that habitual cycle of just 'being there'. It's a great habit to reinforce.

Drop protein into 250 and increase carbs into 550 level please

Lev is bang on as usual this is exactly where I'm at too

Here’s some sauces i picked up the first one i tried wasn’t bad.

Bro I love Walden I use the salad dressing and syrup too

and a dose of krill oil every day

Great choice I'm a huge fan of krill... I dose the shit out of Krill

I think I am going to get blood work done the next couple days.

Waiting on this I want to see e2 with that crazy HCG you're running LOL

1.5 mg of pt141 it was valentine’s day lol. It has made me flush every time i’ve used it just for a hour or so.

Holy bro... I do 1000mcg and it gives me boners like a 14 year old, even while driving just for no reason well past the 12-24 hour mark. I do get flushed every time as well, but have never tried 1.5mg that's a man who means business I love it!

we both fell asleep

Now this made me LOL for real

From what I understand more than likely Hcg is the culprit.

It usually is. If you're a TRT forever guy I don't get why you'd use this. I run HCGenerate and noticed a huuuge improvement in resting ball size vs. before I started it. I first noticed in my 2025 log. That shit really works bro. I get mine here: https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/pct/hcgenerate-n2generate/

 

[BeMe]

they just hurt when they completely quit working. I don’t mind them being small c


I think the hcg did the prolactin. I only take 20 mg of npp a day. I might be wrong it migh be the little bit of npp doing it. i haven’t had that problem yet only variable was hcg.

I do look bigger in second pic Im going to redo these pics sunday morning. That first pic was done the sunday morning before I started so will see. I went through old post and when i posted that pic it said that I weighed 215. I weighed myself last night that’s what scale said. Idk maybe I was to close to phone will redo pics better sunday.

I don’t mind the shrunken nuts . I just don’t like when they start to ache. They quit aching two days after first hcg injection and don’t start up again until two or three months after last one I’ve done this cycle with the hcg three times now. never running a lot of test just try dose two times and 400 mg a week once. I quit this time when i blew up like a balloon and got puffy itchy nips. It’s all but gone now.

Yea 700 test could blow you up and give you itchy nips for sure lol.

Glad you're feeling better now. Must've been the HCG if dropping to fixed you up that quick.

Weight fluctuates. The mirror will tell you a lot more than the scale bro and my eyes say you're getting bigger for sure. A little extra fluff is to be expected. You'll shed that off no problem and you'll be bigger than pic 1 for sure

 

[milbous1]

I always love getting caught up on your log bro. You can see your rip showing in your obliques and delts now... you're working it hard and you're really transforming it's awesome.

Your log always gives me a chuckle too you make it fun!


I totally get this!


We have the same response and are on the same macros... and I'm still dropping weight very slowly it's crazy!


You know what even just going into the gym for this still puts your mind in the gym and continues that habitual cycle of just 'being there'. It's a great habit to reinforce.


Lev is bang on as usual this is exactly where I'm at too


Bro I love Walden I use the salad dressing and syrup too


Great choice I'm a huge fan of krill... I dose the shit out of Krill


Waiting on this I want to see e2 with that crazy HCG you're running LOL


Holy bro... I do 1000mcg and it gives me boners like a 14 year old, even while driving just for no reason well past the 12-24 hour mark. I do get flushed every time as well, but have never tried 1.5mg that's a man who means business I love it!


Now this made me LOL for real


It usually is. If you're a TRT forever guy I don't get why you'd use this. I run HCGenerate and noticed a huuuge improvement in resting ball size vs. before I started it. I first noticed in my 2025 log. That shit really works bro. I get mine here: https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/pct/hcgenerate-n2generate/

I’ll have to try the hcggenerate. It’s not so much that i care about ball size but when they shrivel all the way up and quit working like when i just have a dribble come out during adult time they start aching a so i just use the hcg for a month and then quit and the cycle starts over in 3-4 months. When using trt im fine but this time on 100mg of test a day bad shit happened in a week i went from 209 to 220 and my nips got spicy and puffy i took aromasin 3 times and immediately started dropping weight so im assuming it was e2 but my prolactin was high and the progesterone was high. I quit the hcg i won’t mess with it when im on a real blast.

1.5 mg of pt141 usally last about 24 hours and hours. 3-4 through 8-10 are intense it’s a every now and again thing when she tells me to because she knows what she’s getting into.

I wanna gain some muscle and see what 220-225 and 10 percent or less bf looks like on me.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I quit the hcg i won’t mess with it when im on a real blast.

Honestly I'm not a fan of HCG at all, to me it's just estrogen in a vial while on cycle.

 

[milbous1]

Honestly I'm not a fan of HCG at all, to me it's just estrogen in a vial while on cycle.

I 100 percent agree with that. I am still waiting on the hormone part of my rest. It always ends up being around 10 days. I am kinda curious. I’ve never seen my e2 above 17. It sits at 15-16 pretty much no matter what i’ve done so far. I’ve never seen my progesterone or prolactin as high as it was with these test either

 

[milbous1]

here’s the test results that I do have right now. I have no detectable psa. hemoglobin and stuff looks good liver enzymes are on high end of normal shgb is low Idk. still waiting on test and e2

 

[BeMe]

here’s the test results that I do have right now. I have no detectable psa. hemoglobin and stuff looks good liver enzymes are on high end of normal shgb is low Idk. still waiting on test and e2

Everything looks really good. Can barely tell you're on cycle right now. That low SHBG is interesting.

Prolactin isn't too high. Maybe you were just feeling like it cuz you're on the high end of normal?

