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@BeMe meditation before bedtime will help with good deep sleep.........
Disney is about an hour away from the beach. Unless you're talking about the lake
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exactly lol@BeMe : thinking of bumping tren to 50mg
@LevButlerov : no need would hold off
@BeMe : oops I've already started it
i'm just following the ride now @waggat @BeMe is bumping it himself
This is why you’re so awesome @LevButlerov! You don’t know us from Adam and Eve but yet you are always looking out for our best interest! Whether we listen or not is another story lol!steady but no need for a tren bump@BeMe
yes I can tell it was a family day
its possible because you were tired and not 100%
bumping tren is not usually the solution to being a bit weaker, we should look at nutrition carbs under 500 is the issum imo
i cant stop you
@BeMe : thinking of bumping tren to 50mg
@LevButlerov : no need would hold off
@BeMe : oops I've already started it
I think we stayed about an hour or so away from disney for a week. Only went to disney for 1 day.
I think playing with our hormones anything is possible. Maybe you was just kick ass last week. I’m the same way though if I notice I don’t match the week prior. Something is off right!
Took the bump in Tren very nice! How long do you think till you notice it and/or will you even?
LOL. You guys just post up on a tree like the bears I bet. Who needs a bucket and peat moss. Eat enough protein and you don't even need to wipe
But think of all the money you'd be saving on pills LOLNothing worse than bussing to holland river and overdising on fish.
Yea ocean fish are so much better than lake fish. Less worms and they don't have that murky fishy taste some lake fish can get.
You're area is famous for big largemouth bass tho. There's been a couple near world records caught around you.
Yea that's a good point. Although my knees are totally fucked already so it would probably just be more of the same lol. I'm gonna need both knees replaced eventually but I'm hoping the science gets to a point where the surgery isn't so bad and the knees will last forever. Til then I can just move through the pain and stay on deca as much as possible
Shhh why you always pointing out my strategies bro!!@BeMe : thinking of bumping tren to 50mg
@LevButlerov : no need would hold off
@BeMe : oops I've already started it
This go around there is a bit of a method to my madness. Trying too see if there is an androgenic/anabolic sweet spot for me that doesn't include a bunch of sides. I can safely say my body will tolerate 40mg ED at this point now. I've had a mild androgenic bump, but barely noticeable. Still searching. 50mg is my hard cutoff though and if I said it I'll stick too it.
I promise to report back right after I pin 50mg for the first time lol
I actually hit a couple rep PRs last night and made some good progression over the week before as well. Hard to say for sure if it was the bump or not, but training today also felt a lot better. When I started feeling a bit tired mid session today my drive came back on every set right when I started my first couple reps.
I started a new training cycle today. I changed my reps and weights a little bit so it's hard to gauge compared to last week, except for how I felt, that was good
You know I love and follow your advice, but at this point I have a very specific goal I'm trying to hit with the dosing. I'm taking it really slow too. I've been on 40mg for 3 weeks in a row now and I was at 40 before I got sick. Health is staying strong and I'm being careful. Anything gets a little off I'll back down
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its very fair
you can see your body and feel it my brother @BeMe I do think that after the multiple sickness bouts you had this winter, we should not be going up on tren, period. Why? simply long term we can run tren again in a few cycles and get back to a higher dose, especially summer less negative sides around.
I know you want to get to the goals but we need to think your health as well.
I always support, respect and love you, but trust me when I say Trenbolone is something we should be careful with.
Log Day 71
Current Dosing
Test E 50mg ED
Deca 100mg/week (For Joints)
GH 2iu ED (For Recovery)
Tren Ace 45mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Cardarine 20mg ED
Aromasin 6.25 EOD
Cialis 10mg ED (BP)
Low dose aspirin EOD (BP)
Blood Pressure - 125/61
AM Weigh-in - 202.3lbs
Day one on 45mgs of Tren and it was a good one. It was the final day of my training cycle and I actually managed a couple rep PRs. I was feeling a little stuck most of the week leading up to this day. Maybe the little bump got me over that little plateau.
The goal of this bump is to try and find a dose where I get that androgenic boost without any bad sides. I'm willing to go up to 50mg ED if need be but that's gonna be the cut off. We'll see how 45 goes over the next few weeks.
