Approved Log First Cycle Journal

[rayray01]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

 

[s.gentz]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

You need to tell us a bit more about yourself, your diet/training and your goals.
Is the 160mg/wk test TRT?
12 weeks of orals is def not the best idea for your organs.

 

[rayray01]

I am 47 yrs old, with one kidney, (lost the other one to cancer) full recovered. I work out 7 days a week, I weigh 150lbs. I eat very clean at home cooked food, usually run a calorie deficit with about 2000 calories intake. Yes you are correct, 160mg/wk test is TRT. Healthy liver, all other health indicators in blood work are on point. Hope that helps shed some more insight as requested. Goal is to bulk up slightly in arms and shoulders and legs, and get cut.

 

[rayray01]

Oh forgot to mention and hopefully go from 18% body fat to approx 11-12%

 

[rayray01]

If 12 weeks cycle is not good please advise what should I reduce it to as well? Like I said I am a rookie, so eager and willing to listen and learn.

 

[s.gentz]

I am 47 yrs old, with one kidney, (lost the other one to cancer) full recovered. I work out 7 days a week, I weigh 150lbs. I eat very clean at home cooked food, usually run a calorie deficit with about 2000 calories intake. Yes you are correct, 160mg/wk test is TRT. Healthy liver, all other health indicators in blood work are on point. Hope that helps shed some more insight as requested. Goal is to bulk up slightly in arms and shoulders and legs, and get cut.

Oh forgot to mention and hopefully go from 18% body fat to approx 11-12%

If 12 weeks cycle is not good please advise what should I reduce it to as well? Like I said I am a rookie, so eager and willing to listen and learn.

Ok, thanks for clarifying. If you are on TRT then there is no need to PCT per your narrative above. You would just go back to TRTR.
As far as the proposed cycle goes, you will be putting a lot of strain on your remaining kidney with the orals. Personally i would not use orals at all. You want to keep the one you have left healthy.
Have you ever used test at a higher dose than your TRT?
That would be a great cycle and easier on your body. 300-400mg/wk with proper diet/training would go a long way.
Is it Dr TRT or self?
I would get a log going so we can help tailor a training/diet/AAS plan for you.

 

[rayray01]

Thank you very much for taking the time and providing the requested guidance. I made the mistake and jumped the gum and ordered everything in oral form including PCT. The remaining kidney is working great, I will up my water intake as well in order to help its function. No sir I have not used Test at a higher dose, and yes it is prescribed by my urologist because my T levels came back low post blood work. How do you recommend I get started with creating a log book, if there are any examples available that would be really helpful, I can use that and made the necessary changes for myself. if you think I should reduce the cycle length now because stuff is already ordered please do let me know as to what you recommend and I will adhere to it. I also would like to bump up my Test to 300-400mg/wk along with possibly shortening the cycle if that would be an option?

 

[rayray01]

Thank you very much for taking the time to provide the requested guidance. I realize I made a mistake by eagerly ordering everything in oral form, including PCT. Whatever goes unused I’ll simply hold onto for a potential future cycle.

My remaining kidney is functioning well, and I will increase my water intake to help support it, given the additional stress this cycle may place on it. To answer your question, no—I have not used Test at a higher dose. Yes, it is prescribed by my urologist due to my bloodwork showing low T levels (240).

Could you please recommend how I should get started with creating a proper logbook? If you have any examples, that would be very helpful so I can adapt them to my own use. Also, since I’ve already ordered everything, do you suggest shortening the cycle length? I’m happy to follow whatever you recommend.

Finally, I’d also like your opinion on whether it would make sense to increase my Test dose to 300–400 mg per week, possibly in combination with a shorter cycle and lastly should i continue the peptides as shared in my post.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

Bro, I would take out all those orals out and just bump the Test to 400mg for 12 weeks. I'm assuming you're currently TRT based on that dose so you know how to pin and are used it. Dump the orals altogether and run a higher test cycle for 12 weeks. Better results and way easier on the body especially if this is your first go at it.

The mods will hop in here too and show you how to start a log so we can follow along and make sure you get the best results with feedback and what to add in terms of supplements, diet (super important), macros, training, etc. Tons of knowledge on here.

Welcome to EVO brother!

 

[rayray01]

Thank you @HarleyGuy, Damn man that was a waste of $1000 bucks worth of Orals, if test is all I needed. Any good and reliable source for test in US domestic that I can order, not sure my doc will be ok with my doing 400mg for 12 weeks or should I just ask him anyway? I checked Napsgear, do not see any US domestic for it, please advise?

 

[rayray01]

and in terms of my supplements, I take approx 170-180 gms of protiens everyday, and keep my macros in line, with approx 40-45% carbs, 40-45% protiens, and 10-20% fats.

 

[rayray01]

12-week training plan aligned to the cycle roadmap, this is what I had put together, I avoid free weights due to bad rotator cuff and knees, i do not wish to efff around and find out... lol.. Again this was for the ordered cycle...

• No free weights (so machines, cables, bands, and bodyweight).
• No squats, deadlifts, or similar big lifts (to avoid joint strain).

12-Week Cycle-Aligned Training Plan (Machines & Cables Only)​

Phase 1: Kickstart (Weeks 1–4 — Anadrol + Primobolan)​

Goal: Rapid strength & size, higher loads on controlled machines.

• Chest Press Machine – 4×8
• Incline Machine Press – 3×8–10
• Shoulder Press Machine – 4×8
• Lat Pulldown (Wide Grip) – 4×8–10
• Seated Row Machine – 3×8
• Leg Press Machine – 4×10
• Lying Leg Curl (Hamstring) – 3×10
• Calf Raise Machine – 4×12

Tip: Push heavier weight in lower rep ranges (6–8) to match the strength surge from Anadrol.

