Approved Log Training Diet Cycle Log

[KamikazeChaos]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

 

[KamikazeChaos]

I should add bother the last 2 dinner/supper meals are either 300g or chicken breast or 250g of beef mince.
Also forgot to edit I eat beetroot with every salad and I take a multivitamin, along with yakult and sauerkraut every day

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Keep it simple. You do not need all those drugs
You only need to use enough testosterone to keep estrogen in normal range. You take a huge dose of testosterone than have to take another drug to control estrogen.

Testosterone and anavar only for cycle
While your testosterone is clearing
Run hcg
Let hcg clear
Now you are ready for pct with clomid

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Okay and don’t worry about an A.I.? Or cabergoline? Cabers been shown to be very successful at lowering prolactin levels and improving psychoegenic erectile dysfunction

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Keep it simple. You do not need all those drugs
You only need to use enough testosterone to keep estrogen in normal range. You take a huge dose of testosterone than have to take another drug to control estrogen.

Testosterone and anavar only for cycle
While your testosterone is clearing
Run hcg
Let hcg clear
Now you are ready for pct with clomid

Okay so how would I go about the hcg? Would that be used after my last pin of test or after my last anavar? My pan was to run the anavar 2 week past the test because anavar leaves the body somewhat quickly so within the 2 weeks of stopping the test I could continue with anavar for 2 weeks and 2.5 weeks I could start pct.
So how would I go about incorporating the hcg? Would I used that after the anavar? And for how long before starting the pct of clomid and nolvadex? I heard you mention prior that nolvadex isn’t needed but I have it anyway. I’ve read that it can be utilised during the cycle? What’s your thoughts on using either during the cycle or during the pct? There is also conflicting information about using hcg. My understanding was the hcg was used during the cycle to keep your testes working and preventing hypogonadism, but the hcg would create estrogenic side effects so that would need an a.I. To control the estrogen.
So much contradicts itself and everyone has their own bro science view on things. It’s hard to figure which direction to follow

 

[Allupfromhere]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

Alright my bro lets break this down with ya.
Im gonna give it to you honest so you get a proper understanding of what you should be looking to do, not what you feel you want to do...

Reality is you fucked around too much in early years with gear, not talkin about the shard n that thats your business and past to move on from, well done there and trust me i know what its like.

Im talking you fucked around with anabolics too many times because your didnt know what you were doing and they we more detrimental to you then they were productive.
Leaving you with some of issues your dealing with now with nuts and tackle bruz.

Let have a look at your meds.

Clonidine, is your blood pressure fucked or was this for when you were coming off gear?

Bupropion, i can guess already why they gave you this.

Diets isnt too bad relative to a fat loss phase but would like to see the full macros if you track them. If not jump onto an app like chronometer. Track everything, electrolytes too brother.

Now for Ped's.

First things first, whats your life plans bro? You looking to settle down, have some kids? You got kids already? Need to decide if you want to go down the route of trt or you want to come off between cycles.

My blanket suggestion here to start with though is.. now is definitely not the time to start blasting gear at all. It is only going to create problems for you then fix them.

Lets cut down, get all blood work spot on and get you lean and ready to run a good cycle moving foward and once you have more access to a broader range of equipment.

If trt is something your considering great, if not we can structure to that as well.

But low dose test, like trt dose. What gets your e2 levels to the higher end of 'in' range and let use a glp like reta starting at 1mg to help with hunger cravings, fat loss, and insulin sensitivity.
We dont need anything else here that will simply only complicate everything else.

Start at
150mg test e weekly And pull bloods after 4 weeks.
1mg Retatrutide weekly also.

Track everything you eat and eat the same shit everyday for 2 weeks so we can see exactly if your dropping weight too fast/too slow. We can then see where your energy levels peak and trough throughout the day and move carbohydrate timing/quantity to suit.

So we can get some idea, lets start with.
250 protein
250 carbs
60 fats

Keep doing what your doing exercise wise if you cant get to the gym, focus on making sure your getting a minimum of 10k steps in daily.

The first to weeks is super important to maintain strict structure so we can paint a clear accurate picture of where your maintanence calories actually sit.

You have come to the right place brother, truely. You will get all the support you need here. What you put in is what you get back im a big believer in this.

Welcome to Evo brother.

 

[Shakey]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

Nice start to your log bro.

I agree with @jerseyshoremuscles to keep the cycle simple, but @Allupfromhere is right. You should first run a GLP to cut body fat first. Its the exact same advice i took when i started on EVO. Retatrutide will give to the edge you need to cut.

This cut will also give the brothers time to help you dial in and plan a cycle in the future.

As for hcg, running it for 4-6 weeks pre-pct will help jump start your boys. Though since youve mentioned shrunken testes, running hcg on cycle might be better for you. Although it gets your nuts producing test, some does aromatize to estrogen.

Having an a.i. on hand and blood work to check your e2 levels is needed for any cycle, even without hcg.

Those random cycles from your earlier years probably caused the issues your having now. Cut first with a GLP and give your EVO brothers time to help get you sorted bro.

Also check out MyFitnessPal to help you track macros and exercise.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

The clonidine is for cravings and impulse control, the bupropion was first prescribed for smoking cesssation but after I started taking it and looked into it I seen it wasn ndri(and with 14 years of goey abuse I could see where it would help) so when I seen my doctor and spoke to him he suggested to up the dose to 2 150mg tablets morning and night.
Alright tomoro I’ll dial in and start clicking calories and macros, not sure how I would count electrolytes or micros tho?
In terms of the reta…I generally can lose weight pretty quickly, like if I cut carbs entirely (less than 50g a day) and hit 150-200g of protein I know I could slim down to 95 within a month. So not sure if Reta is needed but you’re the one here with the knowledge of course I’m just speaking subjectively for myself.
Would I need to get an estrogen test prior to starting the low dose test? I’m not even sure if my bulk billing doctor can request that. (Most likely he can) although he did refer me to an endocrinologist for further testing.
In terms of my goals, I don’t really want to be on trt forever, but I do like doing cycles here and there and in terms of kids, I haven’t ven slept with a women worthy of having children with in half a decade lol. But I would still like that option for the future. So my ultimate plan is to get my markers in range and then further learn how to do maybe another 4-5 even 6 more cycles throughout my life. It’s not something I want to bro doing forever. But we’ll see about that. But I do know I want the option of being about to jump on and perhaps go 6-12 months or longer in between using gear.
And in terms of macros I don’t think I’m even hitting 250g of protein or 250g of carbs a day as it is. I think I’ve fucked metabolic rate and probably consume too many calories in liquid form(still drink beer 4-5 times a week).
Personally I don’t think I would need to use a glp, but I will be honest I don’t know a whole lot about them.
So is your suggestion lose the weight first get hormone levels in check then start the Reta and low dose test or use the low dose test and Reta to lose the weight and get my hormone levels back up?

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Nice start to your log bro.

I agree with @jerseyshoremuscles to keep the cycle simple, but @Allupfromhere is right. You should first run a GLP to cut body fat first. Its the exact same advice i took when i started on EVO. Retatrutide will give to the edge you need to cut.

This cut will also give the brothers time to help you dial in and plan a cycle in the future.

As for hcg, running it for 4-6 weeks pre-pct will help jump start your boys. Though since youve mentioned shrunken testes, running hcg on cycle might be better for you. Although it gets your nuts producing test, some does aromatize to estrogen.

Having an a.i. on hand and blood work to check your e2 levels is needed for any cycle, even without hcg.

Those random cycles from your earlier years probably caused the issues your having now. Cut first with a GLP and give your EVO brothers time to help get you sorted bro.

Also check out MyFitnessPal to help you track macros and exercise.

Alright if Reta is what you guys highly recommend I’ll jump on it. One other problem is I’m subject to urinalysis for community corrections…I know for hormones like test and anavar etc they need to specifically request the pathology to test for them would that be the same with Reta and a.I’s and hcg?

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Sorry if all these questions seem so dumb, like I thought I had a basic understanding of it all but that’s proven wrong lol. Well I mean I probably know a bit more than the average person who doesn’t do any lifting at all. But I don’t come close to the knowledge you guys have. It’s much appreciated

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

I know all about prolactin issues. I refuse to use caber. Deca gives me prolactin issues when I go over 100mg a wk. I lowered my deca dose to 80mg a wk and my prolactin gyno went away.

I keep the mg s as low as possible to use the least amount of ancillarirs

Start the hcg after your last test shot while running anavar stay on anavat till test and hcg clear than pct

 

[Shakey]

The clonidine is for cravings and impulse control, the bupropion was first prescribed for smoking cesssation but after I started taking it and looked into it I seen it wasn ndri(and with 14 years of goey abuse I could see where it would help) so when I seen my doctor and spoke to him he suggested to up the dose to 2 150mg tablets morning and night.
Alright tomoro I’ll dial in and start clicking calories and macros, not sure how I would count electrolytes or micros tho?
In terms of the reta…I generally can lose weight pretty quickly, like if I cut carbs entirely (less than 50g a day) and hit 150-200g of protein I know I could slim down to 95 within a month. So not sure if Reta is needed but you’re the one here with the knowledge of course I’m just speaking subjectively for myself.
Would I need to get an estrogen test prior to starting the low dose test? I’m not even sure if my bulk billing doctor can request that. (Most likely he can) although he did refer me to an endocrinologist for further testing.
In terms of my goals, I don’t really want to be on trt forever, but I do like doing cycles here and there and in terms of kids, I haven’t ven slept with a women worthy of having children with in half a decade lol. But I would still like that option for the future. So my ultimate plan is to get my markers in range and then further learn how to do maybe another 4-5 even 6 more cycles throughout my life. It’s not something I want to bro doing forever. But we’ll see about that. But I do know I want the option of being about to jump on and perhaps go 6-12 months or longer in between using gear.
And in terms of macros I don’t think I’m even hitting 250g of protein or 250g of carbs a day as it is. I think I’ve fucked metabolic rate and probably consume too many calories in liquid form(still drink beer 4-5 times a week).
Personally I don’t think I would need to use a glp, but I will be honest I don’t know a whole lot about them.
So is your suggestion lose the weight first get hormone levels in check then start the Reta and low dose test or use the low dose test and Reta to lose the weight and get my hormone levels back up?

You would take reta to help you cut weight. It also curbs appetite as well. Ive actually heard some people say GLP's helped them with drinking and either slowed down or quit altogether. As for trt, when was your most recent bloods done? Can you post them with the personal info redacted?