Took a quick pic today while training. I'll get some progress pics done this weekend.
Dinner last night was Lemongrass chicken
Current Dosing
Test E 50mg ED
Deca 100mg/week (For Joints)
GH 2iu ED (For Recovery)
Tren Ace 45mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Cardarine 20mg ED
Aromasin 6.25 EOD
Cialis 10mg ED (BP)
Low dose aspirin EOD (BP)
Blood Pressure - 125/61
AM Weigh-in - 202.3lbs
Day one on 45mgs of Tren and it was a good one. It was the final day of my training cycle and I actually managed a couple rep PRs. I was feeling a little stuck most of the week leading up to this day. Maybe the little bump got me over that little plateau.
The goal of this bump is to try and find a dose where I get that androgenic boost without any bad sides. I'm willing to go up to 50mg ED if need be but that's gonna be the cut off. We'll see how 45 goes over the next few weeks.
Took a quick pic today while training. I'll get some progress pics done this weekend.
Dinner last night was Lemongrass chicken
I believe you bro. I'm being very proactive with my health. I took elderberry and extra vitamin C this week prophylactically this weekend cuz I knew I'd be around the kids again. I've also come to the realization that on Tren I can't rely on my immune system as much. Usually I never go to the doctor and let my body figure it out but that doesn't work on Tren. Like my sore throat. Normally I would just wait it out and be fine but 6 days it wasn't healing all on its own. Went to the doc and a couple days later I'm good. Good learning lesson.its very fair
I do think that after the multiple sickness bouts you had this winter, we should not be going up on tren, period. Why? simply long term we can run tren again in a few cycles and get back to a higher dose, especially summer less negative sides around.
I know you want to get to the goals but we need to think your health as well.
I always support, respect and love you, but trust me when I say Trenbolone is something we should be careful with.
No Tren this summer for me bro. This summer is gonna be all EQ and Mast lol. Actually summer I get exposed to a lot more sickness because I'm a lot more social. Up here in the winter we tend to just work and stay home outta the cold. Going out is no fun this time of year.
Seriously. When I was carnivore wiping was purely a formality. I didn’t really “poop”. It was more like bobcat scat. Several pellets. I could choose a good time to do it. Never urgent.
All of my best poops were in the woods. 1) because you really had to go, 2) because the squat 3) the chance of getting caught increases the pressure
That would make a good T shirt LOL
One thing I keep forgetting to ask you. Given your age and lifestyle, were you around Chicago in the early days of the House scene? Ever get to see Bad Boy Bill back in the day?
Oooo the Tren bump is in....and working.....do we get an "I told you so"?
Be interesting to see how far the bump takes you.
YAY food porn
Looking huge and vascular as fuck brother
Almost had a terrible time deer hunting. Heard a branch snap, turned a little to look and almost shat in the heel of my boot. Only caught the side.
Id have to put "soggy percs" on my supp list. Lol
I was but I didn’t pay any attention to electronic music
Yeah I think the warm water makes them grow bigger.
Yeah, Disney is cool, but it's way too crowded these days. I used to work at the theme parks engineering the rides.
Even back in 2003 i think? It was stupid busy. Couldnt imagine now. Engineerin em, thats pretty cool.
your knees are messed up for being attacked by the cops before?
Nice update mate. Good to see some PR's in there!
Will the new training cycle focus on anything in particular?
Looking jacked in the photo. Chest is popping big time!
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Fair
I respect your journey my brother lets do this! and looking forward to eq and mast in the summer @BeMe
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steady after the tren boost I hope
@BeMegood to see PRs big ones, lets start pushing in drop sets more!
lets see i would not go over 50mgs but you can jump to 50mgs in 2 weeks if you wish
love the dinner very nice
quick pic amazing you're super pumped BIG jacked arms, bowling ball shoulders anad you're hella vascular WOW!
No I told you so's here lol. I save all those for my wife.Oooo the Tren bump is in....and working.....do we get an "I told you so"?
Be interesting to see how far the bump takes you.