Phase 2: Lean Build (Weeks 5–8 — Anavar + Primobolan)​

Goal: Transition to hypertrophy, moderate weight with more volume.

• Incline Chest Fly (Cable or Pec Deck) – 4×10–12
• Arnold Press (Machine Version) – 3×10–12
• Cable Lateral Raises – 3×12–15
• Seated Row (Close Grip) – 4×10–12
• Lat Pulldown (Neutral Grip) – 3×10–12
• Leg Extension Machine – 4×12
• Seated Hamstring Curl – 3×12
• Glute Kickback (Cable or Machine) – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raise Machine – 4×15

Tip: Focus on time under tension (slower negatives) to maximize lean growth.

Phase 3: Hardening (Weeks 9–12 — Anavar + Primobolan)​

Goal: Muscle density, conditioning, and definition.

• Cable Chest Press (single-arm for isolation) – 3×12
• Machine Shoulder Press (lighter weight) – 3×12–15
• Cable Lateral Raises (drop set) – 3×15–20
• Straight Arm Pulldown (Cable) – 3×12–15
• Seated Row (light, higher reps) – 3×12–15
• Leg Press (higher reps, controlled) – 3×15–20
• Seated Leg Curl – 3×15–20
• Ab Crunch Machine – 4×15
• Cable Woodchoppers – 3×12–15 per side

Tip: More reps (12–20), supersets, and shorter rest to increase vascularity and conditioning.

Training Split (Use Across All Phases)​

• Day 1: Chest + Shoulders
• Day 2: Back + Biceps
• Day 3: Legs + Core
• Day 4: Chest + Arms
• Day 5: Back + Shoulders
• Day 6: Legs + Core
• Day 7: Conditioning Pump (lighter weight, circuits, abs, calves)

Key Guidelines​

• Machines & cables only = safer joint loading, consistent resistance.
• Progressive overload: Add weight slowly each week in phases 1–2.
• Phase transition: Shift from heavy → hypertrophy → conditioning.

 

[s.gentz]

Thank you very much for taking the time to provide the requested guidance. I realize I made a mistake by eagerly ordering everything in oral form, including PCT. Whatever goes unused I’ll simply hold onto for a potential future cycle.

My remaining kidney is functioning well, and I will increase my water intake to help support it, given the additional stress this cycle may place on it. To answer your question, no—I have not used Test at a higher dose. Yes, it is prescribed by my urologist due to my bloodwork showing low T levels (240).

Could you please recommend how I should get started with creating a proper logbook? If you have any examples, that would be very helpful so I can adapt them to my own use. Also, since I’ve already ordered everything, do you suggest shortening the cycle length? I’m happy to follow whatever you recommend.

Finally, I’d also like your opinion on whether it would make sense to increase my Test dose to 300–400 mg per week, possibly in combination with a shorter cycle and lastly should i continue the peptides as shared in my post.

The biggest issue I can see here is how long in between Dr bloods do you have? This will determine what you are able to do with enough time to get bloods in check.
As far as a log just click any of the links in my signature and it will take you to my past/present logs. You’re welcome to use them and a template.
As far as PCT you are on TRT so you will not be following a pct protocol. You just go back to TRT dose of test.

 

[rayray01]

Yeah, you’re right — the gap between bloods really is the big factor (at present done monthly, hence opted to go orals rather than Test route). That’s what’s going to set the pace on how much wiggle room there is to adjust and still land back in range before the next check which I think would be very challenging.

I’ll check out the logs in your sig, thanks for sharing those — using one of them as a template will make it way easier to keep track.

And good call on the PCT. Since I’m on TRT, I’ll just drop back down to my TRT dose once the run is over instead of following a full PCT protocol. At this point of time do you guys recommend to proceed with orals because bumping up Test is a very difficult option and just run blood work out of pocket to ensure liver and kidney function numbers are looking manageable and possibly shorten the cycle from 12 weeks to 8 weeks to minimize impact to respective organs.

 

[rayray01]

Yeah, you’re right — the gap between bloods really is the big factor (at present done monthly, hence opted to go orals rather than Test route). That’s what’s going to set the pace on how much wiggle room there is to adjust and still land back in range before the next check which I think would be very challenging.

I’ll check out the logs in your sig, thanks for sharing those — using one of them as a template will make it way easier to keep track.

And good call on the PCT. Since I’m on TRT, I’ll just drop back down to my TRT dose once the run is over instead of following a full PCT protocol. At this point of time do you guys recommend to proceed with orals because bumping up Test is a very difficult option and just run blood work out of pocket to ensure liver and kidney function numbers are looking manageable and possibly shorten the cycle from 12 weeks to 8 weeks to minimize impact to respective organs.

Heeded the advice shared and will be starting on 400mg/week test for the recommended cycle. Once again thank you for all the guidance and advice shared.

x

 

[rayray01]

Would there be muscle.loss and fat gain possibility post cycle completion?? And any potential side effects to keep an eye out for? Also is that 400mg/week total or 400 on top of my 160 trt?

 

[LevButlerov]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

I am 47 yrs old, with one kidney, (lost the other one to cancer) full recovered. I work out 7 days a week, I weigh 150lbs. I eat very clean at home cooked food, usually run a calorie deficit with about 2000 calories intake. Yes you are correct, 160mg/wk test is TRT. Healthy liver, all other health indicators in blood work are on point. Hope that helps shed some more insight as requested. Goal is to bulk up slightly in arms and shoulders and legs, and get cut.

Oh forgot to mention and hopefully go from 18% body fat to approx 11-12%

If 12 weeks cycle is not good please advise what should I reduce it to as well? Like I said I am a rookie, so eager and willing to listen and learn.

