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Approved Log Road to Recovery: Diagnosis, Surgery and Rehab Journal

rayray01 said:
Yes sir added boiled egg and little bit of asparagus this time see how that goes for me. Pretty much on cruise control when it comes to diet and meal prep and excersize man just waiting to start ramping things up in about 6 weeks time

Can't wait to have my first proper cycle this time and hit things hard and gain some lost ground. So will be aggressive in chasing to get back to my normal lifting and stregth in upper body from the word go bro.

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it looks good clean :D we will get there 1 step at a time
 
LevButlerov said:
The answer is a hard no! right now you are recovering from surgery, last time you went the wrong way we had to redo surgery please dont use anymore than the standard TRT+ we are doing now for sometime
we need to see you 100% recovered posts surgery then we can cut trust me :D @rayray01
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But you yourself said to wait atleast a month in this post itself after my surgery and then start so I waited a month and have started why does this timeline keep changing ? Heck I asked the doc can I get a tattoo on the shoulder and bicep on which he did surgery and he said yes go ahead if i want to... not sure why fat burner medication will be determental to my health or recovery when my physical routine in the gym will start the same. It's not like i am adding additional physical stress. I have already stsrted as soon my 1 month was over so this week and feel fine so why stop?? Please see attached your advised hence waited a month.

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But you yourself said to wait atleast a month in this post itself after my surgery and then start so I waited a month and have started why does this timeline keep changing ? Heck I asked the doc can I get a tattoo on the shoulder and bicep on which he did surgery and he said yes go ahead if i want to... not sure why fat burner medication will be determental to my health or recovery when my physical routine in the gym will start the same. It's not like i am adding additional physical stress. I have already stsrted as soon my 1 month was over so this week and feel fine so why stop?? Please see attached your advised hence waited a month.

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has your doctor cleared you to fully trained your shoulder? @rayray01 aka 100% back to normal?
 
rayray01 said:
No man that is not going to happen for lifting weight for another month or longer. @LevButlerov
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here is the finish line for you, when your doctor says we can lift 100% like surgery done and you're recovered, we can shift gears and focus on new cycle and getting to new goals :D @rayray01 trust me go slow its a marathon not a race
 
Fat burners are just going to speed up my metabolism
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here is the finish line for you, when your doctor says we can lift 100% like surgery done and you're recovered, we can shift gears and focus on new cycle and getting to new goals :D @rayray01 trust me go slow its a marathon not a race
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Brother I am not even worried about starting a cycle at this time I get it i will worry about all that when I am able to lift. My goal during this time is get on fat burner stacks amd use my current slow amd steady to lean up as much as possible. I want thst by the time I am ok'ed to lift there is no cutting required coz inam have done it all by then. Or very little.of it required. So we focus on adding muscles and not burning belly fat. Hope that helps you understand where I am coming from. @LevButlerov
 
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Fat burners are just going to speed up my metabolism
Brother I am not even worried about starting a cycle at this time I get it i will worry about all that when I am able to lift. My goal during this time is get on fat burner stacks amd use my current slow amd steady to lean up as much as possible. I want thst by the time I am ok'ed to lift there is no cutting required coz inam have done it all by then. Or very little.of it required. So we focus on adding muscles and not burning belly fat. Hope that helps you understand where I am coming from. @LevButlerov
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Fat burners do more they increase inflammation and cause a lot of recovery issues, like I said you should wait until you're fully recovered :D
 
I get what you are advising, please let me continue, I have an mri svelte in two weeks to make sure everything is intact post surger, if there is any hindrance in recovery i feel is happening i will stop but honestly feel great and if that changes in any which way I promise I will stop. I will feel i am productive in the best way i can be during this time by doing this. Please. I need it for mental peace, it will help me stay focused on a goal.
 
