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Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
 

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GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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good start :D @GST thank you for sharing, please add some pics of you face blurred so we understand your base and what you're working with and we can approve the log.
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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Hey bro,

Good start to the log and great work
In posting your bloods. I feel we’d need to look more into your diet. Calories and when you are eating what. If you have a carb dense lunch you’ll likely feel like you have limited energy not too long after eating it. As you’d know not all carbs, fats and protein are created equal. So the macros don’t look bad but without where you are getting them from it’s hard to tell.

Your total and free testosterone seems off, way too high for the amount you are taking. Are you using other compounds? If not you could be a super responder.


Your e2 is a little high aswell, not a bad ratio to the testosterone though maybe consider aromasin at 6.25mg eod and see how it lands on your next bloods. People respond differently to different levels of e2 could be partly responsible for the fatigue or wear retention if you’re experiencing any.

Also, ezetimibe 10mg a day. Your ldl is consistently high. Part of the reason why I think your diet may be off aswell and could be causing this fatigue.

You could maybe look into some mitochondrial optimising peptides aswel if these fixes don’t work.
Mots-C, Ss-31, NAD+. NAD+ gives me a more sustained energy throughout the day.

Look forward to seeing your future posts bro 💪
 
jenkemj said:
Hey bro,

Good start to the log and great work
In posting your bloods. I feel we’d need to look more into your diet. Calories and when you are eating what. If you have a carb dense lunch you’ll likely feel like you have limited energy not too long after eating it. As you’d know not all carbs, fats and protein are created equal. So the macros don’t look bad but without where you are getting them from it’s hard to tell.

Your total and free testosterone seems off, way too high for the amount you are taking. Are you using other compounds? If not you could be a super responder.


Your e2 is a little high aswell, not a bad ratio to the testosterone though maybe consider aromasin at 6.25mg eod and see how it lands on your next bloods. People respond differently to different levels of e2 could be partly responsible for the fatigue or wear retention if you’re experiencing any.

Also, ezetimibe 10mg a day. Your ldl is consistently high. Part of the reason why I think your diet may be off aswell and could be causing this fatigue.

You could maybe look into some mitochondrial optimising peptides aswel if these fixes don’t work.
Mots-C, Ss-31, NAD+. NAD+ gives me a more sustained energy throughout the day.

Look forward to seeing your future posts bro 💪
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The fatigue starts before lunch for me and I usually have a fruit and Protein bar 2 hrs before lunch.

Only on hcg and test. I did an injection a day prior to the blood test so hence I believe the number is incorrect. My shbg is high I feel because trt is supposed to suppress to a degree but it’s on the high normal side.

The fatigue happened after my first week of starting TRT like literally 1 week after my first injection.

I’ll take those peptides into consideration and look into them
 
GST said:
The fatigue starts before lunch for me and I usually have a fruit and Protein bar 2 hrs before lunch.

Only on hcg and test. I did an injection a day prior to the blood test so hence I believe the number is incorrect. My shbg is high I feel because trt is supposed to suppress to a degree but it’s on the high normal side.

The fatigue happened after my first week of starting TRT like literally 1 week after my first injection.

I’ll take those peptides into consideration and look
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yeah it’s a hard hopefully a few more people have experienced it. I feel like trt should give you more energy. Atleast it did in my case. Try the cheapest options first haha
 
GST said:
I’ll post those later today or tomorrow but I’ll have to blurry my arms as well because I don’t want anyone I know seeing my tattoos
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no problem blur our the tats :D looking forward to it @GST
 
LevButlerov said:
no problem blur our the tats :D looking forward to it @GST
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Im late on this. Currently I am thinking of doing trt on my own and buying from a good source. I don’t feel my doctor is doing a good job, and I am paying him out of pocket for meh work.

Update on the sleep, it’s now become to the point I am getting up at 6:15am everyday regardless of when I sleep and can’t really fall asleep after getting up.
 

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GST said:
Im late on this. Currently I am thinking of doing trt on my own and buying from a good source. I don’t feel my doctor is doing a good job, and I am paying him out of pocket for meh work.

Update on the sleep, it’s now become to the point I am getting up at 6:15am everyday regardless of when I sleep and can’t really fall asleep after getting up.
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Thanks for the base physique pics @GST and good first post for your log.