Thank you very much for taking the time and providing the requested guidance. I made the mistake and jumped the gum and ordered everything in oral form including PCT. The remaining kidney is working great, I will up my water intake as well in order to help its function. No sir I have not used Test at a higher dose, and yes it is prescribed by my urologist because my T levels came back low post blood work. How do you recommend I get started with creating a log book, if there are any examples available that would be really helpful, I can use that and made the necessary changes for myself. if you think I should reduce the cycle length now because stuff is already ordered please do let me know as to what you recommend and I will adhere to it. I also would like to bump up my Test to 300-400mg/wk along with possibly shortening the cycle if that would be an option?

Thank you very much for taking the time to provide the requested guidance. I realize I made a mistake by eagerly ordering everything in oral form, including PCT. Whatever goes unused I’ll simply hold onto for a potential future cycle.

My remaining kidney is functioning well, and I will increase my water intake to help support it, given the additional stress this cycle may place on it. To answer your question, no—I have not used Test at a higher dose. Yes, it is prescribed by my urologist due to my bloodwork showing low T levels (240).

Could you please recommend how I should get started with creating a proper logbook? If you have any examples, that would be very helpful so I can adapt them to my own use. Also, since I’ve already ordered everything, do you suggest shortening the cycle length? I’m happy to follow whatever you recommend.

Finally, I’d also like your opinion on whether it would make sense to increase my Test dose to 300–400 mg per week, possibly in combination with a shorter cycle and lastly should i continue the peptides as shared in my post.

Thank you @HarleyGuy, Damn man that was a waste of $1000 bucks worth of Orals, if test is all I needed. Any good and reliable source for test in US domestic that I can order, not sure my doc will be ok with my doing 400mg for 12 weeks or should I just ask him anyway? I checked Napsgear, do not see any US domestic for it, please advise?

and in terms of my supplements, I take approx 170-180 gms of protiens everyday, and keep my macros in line, with approx 40-45% carbs, 40-45% protiens, and 10-20% fats.

12-week training plan aligned to the cycle roadmap, this is what I had put together, I avoid free weights due to bad rotator cuff and knees, i do not wish to efff around and find out... lol.. Again this was for the ordered cycle...

• No free weights (so machines, cables, bands, and bodyweight).
• No squats, deadlifts, or similar big lifts (to avoid joint strain).

12-Week Cycle-Aligned Training Plan (Machines & Cables Only)​

Phase 1: Kickstart (Weeks 1–4 — Anadrol + Primobolan)​

Goal: Rapid strength & size, higher loads on controlled machines.

• Chest Press Machine – 4×8
• Incline Machine Press – 3×8–10
• Shoulder Press Machine – 4×8
• Lat Pulldown (Wide Grip) – 4×8–10
• Seated Row Machine – 3×8
• Leg Press Machine – 4×10
• Lying Leg Curl (Hamstring) – 3×10
• Calf Raise Machine – 4×12

Tip: Push heavier weight in lower rep ranges (6–8) to match the strength surge from Anadrol.

Phase 2: Lean Build (Weeks 5–8 — Anavar + Primobolan)​

Goal: Transition to hypertrophy, moderate weight with more volume.

• Incline Chest Fly (Cable or Pec Deck) – 4×10–12
• Arnold Press (Machine Version) – 3×10–12
• Cable Lateral Raises – 3×12–15
• Seated Row (Close Grip) – 4×10–12
• Lat Pulldown (Neutral Grip) – 3×10–12
• Leg Extension Machine – 4×12
• Seated Hamstring Curl – 3×12
• Glute Kickback (Cable or Machine) – 3×12–15
• Standing Calf Raise Machine – 4×15

Tip: Focus on time under tension (slower negatives) to maximize lean growth.

Phase 3: Hardening (Weeks 9–12 — Anavar + Primobolan)​

Goal: Muscle density, conditioning, and definition.

• Cable Chest Press (single-arm for isolation) – 3×12
• Machine Shoulder Press (lighter weight) – 3×12–15
• Cable Lateral Raises (drop set) – 3×15–20
• Straight Arm Pulldown (Cable) – 3×12–15
• Seated Row (light, higher reps) – 3×12–15
• Leg Press (higher reps, controlled) – 3×15–20
• Seated Leg Curl – 3×15–20
• Ab Crunch Machine – 4×15
• Cable Woodchoppers – 3×12–15 per side

Tip: More reps (12–20), supersets, and shorter rest to increase vascularity and conditioning.

Training Split (Use Across All Phases)​

• Day 1: Chest + Shoulders
• Day 2: Back + Biceps
• Day 3: Legs + Core
• Day 4: Chest + Arms
• Day 5: Back + Shoulders
• Day 6: Legs + Core
• Day 7: Conditioning Pump (lighter weight, circuits, abs, calves)

Key Guidelines​

• Machines & cables only = safer joint loading, consistent resistance.
• Progressive overload: Add weight slowly each week in phases 1–2.
• Phase transition: Shift from heavy → hypertrophy → conditioning.

Yeah, you’re right — the gap between bloods really is the big factor (at present done monthly, hence opted to go orals rather than Test route). That’s what’s going to set the pace on how much wiggle room there is to adjust and still land back in range before the next check which I think would be very challenging.

I’ll check out the logs in your sig, thanks for sharing those — using one of them as a template will make it way easier to keep track.

And good call on the PCT. Since I’m on TRT, I’ll just drop back down to my TRT dose once the run is over instead of following a full PCT protocol. At this point of time do you guys recommend to proceed with orals because bumping up Test is a very difficult option and just run blood work out of pocket to ensure liver and kidney function numbers are looking manageable and possibly shorten the cycle from 12 weeks to 8 weeks to minimize impact to respective organs.