If you have recent bloods with low test, you can start trt at 150mg weekly. If its just trt levels of test, you probably wont need your e2 test. But if you plan yo cycle your baseline blood work should include e2.

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

I never used reta but I have used tirzepatide.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

You would take reta to help you cut weight. It also curbs appetite as well. Ive actually heard some people say GLP's helped them with drinking and either slowed down or quit altogether. As for trt, when was your most recent bloods done? Can you post them with the personal info redacted?

If you have recent bloods with low test, you can start trt at 150mg weekly. If its just trt levels of test, you probably wont need your e2 test. But if you plan yo cycle your baseline blood work should include e2.

Yeah I will post a pic of them, think they were tested either before Christmas or just after. Only about 8-10 weeks ago.
So if I were to start on a trt dose with the reta can we somehow manage to stabilise things to do a proper cycle in the coming weeks/months and do pct and come off entirely? Then however long maybe 6-12 months later decide to do another cycle properly?

 

[Allupfromhere]

Personally I don’t think I would need to use a glp, but I will be honest I don’t know a whole lot about them.
So is your suggestion lose the weight first get hormone levels in check then start the Reta and low dose test or use the low dose test and Reta to lose the weight and get my hormone levels back up?

Dont think of the glp, especially reta, simply as a fat loss tool.

Reta isn’t just a fat loss drug, it just gets labelled that way because that’s the most obvious outcome.

What it’s actually doing is working on multiple pathways at once glp1, gip, glucagon, so you’re not just eating less… you’re also changing how your body partitions nutrients and manages energy.

You get appetite suppression, sure, but you also tend to see better insulin sensitivity, more stable blood glucose, and in a lot of cases improved nutrient utilisation. That matters just as much for physique outcomes as the calorie deficit itself.

The glucagon side is also a big piece people overlook. That’s where some of the increased energy expenditure comes in, not just “I’m eating less so I’m losing weight.” It can actively push energy turnover higher.

So in a bodybuilding context, it’s not just a fat loss phase tool. It can be useful for improving food control, tightening up insulin response, and potentially helping keep body fat in check while pushing food higher to gain macro and micronutrient intake.

As for the last question, correct im saying use low dose teat and reta to lose the weight and keep hormones where they need to be so you not a wet noodle at the end from fast, starvation style fat loss which most of the times leaves your hormones and metabolic capacity in the gutter.
 

I’ve fucked metabolic rate and probably consume too many calories in liquid form(still drink beer 4-5 times a week).

This will be a major player in holding you back.

Alcohol isn’t just “extra calories” bro, it literally shuts fat loss off.

Your body treats it like poison, drops everything to burn it first, fat burning = zero while it’s in your system.

Then you stack:
High calories
Lower testosterone
Worse sleep
More hunger + shit food choices

Makes you more insulin resistant.

Add in poor sleep and higher cortisol and now your body is even worse at handling carbs.

So instead of carbs going to muscle… they’re way more likely to get stored.

Bottom line, Alcohol makes your body worse at using carbs properly and better at storing fat.

You can get lean or you can drink hard
Trying to do both doesnt work

And in terms of macros I don’t think I’m even hitting 250g of protein or 250g of carbs a day as it is.

We need to get you metabolically efficient again. Your body need a particular amount of protien and fats for muscle repair and development and we shift carbs to suit current goals.

Alright if Reta is what you guys highly recommend I’ll jump on it. One other problem is I’m subject to urinalysis for community corrections…I know for hormones like test and anavar etc they need to specifically request the pathology to test for them would that be the same with Reta and a.I’s and hcg?

Nope will no give any detrimental reading whatsoever. A.i also no and hcg only immitates luteinizing hormone. You dont need this if your on testosterone. Nothing more then a waste of money unless your trying to have kids at that specific point in time.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Test and shbg

 

[Shakey]

Yeah I will post a pic of them, think they were tested either before Christmas or just after. Only about 8-10 weeks ago.
So if I were to start on a trt dose with the reta can we somehow manage to stabilise things to do a proper cycle in the coming weeks/months and do pct and come off entirely? Then however long maybe 6-12 months later decide to do another cycle properly?

Thats actually what i just did, got baseline bloods, test was low so i went straight to trt pre-cycle to finish my cut before going on cycle. Ill pct after cycle with no trt after.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Dont think of the glp, especially reta, simply as a fat loss tool.

Reta isn’t just a fat loss drug, it just gets labelled that way because that’s the most obvious outcome.

What it’s actually doing is working on multiple pathways at once glp1, gip, glucagon, so you’re not just eating less… you’re also changing how your body partitions nutrients and manages energy.

You get appetite suppression, sure, but you also tend to see better insulin sensitivity, more stable blood glucose, and in a lot of cases improved nutrient utilisation. That matters just as much for physique outcomes as the calorie deficit itself.

The glucagon side is also a big piece people overlook. That’s where some of the increased energy expenditure comes in, not just “I’m eating less so I’m losing weight.” It can actively push energy turnover higher.

So in a bodybuilding context, it’s not just a fat loss phase tool. It can be useful for improving food control, tightening up insulin response, and potentially helping keep body fat in check while pushing food higher to gain macro and micronutrient intake.

As for the last question, correct im saying use low dose teat and reta to lose the weight and keep hormones where they need to be so you not a wet noodle at the end from fast, starvation style fat loss which most of the times leaves your hormones and metabolic capacity in the gutter.
 

This will be a major player in holding you back.

Alcohol isn’t just “extra calories” bro, it literally shuts fat loss off.

Your body treats it like poison, drops everything to burn it first, fat burning = zero while it’s in your system.

Then you stack:
High calories
Lower testosterone
Worse sleep
More hunger + shit food choices

Makes you more insulin resistant.

Add in poor sleep and higher cortisol and now your body is even worse at handling carbs.

So instead of carbs going to muscle… they’re way more likely to get stored.

Bottom line, Alcohol makes your body worse at using carbs properly and better at storing fat.

You can get lean or you can drink hard
Trying to do both doesnt work

We need to get you metabolically efficient again. Your body need a particular amount of protien and fats for muscle repair and development and we shift carbs to suit current goals.


Nope will no give any detrimental reading whatsoever. A.i also no and hcg only immitates luteinizing hormone. You dont need this if your on testosterone. Nothing more then a waste of money unless your trying to have kids at that specific point in time.

Oath! That sounds like a solid plan, that’s probably where I went wrong on my last cycle of test and anavar, I was in a state of ketosis, while going on benders of alcohol and shard and taking clen, i looked insane tho not gonna lie, bit of mt2 aswell and just put to much strain on my body I think. It was pretty much that last cycle which made things “switch off”

 

[Allupfromhere]

Oath! That sounds like a solid plan, that’s probably where I went wrong on my last cycle of test and anavar, I was in a state of ketosis, while going on benders of alcohol and shard and taking clen, i looked insane tho not gonna lie, bit of mt2 aswell and just put to much strain on my body I think. It was pretty much that last cycle which made things “switch off”

Only so far we can push things until they push back bruz, smashing piss, puff and clen just rotting ya from the inside out.
But you past that kind of thinking now and now is the time to get things right.

Trust me when i say the fast results you want come from ticking all the boxes. Not from abusing compounds.

Not sure where everthing is at currently for ya bro but i understand it is sticky to change the way we think after being addicts.

More gear is not better for this lifestyle, more consistency and execution of a proper set out plan is what we look towards.

I wanna see you kill this run mate so we can move onto a solid proper cycle and get you jacked. But we gotta fix everything first.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Only so far we can push things until they push back bruz, smashing piss, puff and clen just rotting ya from the inside out.
But you past that kind of thinking now and now is the time to get things right.

Trust me when i say the fast results you want come from ticking all the boxes. Not from abusing compounds.

Not sure where everthing is at currently for ya bro but i understand it is sticky to change the way we think after being addicts.

More gear is not better for this lifestyle, more consistency and execution of a proper set out plan is what we look towards.

I wanna see you kill this run mate so we can move onto a solid proper cycle and get you jacked. But we gotta fix everything first.

Yeah brother I’m pumped to get back in the zone, I felt a lot of shame after and during the whole rehab thing and having to move back in with family, but in reality it’s probably the best place to make use and utilise what I have.
I think keeping active on this site/forum is going to be the game changer for me, there’s a lot of accountability for me to take on, especially after all of your guys effort and knowledge that you’ve shared with me. So yeah man I’m gonna smash this.
Wild you suggest to start the low dose test this week and wait for the Reta or start the test once I’ve gotten the Reta?

 

[Allupfromhere]

Yeah brother I’m pumped to get back in the zone, I felt a lot of shame after and during the whole rehab thing and having to move back in with family, but in reality it’s probably the best place to make use and utilise what I have.
I think keeping active on this site/forum is going to be the game changer for me, there’s a lot of accountability for me to take on, especially after all of your guys effort and knowledge that you’ve shared with me. So yeah man I’m gonna smash this.
Wild you suggest to start the low dose test this week and wait for the Reta or start the test once I’ve gotten the Reta?

Bro dont ever feel any fucking shame for getting your shit back together, no matter how you had to do it.
Sorting your life out and fucking off all that other shit is where your strength first starts to return, so feel proud.

Start the test right now if you want brother all good and throw in the reta when you get it.
This whole reset is smooth and steady. Calculated and logical decisions never emotional.

Ill ride this whole run out with ya bro so lean into that support. Flood any questions you have and let get you sorted.

 

[Shakey]

Yeah brother I’m pumped to get back in the zone, I felt a lot of shame after and during the whole rehab thing and having to move back in with family, but in reality it’s probably the best place to make use and utilise what I have.
I think keeping active on this site/forum is going to be the game changer for me, there’s a lot of accountability for me to take on, especially after all of your guys effort and knowledge that you’ve shared with me. So yeah man I’m gonna smash this.
Wild you suggest to start the low dose test this week and wait for the Reta or start the test once I’ve gotten the Reta?

@Allupfromhere is right, never feel shame for improving youself. Only ever feel proud, walk with your chest out and chin up.