You'll be in the mod que for log approval and then we'll get you up and running. Looking forward to following along and helping you out with TRT. I highly recommend doing self TRT vs. working with a family doctor who are often much less informed than what you'll enjoy here which is a wealth of knowledge and experience.
 
HarleyGuy said:
Thanks for the base physique pics @GST and good first post for your log.

You'll be in the mod que for log approval and then we'll get you up and running. Looking forward to following along and helping you out with TRT. I highly recommend doing self TRT vs. working with a family doctor who are often much less informed than what you'll enjoy here which is a wealth of knowledge and experience.
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Thank you HarleGuy.

It’s not my family doctor, I’m going through a wellness clinic in a sense. I pay him to be my trt doctor, a few thousand a year but he doesn’t believe in checking shbg or albumin or other markers. Told him for having levels of 2971pmol/l my shbg is at 45 and it should be more suppressed but I’m not and my levels don’t make sense to me either
 
GST said:
Thank you HarleGuy.

It’s not my family doctor, I’m going through a wellness clinic in a sense. I pay him to be my trt doctor, a few thousand a year but he doesn’t believe in checking shbg or albumin or other markers. Told him for having levels of 2971pmol/l my shbg is at 45 and it should be more suppressed but I’m not and my levels don’t make sense to me either
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Wellness clinics are even worse and it sounds like you've got yourself a real doozy of a wellness doc there (and by that I mean a quack doc!). You 100% need shbg and about a dozen other markers.

If you start up a TRT log here we have bloodwork threads I will point you to on what bloodwork to get and we can then dial you in on the proper TRT dose using scientific methods and incorporating your diet, training and supplementation as well. You will get way more out of using EVO that any wellness clinic and the only thing we charge is that you smile :p
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
Click to expand...

GST said:
Im late on this. Currently I am thinking of doing trt on my own and buying from a good source. I don’t feel my doctor is doing a good job, and I am paying him out of pocket for meh work.

Update on the sleep, it’s now become to the point I am getting up at 6:15am everyday regardless of when I sleep and can’t really fall asleep after getting up.
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welcome fully to the EVO family :D @GST thanks for sharing pics you look good, strong base.

Bloods
We need start working on E2 first
can you add aromasin eod 6.25mgs to fix the e2 issue?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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@GST looking really good on this. The gym routine looks fantastic. I like also how you're throwing in some jogging. That's important.
 
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jenkemj said:
Hey bro,

Good start to the log and great work
In posting your bloods. I feel we’d need to look more into your diet. Calories and when you are eating what. If you have a carb dense lunch you’ll likely feel like you have limited energy not too long after eating it. As you’d know not all carbs, fats and protein are created equal. So the macros don’t look bad but without where you are getting them from it’s hard to tell.

Your total and free testosterone seems off, way too high for the amount you are taking. Are you using other compounds? If not you could be a super responder.


Your e2 is a little high aswell, not a bad ratio to the testosterone though maybe consider aromasin at 6.25mg eod and see how it lands on your next bloods. People respond differently to different levels of e2 could be partly responsible for the fatigue or wear retention if you’re experiencing any.

Also, ezetimibe 10mg a day. Your ldl is consistently high. Part of the reason why I think your diet may be off aswell and could be causing this fatigue.

You could maybe look into some mitochondrial optimising peptides aswel if these fixes don’t work.
Mots-C, Ss-31, NAD+. NAD+ gives me a more sustained energy throughout the day.

Look forward to seeing your future posts bro 💪
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Gotta agree with these thoughts
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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The gym routine looks really solid. I like how you lay things out Monday through Saturday. That's some good dedication, especially how you isolate the hamstrings on Thursdays. @GST
 
GST said:
The fatigue starts before lunch for me and I usually have a fruit and Protein bar 2 hrs before lunch.

Only on hcg and test. I did an injection a day prior to the blood test so hence I believe the number is incorrect. My shbg is high I feel because trt is supposed to suppress to a degree but it’s on the high normal side.

The fatigue happened after my first week of starting TRT like literally 1 week after my first injection.

I’ll take those peptides into consideration and look into them
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It's pretty normal to have some sort of fatigue here and there. @GST let's be honest, especially as we get older. At the end of the day there are things that can be done to improve it, like working on your sleep.
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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@GST this is a good one right here. I like the supplements that you're putting together. It looks fantastic to me. You're not gonna go wrong.
 