Would there be muscle.loss and fat gain possibility post cycle completion?? And any potential side effects to keep an eye out for? Also is that 400mg/week total or 400 on top of my 160 trt?

welcome to the EVO family! @rayray01 and thank you for sharing.
Since you only have one kidney and a history of cancer, orals like Anadrol, Anavar, or Primobolan tabs are not safe options for you. Even if your bloodwork looks good now, that amount of oral stress will push your kidney and liver in the wrong direction and the risk isn’t worth it. Don’t feel bad about the order, everyone makes that mistake once, but the smartest move is not to run them.

Diet and training are already in a good spot. You’re consistent with clean meals but we need way more information on food.
Your training is all ai made, thats not going to work, chatgpt and other Ais lie and are dangerous to use for cycles.
Hitting 170–180g protein daily and keeping carbs and fats steady will support growth once the right cycle is in place. But we need to be very careful here.

Best cycle option for you is very simple: bump testosterone to 300–400mg a week and pair it with Equipoise at 100–200mg a week. That combo is far safer for your kidney than running multiple orals and will still let you gain lean tissue while keeping your bodyfat in check. When you’re done, just drop back to your TRT dose. No PCT needed since you’re on prescription test already. That way you’ll grow, stay healthy, and avoid the long-term risks that orals would bring you.

supplements
you taking n2guard for kidney liver organ health?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

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[rayray01]

supplements
you taking n2guard for kidney liver organ health? I take kidney cleanse, liver detox and tudca
what digestive supps you use? none
digestive enzymes?
multis? Potassium, magnesium
probiotics? None
psyllium husk? Yes fiber pills

I have a fairly basic gym routine, hit every stations, do 3-4 sets 8-12 reps, utilized chat gpt to add more variations to the routine and vi e it more structure.

Will testosterone 300-400mg and Equipoise at 100–200mg a week, help with fat loss and bulking up? Please advice.

Thank you for your time and guidance.

 

[LevButlerov]

upplements
you taking n2guard for kidney liver organ health? I take kidney cleanse, liver detox and tudca
what digestive supps you use? none
digestive enzymes?
multis? Potassium, magnesium
probiotics? None
psyllium husk? Yes fiber pills

please post pics of all your supps for us @rayray01

I have a fairly basic gym routine, hit every stations, do 3-4 sets 8-12 reps, utilized chat gpt to add more variations to the routine and vi e it more structure.

dont use chatgpt, lets start with adding cardio first.

Will testosterone 300-400mg and Equipoise at 100–200mg a week, help with fat loss and bulking up? Please advice.

It will help but diet and cardio and training are key not gear.

Thank you for your time and guidance.

EVO family here to support you @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

I do incline walking everyday for about 45 mins, have lost 50lbs since Jan, which i intend to continue doing so. I make sure I hit 15k step everyday. For lunch and dinner, I eat healthy choice meal or moms cooking with portion control,lol

 

[rayray01]

I also log my workout using fitnotes, fitbit and a smart scale. Nothing fancy but do my best to keep track of things even log in my food intake in fitbit.

 

[Mobster]

Allowing for the half lives of most orals I'm not seeing a benefit to the idea (I've seen this before) of orals pre-workout

 

[rayray01]

Allowing for the half lives of most orals I'm not seeing a benefit to the idea (I've seen this before) of orals pre-workout

I apologize for my ignorance, iI am confused, I believe you are also advising not to go orals?? Or is it that taking orals before working out is not effective?

 

[stevesmi]

primobull i'm assuming is oral primo. if so it really isn't gonna be optimal. its a very weak

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

@rayray01 this is a good setup. but as i said in the other thread you won't get much from oral primo. its really for females as it doesn't absorb well

 

[rayray01]

Aah ok. I pretty much bought all the wrong things... lol lesson learnt. Will have bunch of gear of no use to me...

 

[ceo]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

bros stacking 2 orals sort of hardcore. i would drop the anadrol to 25mgs though. @rayray01 cause anadrol alone pretty harsh

 

[2Thick]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

your pct needs work. you should be adding hcgenerate. you need a strong t booster in there @rayray01

 

[Ulter]

Would there be muscle.loss and fat gain possibility post cycle completion?? And any potential side effects to keep an eye out for? Also is that 400mg/week total or 400 on top of my 160 trt?

@rayray01 Everybody's gonna be a little bit different, it's important to log it for that reason. This way, you can document how your body reacts this time and how it may react in the future.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

what is the purpose of stacking 2 dht's together? anadrol should be ran solo. @rayray01 there is no need to bother with the other 2 things

 

[rayray01]

what is the purpose of stacking 2 dht's together? anadrol should be ran solo. @rayray01 there is no need to bother with the other 2 things

I am just trying to find out the best way to add about 5-7lbs of lean muscle mass and get cut. Now I am even more confused because I have received some really good advise but they are all slightly different. lol, I am not sure what to do or which one to take.


GP Oxy (Anadrol/Anapolon) - Oral
Anavar 50 - Oral
Anavar 10 - Oral
Primobull 25 - Oral
T-XT 400 - Injectable
Quant-Equipoise 300 - Injectable

I am not sure which one's to take and in which order to get the desired results, I wish to be sure so i start it correctly and complete the cycle accordingly.

I truly appreciate everyone's time and guidance but now I am even more confused than before I started and that is due to my lack on knowledge on the subject hence here to seek guidance from senior and more experienced members such as yourself. Please advise.

 

[ROIDDERS]

I am just trying to find out the best way to add about 5-7lbs of lean muscle mass and get cut. Now I am even more confused because I have received some really good advise but they are all slightly different. lol, I am not sure what to do or which one to take.