rayray01 said:
I get what you are advising, please let me continue, I have an mri svelte in two weeks to make sure everything is intact post surger, if there is any hindrance in recovery i feel is happening i will stop but honestly feel great and if that changes in any which way I promise I will stop. I will feel i am productive in the best way i can be during this time by doing this. Please. I need it for mental peace, it will help me stay focused on a goal.
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can you trust me on this please? :D stay like this until we recover from surgery
you will injure yourself again i promise you and we will go back to square 1 @rayray01 im on your side here but please lets go slower
 
So walking out of my doctor's office, I asked him specifically if i take clenbuterol, albuterol, t3 and fat metabolising peptides, would it cause any inflammation or hinderence in surgery recovery. And the doctor said no, it should not have any impact on the surgery site. I will not have any issues with it he advised and I listed all the fat burners and peptides I started on. He did advise prol9nged use of clen does carry heart risk and aggressive use of albuterol may cause issues. But i do not believe i am doing either, plus that was already known to me to begin with. @LevButlerov
 
rayray01 said:
So walking out of my doctor's office, I asked him specifically if i take clenbuterol, albuterol, t3 and fat metabolising peptides, would it cause any inflammation or hinderence in surgery recovery. And the doctor said no, it should not have any impact on the surgery site. I will not have any issues with it he advised and I listed all the fat burners and peptides I started on. He did advise prol9nged use of clen does carry heart risk and aggressive use of albuterol may cause issues. But i do not believe i am doing either, plus that was already known to me to begin with. @LevButlerov
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rayray01 said:
Had my physical therapy session confirmed it with her as well far burners and or peptides will not cause any hindrance in surgery recovery. Her only instruction was stick with no lifting with right arm and shoulder which I am not doing until cleared anyway... so we should be good on it @LevButlerov
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I cant stop you from doing it but I can tell you she's wrong @rayray01 at least 3-4 more weeks before you dial things up would be smart
 
LevButlerov said:
I cant stop you from doing it but I can tell you she's wrong @rayray01 at least 3-4 more weeks before you dial things up would be smart
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On training side of thing I am not dialing anything up everything is going to stay the same just 2 extra pills thsts all, 2 clen, 2 slu pp 332 a day. That's it. Not changing anything else for next 6 weeks. Because I am doing. Incline walking everyday day anyway clen will help me maximize that time spent on treadmill with hopefully more fat burn. That is my.hope.
 
rayray01 said:
On training side of thing I am not dialing anything up everything is going to stay the same just 2 extra pills thsts all, 2 clen, 2 slu pp 332 a day. That's it. Not changing anything else for next 6 weeks. Because I am doing. Incline walking everyday day anyway clen will help me maximize that time spent on treadmill with hopefully more fat burn. That is my.hope.
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I mean dial in on all, you are going to hurt recovery if you use too much
 
LevButlerov said:
lets cut carbs to 200 and protein to 200 and try to dial in a bit more cardio work slowly towards your cutting goals :D
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Damn carbs to.just 200 ok, this damn SLU-PP-332 makes me hungry for sure. I guess the only thing to.cut is fruits coz I eat chicken and rice just once a day. And will stsrt to do 45 mins cardio instead of 30 mins. Carbs is gonna be a challenge.
 
rayray01 said:
Damn carbs to.just 200 ok, this damn SLU-PP-332 makes me hungry for sure. I guess the only thing to.cut is fruits coz I eat chicken and rice just once a day. And will stsrt to do 45 mins cardio instead of 30 mins. Carbs is gonna be a challenge.
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you want to cut you need to get carbs down @rayray01 get some cagrilintide it will help
 
LevButlerov said:
you want to cut you need to get carbs down @rayray01 get some cagrilintide it will help
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@ so it's like mounjaro, I already 7.5mg of once a week and reta as well, so I will ask my doc to increase the frequency from. Once a week to twice a week... let's see what she says... I am sure she will be ok with it. @LevButlerov or do u think I should still try cagrilintide? Please advise.Screenshot_20260407_203619_MyChart.webp