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GST said:
Im late on this. Currently I am thinking of doing trt on my own and buying from a good source. I don’t feel my doctor is doing a good job, and I am paying him out of pocket for meh work.

Update on the sleep, it’s now become to the point I am getting up at 6:15am everyday regardless of when I sleep and can’t really fall asleep after getting up.
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Bros, if you are waking up early like that, try to go to bed earlier. That will be the best thing you can do. you can also get some DSIP peptide that will help you sleep harder @GST
 
LevButlerov said:
welcome fully to the EVO family :D @GST thanks for sharing pics you look good, strong base.

Bloods
We need start working on E2 first
can you add aromasin eod 6.25mgs to fix the e2 issue?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

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I am going to get my blood test done this week and getting it from teletest for steroid usage because it has more markers to assess. It’s been 5 weeks since i reduced my hcg by 750iu and introduced cardio and if e2 is still high I would add aromasin but I have not felt any e2 effects but at the same time I may not know I am either .

Diet
morning
200g Greek yogurt 0% fat
1 scoop of whey
80g blueberries

11am
150 gala apple
Protein bar

1:30pm
175g of extra firm tofu
90g uncooked weight Basmati rice or 240gsweet potato

4pm
150g of strawberries
Cinnamon apple rice cakes

5:30- workout

7pm
175g of extra firm tofu
150gram of veggies( broccoli or bell peppers)

9pm
2 packets of oatmeal and peanut butter( all natural) sandwich, greek yogurt 175g with fruits and half a scoop of whey

2300 calories- 173g protein, 55g of fat, 292 carbs
Plus a chocolate bar
Recently changed my workout routine because I have alittle more time

Training
Monday
Front squats 4x 8-10
Walking lunges 4x 10-12
Seated hamstring curl 5x 10-12
Adductor machine 3x 8-10
Abductor machine 3x 8-10
Calves 5 sets of 8

Tuesday
Flat dumbbell press- 4x 8-10
Cable flys 5x 10-12
Rope pushdown 4x 8-10
Over head tricep extension 3x 10-12
Cable lateral raises 3x 8-10
5 sets of a forearm exercise 8-12 reps

Wednesday
Parallel grip pull down 4x 8-10
Chest supported dumbbell row 5x 10-12
Dumbbell bicep curl 4x 8-10
Cable bicep curl with bar 3x 10-12
Rear delt Cable flys 3x 8-10

25-30 mins of jogging

Thursday
Romanian deadlift 4x 8-10
Laying Down leg curl 4x8-10
Leg press 5x 8-10
Adductor machine 3x 8-10
Abductor machine 3x 8-10
Calves 5 sets of 8

Friday
pull ups 5x 6-10
Incline chest press 5x 8-10
Machine lateral raises 3x 10-12
Rope pulls to face 3x 8-10
cable Stand away bicep curl 4x 8-10
Single arm tricep extension 4x 8-10
Preacher curl 3x 10-12
Over head tricep extension 3x 8-10

Saturday
30 mins of jogging

Everyday day I get 10k steps as well
Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg
Forgot to note earlier 1000-1500 mg of vitamin c

Also I am on dutasteride for the last 8 months without side affects

Recently I’ve noticed I haven’t gotten up in strength or reps in the last 2 months
 
HarleyGuy said:
Wellness clinics are even worse and it sounds like you've got yourself a real doozy of a wellness doc there (and by that I mean a quack doc!). You 100% need shbg and about a dozen other markers.

If you start up a TRT log here we have bloodwork threads I will point you to on what bloodwork to get and we can then dial you in on the proper TRT dose using scientific methods and incorporating your diet, training and supplementation as well. You will get way more out of using EVO that any wellness clinic and the only thing we charge is that you smile :p
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I would appreciate the help and knowledge of anyone who’s willingly to help
 
Mobster said:
Gotta agree with these thoughts
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I did forget to mention I’m on dutasteride but even with that my test would be 1800 on the lowest.

The moment I started trt I didn’t take into consideration the negative outcomes with hdl and ldl and hematocrit because the doctor didn’t saying anything. I since started cardio and taking supplements to help and it’s improved so much.

I used to get swelling on my hands and now it stopped since the last 7 weeks
 
jenkemj said:
Hey bro,

Good start to the log and great work
In posting your bloods. I feel we’d need to look more into your diet. Calories and when you are eating what. If you have a carb dense lunch you’ll likely feel like you have limited energy not too long after eating it. As you’d know not all carbs, fats and protein are created equal. So the macros don’t look bad but without where you are getting them from it’s hard to tell.