Start the trt now, add reta when it comes in.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Brothers you’re all solid hey, much love and respect I’ll pin first thing in the morning and start tracking macros, I’ll get that fitness app aswell. It’s not like I’m working at the moment and I’m living in the hills, I’ll just start walking and jogging, doing calisthenics and free weights. I’ll just need to suss @Raptor Labs out if he sells Reta.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Anyway fellas I’m gonna hit the hay, but you’ll see me posting in the morning. Peace out

 

[LevButlerov]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

I should add bother the last 2 dinner/supper meals are either 300g or chicken breast or 250g of beef mince.
Also forgot to edit I eat beetroot with every salad and I take a multivitamin, along with yakult and sauerkraut every day

Okay and don’t worry about an A.I.? Or cabergoline? Cabers been shown to be very successful at lowering prolactin levels and improving psychoegenic erectile dysfunction

Test and shbg

welcome fully to the EVO family @KamikazeChaos thank you for sharing.

You've had a difficult life and thank you for coming to share it with us. EVO family supports you!

The gear you have on hand, what brands are those? can you clarify and are they from approved suppliers?

Seeing your blood work, we do need to get you on TRT but slowly.


Please share more day to day information with us. Try tracking food you have and we can work on top of it.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

 

[stevesmi]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

@KamikazeChaos you've been through a lot man but don't worry. A lot of guys on here have similar stories. You should listen to some of the podcasts we've done on the interviews.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

welcome fully to the EVO family @KamikazeChaos thank you for sharing.

You've had a difficult life and thank you for coming to share it with us. EVO family supports you!

The gear you have on hand, what brands are those? can you clarify and are they from approved suppliers?

Seeing your blood work, we do need to get you on TRT but slowly.


Please share more day to day information with us. Try tracking food you have and we can work on top of it.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

Yeah man I’ve just started clocking everything eat this morning in notes.
All of my gear is from @Raptor Labs
I just did pinned my first trt dose this morning as the other fellas recommended to jump on and get the ball rolling. Was a little hard dosing it cause I’ve got test e 400, and I’m using 3ml barrels, so I think I injected closer to 110mg. I made sure to put about 10-15 units of air in the syringe to clear the entire plunger and needle. I’m either going to ring up some pharmacies to try and get 1ml leur lock syringes or might have to go into the city and swing past a syringe exchange just so it’s easier to dose.
Would you be able to use a 29gauge insulin syringe or would it be too small to draw up the oil. As far as I know about insulin fits of the viscosity is to high there not much luck drawing up.
The guys did say to do 150mg a week, so definitely going to need to get some 1mls to be able to dose that small, cause that would be like 15-20 units to make up 75mg and I’d pin that twice a week. Would using 200mg be safe? Just cause like I said it’s hard trying to dose with the test 400

 

[KamikazeChaos]

@KamikazeChaos you've been through a lot man but don't worry. A lot of guys on here have similar stories. You should listen to some of the podcasts we've done on the interviews.

Where would I find the podcasts man?

 

[stevesmi]

Where would I find the podcasts man?

On the top you'll see tabs going across the page and you'll see the podcast tab. There are also tabs for other things as well, including some really good articles.
Anyway here is the link below and we've seen many guys talking about these types of things and their logs as well that we've interviewed.
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah man I’ve just started clocking everything eat this morning in notes.
All of my gear is from @Raptor Labs
I just did pinned my first trt dose this morning as the other fellas recommended to jump on and get the ball rolling. Was a little hard dosing it cause I’ve got test e 400, and I’m using 3ml barrels, so I think I injected closer to 110mg. I made sure to put about 10-15 units of air in the syringe to clear the entire plunger and needle. I’m either going to ring up some pharmacies to try and get 1ml leur lock syringes or might have to go into the city and swing past a syringe exchange just so it’s easier to dose.
Would you be able to use a 29gauge insulin syringe or would it be too small to draw up the oil. As far as I know about insulin fits of the viscosity is to high there not much luck drawing up.
The guys did say to do 150mg a week, so definitely going to need to get some 1mls to be able to dose that small, cause that would be like 15-20 units to make up 75mg and I’d pin that twice a week. Would using 200mg be safe? Just cause like I said it’s hard trying to dose with the test 400

what dose of TRT did you pin? 150? @KamikazeChaos
please dont use anything besides testosterone to start off

and please post some Team Raptor Gear pics

 

[ROIDDERS]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

I will focus specifically on your training. I like how you're implementing some total body workouts. I like push-ups and chin-ups. I mean those two things alone, you can get a great workout from. @KamikazeChaos

 

[KamikazeChaos]

what dose of TRT did you pin? 150? @KamikazeChaos
please dont use anything besides testosterone to start off

and please post some Team Raptor Gear pics

I did about 110mg, it was about 25-30 units. Was a bit hard to gage with a 3ml syringe. I’m planning on splitting my doses to twice a week. Tomorrow I’ll pick up some 1ml barrels. So I can evenly do 75mg twice a week.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

I will focus specifically on your training. I like how you're implementing some total body workouts. I like push-ups and chin-ups. I mean those two things alone, you can get a great workout from. @KamikazeChaos

Yeah I always thought calisthenics was garbage until a few years ago and started utilising them with free weights

 

[KamikazeChaos]

what dose of TRT did you pin? 150? @KamikazeChaos
please dont use anything besides testosterone to start off

and please post some Team Raptor Gear pics

And nah im not going to touch anything besides the test. And then with how things progress I’ll let you guys guide me for what to start adding into my regiment once you guys get a full picture of my training and diet

 

[KamikazeChaos]

@Raptor Labs

 

[2Thick]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

What's in the past is in the past man. We can't dwell on it. Let's push forward. @KamikazeChaos the main thing I want to see from you is getting leaner. That's going to be crucial.

 

[Shakey]

Yeah man I’ve just started clocking everything eat this morning in notes.
All of my gear is from @Raptor Labs
I just did pinned my first trt dose this morning as the other fellas recommended to jump on and get the ball rolling. Was a little hard dosing it cause I’ve got test e 400, and I’m using 3ml barrels, so I think I injected closer to 110mg. I made sure to put about 10-15 units of air in the syringe to clear the entire plunger and needle. I’m either going to ring up some pharmacies to try and get 1ml leur lock syringes or might have to go into the city and swing past a syringe exchange just so it’s easier to dose.
Would you be able to use a 29gauge insulin syringe or would it be too small to draw up the oil. As far as I know about insulin fits of the viscosity is to high there not much luck drawing up.
The guys did say to do 150mg a week, so definitely going to need to get some 1mls to be able to dose that small, cause that would be like 15-20 units to make up 75mg and I’d pin that twice a week. Would using 200mg be safe? Just cause like I said it’s hard trying to dose with the test 400

I bet itd be a pain with a 3ml microdosing lol. I think 27g is the smallest you can go with oil, but its already slow as hell drawing with a 25g. If your not looking to have a seperate draw needle, then get 25g.

So to figure out your dose, you take your intended dose (75mg) and divide by the concentration per ml (400mg/ml) and thatll give you your ml to draw on the syringe body.

75÷400=0.1875ml so just a hair under 19 units for you twice a week.

Stick to the 150mg for now. Besides if your air locking like you described earlier (using an air bubble riding the plunger to clear the dead space in syringe) then your already turning your residual waste into an overdose.

So no need to aim higher until bloods are checked again in the future to see where your at.

And nah im not going to touch anything besides the test. And then with how things progress I’ll let you guys guide me for what to start adding into my regiment once you guys get a full picture of my training and diet

Good plan, dont forget to steall all the knowledge you you can from the EVO bros.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

yeah I accounted for the air, was just a little funny drawing up just 2 lines worth on a 3ml. Looked so small. So yeah I did about 3 lines or just under. So definitely did a little more than I should have. Once I get the 1ml barrels I can draw up 19units a lot easier. Just most chemists only sell 1ml syringes with fixed 29g needles. I used a 21gauge to draw up and a 23 gauge to inject. I’ll also get bloods done in 3-4 weeks to see where I’m sitting at

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Here’s my breakfast macros

 

[Shakey]

yeah I accounted for the air, was just a little funny drawing up just 2 lines worth on a 3ml. Looked so small. So yeah I did about 3 lines or just under. So definitely did a little more than I should have. Once I get the 1ml barrels I can draw up 19units a lot easier. Just most chemists only sell 1ml syringes with fixed 29g needles. I used a 21gauge to draw up and a 23 gauge to inject. I’ll also get bloods done in 3-4 weeks to see where I’m sitting at

Nice. Yea if you want precise dosing while air locking to clear the needle hub, you have to measure your one of your pins dead volume with water(i added food colouring). Basically draw in water to say 0.4ml, get all the air out of the syringe, youll probably depress the plunger to 0.2ml while doing that.

You now have 0.2ml of water measured on the barrel with the extra volume filling the dead space.hold needle verticl and draw air in. Any extra volume over 0.2ml total in the barrel is your dead volume.

You can now compensate for the dead volume for accurate dosing, or stick to just clearing your dead space with air. Depending on brand name or generic pins and your injection frequency/ injection volumes, the over dose can be larger than you think.

I buy my 25g generic luer locks of amazon. You can always try that instead of local chemists. Im cheap, i draw and inject with 25g. Lol

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Nice. Yea if you want precise dosing while air locking to clear the needle hub, you have to measure your one of your pins dead volume with water(i added food colouring). Basically draw in water to say 0.4ml, get all the air out of the syringe, youll probably depress the plunger to 0.2ml while doing that.

You now have 0.2ml of water measured on the barrel with the extra volume filling the dead space.hold needle verticl and draw air in. Any extra volume over 0.2ml total in the barrel is your dead volume.

You can now compensate for the dead volume for accurate dosing, or stick to just clearing your dead space with air. Depending on brand name or generic pins and your injection frequency/ injection volumes, the over dose can be larger than you think.

I buy my 25g generic luer locks of amazon. You can always try that instead of local chemists. Im cheap, i draw and inject with 25g. Lol

Yeah I was thinking of ordering them online, quicker and easier to go to a needle exchange tho.
Yeah to get the dosage I did this morning I sucked the oil with the syring vertically in the air with some air already in the syringe and the used gravity to let the oil settle at just under 3 lines from the half mil mark. So it was just under 3lines with just over 2 lines above the oil. So There was no residual oil left in the tip.

 

[Shakey]

Yeah I was thinking of ordering them online, quicker and easier to go to a needle exchange tho.
Yeah to get the dosage I did this morning I sucked the oil with the syring vertically in the air with some air already in the syringe and the used gravity to let the oil settle at just under 3 lines from the half mil mark. So it was just under 3lines with just over 2 lines above the oil. So There was no residual oil left in the tip.