GP Oxy (Anadrol/Anapolon) - Oral
Anavar 50 - Oral
Anavar 10 - Oral
Primobull 25 - Oral
T-XT 400 - Injectable
Quant-Equipoise 300 - Injectable

I am not sure which one's to take and in which order to get the desired results, I wish to be sure so i start it correctly and complete the cycle accordingly.

I truly appreciate everyone's time and guidance but now I am even more confused than before I started and that is due to my lack on knowledge on the subject hence here to seek guidance from senior and more experienced members such as yourself. Please advise.

well let me cut to the chase. have you used anadrol before? if no then no need to run anything with it anyway. if yes, then you would know that it works great solo. it works better solo less sides

 

[rayray01]

No sir I have not used anything before I am just on TRT for 160mg/weekly, hence requesting guidance. I am open to which ones to take and in which order, do i need to stack or not stack them, how long should be the cycle? Just wish to finalize the best option and stick to it based on senior and experienced members advise.

 

[rayray01]

Based on the suggestions and recommendations this is what the final mock up of the cycle looks like, please advise on any changes or recommendations to it? Once again thanks to everyone who took the time and provided guidance and advice.

 

[LevButlerov]

No sir I have not used anything before I am just on TRT for 160mg/weekly, hence requesting guidance. I am open to which ones to take and in which order, do i need to stack or not stack them, how long should be the cycle? Just wish to finalize the best option and stick to it based on senior and experienced members advise.

Since you’re only on TRT right now, the best move for a first real run is to keep it simple with just test. You’re already on 160 a week, so you could bump that up into the 300–400 range for 12–16 weeks and see how your body responds before thinking about adding other compounds. That way you know what test alone does for you and you’ll avoid layering in sides you don’t need yet.

No need to stack right away, focus on diet and training to support growth, keep bloods checked, and build a baseline. Once you’ve run test alone and know how you feel, then you can think about stacking in something like primo or NPP down the line if your goals call for it.

 

[LevButlerov]

View attachment 124853

Based on the suggestions and recommendations this is what the final mock up of the cycle looks like, please advise on any changes or recommendations to it? Once again thanks to everyone who took the time and provided guidance and advice.

I dont think you should go with orals right away imo

 

[rayray01]

Since you’re only on TRT right now, the best move for a first real run is to keep it simple with just test. You’re already on 160 a week, so you could bump that up into the 300–400 range for 12–16 weeks and see how your body responds before thinking about adding other compounds. That way you know what test alone does for you and you’ll avoid layering in sides you don’t need yet.

No need to stack right away, focus on diet and training to support growth, keep bloods checked, and build a baseline. Once you’ve run test alone and know how you feel, then you can think about stacking in something like primo or NPP down the line if your goals call for it.

Yes that makes sense. What about Equipoise? I ordered it post yesterday's recommendation....

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes that makes sense. What about Equipoise? I ordered it post yesterday's recommendation....

You can do low dose EQ 100mgs not much. Go slow.

 

[rayray01]

You can do low dose EQ 100mgs not much. Go slow.

Got it. Lets start there then. Thank you once again for all your help amd guidance. Much appreciated.

 

[LevButlerov]

Got it. Lets start there then. Thank you once again for all your help amd guidance. Much appreciated.

Lets start with doing daily training macro updates, can you do that? @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Will definitely try my best to do it.

 

[rayray01]

Got my bloodwork done yesterday, my test is running high as it is, will it be ok if I bump it up to 400mg/week. This is already high and I habe not even started on it.

 

[ballin2504]

@rayray01 nice start man already a lot of good help already happening

 

[toddthelineman]

Got my bloodwork done yesterday, my test is running high as it is, will it be ok if I bump it up to 400mg/week. This is already high and I habe not even started on it.

Well it’s barely high. When you’re on cycle it will be multiples higher than that. Like way over 2000 ng/dl. Maybe closer to 3000. The question is, are you still progressing easily towards your goals? If so, you may want to wait until you’re stalled for your cycle. But do you.

 

[rayray01]

Oh ok, good to know so...man I can barely lift anything heavy, so missing strength, i just lift light weight nothing over 35lbs dumbell, but I have an injured shoulder, carrying it with a.cortizone shot every 3.month. besides my goal is slight bulk with lean mass and cut.

 

[toddthelineman]

Oh ok, good to know so...man I can barely lift anything heavy, so missing strength, i just lift light weight nothing over 35lbs dumbell, but I have an injured shoulder, carrying it with a.cortizone shot every 3.month. besides my goal is slight bulk with lean mass and cut.

I don’t lift heavy either, I have many injuries.

Please search “corticosteroids and joint deterioration”

Your doctor is harming you. It happened to me too. You can’t keep getting them like that.

You should be able to gain mass nice and steady with diet, training, and your current hormones. Play it safe man. You’ve got real issues. Let time work for you. You’re going to keep improving, you can increase your dose just keep up with your bloodwork.

 

[rayray01]

I don’t lift heavy either, I have many injuries.

Please search “corticosteroids and joint deterioration”

Your doctor is harming you. It happened to me too. You can’t keep getting them like that.

You should be able to gain mass nice and steady with diet, training, and your current hormones. Play it safe man. You’ve got real issues. Let time work for you. You’re going to keep improving, you can increase your dose just keep up with your bloodwork.

I hear yea man, I got an mri scheduled on the 17th, just hoping it does not require a surgery, so keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[toddthelineman]

I hear yea man, I got an mri scheduled on the 17th, just hoping it does not require a surgery, so keeping my fingers crossed.

Better that than repeated shots. That’s a deal with the devil.