YAY food porn
Looking huge and vascular as fuck brother
Ya I'm curious to see how long it lasts as well. I've found with the Tren that each bump seems to last for 2 weeksish and then it sorta just normalized. The higher I go the longer the bumps last and the more obvious they feel. Funny how that works lol
I can see how it could be a dangerous game continuing to ride the wave and chasing the gains with tren
Its probably in the water if they test it. I've heard they can find detectable levels of drugs in waterways near problem cities. Barrie's water treatment runoff is probably hitting the lake or river, or both, sooo I bet there's some detectable levels in there LOL. Barrie people love to party
Awww...so what's did you do with your drugs then lolI was but I didn’t pay any attention to electronic music
Yep. Plus there's a specific species of bass called the Florida Largemouth that genetically grows bigger than the rest. The fishing destination lakes transplant Florida bass in them to bring in tourists. The biggest one ever was actually caught in Japan believe it or not
LOL!! Naw hockey. All forwards in hockey that play at a competitive level have fucked up knees by the time they're in their teens. Its basically unavoidable. Kinda like concussions for football players in certain positions.
Most of the time it's an accident and someone clips your knee when you're skating full speed and you're fucked. My worst one a guy from my competitive league team clipped me in the high school league and I was out for a month. My coach was pissed
Thanks bro. Yea when I get a pump I feel like I got a solid set of C cups lol
Im gonna see if I can keep pushing with the training I've been running. Swapping out a few movements and messing with rep ranges a bit for the first couple weeks and then I'm gonna see how far I can push things. I'm pretty happy with the gains so far and keeping things mostly the same will give me a good idea of how the Tren is working for me
Steady Eddie! Only thing I'm changing is taking the Asin down to E4D now. Started feeling a little joint pain yesterday so I skipped my dose. The pain was in my elbow, wrists, and knees so I'm a little worried E2 might be a bit low. Not so bad today though. Joints felt fine training just now.steady after the tren boost I hope
good to see PRs big ones, lets start pushing in drop sets more!
lets see i would not go over 50mgs but you can jump to 50mgs in 2 weeks if you wish
love the dinner very nice
quick pic amazing you're super pumped BIG jacked arms, bowling ball shoulders anad you're hella vascular WOW!
I've been on the lookout for any signs of low e2 just cuz my Asin dose has been steady for a while now. Thought it was a good time to adjust and see. Bloods are in a few weeks
100% it is. Check this out from a CTV article in dec 2025. Just 2 sections i copied. Lol
Also orillia has our landfill and shit treatment plant on lake simcoe beside each other, but a river goes through the landfill and beside the shit plant to lake simcoe. Its been called shits creek for years and guys net fish for minnows there. Lo
"The National Wastewater Drug Surveillance (NWDS) program is a public dashboard that shows data on which drugs are prevalent in different parts of the country. The data is collected by analyzing wastewater samples from seven participating provinces and territories – British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia and the Northwest Territories.
Stimulants, hallucinogens, opioids, dissociatives, sedatives and hypnotics, synthetic cannabinoids, precursor chemicals, and antipsychotics are among the more than 500 substances the NWDS shares data on. Screening doesn’t include most pharmaceuticals, though there are exceptions for xylazine, fentanyl and morphine, among others.
At the time of its launch, Health Canada said the dashboard showed that of 211 samples analyzed, 5,000 drugs were found, including 20 substances chemically related to fentanyl."
Bro, played defense for years. One of the reasons my knees are fuckin mangled. The amount of slap shots i took for my goalies was for more than bloody necessary.
Even not taking and reading your take on Tren increases I can see how people overload chasing the gains. Really smart to put a cap on yourself brother.
@BeMe you look incredible with these updates. Your vascularity has improved tremendously.
Do what your gotta do right. I mostly played center and some left wing. I remember the worst was catching it on the inside of the foot or inside thigh. You only make that mistake a few times when you're young and then you learn not to flinch and just square up for the block lol
Yea if I don't set a hard off number I'd probably keep going. Thankfully some words of wisdom from @toddthelineman got me thinking on the matter. He's full of endless goodies like that one
Thanks bro. I'm sure the Tren can take most of the credit on that lol
It was all just a way to get by for me. Just a life I sort of found myself in. I never really liked crowds. I had friends that used the music scene very successfully, but that wasn’t me.
Why do my minnows taste like fent and smell like shit?
Yea bud, Victory or Valhala. I used to pour water down my skates every game from taking shots. I filled in for goalies before because apparently i was basically a second goalie with out the pads. But i rememver a slap shot i fucking caught out if habit. The bruised palm was worth it but the play stopped because i couldnt open my damn hand.