 

[milbous1]

macros for yesterday. and my workout I did a new triceps exercise i didn’t put on the sheet as well i laid on smith machine and it was kind of a cross between a skull crusher and close grip bench. I worked my ass off in the gym yesterday and my muscles don’t even know it. like i could do it all over again

 

[milbous1]

Everything looks really good. Can barely tell you're on cycle right now. That low SHBG is interesting.

Prolactin isn't too high. Maybe you were just feeling like it cuz you're on the high end of normal?

I know the test is real it comes from my doctor. lol the Eq is from ug freak. my shbg got really low last cycle i did as well then after cycle is over it goes up. Some one said it could be because of daily injection. I don’t know if I want to add my turinabol, Anavar 50s or just a month of injectable superdrol at 10 mg a day. After reading about turinabol and anavar Why would someone choose turinabol over anavar when anavar is clearly way stronger in every way and safer on the liver

 

[BeMe]

I know the test is real it comes from my doctor. lol the Eq is from ug freak. my shbg got really low last cycle i did as well then after cycle is over it goes up. Some one said it could be because of daily injection. I don’t know if I want to add my turinabol, Anavar 50s or just a month of injectable superdrol at 10 mg a day. After reading about turinabol and anavar Why would someone choose turinabol over anavar when anavar is clearly way stronger in every way and safer on the liver

Anavar or superdrol is a pretty wild decision lol. Talk about total opposite ends of the spectrum. Anavar is a lot of fun but if I were you I'd start with 25 and titrate from there just to see how bad the pumps are. I got them pretty bad in the beginning even at 25mgs and if I went for 50 right away I may have crippled myself. One day driving into work stuck in traffic my abs cramped up and it was like I was giving birth. I had to lean my seat back and lamas breath my way outta it. Contemplated pullin over on the shoulder of the highway for a minute it got so bad lol.

I don't know much about tbol cuz it never really interested me but from what I've seen it has its place in very specific cycles. But ya just comparing apples to apples anavar would win almost everytime.

 

[milbous1]

Anavar or superdrol is a pretty wild decision lol. Talk about total opposite ends of the spectrum. Anavar is a lot of fun but if I were you I'd start with 25 and titrate from there just to see how bad the pumps are. I got them pretty bad in the beginning even at 25mgs and if I went for 50 right away I may have crippled myself. One day driving into work stuck in traffic my abs cramped up and it was like I was giving birth. I had to lean my seat back and lamas breath my way outta it. Contemplated pullin over on the shoulder of the highway for a minute it got so bad lol.

I don't know much about tbol cuz it never really interested me but from what I've seen it has its place in very specific cycles. But ya just comparing apples to apples anavar would win almost everytime.

I was kinda joking about the superdrol I really don’t even know why i have it. I thought in my head i could get really lean and do the superdrol for a month before I spent a week at the beach or something. Yeah I’ll start out with a half of a tab for sure if I do add anything extra to this cycle. My buddy at work does the tbol. he likes the gym pump

 

[waggat]

I weigh the same in both pics I think I looked better off gear eating higher protein lower carb Idk maybe I’m wrong. my arms are definitely bigger in the gear picture but i’m fat it’s hard for me to know what’s going on when i weigh the same weight in both pics

You look leaner in the second pic so bring the same weight is a win!

On the shoulder, have you ever tried manual therapy for it like active release?

 

[milbous1]

You look leaner in the second pic so bring the same weight is a win!

On the shoulder, have you ever tried manual therapy for it like active release?

what’s active release? I went to the chiropractor for a bit that helped it was addictive going to the chiropractor it got expensive. I’m going to make pictures this sunday.

Hows your cruise going. did you lean out a little bit more without that extra test

 

[LevButlerov]

here’s the test results that I do have right now. I have no detectable psa. hemoglobin and stuff looks good liver enzymes are on high end of normal shgb is low Idk. still waiting on test and e2

how much zinc magnesium are you taking in daily? seems your ALP is low @milbous1

 

[LevButlerov]

macros for yesterday. and my workout I did a new triceps exercise i didn’t put on the sheet as well i laid on smith machine and it was kind of a cross between a skull crusher and close grip bench. I worked my ass off in the gym yesterday and my muscles don’t even know it. like i could do it all over again

carbs going up really hardcore @milbous1 lets get updated pics up

 

[BeMe]

I was kinda joking about the superdrol I really don’t even know why i have it. I thought in my head i could get really lean and do the superdrol for a month before I spent a week at the beach or something. Yeah I’ll start out with a half of a tab for sure if I do add anything extra to this cycle. My buddy at work does the tbol. he likes the gym pump

I got a bunch of Anadrol in the cupboard. Not sure where or when to use it either but they seem like fun right lol

 

[milbous1]

I got a bunch of Anadrol in the cupboard. Not sure where or when to use it either but they seem like fun right lol

yeah I bought a bunch of stuff in the beginning before i knew anything about it. I bought injectable versions of the oral’s thinking it was safer until i did more research and realized it was the same thing. lol I have 3 vials of injectable anadrol as well. i have a little bit of bitcoin i bought a while ago and went on a shopping spree. seems like anadrol would help break a plateau.

 

[milbous1]

carbs going up really hardcore @milbous1 lets get updated pics up

sunday pics. toda carbs aren’t up as much only like 550 not as hungry later in the day

 

[milbous1]

how much zinc magnesium are you taking in daily? seems your ALP is low @milbous1

probably none lately haven’t been taking a multivitamin lately i will add those in the mix