 

[25homes]

Here is what I have come up with post my research, please feel free to advise any changes as you feel fit.​

Testosterone C - 160mg weekly dose on an ongoing basis.​

Weeks 1–4 ​

• Anadrol (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Anavar (10 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 5–8

• Drop Anadrol (to protect liver).
• Anavar starts - (50 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach
• Primobull continues (25 mg) 1 daily - 1 hour before workout on empty stomach

Weeks 9–12

• Anavar (50 mg) + Primobull (25mg) continue.

PCT
(Weeks 13-16)

• Clomid 50 - 50mg - 1 daily

Also along with this, I intend to keep up with CJC-1295 w/DAC once a week (1mg), Ipamorelin (Daily) 300 mcg, and Sermorlin Daily ( 500 mcg).

Seeking guidance as it is my first cycle and open to suggestions and recommendations.

How you been feeling Bru

 

[rayray01]

Yea I a

Better that than repeated shots. That’s a deal with the devil.

Agreed. gonna get it done, whatever the best course of action that is required.

 

[rayray01]

How you been feeling Bru

Feeling good, if you are inquiring about how i feel upon starting the cycle, well I am waiting on Equipoise300 and txt400 to get here to actually stsrt it. Waiting on naps

 

[LevButlerov]

Got my bloodwork done yesterday, my test is running high as it is, will it be ok if I bump it up to 400mg/week. This is already high and I habe not even started on it.

You can bump to 300mgs to start, sounds good? @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Sure sounds good.. will roll with 300mg/week

 

[LevButlerov]

Sure sounds good.. will roll with 300mg/week

waiting on your training updates

 

[rayray01]

waiting on your training updates

I have not started the cycle but can pay my routine from today

 

[LevButlerov]

I have not started the cycle but can pay my routine from today

Yes start sharing diet training cycle or not

 

[rayray01]

Food macros from yesterday, I run a decifit in order to lose the belly fat and get to my ideal body weight of 142lbs. Attached is my daily weigh in and also included my progress tracker from when I bought it and started tracking, overall started the journey from 201lbs down to 149 lbs now.

 

[LevButlerov]

Food macros from yesterday, I run a decifit in order to lose the belly fat and get to my ideal body weight of 142lbs. Attached is my daily weigh in and also included my progress tracker from when I bought it and started tracking, overall started the journey from 201lbs down to 149 lbs now.

Lets bump protein to 200 ok?

 

[rayray01]

Sure I can do that...

 

[LevButlerov]

Sure I can do that...

Perfect update after

 

[rayray01]

Man my stuff from napsgear even domestic items are taking 21 days and several orders despite been several days have not been shipped. Does it usually take this long? I thought the whole point of paying more for domestic was you get the stuff quicker.... I even raised a ticket about it but have not heard anything word back from them.

 

[rayray01]

The stuff I had ordered from UK was here on Wednesday but US Domestic from Naps is still not here , am so ready to start...lol the stuff from UK is Anadrol and Anavar which I am not suppose to take... smh. So tempted!!!!!

 

[LevButlerov]

Man my stuff from napsgear even domestic items are taking 21 days and several orders despite been several days have not been shipped. Does it usually take this long? I thought the whole point of paying more for domestic was you get the stuff quicker.... I even raised a ticket about it but have not heard anything word back from them.

The stuff I had ordered from UK was here on Wednesday but US Domestic from Naps is still not here , am so ready to start...lol the stuff from UK is Anadrol and Anavar which I am not suppose to take... smh. So tempted!!!!!

Napsgear has a rep here @jasonhill800 I'll tag him.

Lets get him to respond first @rayray01

The UK anadrol is not enough don't use it please.

 

[rayray01]

I finally heard from this evening again Anavar 50 will show up on Monday.... but test400 and eq are yet to be shipped so hopefully will be done soon. Thank you, good looking out.

 

[rayray01]

Today's workout and food macros, plus 45 min morning walk and 45 min evening walk as well

 

[rayray01]

Today's workout

 

[toddthelineman]

@rayray01 you’re eating cereal 2-3 times a day And the VAST majority of your protein comes from whey protein powder.

How about adding more meat? Like you know, a big steak, a half or a whole chicken, big plate of shrimp or just cod. Maybe 6-10 eggs a day for a budget. Or a pound of ground beef.

I strongly feel that you need this regularly and over the long term. Like forever, gear or not, but especially with gear.

Please don’t be offended, but you are eating very very light. You’re not going to build a strong body with cereal as your staple. If I switched to your diet I would wither away rapidly. You can eat much bigger, and you will feel better and recover much better and you will be healthier I guarantee it.

 

[rayray01]

Man I only eat chicken, I do not do.red meat, or sea food bit can definitely add more eggs in my diet. I agree with adding variety in terms of protein consumed. I just reduced my intake to create a calorie deficit is. Order to.loose body fat. I will definitely try to add more wholesome food. Living alone I just take the easy way out

 

[rayray01]

Plus being on mounjaro deoa not help either... I will try harder to eat better

 

[toddthelineman]

Man I only eat chicken, I do not do.red meat, or sea food bit can definitely add more eggs in my diet. I agree with adding variety in terms of protein consumed. I just reduced my intake to create a calorie deficit is. Order to.loose body fat. I will definitely try to add more wholesome food. Living alone I just take the easy way out

That’s very understandable. So, as you workout more and more, especially now that you’ve got hormone support, you really will get much better results by feeding your muscle. You don’t want to lose weight so much as you want to recomp. You are trying to add muscle, so a steep deficit is only going to get you hurt as you get stronger. It’s almost impossible to create body fat out of lean protein, but really hard to build muscle without it.

 

[rayray01]

Roger that.... bout to eat KFC like it's going out of style.... lol just kidding... Will double down on some Mediterranean chicken kabobs and chicken tikkas, hopefully that will be helpful. Bring a fast person at point of time I literally am scared to eat thinking I will gain weight again.