Whoa! Tren works, huh? Definitely getting that “look”. Crazy veins
Log Day 72
Current Dosing
Test E 50mg ED
Deca 100mg/week (For Joints)
GH 2iu ED (For Recovery)
Tren Ace 45mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Cardarine 20mg ED
Aromasin 6.25 E4D
Cialis 10mg ED (BP)
Low dose aspirin EOD (BP)
Blood Pressure - 121/70
AM Weigh-in - 202.4lbs
Day 1 of my new training cycle. I'm keeping most of the movements the same but changing up some weights and reps just for the first few weeks. My app trys to limit the volume to 2 sets and 3rir for the first week but I bumped up to 3 sets and 2rir with 1 set to near failure.
The plan for this training cycle will be to keep my reps a bit lower. Staying mainly in the 8-12 range to start but probably more in the 6-8 as time progresses. I've noticed the Tren can tax my cardio and on really high rep stuff like 15+ I feel like my cardio is failing harder than my muscle. Hopefully staying in a mid to low rep range will help me hit my muscles harder.
Skipped my leg extensions last night cuz I trained them the night before. I missed a day training last week and had to make it up on Monday so the extensions ended up on back to back days.
Sleep was just ok last night according to my tracker but I woke up feeling good and recovery was strong today.
I noticed my joints were feeling a little sore yesterday. It started the day before with just my left elbow, but I've had tendonitis in the past and thought maybe I was getting a flare up. Then yesterday my knees and wrists started aching too. Concerned maybe it's a warning sign for low e2 so I've adjusted my Aromasin down by half.
Dinner last night was Korean style BBQ chicken. Sorry about the corn @LevButlerov but the wife made it so I had to eat it lol
Current Dosing
Test E 50mg ED
Deca 100mg/week (For Joints)
GH 2iu ED (For Recovery)
Tren Ace 45mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Cardarine 20mg ED
Aromasin 6.25 E4D
Cialis 10mg ED (BP)
Low dose aspirin EOD (BP)
Blood Pressure - 121/70
AM Weigh-in - 202.4lbs
Day 1 of my new training cycle. I'm keeping most of the movements the same but changing up some weights and reps just for the first few weeks. My app trys to limit the volume to 2 sets and 3rir for the first week but I bumped up to 3 sets and 2rir with 1 set to near failure.
The plan for this training cycle will be to keep my reps a bit lower. Staying mainly in the 8-12 range to start but probably more in the 6-8 as time progresses. I've noticed the Tren can tax my cardio and on really high rep stuff like 15+ I feel like my cardio is failing harder than my muscle. Hopefully staying in a mid to low rep range will help me hit my muscles harder.
Skipped my leg extensions last night cuz I trained them the night before. I missed a day training last week and had to make it up on Monday so the extensions ended up on back to back days.
Sleep was just ok last night according to my tracker but I woke up feeling good and recovery was strong today.
I noticed my joints were feeling a little sore yesterday. It started the day before with just my left elbow, but I've had tendonitis in the past and thought maybe I was getting a flare up. Then yesterday my knees and wrists started aching too. Concerned maybe it's a warning sign for low e2 so I've adjusted my Aromasin down by half.
Dinner last night was Korean style BBQ chicken. Sorry about the corn @LevButlerov but the wife made it so I had to eat it lol
Lol forgot you weren't a goalie and dropped down in a butterfly and gloved it eh
Yea when it comes to the aesthetics I can't complain. I'm very full all day long. Walking around now I look the same size I did with a pump before.
Just missing the crazy androgenic feeling a lot of guys talk about in the gym
Worse, standing glove, it wouldve cleared over the net easily by 2 feet or more considering i was 6'1" then.
I was 6'1" when i was 12 lol. Biggest guy on the ice, practically made for defense.
Bro, isn't Tren supposed to make joints feel a bit dry, kind of the opposite of Deca? Serious question btw.
Yea music or not, drugs were fun everywhere back in the day.
I was a big fan of Chicago house and I came up just after it had taken off. Always thought it woulda been so cool to be there for the birth of a whole music scene. Kinda like being a part of history
Born defenceman. Every team had 1 of you I remember haha. Had to have the 6 footer when the rest of us still had little girl voices hahaha
Haven't heard that before. I'm gonna look into that though.