Okay good. My generic 25g luer locks have absolutely disgusting dead space. 0.12ml was the largest, they avergaed at 0.11ml. My injection volume is only 0.215ml currently, and that was supposed to be 150mg weekly from a 200mg/ml vial.

Ended up at 234.5mg weekly because the dead space was so damn brutal. This pic was a pin drawn to 0.2ml after having all the air removed. Theres 0.12ml extra in syringe from the dead space with these shitty generics. Thats 0.05ml more than the international standard for 1ml syringes.

With airlocking it got me a 55% over dose. Lol. My trt+ is almost on cycle.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Okay good. My generic 25g luer locks have absolutely disgusting dead space. 0.12ml was the largest, they avergaed at 0.11ml. My injection volume is only 0.215ml currently, and that was supposed to be 150mg weekly from a 200mg/ml vial.

Ended up at 234.5mg weekly because the dead space was so damn brutal. This pic was a pin drawn to 0.2ml after having all the air removed. Theres 0.12ml extra in syringe from the dead space with these shitty generics. Thats 0.05ml more than the international standard for 1ml syringes.

With airlocking it got me a 55% over dose. Lol. My trt+ is almost on cycle.

Damn that sucks big time, and that was just from what was left in the actual needle tip? Not the plunger. Geez

 

[KamikazeChaos]

I’ve got a similar 1 mil syringe like yours for my cannabis oil. It is good to get every drop out the plunger but yeah as stated still ends up stuck in the needle tip. I think once I get the new 1mls with leur lock I’ll still throw 5-10 units in there just to accurately dose what I’m taking and have an accurate amount in my vials

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Okay good. My generic 25g luer locks have absolutely disgusting dead space. 0.12ml was the largest, they avergaed at 0.11ml. My injection volume is only 0.215ml currently, and that was supposed to be 150mg weekly from a 200mg/ml vial.

Ended up at 234.5mg weekly because the dead space was so damn brutal. This pic was a pin drawn to 0.2ml after having all the air removed. Theres 0.12ml extra in syringe from the dead space with these shitty generics. Thats 0.05ml more than the international standard for 1ml syringes.

With airlocking it got me a 55% over dose. Lol. My trt+ is almost on cycle.

Also what sort of rise in testosterone should one expect on 150mg a week?
Like I’m at 289 now(was 8th of January I got tested).
What does yours generally reach on a trt dose?

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Okay good. My generic 25g luer locks have absolutely disgusting dead space. 0.12ml was the largest, they avergaed at 0.11ml. My injection volume is only 0.215ml currently, and that was supposed to be 150mg weekly from a 200mg/ml vial.

Ended up at 234.5mg weekly because the dead space was so damn brutal. This pic was a pin drawn to 0.2ml after having all the air removed. Theres 0.12ml extra in syringe from the dead space with these shitty generics. Thats 0.05ml more than the international standard for 1ml syringes.

With airlocking it got me a 55% over dose. Lol. My trt+ is almost on cycle.

And yeah haha in terms of branding I don’t think you can beat BD or terumo syringes(trust I’ve got 14 years of experience in that field)

 

[Shakey]

Damn that sucks big time, and that was just from what was left in the actual needle tip? Not the plunger. Geez

Now that was both combined. 25g needle hub was 0.08ml and syringe barrel was 0.04ml. Total of 0.12ml. It only sucks if your not air locking to clear the dead space to inject all drawn compound. If your not, you just discard the waste with needle.

Theres 2 deadspaces in a detachable needle style.

1.needle hub
2.syringe barrel tip

Depending on plunger style barrel tip, deadspace can be small or large but most 1mls use the same design now. The 3ml plungers have more dead space as they dobt reach into the barrel tip as far.

I chose to just keep the same overdose because the plan was to go on cycle soon, but its turned into a rehab cycle cause i got a grade 2 lat tear.

I’ve got a similar 1 mil syringe like yours for my cannabis oil. It is good to get every drop out the plunger but yeah as stated still ends up stuck in the needle tip. I think once I get the new 1mls with leur lock I’ll still throw 5-10 units in there just to accurately dose what I’m taking and have an accurate amount in my vials

Do you mean throw in extra 5-10? If your air locking to inject even the dead volume, your already over intended dose. So extra 5-10 isnt needed. I wouldnt change your dosing up so you have have accurate vial content, dose matters way more.

Also what sort of rise in testosterone should one expect on 150mg a week?
Like I’m at 289 now(was 8th of January I got tested).
What does yours generally reach on a trt dose?

its different for everyone, i havent got my trt blood done. I got my pre-cycle bloods and test was low so im running trt til i start my now rehab cycle, ill do bloods at 3 or 4weeks probably. Ive only been on trt for 4 weeks. Im only bumping to 250mg (with dead space compensated for accuracy) as any more and ill misjudge my recovery.

And yeah haha in terms of branding I don’t think you can beat BD or terumo syringes(trust I’ve got 14 years of experience in that field)

Im actually writing an article for the community research section on dead space, i have lab measure dead spaces for multiple brands, with BD being one of them. They did have good tolerances. Lol

The lat tears taken finishing the article off my plate for now tho.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Now that was both combined. 25g needle hub was 0.08ml and syringe barrel was 0.04ml. Total of 0.12ml. It only sucks if your not air locking to clear the dead space to inject all drawn compound. If your not, you just discard the waste with needle.

Theres 2 deadspaces in a detachable needle style.

1.needle hub
2.syringe barrel tip

Depending on plunger style barrel tip, deadspace can be small or large but most 1mls use the same design now. The 3ml plungers have more dead space as they dobt reach into the barrel tip as far.

I chose to just keep the same overdose because the plan was to go on cycle soon, but its turned into a rehab cycle cause i got a grade 2 lat tear.


Do you mean throw in extra 5-10? If your air locking to inject even the dead volume, your already over intended dose. So extra 5-10 isnt needed. I wouldnt change your dosing up so you have have accurate vial content, dose matters way more.

its different for everyone, i havent got my trt blood done. I got my pre-cycle bloods and test was low so im running trt til i start my now rehab cycle, ill do bloods at 3 or 4weeks probably. Ive only been on trt for 4 weeks. Im only bumping to 250mg (with dead space compensated for accuracy) as any more and ill misjudge my recovery.

Im actually writing an article for the community research section on dead space, i have lab measure dead spaces for multiple brands, with BD being one of them. They did have good tolerances. Lol

The lat tears taken finishing the article off my plate for now tho.

Okay so with the dead space I’m a bit confused now…if I suck up exactly 20 unites and vertically measure it with a “gravity drop”(where you hold your needle upright and sort of drop it in a fast motion(obviously don’t drop it on the floor, keep ahold of it lol) to bring all the air above the oil/gear and it reads 20. Then that’s exactly how much is in the fit…so any amount of air that’s added shouldn’t make any difference on the amount of oil…from my understanding right? As long as you’re adding enough air in to clear the tip of the needle and the plunger right? I’ve got a lot of experience in this field of things. Mixing up and using needles I mean. (Not bragging in anyway, just clarifying I am 100% confident in using fits)

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Now that was both combined. 25g needle hub was 0.08ml and syringe barrel was 0.04ml. Total of 0.12ml. It only sucks if your not air locking to clear the dead space to inject all drawn compound. If your not, you just discard the waste with needle.

Theres 2 deadspaces in a detachable needle style.

1.needle hub
2.syringe barrel tip

Depending on plunger style barrel tip, deadspace can be small or large but most 1mls use the same design now. The 3ml plungers have more dead space as they dobt reach into the barrel tip as far.

I chose to just keep the same overdose because the plan was to go on cycle soon, but its turned into a rehab cycle cause i got a grade 2 lat tear.


Do you mean throw in extra 5-10? If your air locking to inject even the dead volume, your already over intended dose. So extra 5-10 isnt needed. I wouldnt change your dosing up so you have have accurate vial content, dose matters way more.

its different for everyone, i havent got my trt blood done. I got my pre-cycle bloods and test was low so im running trt til i start my now rehab cycle, ill do bloods at 3 or 4weeks probably. Ive only been on trt for 4 weeks. Im only bumping to 250mg (with dead space compensated for accuracy) as any more and ill misjudge my recovery.

Im actually writing an article for the community research section on dead space, i have lab measure dead spaces for multiple brands, with BD being one of them. They did have good tolerances. Lol

The lat tears taken finishing the article off my plate for now tho.

Send me the link of that article once you’ve published it

 

[HarleyGuy]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

Welcome to evo my fellow warrior of life and of addiction!

It's amazing to have you here bro and I read every single word of your log so far. I'm really proud of the honesty and openness I see here especially regarding your story and your past including your current situation.

The other mods and amazing members on here have clearly got you taken care of along the lines of your PEDs, diet and training and you're in good hands bro trust me.

Where I can come in, if I may, is I can comment on the drugs, alcohol and cannabis usage if you're open to that and let you know what I can offer. First of all, that took a lot of courage and strength to get off the Tina (what we call meth here); that was a hell of a rough start to life you had to endure and it's great to see you in recovery from that. I sponsor a few members on here and help them out with their sobriety be it meth, cocaine, opiates, alcohol or any drug and for some it's psychological help only for those who struggle with PTSD or O/S like I do either during addiction or in recovery.

We have a different type of log anyone can start called a 'journal' (ie: "My recovery from Opiates journal", just for example) where you can post any amount of updates you're comfortable with, days sober, what you used that day (if anything), or just how you're feeling about what you're using/drinking whether it be that you feel it's too much or it's nothing at all and just having a shitty day or even a great day! Some journals just end and some keep going, like any addict or user knows that's the yo-yo of it until we are recovered.

If you're content with where you're at then all is well my brother and let's stick to some serious training, diet and cycling. If there's anything along those lines about usage of anything (alcohol, drugs) you want help with or want to work on then you can either DM me and we can keep it anonymous between us or you can post a journal too. Whether I hear from you or not about this is totally up to you and EVO is entirely judgment-free. You seem to be in a good place brother so no pressure at all just know I'm here for that part if you need.

I've been sober and free of any non Rx mood-altering substances for almost 5 years and I still talk to my sponsor once a week even if it's just a quick text.

Super happy to have you here brother and I'll be following this log with a lot of enthusiasm! I love success stories and you are one of them already!!