 

[toddthelineman]

Roger that.... bout to eat KFC like it's going out of style.... lol just kidding... Will double down on some Mediterranean chicken kabobs and chicken tikkas

Niiiiice!

 

[Noah Wixx]

As you have ije healthy remaining kidney all orals are out of the question imo, not good to hammer the one you have remaining, personally id just bladt 500 test for 12 weeks keep it easy keep it simple, trust me i know from experience you will grow on 500 test, add in some aromasin an anti estrogen medication or your preferred AI of choice and smooth sailing for 12 weeks.

 

[rayray01]

How much arona should I take one each day or last 4 walks of the cycle?

 

[LevButlerov]

I finally heard from this evening again Anavar 50 will show up on Monday.... but test400 and eq are yet to be shipped so hopefully will be done soon. Thank you, good looking out.

t400 you mean 400mgs/ml?

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's workout and food macros, plus 45 min morning walk and 45 min evening walk as well

Today's workout

Your fats can go up at least 30 grams same with protein around +50.
can you do more cardio? @rayray01

 

[LevButlerov]

How much arona should I take one each day or last 4 walks of the cycle?

You mean aromasin?

 

[rayray01]

What are your thoughts if we go this route
500mg or even as high as 700mg/week - Testosterone (12 weeks) injectable
250mg/week - Equipoise or Primo (12 weeks) injectable - whichever is better
350mg/week - Anavar ( finisher - last 4 weeks)

Finish it with Aromapex 25 (4 weeks)

Really wish to.push it hard and see where i end up at. May possibly be the first and only.cycle I do, hence wish to maximize it. But will do as you all advice.

Kindly share your thoughts.

Thanks for all your time and guidance as always

 

[rayray01]

Today's doet

 

[LevButlerov]

What are your thoughts if we go this route
500mg or even as high as 700mg/week - Testosterone (12 weeks) injectable
250mg/week - Equipoise or Primo (12 weeks) injectable - whichever is better
350mg/week - Anavar ( finisher - last 4 weeks)

Finish it with Aromapex 25 (4 weeks)

Really wish to.push it hard and see where i end up at. May possibly be the first and only.cycle I do, hence wish to maximize it. But will do as you all advice.

Kindly share your thoughts.

Thanks for all your time and guidance as always

I dont like it.

I think this is what you need.
300mgs testosterone
100mgs equipoise
/week

once you're 2-3 weeks into this we can readjust @rayray01

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's doet

Get protein up.

 

[rayray01]

More protien 268g, I am like 150 lbs, ideally would like to stay at 155lbs but mean myscle mass and lose the 5- 7lbs of fat i got. How many grams should I target for protien, please advice and I will hit that number everyday

 

[rayray01]

Cycle kick off day,!!

 

[rayray01]

Today's Workoit... seems like i am spending a lot of time there and it does not account for my morning gym time which is a different facility.

 

[rayray01]

First 100mg Testosterone C

@rayray01 you’re eating cereal 2-3 times a day And the VAST majority of your protein comes from whey protein powder.

How about adding more meat? Like you know, a big steak, a half or a whole chicken, big plate of shrimp or just cod. Maybe 6-10 eggs a day for a budget. Or a pound of ground beef.

I strongly feel that you need this regularly and over the long term. Like forever, gear or not, but especially with gear.

Please don’t be offended, but you are eating very very light. You’re not going to build a strong body with cereal as your staple. If I switched to your diet I would wither away rapidly. You can eat much bigger, and you will feel better and recover much better and you will be healthier I guarantee it.

Prepped enough chicken kabobs for next 2 weeks goal is to.eat atleast 200gms more.of chicken everyday

 

[toddthelineman]

First 100mg Testosterone C

Prepped enough chicken kabobs for next 2 weeks goal is to.eat atleast 200gms more.of chicken everyday

Much better! You’ll be glad you did that for sure.

So no red meat ever huh? No lamb or anything like that? Is this a cultural thing or have you been convinced it’s bad for you?
It’s pretty good for you, unless there’s a survivor reason you can’t eat it like alpha gal syndrome or something wild like that. Lamb is especially good because it’s always grass finished. I’ll leaner you alone about it, I just want to make sure someone says it. It’s not poisonous at all. It’s very good for your goals. It could possible to eat too much, but only because of other combined factors like existing and severe atherosclerosis , which would absolutely preclude you from doing any kind of cycle any way

 

[toddthelineman]

Much better! You’ll be glad you did that for sure.

So no red meat ever huh? No lamb or anything like that? Is this a cultural thing or have you been convinced it’s bad for you?
It’s pretty good for you, unless there’s a survivor reason you can’t eat it like alpha gal syndrome or something wild like that. Lamb is especially good because it’s always grass finished. I’ll leaner you alone about it, I just want to make sure someone says it. It’s not poisonous at all. It’s very good for your goals. It could possible to eat too much, but only because of other combined factors like existing and severe atherosclerosis , which would absolutely preclude you from doing any kind of cycle any way

I’m sure the chicken is going to work great for you. This is going to be excellent for your cycle. You can see in my first log, as I continued to eat 400g and more of protein a day consistently I got much leaner and more muscular at the same time. I wasn’t lifting anything crazy and I started from a good place, but I had never made progress quite like that before and it was the protein that did it, the one variable that I never had Consistently for long term. Mind you I actually LOWERED my test dose early in that log, but gained muscle and lost fat. That was an amazing experiment and success

 

[rayray01]

Much better! You’ll be glad you did that for sure.