Funny how you had to add the serious part cuz you knew I thought you'd be fukn with me like always LOL
I was deffinitely the fuckin goon on the every team i played on. Lol
It was initially one of the reasons I shied away from Tren I think. I thought, fuck, I dont want my knees to be worse. Might be wrong though.
yeah hockey is very dangerous. I never took you for a hockey player though. I figured you were more of a soccer player if that makes sense. @BeMe
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Bros, I don't think you are going to notice any joint issues at that dosage. @BeMe maybe if you run tren really high and go super heavy, you'll notice issues.
Tren changes physiques. but it has a heck of a side effect issue
its busy. the trick is go on a day it rains. that keeps the people away
@BeMe that is an alpha meal. nice job on the rice, veggies and chicken. and your physique is amazing too. you are almost at full alpha status. 15-20 more pounds of pure muscle and you will be there
I didn't know that but I know that Japan used to put out that video game where you fish in the video game. I played that a long time ago with my nephew.
I thought you would be a winger. you would be a fast skater i would imagine @BeMe
I did go to a few parties and raves in the city. Crazy crazy. Freaks everywhere hahahaha
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steady dont bump the tren
@BeMe good weight today
interesting change lets see how it goes
you can do lower reps but you should have at least 1 drop set each exercise you can do easy one like 25-30 reps for the pump light weight to close the set
leg ext dont over do smart move
you doing cbd prebed right? any issues overall?
we should add some glucosamine chondroitin msm into your stack
the corn is in
lol but i love the look bbq chicken and rice is always a win!
Looking swoll and vascularity looks good too! You’re doing something right. Keep up the hard work!
From what I read it doesn't technically make your joints worse. It just acts more likea DHT then a Nandralone in that regard.
I've been running pretty decent doses for a while now and this is my first run in with dry joints. Personally I just think it's cuz my AI and my e2 being to low.
Nice!! That's the big man's job. I was always like a Sam Bennett type player. Every team I played for I was top 3 in points and penalty minutes lol
Naw never me. Soccer players are G4P lol
That's literally the goal bro. Ideally in a few years I'll get to 225lbs lean and I'll be happy
Fishing video games are strangley fun. I think I know the one you're talking about too
Yea speed was always my main advantage. The fastest guys usually play center cuz you're expected to get back fast to help out the defenceman if the play starts going back to your zone. Wingers are fast too but usually not as quick as center man and don't have to have the same level of cardio. Wingers are usually bigger and have really strong shots.
Lol I knew there was no way the experience completely passed you by. I bet it was a wild time haha
I started going to abandoned warehouse raves when I was 14 right when the scene started here. That was back in 98. Used to be you'd have to know someone who knew someone and they'd get a call with the location a couple hours before the rave started. I think we were basically just copying what you guys were doing years earlier
Compared to me i think i only had 3 goals. Haha
I still have the score sheet of my first goal somewhere here ever. Lol
Shit i used to play soccer to keep my in shape for hockey next season.
The joint supp stack is always in bro. My knees are so bad they get all the help they can.steady dont bump the tren
good weight today
interesting change lets see how it goes
you can do lower reps but you should have at least 1 drop set each exercise you can do easy one like 25-30 reps for the pump light weight to close the set
leg ext dont over do smart move
you doing cbd prebed right? any issues overall?
we should add some glucosamine chondroitin msm into your stack
the corn is in
I'll probably start adding in excercise intensifiers around week 3 or 4 in this training cycle. Lately I've really been focused on trying to improve my mind muscle connection. Really driving with only the muscle I'm targeting and avoiding getting caught up in just moving weight.
I think it's working because the DOMs I've been getting in my target muscles group each day has really increased.
Thanks bro! Just focusing on the basics, staying consistent, and of course there's the Tren lol
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I hope we can work on the joints, you consider adding more omega 3?
Log Day 73
Current Dosing
Test E 50mg ED
Deca 100mg/week (For Joints)
GH 2iu ED (For Recovery)
Tren Ace 45mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Cardarine 20mg ED
Aromasin 6.25 E4D
Cialis 10mg ED (BP)
Low dose aspirin EOD (BP)
Blood Pressure - 128/62
AM Weigh-in - 203.4lbs
Sleep was subpar last night. I got woken up at 5:30 this morning by a customer calling with an emergency call. Had to get ready quick and head out to work early. Already had a full day planned so it was a long day. Luckily today was a programmed rest day so no training tonight. I'll try to sleep a bit earlier.