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Now that was both combined. 25g needle hub was 0.08ml and syringe barrel was 0.04ml. Total of 0.12ml. It only sucks if your not air locking to clear the dead space to inject all drawn compound. If your not, you just discard the waste with needle.

Theres 2 deadspaces in a detachable needle style.

1.needle hub
2.syringe barrel tip

Depending on plunger style barrel tip, deadspace can be small or large but most 1mls use the same design now. The 3ml plungers have more dead space as they dobt reach into the barrel tip as far.

I chose to just keep the same overdose because the plan was to go on cycle soon, but its turned into a rehab cycle cause i got a grade 2 lat tear.


Do you mean throw in extra 5-10? If your air locking to inject even the dead volume, your already over intended dose. So extra 5-10 isnt needed. I wouldnt change your dosing up so you have have accurate vial content, dose matters way more.

its different for everyone, i havent got my trt blood done. I got my pre-cycle bloods and test was low so im running trt til i start my now rehab cycle, ill do bloods at 3 or 4weeks probably. Ive only been on trt for 4 weeks. Im only bumping to 250mg (with dead space compensated for accuracy) as any more and ill misjudge my recovery.

Im actually writing an article for the community research section on dead space, i have lab measure dead spaces for multiple brands, with BD being one of them. They did have good tolerances. Lol

The lat tears taken finishing the article off my plate for now tho.

Oh and also just reading back on this I meant units of air. To throw in an extra 5-10 units of air in to clear the needle tip. Shit that was my bad I didn’t read it properly

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Welcome to evo my fellow warrior of life and of addiction!

It's amazing to have you here bro and I read every single word of your log so far. I'm really proud of the honesty and openness I see here especially regarding your story and your past including your current situation.

The other mods and amazing members on here have clearly got you taken care of along the lines of your PEDs, diet and training and you're in good hands bro trust me.

Where I can come in, if I may, is I can comment on the drugs, alcohol and cannabis usage if you're open to that and let you know what I can offer. First of all, that took a lot of courage and strength to get off the Tina (what we call meth here); that was a hell of a rough start to life you had to endure and it's great to see you in recovery from that. I sponsor a few members on here and help them out with their sobriety be it meth, cocaine, opiates, alcohol or any drug and for some it's psychological help only for those who struggle with PTSD or O/S like I do either during addiction or in recovery.

We have a different type of log anyone can start called a 'journal' (ie: "My recovery from Opiates journal", just for example) where you can post any amount of updates you're comfortable with, days sober, what you used that day (if anything), or just how you're feeling about what you're using/drinking whether it be that you feel it's too much or it's nothing at all and just having a shitty day or even a great day! Some journals just end and some keep going, like any addict or user knows that's the yo-yo of it until we are recovered.

If you're content with where you're at then all is well my brother and let's stick to some serious training, diet and cycling. If there's anything along those lines about usage of anything (alcohol, drugs) you want help with or want to work on then you can either DM me and we can keep it anonymous between us or you can post a journal too. Whether I hear from you or not about this is totally up to you and EVO is entirely judgment-free. You seem to be in a good place brother so no pressure at all just know I'm here for that part if you need.

I've been sober and free of any non Rx mood-altering substances for almost 5 years and I still talk to my sponsor once a week even if it's just a quick text.

Super happy to have you here brother and I'll be following this log with a lot of enthusiasm! I love success stories and you are one of them already!!

Hey brother I really appreciate the in depth and sincere support, I really do.
I don’t find it that hard to open up about my past these days, I’ve had to bring it up so many times in the past be it counselling, court hearings, being off my head aswell. A lot do the time on meth I would just started flowing and babbling on and able to articulate what was going on with me. So at this point I’m my life I am pretty comfortable sharing the nitty gritty stuff. I’ll look into the journaling about mental health and aod recovery.
My ultimate plan is when I get sentenced for assault occasioning bodily harm, 35,000 in criminal damage and possession of methamphetamine is to come off the benzos, the clonidine and possibly even the bupropion anti depressant. I’m currently not taking my prescribed medical cannabis oil because my judge is dead against it. But once go to trial and get sentenced I do plan to start taking it. For me cannabis has always been a positive influence in my life. Alcohol, heroin, meth and benzos however have done nothing but destroy me.
Also I’ll give you massive thumbs up for your 5 years of total abstinence…that is fucking awesome brother. Hopefully I’ll get their one day, and who knows maybe I might not even like weed anymore it’s been like 2 years of jumping through legal hoops of being on bail, curfew, jail, and a pre sentence supervision order since I’ve really gotten stoned properly. The worst thing about the legal system is there’s so many ways to beat urinalysis for hard drugs. Like 72 hours, some creatine, bi carb soda, b vitamins, and some salt to raise your gravity and bada bing bada boom you’re good to piss clean. Really appreciate the everything that all of you guys do here, like it’s phenomenal actually. I just told my younger brother about how wicked the evo family is and have told him he should start a log on here to o get some solid advice. He doesn’t fuck with aas. But drugs and alcohol amd sedentary lifestyle he does.

 

[Shakey]

Okay so with the dead space I’m a bit confused now…if I suck up exactly 20 unites and vertically measure it with a “gravity drop”(where you hold your needle upright and sort of drop it in a fast motion(obviously don’t drop it on the floor, keep ahold of it lol) to bring all the air above the oil/gear and it reads 20. Then that’s exactly how much is in the fit…so any amount of air that’s added shouldn’t make any difference on the amount of oil…from my understanding right? As long as you’re adding enough air in to clear the tip of the needle and the plunger right? I’ve got a lot of experience in this field of things. Mixing up and using needles I mean. (Not bragging in anyway, just clarifying I am 100% confident in using fits)

Okay let me start with this, the markings on the syringe barrel do not include the dead space of the needle. In the image i attach here, red is your intended dose (it goes past marking because the plunger is factored into syringe measurements), and the green is volume overdrawn from vial.

When the plunger is depressed all the way, that dead space still remains full unless you use air to clear that residual waste into your body.

Do you mean that you draw to 20 units, get the air on the plunger with your gravity drop and the since the plunger is still at 20, you have 20 units measured, while the oil has shifted into the dead space? That'd be true if your dead space was filled with only air, and the air didnt get compressed in the pressure between plunger and needle filled with oil.

One of the studies cited in my article estimates brazil wasted between 62 to 176 million covid vaccines. There was a total of 540 million vaccines given, so estimates of waste are 11-32% roughly, depending on syringes supplies nation wide.

Even while drawing and not removing the air while drawing (which it sounds like your technique) you will still have an over draw, just not as much as you would compared to people that move the plunger back and forth on drawing to remove air pockets while drawing.

Adding more air after drawing wont change the amount of oil drawn but the air added will help clear the dead space residual waste into you upon injection. Which will make the injected volume more than intended.

For your gravity drop, i find it best to just hold it vertically and flick the shit out of er to get the bubble to rise. Lol

Oh and also just reading back on this I meant units of air. To throw in an extra 5-10 units of air in to clear the needle tip. Shit that was my bad I didn’t read it properly

Yupp perfectly fine, a nursing text book(new zealand version) i cited describes 0.1-0.2ml (10-20units) as good for airlocking in IM injections. 0.05-0.1ml (5-10units) for sub q.

Ill try and remember to tag you. Ive been asked to tag every one so far lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey brother I really appreciate the in depth and sincere support, I really do.
I don’t find it that hard to open up about my past these days, I’ve had to bring it up so many times in the past be it counselling, court hearings, being off my head aswell. A lot do the time on meth I would just started flowing and babbling on and able to articulate what was going on with me. So at this point I’m my life I am pretty comfortable sharing the nitty gritty stuff. I’ll look into the journaling about mental health and aod recovery.
My ultimate plan is when I get sentenced for assault occasioning bodily harm, 35,000 in criminal damage and possession of methamphetamine is to come off the benzos, the clonidine and possibly even the bupropion anti depressant. I’m currently not taking my prescribed medical cannabis oil because my judge is dead against it. But once go to trial and get sentenced I do plan to start taking it. For me cannabis has always been a positive influence in my life. Alcohol, heroin, meth and benzos however have done nothing but destroy me.
Also I’ll give you massive thumbs up for your 5 years of total abstinence…that is fucking awesome brother. Hopefully I’ll get their one day, and who knows maybe I might not even like weed anymore it’s been like 2 years of jumping through legal hoops of being on bail, curfew, jail, and a pre sentence supervision order since I’ve really gotten stoned properly. The worst thing about the legal system is there’s so many ways to beat urinalysis for hard drugs. Like 72 hours, some creatine, bi carb soda, b vitamins, and some salt to raise your gravity and bada bing bada boom you’re good to piss clean. Really appreciate the everything that all of you guys do here, like it’s phenomenal actually. I just told my younger brother about how wicked the evo family is and have told him he should start a log on here to o get some solid advice. He doesn’t fuck with aas. But drugs and alcohol amd sedentary lifestyle he does.

Thanks for much for receiving my reply as I intended it brother! I was hoping I didn't hit any nerves or trigger you in any (even some don't like the word "addict"). Not like we need to be 'babied' in any way, I think addicts are some of the toughest people on earth, but I was hoping it came across correctly and I'm grateful it did!

Where would I find the podcasts man?

I forgot to link you to this earlier... @LevButlerov and I started a megathread of all the EVO family members that have made guest appearances on the EVO podcast, just click here and scroll you'll see the new posts with links: Podcast VIP's - EVO members

Since my story is really related to yours you can click on my first podcast in my signature (all those blue links that show up below every post I make on EVO). You can just click here too: Podcast Episode 625

My DOC (drug of choice) might not have been meth but you'll see we had a lot in common regarding being powerless over certain drugs as each addict has their own biggest vices (mine was opiates, cocaine, and alcohol).

My ultimate plan is when I get sentenced for assault occasioning bodily harm, 35,000 in criminal damage and possession of methamphetamine is to come off the benzos, the clonidine and possibly even the bupropion anti depressant.

I've been there brother. After being medically retired from policing I did prison time and you may not believe this but my legal bill was exactly $35,000 as well (CDN dollars so like $5 bucks USD ).

If you want to fire up a Recovery Journal for us to follow as you titrate off anything or just keep us posted on how you're feeling with coming off that would be great. EVO will be here for you. If you check out my log you'll see I'm titrating off almost all my Rx drugs at the moment and I feel great and I could NOT have done without EVO and in fact only had the idea to even attempt it BECAUSE of EVO and the support I have here. To be honest I've gotten better advise on EVO (especially @LevButlerov) than I have from my own doctors who go about it just wrong some of the time.