Sent this to my doc so we will find out tomorrow what she says
 
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rayray01 said:
@ so it's like mounjaro, I already 7.5mg of once a week and reta as well, so I will ask my doc to increase the frequency from. Once a week to twice a week... let's see what she says... I am sure she will be ok with it. @LevButlerov or do u think I should still try cagrilintide? Please advise.View attachment 211045

Sent this to my doc so we will find out tomorrow what she says
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I think you should mix retatrutide with cagrilintide way better combo than tirzepatide tbh @rayray01
review my mega thread please https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...s-semaglutide-tirzepatide-retatrutide.109649/
 
LevButlerov said:
good adjustment lets cut carbs to 200
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I tried man I will have to be figure out what because literally this is like my bare minimum. Man I order it from goalpha labs Florida based company, 3rd party tested, made in USA , inhave my account set up and payment is very.easy debit credit amd they offer loyalty rewards similar to napsgear so I few bucks off and then I will order a bulk package from my connect in india by that arrives I have one vial coming to hold me over. @LevButlerov
 
rayray01 said:
I tried man I will have to be figure out what because literally this is like my bare minimum. Man I order it from goalpha labs Florida based company, 3rd party tested, made in USA , inhave my account set up and payment is very.easy debit credit amd they offer loyalty rewards similar to napsgear so I few bucks off and then I will order a bulk package from my connect in india by that arrives I have one vial coming to hold me over. @LevButlerov
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why do you keep ordering from strange places when you're in the EVO family? I dont get it @rayray01 with your past cancer issue you should be way more careful and this "3rd party tested" is nonsense scam used by many of these companies like goalpha
 
LevButlerov said:
why do you keep ordering from strange places when you're in the EVO family? I dont get it @rayray01 with your past cancer issue you should be way more careful and this "3rd party tested" is nonsense scam used by many of these companies like goalpha
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Its ok man I will take my chance. I trust the source. What if i get cancer by using umbrella, will they pay.for my.medical and what guarantee do they provide that i will not get cancer by using their products, can they give it to me in writing, if the answer is yes then i will swutch, if they cant then it makes nondifference where i get the products from. Anyways. I get that evo has trusted sources, but I am sure everyone on here is not limited to those sources only. I am here at evo to gain knowledge and guidance to achieve my fitness goals what difference does it make where I get my peptides from as long as I believe they are good quality and properly tested.

I have never lived my life scared of such things or worried about such things. Life and death is in God's hands. No one is going live forever so why worry about such things. My controllable are get pet scan twice a year to ensure if there is any such thing it is detected early on and can engage treatment properly. 90% of my family are doctors. Trust me I am well aware and proactive about such health risks. @LevButlerov
 
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rayray01 said:
Its ok man I will take my chance. I trust the source. What if i get cancer by using umbrella, will they pay.for my.medical and what guarantee do they provide that i will not get cancer by using their products, can they give it to me in writing, if the answer is yes then i will swutch, if they cant then it makes nondifference where i get the products from. Anyways. I get that evo has trusted sources, but I am sure everyone on here is not limited to those sources only. I am here at evo to gain knowledge and guidance to achieve my fitness goals what difference does it make where I get my peptides from as long as I believe they are good quality and properly tested.

I have never lived my life scared of such things or worried about such things. Life and death is in God's hands. No one is going live forever so why worry about such things. My controllable are get pet scan twice a year to ensure if there is any such thing it is detected early on and can engage treatment properly. 90% of my family are doctors. Trust me I am well aware and proactive about such health risks. @LevButlerov
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Umbrella labs is USA made and USA tested, I think in the future when you and I talk you should take advice we are trying to give you @rayray01 :D otherwise you're up and down, remember you just had a 2nd surgery back to back so doing it your way was off
EVO family respect for trying but you should listen to the people who love you and try to help you :D
 
LevButlerov said:
Umbrella labs is USA made and USA tested, I think in the future when you and I talk you should take advice we are trying to give you @rayray01 :D otherwise you're up and down, remember you just had a 2nd surgery back to back so doing it your way was off
EVO family respect for trying but you should listen to the people who love you and try to help you :D
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.@LevButlerov

Brother, I hear you—and I respect where you’re coming from. At the same time, I’ve got to be mindful of my wallet and find a practical balance.