BP looks a bit more elevated than it should. Didn't have time to sit down and relax for a mine before taking the reading this morning. Just wanted to have a ballpark idea of where I'm at for reference.
Back training was great last night. Felt like I did a great job of targetting each area of the back I was trying to hit and my the end of the first 9 sets my was fully pumped and felt huge. Played around with the angles on my rack mounted preacher pad and found a new position that hits my biceps way harder. Very good session overall.
Dinner was ordered in last night. Just had a birria burrito with guacamole and a quesadilla. Sorry no pics...I know boooo
Current Dosing
Test E 50mg ED
Deca 100mg/week (For Joints)
GH 2iu ED (For Recovery)
Tren Ace 45mg ED
Proviron 50mg ED
Cardarine 20mg ED
Aromasin 6.25 E4D
Cialis 10mg ED (BP)
Low dose aspirin EOD (BP)
Blood Pressure - 128/62
AM Weigh-in - 203.4lbs
Sleep was subpar last night. I got woken up at 5:30 this morning by a customer calling with an emergency call. Had to get ready quick and head out to work early. Already had a full day planned so it was a long day. Luckily today was a programmed rest day so no training tonight. I'll try to sleep a bit earlier.
BP looks a bit more elevated than it should. Didn't have time to sit down and relax for a mine before taking the reading this morning. Just wanted to have a ballpark idea of where I'm at for reference.
Back training was great last night. Felt like I did a great job of targetting each area of the back I was trying to hit and my the end of the first 9 sets my was fully pumped and felt huge. Played around with the angles on my rack mounted preacher pad and found a new position that hits my biceps way harder. Very good session overall.
Dinner was ordered in last night. Just had a birria burrito with guacamole and a quesadilla. Sorry no pics...I know boooo
No I actually hadn't. Currently I'm taking 6g of pure Omega 3. I take my DHA in a separate supp. I can up it to 9g if that might help.
Naw I used the RP Hypertrophy app. Works really well and has lots of good templates for building training programs
I already said "I know...boooo" lolNice short, sweet update brother.......with no burrito or quesadilla pics
Hopefully in a week or two I'll have something really cool for the log. I splurged a bit and bought myself a couple new bars for the gym
I think it was called something like Black Bass or something.
yeah you would definitely be big if you did that.
Yep that's the one. Super black bass on super Nintendo. I had that game lol
Yep, would’ve been 95-98 for me. They were like that, but you didn’t necessarily need to “know someone” because there would be like many hundreds of people and you wouldn’t know where one stopped and another started and it all spilled out into the streets.
But there were small ones too of course. When I stayed near Denver and was revisiting my former life, we went to a secret show out in the mountains. It was awesome. Free drugs everywhere. Girls like whoa. This guy came up to me when the sun was still up and said “I want you to have this”. It was a crystal. He was a straight looking dude. Fast forward to the next day and a small mountain of molly later, my buddies and I are still soooooo high and lifting weights in the backyard and I’m like “oh yeah, this dude gave me a thing!” And I pulled it out of my pocket and it was a fouled spark plug. Not a crystal. Couple weeks later I was working in my sisters boyfriend’s chop shop waiting for my next court case hahaha
Yeah my life was pretty fouled there for a minute. Worked out good though. It’s a lot easier to move forward when you leave everything behindA fuckin spark plug.
you should have played goalie too just for the experience
bros back in the day we would run tren 400mgs. but i like 250-300 area
I would think you'd be a good soccer player just with your attitude and your physique.
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can you add walnuts? @BeMe
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steady today a bit high on weight
but goodyes seems bad sleep but you'll get a nap today?
yes I do see that probably AM customer call
perfect to see you really pump the back
squeeze it hardits nice
i like the high protein beef burrito bowls, just watch the sodium
LMAO!!! I wonder if you two were having the same vision and he thought he gave you a giant crystal too?
I loved the story but the ending was kinda sad. I thought the hero is supposed to prevail? Did you beat the case atleast?