For me cannabis has always been a positive influence in my life.

Perfect! Then as soon as you're able to let's re-introduce that and you can put it in your log or a journal and we'll fully support you!

Really appreciate the everything that all of you guys do here, like it’s phenomenal actually. I just told my younger brother about how wicked the evo family is and have told him he should start a log on here to o get some solid advice. He doesn’t fuck with aas. But drugs and alcohol amd sedentary lifestyle he does.

Much love to you and your brother from EVO! Let your brother know we await him with open arms if he wants to join the EVO Family! It's a better form of therapy for me than any in person or virtual shrink I've ever had! Even while you're driving you can hit up @stevesmi and @Mobster on the EVO podcasts and it's a way better listen than any other podcast or even music (for me) than any other type of therapeutic listening when you need it!

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Okay let me start with this, the markings on the syringe barrel do not include the dead space of the needle. In the image i attach here, red is your intended dose (it goes past marking because the plunger is factored into syringe measurements), and the green is volume overdrawn from vial.

When the plunger is depressed all the way, that dead space still remains full unless you use air to clear that residual waste into your body.

Do you mean that you draw to 20 units, get the air on the plunger with your gravity drop and the since the plunger is still at 20, you have 20 units measured, while the oil has shifted into the dead space? That'd be true if your dead space was filled with only air, and the air didnt get compressed in the pressure between plunger and needle filled with oil.

One of the studies cited in my article estimates brazil wasted between 62 to 176 million covid vaccines. There was a total of 540 million vaccines given, so estimates of waste are 11-32% roughly, depending on syringes supplies nation wide.

Even while drawing and not removing the air while drawing (which it sounds like your technique) you will still have an over draw, just not as much as you would compared to people that move the plunger back and forth on drawing to remove air pockets while drawing.

Adding more air after drawing wont change the amount of oil drawn but the air added will help clear the dead space residual waste into you upon injection. Which will make the injected volume more than intended.

For your gravity drop, i find it best to just hold it vertically and flick the shit out of er to get the bubble to rise. Lol


Yupp perfectly fine, a nursing text book(new zealand version) i cited describes 0.1-0.2ml (10-20units) as good for airlocking in IM injections. 0.05-0.1ml (5-10units) for sub q.

Ill try and remember to tag you. Ive been asked to tag every one so far lol

No, for example we’re talking 20units, I would draw back to the 30 unit mark and level it at the 10 unit mark leaving exactly 20units of oil/gear and 10 units of air(possibly more air because of the dead space) but 100% 20 units on the dot from the 10-30 unit mark if that makes sense

 

[KamikazeChaos]

So I would over draw then level it back out, if that makes sense

 

[Shakey]

No, for example we’re talking 20units, I would draw back to the 30 unit mark and level it at the 10 unit mark leaving exactly 20units of oil/gear and 10 units of air(possibly more air because of the dead space) but 100% 20 units on the dot from the 10-30 unit mark if that makes sense

Ohhhhh okay i see how you meant it, like how in my pictures, basically, where you can see your true total by holding it sharp end up, and counting the barrel marks.

Yea if the volume is 0.1ml to 0.3ml than see your 0.2ml precisely. Its just most people dont bother to do that, they just draw to marking and pin, your leveling out a precise dose and as long as the air is plunger side when pinning your all good.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Ohhhhh okay i see how you meant it, like how in my pictures, basically, where you can see your true total by holding it sharp end up, and counting the barrel marks.

Yea if the volume is 0.1ml to 0.3ml than see your 0.2ml precisely. Its just most people dont bother to do that, they just draw to marking and pin, your leveling out a precise dose and as long as the air is plunger side when pinning your all good.

Yeah sweet I thought we were both on the same page haha.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Thanks for much for receiving my reply as I intended it brother! I was hoping I didn't hit any nerves or trigger you in any (even some don't like the word "addict"). Not like we need to be 'babied' in any way, I think addicts are some of the toughest people on earth, but I was hoping it came across correctly and I'm grateful it did!



I forgot to link you to this earlier... @LevButlerov and I started a megathread of all the EVO family members that have made guest appearances on the EVO podcast, just click here and scroll you'll see the new posts with links: Podcast VIP's - EVO members

Since my story is really related to yours you can click on my first podcast in my signature (all those blue links that show up below every post I make on EVO). You can just click here too: Podcast Episode 625

My DOC (drug of choice) might not have been meth but you'll see we had a lot in common regarding being powerless over certain drugs as each addict has their own biggest vices (mine was opiates, cocaine, and alcohol).


I've been there brother. After being medically retired from policing I did prison time and you may not believe this but my legal bill was exactly $35,000 as well (CDN dollars so like $5 bucks USD ).

If you want to fire up a Recovery Journal for us to follow as you titrate off anything or just keep us posted on how you're feeling with coming off that would be great. EVO will be here for you. If you check out my log you'll see I'm titrating off almost all my Rx drugs at the moment and I feel great and I could NOT have done without EVO and in fact only had the idea to even attempt it BECAUSE of EVO and the support I have here. To be honest I've gotten better advise on EVO (especially @LevButlerov) than I have from my own doctors who go about it just wrong some of the time.


Perfect! Then as soon as you're able to let's re-introduce that and you can put it in your log or a journal and we'll fully support you!


Much love to you and your brother from EVO! Let your brother know we await him with open arms if he wants to join the EVO Family! It's a better form of therapy for me than any in person or virtual shrink I've ever had! Even while you're driving you can hit up @stevesmi and @Mobster on the EVO podcasts and it's a way better listen than any other podcast or even music (for me) than any other type of therapeutic listening when you need it!

Yeah bro I’ll check those podcasts out for sure, and already I can tell that evo is going to be the real game changer for me as compared to doctors and Counsellors. Like I have to attend my counselling for court and fuck I just hate every second of it, talking for the sake of talking trying to keep the legal system happy. I leave counselling feeling worse and more drained of energy and mental fortitude than before I went in there lol.
Thanks again brother I’m definitely going to try get my brother on here, the knowledge and support is wicked levels ahah.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Well this was my lunch.
Hope its on the right track, thing I love about salad and meats is they fill you up so much and they’re low in carbs and calories while being nutrient dense and fibrous.
I figured throwing my macros up like this was easier than sharing a file and even just the format, it’s just easier to calculate the total and not bother calculating the macros for each individual ingredient.

 

[HarleyGuy]

So I would over draw then level it back out, if that makes sense

@Shakey is working on a community research article regarding this exact topic @KamikazeChaos ... it's going to drop soon and you will get a lot out of it seeing as you pay attention to this stuff. I think you'll really appreciate the work he put into it and you'll see another side of EVO as well and why it was a game changer for me and will be for you too I can feel it too!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Well this was my lunch.
Hope its on the right track, thing I love about salad and meats is they fill you up so much and they’re low in carbs and calories while being nutrient dense and fibrous.
I figured throwing my macros up like this was easier than sharing a file and even just the format, it’s just easier to calculate the total and not bother calculating the macros for each individual ingredient.

2:1:1 protein to carbs/fats, I'm liking this already!

 

[KamikazeChaos]

@Shakey is working on a community research article regarding this exact topic @KamikazeChaos ... it's going to drop soon and you will get a lot out of it seeing as you pay attention to this stuff. I think you'll really appreciate the work he put into it and you'll see another side of EVO as well and why it was a game changer for me and will be for you too I can feel it too!

Yeah man I’m keen as to see all of what this site has to offer, shouldn’t even say “site” I’ll say community. It’s a fucking mint community, I remember being on bb.com like 10 years back and the amount of fools with their bro science was ridiculous. I was told not to bother even doing a cycle unless it was a minimum of 500mg of test and for a minimum of 10 weeks. Maybe there’s been a lot of more research since then or maybe there was just a lot of clowns giving advice on topics they didn’t fully know. But this community is next level

 

[Shakey]

Well this was my lunch.
Hope its on the right track, thing I love about salad and meats is they fill you up so much and they’re low in carbs and calories while being nutrient dense and fibrous.
I figured throwing my macros up like this was easier than sharing a file and even just the format, it’s just easier to calculate the total and not bother calculating the macros for each individual ingredient.

Not sure if i mentioned it already but check out MyFitnessPal for tracking macros. Ignore if i said that already. Lol

Itll probably be a few more days before im back sitting at a pc to finish article after the tear. Its definitely taking longer than expected.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

2:1:1 protein to carbs/fats, I'm liking this already!

So continue with this diet for lunch? Not sure if you seen my breakfasts macros, the carbs and protein were a lot more like 50/50

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Not sure if i mentioned it already but check out MyFitnessPal for tracking macros. Ignore if i said that already. Lol

Itll probably be a few more days before im back sitting at a pc to finish article after the tear. Its definitely taking longer than expected.

Yeah I’ll download it today.
Ooof, not good, are you taking bpc and tb to help heal it?

 

[Shakey]

So continue with this diet for lunch? Not sure if you seen my breakfasts macros, the carbs and protein were a lot more like 50/50

Thats fine too, i went 2:2:1 for protein/carb/fat. I was doing lots of cardio at the time, but pulled back on the carbs when i slowed down on cardio.

Yeah I’ll download it today.
Ooof, not good, are you taking bpc and tb to help heal it?

Yeah got a grade 2 lat tear on the right side. Oddly enoughmy first set of reverse ez curl bicep curls was the final straw that day. Went to the ER next morning.

Im slamming 12mg of glow daily at the moment and 6iu hgh to help recovery until i get standalone bpc and tb. Then ill pull the glow back to minimal.

 

[HarleyGuy]

So continue with this diet for lunch? Not sure if you seen my breakfasts macros, the carbs and protein were a lot more like 50/50

For you and for now I like lower carb that's why I pointed out this meal. We wanna get you insulin sensitive and burn those free fatty acids using a lot of activity and keep glucose out of it by eliminating all refined and unnecessary high glycemic carbs. Go to bed hungry if you can and cycle carbs for fuel only.