If Umbrella Labs were more competitive with my current manufacturer, I’d absolutely consider going that route. But right now, I have to make decisions that make sense financially while still maintaining quality.

The source I’m using operates under IS 2123 standards, is government-regulated, and I’ve personally visited the facility and seen the manufacturing process firsthand. That gives me a high level of confidence in what I’m using. If I had any doubts at all, I wouldn’t hesitate to switch to a domestic source.

Also, as you know, India is one of the largest pharmaceutical hubs in the world. A significant portion of generic medications globally are manufactured there, and the quality control standards are rigorous and consistent.

There’s absolutely no disrespect intended toward anyone here—I’ve got a lot of respect for the Evo family. I’m just trying to find the right balance between cost, quality, and practicality, while still learning and applying the advice shared here.

And just to clarify on the surgery—the second one was due to a slip and fall where I landed on my arm and took the full impact. It wasn’t related to my training or peptides. That was purely an accident.

I’ll be honest—using fear-based arguments around health, like suggesting worst-case outcomes, doesn’t really help. I’d rather focus on facts, informed decisions, and what actually works for me.
 
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.@LevButlerov

Brother, I hear you—and I respect where you’re coming from. At the same time, I’ve got to be mindful of my wallet and find a practical balance.

If Umbrella Labs were more competitive with my current manufacturer, I’d absolutely consider going that route. But right now, I have to make decisions that make sense financially while still maintaining quality.

The source I’m using operates under IS 2123 standards, is government-regulated, and I’ve personally visited the facility and seen the manufacturing process firsthand. That gives me a high level of confidence in what I’m using. If I had any doubts at all, I wouldn’t hesitate to switch to a domestic source.

Also, as you know, India is one of the largest pharmaceutical hubs in the world. A significant portion of generic medications globally are manufactured there, and the quality control standards are rigorous and consistent.

There’s absolutely no disrespect intended toward anyone here—I’ve got a lot of respect for the Evo family. I’m just trying to find the right balance between cost, quality, and practicality, while still learning and applying the advice shared here.

And just to clarify on the surgery—the second one was due to a slip and fall where I landed on my arm and took the full impact. It wasn’t related to my training or peptides. That was purely an accident.

I’ll be honest—using fear-based arguments around health, like suggesting worst-case outcomes, doesn’t really help. I’d rather focus on facts, informed decisions, and what actually works for me.
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you used ai to write please dont use ai to write @rayray01 only write in your words going forward, we are a family I want to talk to you not an ai chat bot
 
rayray01 said:
Man sometimes it is easier to compose thoughts in a structured manner brother without sounding like a douche hence utilized it. That's all.
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lets talk as people going forward just us :D
 
rayray01 said:
Ok you got it, let me finish this bag out and when I go to buy the next one I will pick up brown rice for sure. I jist do not wish to waste it. But not going to lie man this 200 carbs is tough man. I am struggling. @LevButlerov
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tough as in hard? to get more or you want to eat less?
 
rayray01 said:
Quick question @LevButlerov, do bam15 arrived today. They are 15mg capsules. How and when should I take them in conjuction with slu-pp332. Please advise??
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as I said before I dont think you should add more to this stack until you fully recover
 
LevButlerov said:
tough as in hard? to get more or you want to eat less?
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I feel like not getting enough, but I need to find an alternative way fill myself with more chicken possibly because majority of my cards are just fruits and more fruits. And they digest fairly quickly I feel and leaves me feeling hungry again, or it may be because of slu-pp-332 too that is only thing that changed/added other than that clen and t3 i jabe done before but never felt hungry as a result of it. Oh got weighted vest cleared by physiotherapist, so.will go back to weighted vest incline walk from tomorrow so that will add additional intensity of the 30-45 mon session.