So no red meat ever huh? No lamb or anything like that? Is this a cultural thing or have you been convinced it’s bad for you?
It’s pretty good for you, unless there’s a survivor reason you can’t eat it like alpha gal syndrome or something wild like that. Lamb is especially good because it’s always grass finished. I’ll leaner you alone about it, I just want to make sure someone says it. It’s not poisonous at all. It’s very good for your goals. It could possible to eat too much, but only because of other combined factors like existing and severe atherosclerosis , which would absolutely preclude you from doing any kind of cycle any way

No man not cultural thing everyone in my family eats everything except pork, its just me, I am the odd one out...lol. I used to.do.steaks but stopped due to.high bp and cholesteral.issue but both are under control now, I jist have not started.eating it again. Amd I only ate that stuff at the restaurant coz my wife is vegetarian so no one cooks that stuff at gome unless I do. I have just been lazy, plus I am very.picky about how my.meat is and all. Hence just kept it simple with chicken only.

So no red meat ever huh? No lamb or anything like that? Is this a cultural thing or have you been convinced it’s bad for you?
It’s pretty good for you, unless there’s a survivor reason you can’t eat it like alpha gal syndrome or something wild like that. Lamb is especially good because it’s always grass finished. I’ll leaner you alone about it, I just want to make sure someone says it. It’s not poisonous at all. It’s very good for your goals. It could possible to eat too much, but only because of other combined factors like existing and severe atherosclerosis , which would absolutely preclude you from doing any kind of cycle any way

 

[rayray01]

I’m sure the chicken is going to work great for you. This is going to be excellent for your cycle. You can see in my first log, as I continued to eat 400g and more of protein a day consistently I got much leaner and more muscular at the same time. I wasn’t lifting anything crazy and I started from a good place, but I had never made progress quite like that before and it was the protein that did it, the one variable that I never had Consistently for long term. Mind you I actually LOWERED my test dose early in that log, but gained muscle and lost fat. That was an amazing experiment and success

Right on i am about to up my.protien to 400gms a day too...that's easy for me, just add one extra scoop with each shake that alone will get me close to that and chicken kabobs wraps.will.definitely.oush me over 400.

 

[toddthelineman]

Right on i am about to up my.protien to 400gms a day too...that's easy for me, just add one extra scoop with each shake that alone will get me close to that and chicken kabobs wraps.will.definitely.oush me over 400.

Yes bro, do it! If you can digest it that much right off the bat you are good to go

 

[rayray01]

Today's diet, starting tomorrow 400gms pf.protien going in

 

[LevButlerov]

More protien 268g, I am like 150 lbs, ideally would like to stay at 155lbs but mean myscle mass and lose the 5- 7lbs of fat i got. How many grams should I target for protien, please advice and I will hit that number everyday

I think 268 is good for you stay there for now

Today's Workoit... seems like i am spending a lot of time there and it does not account for my morning gym time which is a different facility.

Good training day, how much total cardio for the day?

First 100mg Testosterone C

Prepped enough chicken kabobs for next 2 weeks goal is to.eat atleast 200gms more.of chicken everyday

Nice clean meals!

 

[jasonhill800]

Man my stuff from napsgear even domestic items are taking 21 days and several orders despite been several days have not been shipped. Does it usually take this long? I thought the whole point of paying more for domestic was you get the stuff quicker.... I even raised a ticket about it but have not heard anything word back from them.

Apologizes for the delay brother, please send me your order number in pm.

 

[stevesmi]

Today's Workoit... seems like i am spending a lot of time there and it does not account for my morning gym time which is a different facility.

@rayray01 what is the deal with the rankings? does the gym track all that? pretty cool stuff lol

 

[ceo]

First 100mg Testosterone C

Prepped enough chicken kabobs for next 2 weeks goal is to.eat atleast 200gms more.of chicken everyday

bros hell yeah that looks good! i love chicken kabobs. tastes good next few days too if prepped right @rayray01

 

[2Thick]

Today's Workoit... seems like i am spending a lot of time there and it does not account for my morning gym time which is a different facility.

so basically you are spending the most time at the gym. PLUS you are spending more time at another gym @rayray01 You are definitely putting in the hours, good job on that it shows, the type of commitment you have

 

[ROIDDERS]

Today's Workoit... seems like i am spending a lot of time there and it does not account for my morning gym time which is a different facility.

@rayray01 Seems like a really tough workout on your legs. I'm sure you woke up this morning when you got out of bed and you were a little bit sore. But that is great. I'm glad you're pushing yourself and to improve

 

[Ulter]

Today's Workoit... seems like i am spending a lot of time there and it does not account for my morning gym time which is a different facility.

you and whoever kathleen is need to spend time together at the gym. both of you spend more time there then everyone else combined lol. good job on the dedication @rayray01

 

[rayray01]

Apologizes for the delay brother, please send me your order number in pm.

I believe I am all sorted out now sir, thank you so very much for following up with me. Few orders are in route and am sure the remaining will be shipped shortly as well. Sent you order numbers incase of you wish to review.

 

[rayray01]

@rayray01 what is the deal with the rankings? does the gym track all that? pretty cool stuff lol

Yea so the gym has E-Gym system where if you use Matrix Machines or Peleton Machines they are uatimatically tracked and logged. Which is pretty cool. Personally did not pay much attention to it till late last month, but it is a pretty cool tech, shows how many sets, time, how long, all kinds of details.

 

[rayray01]

so basically you are spending the most time at the gym. PLUS you are spending more time at another gym @rayray01 You are definitely putting in the hours, good job on that it shows, the type of commitment you have

I surely got the commitment part down, hopefully the results will also follow..lol. I am just being silly, they are slowly and steadily I have been making progress, hopefully with everyone's help here, and incorporating the correct advise and tips, I can get there in a more efficient way.