 

[Ulter]

Okay and don’t worry about an A.I.? Or cabergoline? Cabers been shown to be very successful at lowering prolactin levels and improving psychoegenic erectile dysfunction

@KamikazeChaos I think once you balance your mind and body, things will improve overall. I think it's great that you're doing this log. You have a lot of self-healing to do and once that happens, you'll be ready to share it with someone else.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Thats fine too, i went 2:2:1 for protein/carb/fat. I was doing lots of cardio at the time, but pulled back on the carbs when i slowed down on cardio.


Yeah got a grade 2 lat tear on the right side. Oddly enoughmy first set of reverse ez curl bicep curls was the final straw that day. Went to the ER next morning.

Im slamming 12mg of glow daily at the moment and 6iu hgh to help recovery until i get standalone bpc and tb. Then ill pull the glow back to minimal.

Oh nasty, how long ago did you tear your lat and what’s your estimated recovery time?

 

[KamikazeChaos]

For you and for now I like lower carb that's why I pointed out this meal. We wanna get you insulin sensitive and burn those free fatty acids using a lot of activity and keep glucose out of it by eliminating all refined and unnecessary high glycemic carbs. Go to bed hungry if you can and cycle carbs for fuel only.

Yeah I’ve just completed my full daily diet, which isn’t going to change to much unless you guys can tweak it a bit or offer advice which I’m all for taking on that support and criticism. I’ll upload my full daily diet in file form shortly

 

[KamikazeChaos]

@KamikazeChaos I think once you balance your mind and body, things will improve overall. I think it's great that you're doing this log. You have a lot of self-healing to do and once that happens, you'll be ready to share it with someone else.

Couldn’t sum it up any better myself man, my problem is I get good for a year or so and then I self sabotage. So I’m gonna need to pull myself into line whenever I feel myself lacking or slacking off

 

[KamikazeChaos]

My daily intake, any suggestions of changing the macros and if so what foods would you consider to balance out my macros

 

[Ulter]

Couldn’t sum it up any better myself man, my problem is I get good for a year or so and then I self sabotage. So I’m gonna need to pull myself into line whenever I feel myself lacking or slacking off

that's a pretty common thing that happens to people but you will overcome it

 

[KamikazeChaos]

that's a pretty common thing that happens to people but you will overcome it

Yeah cheers bro, I got this. The amount of motivation I’ve gotten just from the last few days of engaging in the evo community is crazy

 

[ceo]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

Bros, you need to transition all your past addictions and use them as a strength for the future. Stay addicted to the training. Stay addicted to the iron. Stay addicted to the gym. The feel good that you have after training and cardio is nothing like anything else. @KamikazeChaos

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Bros, you need to transition all your past addictions and use them as a strength for the future. Stay addicted to the training. Stay addicted to the iron. Stay addicted to the gym. The feel good that you have after training and cardio is nothing like anything else. @KamikazeChaos

Yeah I know man, will take a few months but once I’m in the zone that will be motivating in itself

 

[HarleyGuy]

My daily intake, any suggestions of changing the macros and if so what foods would you consider to balance out my macros

The .txt aren't loading for me. Can you take screenshots of this, screenshots of an app, or embed the file into the body of your update?

 

[KamikazeChaos]

The .txt aren't loading for me. Can you take screenshots of this, screenshots of an app, or embed the file into the body of your update?

Did this work? It should come up with the option to either download or view the file

 

[KamikazeChaos]

This should work

 

[HarleyGuy]

Did this work? It should come up with the option to either download or view the file

Nah... I had to save it to my PC as a .txt and then load it on notepad. I cut and paste it for you with formatting to make it more readable below. Moving forward you'll have to screen shot it and post in updates or use my template to make it both readable and available for a quick skim for daily totals at the bottom as well. Feel free to copy the format in the future.

**Did you know that dinner1 and dinner2 were cut and paste macros or did you mean to do that?


Daily intake (total below)

Morning meds
10mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol, 50mg tramadol

Breakfast
Watermelon
Calories-140
Carbs-33.5g
Sugar-29g
Fibre-1.9g
Protein-2.9g
Fat-0.7g

Whey protein
Calories-146
Protein-25.3G
Fat-3.2g
Saturated fat-2.3G
Carbs-3.2g
Sugars-2g
Dietary fibre-1g
Sodium-116mg

Greek yogurt
Calories-110
Protein-16.6g
Fat-0.4g
Saturated fat-0.2g
Carbs-9.8g
Sugars-9.8g
Sodium-118mg
Calcium-538mg

Eggs
2x hard boiled eggs
Calories-140
Protein-12.5g
Fat-11g
Carbs-1g

Supplements
Magnesium glycinate-150mg
Multi vitamin(to much to list)
Glucosamine hcl-1500mg
Fish oil x4-2600mg of omega 3 triglycerides(in the form of epa-1300mg and dha -520mg
Liv 52 ds


Breakfast Total
Calories-536
Protein-57.3g
Carbs-47.5g
Sugar-40.8g
Fat-15.3g
Fibre-2.9g
Sodium-234mg
Calcium-538mg


Lunch
Decided to just add the macros for the entire dish rather than breaking down the macros of each ingredient.


200g of lettuce
1 tomato
1 whole onion
Quarter of a cucumber
3 cloves of garlic
1/4 of Beetroot
Juice of 1 lemon
2 servings of tuna
2 hard boiled eggs

Lunch Total
Calories-540
Protein-51g
Carbs-24g
Fats-25g
Fibre-7g


Dinner (made 2 meals)

Chicken breast
Frozen veggies(corn, peas, carrots, cauliflower and broccoli)
Moroccan spice
Chilli powder
All spice
2 tablespoons of olive oil

Dinner 1(at 5pm)
Calories-448
Protein-45.7g
Carbs-14g
Fats-19.6g
Fibre-13.2g
Sugar-5.6g
Sodium-146mg

Dinner 2(8pm)
Calories-448
Protein-45.7g
Carbs-14g
Fats-19.6g
Fibre-13.2g
Sugar-5.6g
Sodium-146mg

Dinner Total

Calories- 896
Protein - 91.4g
Carbs- 28g
Fats-39.2g


TOTAL FOR THE DAY
Calories-1973
Protein-199.7g
Fat-79.5g
Carbs-99.5g

Fibre-36.3g
Sugars-52g
Sodium-672mg
Calcium-538mg

 

[HarleyGuy]

This should work

This works too, either or.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Nah... I had to save it to my PC as a .txt and then load it on notepad. I cut and paste it for you with formatting to make it more readable below. Moving forward you'll have to screen shot it and post in updates or use my template to make it both readable and available for a quick skim for daily totals at the bottom as well. Feel free to copy the format in the future.

**Did you know that dinner1 and dinner2 were cut and paste macros or did you mean to do that?


Daily intake (total below)

Morning meds
10mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol, 50mg tramadol

Breakfast
Watermelon
Calories-140
Carbs-33.5g
Sugar-29g
Fibre-1.9g
Protein-2.9g
Fat-0.7g

Whey protein
Calories-146
Protein-25.3G
Fat-3.2g
Saturated fat-2.3G
Carbs-3.2g
Sugars-2g
Dietary fibre-1g
Sodium-116mg

Greek yogurt
Calories-110
Protein-16.6g
Fat-0.4g
Saturated fat-0.2g
Carbs-9.8g
Sugars-9.8g
Sodium-118mg
Calcium-538mg

Eggs
2x hard boiled eggs
Calories-140
Protein-12.5g
Fat-11g
Carbs-1g

Supplements
Magnesium glycinate-150mg
Multi vitamin(to much to list)
Glucosamine hcl-1500mg
Fish oil x4-2600mg of omega 3 triglycerides(in the form of epa-1300mg and dha -520mg
Liv 52 ds


Breakfast Total
Calories-536
Protein-57.3g
Carbs-47.5g
Sugar-40.8g
Fat-15.3g
Fibre-2.9g
Sodium-234mg
Calcium-538mg


Lunch
Decided to just add the macros for the entire dish rather than breaking down the macros of each ingredient.


200g of lettuce
1 tomato
1 whole onion
Quarter of a cucumber
3 cloves of garlic
1/4 of Beetroot
Juice of 1 lemon
2 servings of tuna
2 hard boiled eggs

Lunch Total
Calories-540
Protein-51g
Carbs-24g
Fats-25g
Fibre-7g


Dinner (made 2 meals)

Chicken breast
Frozen veggies(corn, peas, carrots, cauliflower and broccoli)
Moroccan spice
Chilli powder
All spice
2 tablespoons of olive oil

Dinner 1(at 5pm)
Calories-448
Protein-45.7g
Carbs-14g
Fats-19.6g
Fibre-13.2g
Sugar-5.6g
Sodium-146mg

Dinner 2(8pm)
Calories-448
Protein-45.7g
Carbs-14g
Fats-19.6g
Fibre-13.2g
Sugar-5.6g
Sodium-146mg

Dinner Total

Calories- 896
Protein - 91.4g
Carbs- 28g
Fats-39.2g


TOTAL FOR THE DAY
Calories-1973
Protein-199.7g
Fat-79.5g
Carbs-99.5g

Fibre-36.3g
Sugars-52g
Sodium-672mg
Calcium-538mg

Yeah I did mean to split the 2 dinner meals…I weighed everything out and portioned it all and added up all the macros then split it into 2 Tupperware tubs. Just thought breaking down the eating habits. Like at what time etc was worth noting then just putting my entire daily intake in there. and cheers I appreciate you uploading it an easier to read format etc im absolutely useless when it comes to phone and computers lol.
On a side note what’s your thoughts and opinions on sticking to that’s diet plan? I’m thinking of increasing my sodium intake and balancing my fats out to roughly the same as the carbs. So it’s be 2:1:1: ratio of protein, fat and carbs. I’m doing about 2 hours of walking a day. An hour in the morning and an hour in the evening and about 45 minutes free weights and calisthenics. Tomorrow I’ll write up my training routine.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Like at what time etc was worth noting

That was good to note that. Never too much detail. You can cut and paste my template with the formatting or use the screen shots you definitely fixed it and the diet tracking looks awesome.

Tomorrow I’ll write up my training routine.

Let's see this in detail before making the decision on diet. Remember you're cutting so carb timing and fat grams will all matter. To start, eliminate all refined carbs, sugar, and high glycemic carbs. Watermelon in the morning is fine I'd just avoid it at night. Your diet looked clean and macros are looking good for now including calorie intake until we see your energy output and training.