@LevButlerov
 
rayray01 said:
I feel like not getting enough, but I need to find an alternative way fill myself with more chicken possibly because majority of my cards are just fruits and more fruits. And they digest fairly quickly I feel and leaves me feeling hungry again, or it may be because of slu-pp-332 too that is only thing that changed/added other than that clen and t3 i jabe done before but never felt hungry as a result of it. Oh got weighted vest cleared by physiotherapist, so.will go back to weighted vest incline walk from tomorrow so that will add additional intensity of the 30-45 mon session.

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steamed veggies and broccoli large portion every meal and 1 tbps of psyllium husk 3x/day
 
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@LevButlerov,.not working upper body just grabbed the cable with 10lbs to pic taking purpose but more for the purpose of sharing the leaning process...down to 131lbs or 59kgs. I think last time I was this much must have been middle school... lol
 

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Warthog61 said:
Do you want to reach your goal? Dont think taste think diet. Eat some broccoli, you will get used to it.

Sometimes you have to suffer to get what you want right?
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Reading this should eat both. Besides in actuality I eat one meal a day if you look at my daily food log. Its hard as iti is to keep that under 200 gms carbs adding mlveggies makes it even more challenging task.
 

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rayray01 said:
Reading this should eat both. Besides in actuality I eat one meal a day if you look at my daily food log. Its hard as iti is to keep that under 200 gms carbs adding mlveggies makes it even more challenging task.
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If its OMAD maybe pull some fruit to eat some healthy powergreens. Just my opinion, you don't have to stick to a plate full of fruit and 4 small asparagus spears

There is always a way to overcome a challenge @rayray01

On my low days I am at 200g carbs and i have 5 meals, i couldnt eat that much food in one meal it all depends on the type of food you are eating, it's only as hard as you make it
 
Warthog61 said:
If its OMAD maybe pull some fruit to eat some healthy powergreens. Just my opinion, you don't have to stick to a plate full of fruit and 4 small asparagus spears

There is always a way to overcome a challenge @rayray01

On my low days I am at 200g carbs and i have 5 meals, i couldnt eat that much food in one meal it all depends on the type of food you are eating, it's only as hard as you make it
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You are right, I am creature of habit, once I have routine down I jist rinse and repeat. I am sure i can accomplish it, I jist have to gradually make changes and find my rhytm with it. Nothing is impossible. I have lost 72 lbs in last 16 months by doing what I needed to, and I am in the last mile, home stretch, I am sure I will figure it out, but there method to my madness, I just have to follow my method, that's all. But I am.thinking I do not need to loose anymore weight jist need to loose last pound or 2 of fat thats all.

@Warthog61
 
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You are right, I am creature of habit, once I have routine down I jist rinse and repeat. I am sure i can accomplish it, I jist have to gradually make changes and find my rhytm with it. Nothing is impossible. I have lost 72 lbs in last 16 months by doing what I needed to, and I am in the last mile, home stretch, I am sure I will figure it out, but there method to my madness, I just have to follow my method, that's all. But I am.thinking I do not need to loose anymore weight jist need to loose last pound or 2 of fat thats all.

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Good work for sure, i have followed you since you joined Evo. No matter your plan, a good mix of fruits and veggies are good all around. Plus it will help keep you fuller, seems how that was the original concern I had tried to address.

I will admit, I dont always eat veggies, mainly on those 200g carb days I do bcause it helps me thru the day, thats my point.

Do what works for you
 
Warthog61 said:
Good work for sure, i have followed you since you joined Evo. No matter your plan, a good mix of fruits and veggies are good all around. Plus it will help keep you fuller, seems how that was the original concern I had tried to address.

I will admit, I dont always eat veggies, mainly on those 200g carb days I do bcause it helps me thru the day, thats my point.