Keep up the great work bro, log is coming along well! We should get a cleaned up version of your current cycle to post with each big log update including ancilleries. You're not going to go with cabergoline are you? And nolva can be used in certain situations but aromasin is your go to if estrogen control is needed but we need bloodwork. Do you have a date planned for bloodwork?

 

[Mobster]

Alright here we go…
30 year old guy
Currently 187cm tall
102-104kg
not sure how to word everything or even where to start, so I guess I’ll start from the age of 16.
Started iv’ing meth at 16, was out of home by 14, after a family tragedy. So drugs and self sabotage were a big thing.
extremely malnourished through all my teenage years. By the age of 16 I was 6 foot 1 weighing only 58kg.
Went on like that for years until the age of 19 and I decided to get clean and start doing hypertrophy training.
Within 3 months of training I bought my first vial of UGLOZ test e back in 2014(I think)
I used that 10 ml vial for 5 weeks at 500mg a week without any pct and went from 62kg to 74kg in just that 5 weeks, I had started buy gold standard, and just dirty bulking with cheap coles sausages and tuna, went like that for about another 2 years natural and eventually made my way up to 80kg and benching 85kg at 21. Then I did a 6 week cycle of ghrp6 injecting 5-6 times a day and got up to 86kg. Then came my proper roid cycle that was 500mg of test e and hcg twice a week for 10 weeks(used hcg on same days I’d pin my test) and got up to 92-93kg with a max bench of 110kg 2 rep max.
Then fell back into drug addiction for about 2-3 years and was comfort eating and using drugs to escape more issues.
Fast forward until the age of 24 I did a test e and tren cycle (which I did half assed)
Hardly trained apart from walking bicep curls and push-ups and got to about 112kg. then I started brick paving and got into great shape and down to about 91kg.
Fast forward another year and I did anothe test e cycle with clomid and nolvadex, was doing pretty well but my strength had gone down a lot.
Fast forward til 2022 and I started keto with test e and anavar and cut out carbs and sugars entirely and got shredded with a visible 6 pack, 97kg, calisthenics and free weights hard. Then had a bad reaction to some meth and lsd (could have been the clen I was taking) and had an electrolyte lockout and went into a full body cramp and spasm. Completely changed my posture and is still a work in progress seeing and osteopath and doing light exercises, resistance bands, walking, stretching amd some free weights.
There was a few half assed cycles inbetween all do that where I’d do 4-5 weeks of test then jump off and at one point I used anadrol for 5 weeks with no test base or pct.
Here I am now, 30 years old over 100kg, out of rehab, on a pre sentence supervision order, so dealing with legal issues.

Diet
Morning meds
15mg diazepam, 150mg bupropion, 500mg paracetamol.

Breakfast a slice of watermelon, whole banana and high protein Greek yoghurt
(16g a serve) with a protein shake (27g of protein) 4 fish oils, magnesium glycinate, glucosamine, calcium vitamin d and k2.

Lunch
2 servings of tuna(34 grams of protein)
Salad mix with a tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic, and juice of 1 lemon.

Meal 3
Either 300g of chicken breast or 250g of beef mince, with 250g of frozen veggies(carrots, peas, corn, broccoli and cauliflower)

Meal 4
Either 300g of chicken breast, salad mix, tomato, quarter of a cucumber, half an onion, a clove of garlic and juice of 1 lemon

Night time meds
300micrograms of clonidine
75mg promethazine
150mg bupropion

Training regimen
45minutes of walking my dog
Stretching
Dumbbell curls -22kg each hand
Pushups -15
Chinups-8-10
Leg raises -12-15
For about 3 sets daily
And that’s honestly about it for training as of lately. I’m still on recovery from the last 2 years of drug abuse.
And I don’t have access to much equipment.

Steroids I have
Test e 400mg x10ml
Anavar 138x 25mg
Dianabol 21x10mg
Suatanon 300mg x10ml
Deca 300mg x10ml
Nolvadex(can’t remember dosage) think 20or 25mg x50-60caps
Clomid (can’t remember dosage) 20 or 25mg 50-60 caps
All products are from @Raptor Labs
Not sure how to go about all of this, wether to blast and cruise, use a.I.’s, hcg and caber and do pct with clomid/nolvadex.

Current test and shbg levels
Testosterone-9.9 nmol/l
Shbg-14nmol/l
Free testosterone-289pmol/l

Have had erectile dysfunction for last 3-4 years which sucks, sucked even more when I was shredded and actually had girls attention, but no libido is gone, dxck doesn’t work, premature ejac aswell as it being soft. Used to be a stallion that could go for well over 40-45 minutes.
Testicles have shrunken dramatically.

I can’t afford a to see an endocrinologist or hormone clinic. It’s just not feasible at this point in time. After leaving rehab I’ve had to move back in with family, have bought car and currently 10 months sober from hard drugs but in this economy I’m saving for a bond for my own place.

I know I’ve thrown a lot of personal crap in my log but I didn’t really know where to start

You told your story which is all that matters. Now lets's see structure

 

[Shakey]

Oh nasty, how long ago did you tear your lat and what’s your estimated recovery time?

6 days ago, last monday. Lol
Id day recovery is around 10weeks, but im assuning 12 weeks.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

That was good to note that. Never too much detail. You can cut and paste my template with the formatting or use the screen shots you definitely fixed it and the diet tracking looks awesome.


Let's see this in detail before making the decision on diet. Remember you're cutting so carb timing and fat grams will all matter. To start, eliminate all refined carbs, sugar, and high glycemic carbs. Watermelon in the morning is fine I'd just avoid it at night. Your diet looked clean and macros are looking good for now including calorie intake until we see your energy output and training.

Keep up the great work bro, log is coming along well! We should get a cleaned up version of your current cycle to post with each big log update including ancilleries. You're not going to go with cabergoline are you? And nolva can be used in certain situations but aromasin is your go to if estrogen control is needed but we need bloodwork. Do you have a date planned for bloodwork?

Yeah I’m not eating any refined sugars or adding sugar to anything, I might have a black coffee in the morning or a cup of green tea but nah only sugars are coming from the watermelon, Greek yogurt and the vegetables.
Current cycle is just the 150mg a week do test e(did my first injection yesterday.) the only ancillaries I’ve got are clomid and nolvadex. Should I start adding in vitamin d3 or zma? Or get an a.I.? And with cabergoline I’ll leave that decision up to you guys entirely, I don’t know enough about it. My next blood will be in 4 weeks to see where im sitting at with the 150mg test e

 

[KamikazeChaos]

6 days ago, last monday. Lol
Id day recovery is around 10weeks, but im assuning 12 weeks.

True true, did it require surgery? You said you were pinning hgh yeah? That should speed up the healing process and through hyperplasia, myofibrillar hypertrophy, myogenesis and andiogenesis to grow new fibres and create new blood vessels etc

 

[Shakey]

True true, did it require surgery? You said you were pinning hgh yeah? That should speed up the healing process and through hyperplasia, myofibrillar hypertrophy, myogenesis and andiogenesis to grow new fibres and create new blood vessels etc

No surgery its just a grade 2, i assume moderate 2 as you can feel the deformity but not see it. Well not while its swollen anyways.

I upped my gh to 6iu and im smashing 12mg of glow daily. Both straight into the lat.

 

[KamikazeChaos]

No surgery its just a grade 2, i assume moderate 2 as you can feel the deformity but not see it. Well not while its swollen anyways.

I upped my gh to 6iu and im smashing 12mg of glow daily. Both straight into the lat.

Haha nice, what’s your thoughts and opinions on localised muscle hypertrophy on injection sites with aas? Cause when I used to pin my delts in my early 20’s I swear they were like cannon balls by the end of a cycle

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Update, just finished my walk for this morning. It was 4.2km in approximately 50minutes. It was a gravel walk trail with slight incline and declines, while my dog was pulling like little fucker. Burnt an Estimated 300-340ish calories from what I read being at my body fat percentage?

 

[Shakey]

Haha nice, what’s your thoughts and opinions on localised muscle hypertrophy on injection sites with aas? Cause when I used to pin my delts in my early 20’s I swear they were like cannon balls by the end of a cycle

Pretty much all AAS compounds are systemic in nature, whether oral or oil. They all hit the blood stream. The difference is how they work and how that effects the "look" of the muscle.

example
Dry, grainy delts vs round delts with a fullness to em . Different look depending on compound(s).

 

[LevButlerov]

Update, just finished my walk for this morning. It was 4.2km in approximately 50minutes. It was a gravel walk trail with slight incline and declines, while my dog was pulling like little fucker. Burnt an Estimated 300-340ish calories from what I read being at my body fat percentage?

good keep the cardio up @KamikazeChaos
bodyfat probably 20%+ but dont worry about it now we will get it down

 

[KamikazeChaos]

Pretty much all AAS compounds are systemic in nature, whether oral or oil. They all hit the blood stream. The difference is how they work and how that effects the "look" of the muscle.

example
Dry, grainy delts vs round delts with a fullness to em . Different look depending on compound(s).

Okay so it would have just been the test

 

[KamikazeChaos]

good keep the cardio up @KamikazeChaos
bodyfat probably 20%+ but dont worry about it now we will get it down

I’m guessing more around 30% at least 25%+ would like to lean down to about 90-92kg with a body fat of about 12-15%

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m guessing more around 30% at least 25%+ would like to lean down to about 90-92kg with a body fat of about 12-15%

stay positive we will get you down slowly EVO family here to support you! @KamikazeChaos

 

[ceo]

Yeah I know man, will take a few months but once I’m in the zone that will be motivating in itself

bros that is a good goal

 

[KamikazeChaos]

So today the only thing which has changed with my diet was no watermelon with my breakfast and I had a black coffee. Planning on sticking to this diet plan(not going over on my macros but I’m not to fussed if I go under on some carbs unless you guys think I should keep carbs the same) Going to weigh myself soon, lunch and dinner/dinners will be the same. Between lunch and dinner/dinners I’ll smash out some full body calisthenics and some free weights. Will keep you posted on what exercises I do cheers everyone this community is fucking mint

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yeah I always thought calisthenics was garbage until a few years ago and started utilising them with free weights

I run into guys who never touched the weight in their life and who look absolutely ripped I think jackie chan is an example he never really weight train it's all doing different things like you're saying

 

[Ulter]

Yeah cheers bro, I got this. The amount of motivation I’ve gotten just from the last few days of engaging in the evo community is crazy

We definitely believe in you man. You're gonna kill it.