Do what works for you
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You will see in 2 or 3 weeks by making slight adjustment each week i will get there brother. I struggle with changing too many things at the same time so I change one thing and get it down in my routine and then on to the next change.
 
rayray01 said:
@LevButlerov,.not working upper body just grabbed the cable with 10lbs to pic taking purpose but more for the purpose of sharing the leaning process...down to 131lbs or 59kgs. I think last time I was this much must have been middle school... lol
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thats fine but please dont do upper body
you gave me half a heart attack when i opened it looking at you doing it lol :P
 
LevButlerov said:
good meal prep but needs more veggies can you handle more please?
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I think it took my Friday mounjaro shot to kick in i dont feel all that hungry anymore like I was earlier in the week, I think thst because my glp1 starts to wear off come Tuesday Wednesday and I get hungrier, hopefully the new dose will squash thst problem. I will also eat spinach and kale amd eventually broccoli on days i am really feeling the food noise, once cagrilintide is here that will also help with food noise and I will time as Friday my mounjaro, Tuesday cagrilintide amd Wednesday reta, that will keep me tight amd in line to meet my macros goal. I really enjoy my diet right now like I love eating this, it's do not want to change too much from it.

@LevButlerov
 
rayray01 said:
I think it took my Friday mounjaro shot to kick in i dont feel all that hungry anymore like I was earlier in the week, I think thst because my glp1 starts to wear off come Tuesday Wednesday and I get hungrier, hopefully the new dose will squash thst problem. I will also eat spinach and kale amd eventually broccoli on days i am really feeling the food noise, once cagrilintide is here that will also help with food noise and I will time as Friday my mounjaro, Tuesday cagrilintide amd Wednesday reta, that will keep me tight amd in line to meet my macros goal. I really enjoy my diet right now like I love eating this, it's do not want to change too much from it.

@LevButlerov
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lets see how it goes
 
Today's diet

Missed the 200gms carbs mark but still in decofit over all...
 

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LevButlerov said:
you dont need it right now you're ok with what you have :D
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I get that but you b know me I like to have stuff in stock just wanted to know if it is effective in fat burning, if so will order it and add it to my reserve.. I mean 95% of my reserve is stuff I do not need, but I get it for personal collection sake.. its no different than tren, have 6 vials, haven't used it, probably won't use it for a while but still got it in reserve. @LevButlerov
 
rayray01 said:
I get that but you b know me I like to have stuff in stock just wanted to know if it is effective in fat burning, if so will order it and add it to my reserve.. I mean 95% of my reserve is stuff I do not need, but I get it for personal collection sake.. its no different than tren, have 6 vials, haven't used it, probably won't use it for a while but still got it in reserve. @LevButlerov
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You should never use Tren but hey its your single Kidney, your life. Stop thinking about adding another compound and focus on recovery, diet and training.
 
rayray01 said:
I get that but you b know me I like to have stuff in stock just wanted to know if it is effective in fat burning, if so will order it and add it to my reserve.. I mean 95% of my reserve is stuff I do not need, but I get it for personal collection sake.. its no different than tren, have 6 vials, haven't used it, probably won't use it for a while but still got it in reserve. @LevButlerov
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dont buy and store, the products go bad fast
 
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You should never use Tren but hey its your single Kidney, your life. Stop thinking about adding another compound and focus on recovery, diet and training.
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Thanks for your input. @Warthog61. Every p.e.d is stressful for the kidney, I can't live life thinking about what if brother.
 
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Thanks for your input. @Warthog61. Every p.e.d is stressful for the kidney, I can't live life thinking about what if brother.
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no, specifically trenbolone is the worst of the worst thats what @Warthog61 means, you can get all your results and get ripped and lean without it :D @rayray01
 
rayray01 said:
Well I have $300 in-store credit at Naps then what should I use it for? I had thought of getting clen, t3, cardarine, and npp, if you think I should get something else, please do share.. @LevButlerov
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does it expire?
 
LevButlerov said:
no, specifically trenbolone is the worst of the worst thats what @Warthog61 means, you can get all your results and get ripped and lean without it :D @rayray01
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I get it but I will experience Tren A once in my life ( even if it is for 2 weeks) just for the sale of experiencing it when the time is right. Thsts all I wanna do, no saying i wanna go on a non stop cycle.of tren or anything like that.
 
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