Your total and free testosterone seems off, way too high for the amount you are taking. Are you using other compounds? If not you could be a super responder.


Your e2 is a little high aswell, not a bad ratio to the testosterone though maybe consider aromasin at 6.25mg eod and see how it lands on your next bloods. People respond differently to different levels of e2 could be partly responsible for the fatigue or wear retention if you’re experiencing any.

Also, ezetimibe 10mg a day. Your ldl is consistently high. Part of the reason why I think your diet may be off aswell and could be causing this fatigue.

You could maybe look into some mitochondrial optimising peptides aswel if these fixes don’t work.
Mots-C, Ss-31, NAD+. NAD+ gives me a more sustained energy throughout the day.

Look forward to seeing your future posts bro 💪
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I did mention to forget I’m on dutasteride and I wasn’t taking anything or doing anything to help myself when I got the blood work done.

I will be getting blood work done and hopefully I improved
 
ceo said:
Bros, if you are waking up early like that, try to go to bed earlier. That will be the best thing you can do. you can also get some DSIP peptide that will help you sleep harder @GST
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I’ll definitely look into the peptides and I normally don’t wake up early but I do goto bed 10pm but now my body is just behaving weird and I don’t know why
 
GST said:
I’ll definitely look into the peptides and I normally don’t wake up early but I do goto bed 10pm but now my body is just behaving weird and I don’t know why
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Bros, I would definitely try them. A lot of people like them.
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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@GST nice start to the log man. Glad to have you here logging.
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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@GST good start to log.....
 
GST said:
Just need a source for them. There’s too many fake ones. I bought HMG alittle while ago and I got the product but I didn’t check properly on the source and got scammed.
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Bros, I hate scammers. They should be ashamed of themselves.
 
GST said:
Hello

New to the forum and not really sure which section to post this, so apologies ahead of time if I got this wrong.

I am currently on trt at a dosage of 200mg a week, which is divided into every day injections. Reason for the frequent dosage is because i am experiencing mental fatigue ever since i started trt. My initial dosage was 100mg a week and after the first week i started to experience being mentally tired around 11am-12pm. Can’t figure out why and neither can my doctor. I switched to everyday injections and that did alleviate some of the severity of it but still occurs.

For back story I started trt because I was trying to figure out why I wasn’t building muscle as I had everything in check from calories, sleep, protein and training but nothing changed over the course of 5-6 years, my body got to a certain level and stayed there. I decided to check my levels and turns out I was ranging from 190pmol/l to 284pmol/. I always had issues with recovery from workouts or from doing manual labour, i always felt beat up and tired if I did either or both.

Anyone experience something similar to this or have an idea why this could be occurring?

Stats
5'11.5
180lbs currently
33 years old

Weekly dosage 200mg of Test with every day injections
HCG 750iu split into 3 doses a week

Supplements
Magnesium Bis-Glycinate 600mg
Citrus Bergamont 500mg
Omega 3 4800mg
NAC 600mg
D3 2500 iu
Iron 300mg

What i eat in a day changes but Macros are usually 300 carbs, 150protein and 60g of fat

usually sleep 6.5 hrs to 7.5 hrs, I can't sleep anymore then this just physically

Gym Routine
Monday-legs Quad focus
Tuesday- Chest and back with some shoulder and arms
Wednesday- 30mins of Jogging
Thursday- Hamstring Focus
Friday- Back and Chest with some shoulder and arms
Saturday- 25-30 mins of Jogging

Weekly sets for each muscle group is 12-14 sets, Currently a restraint with timing because of new fatherhood status

I am attaching 3 files of blood work, each one is labeled. One of the blood works is titled added Cardio which blood improved

Only one Blood work has SHBG because that was something I had gotten a custom blood work i had paid for and the other two are what the doctor had ordered

There is some differences now to blood work of a few things
1. citrus Bergamont was added with NAC
2. Started cardio
3. HCG was at 1200 IU a week and recently switched to 750iu for the last 2 weeks

I would post physique pictures but not much has improved in terms of muscle from prior starting

I started 100mg August 2025 then doctor had me at 200mg start of December 2025
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@GST Great gym routine right here!
 
I have been doing some research and alittle testing of some vitamins.

I had a case of secondary hypogonadism and my body adjusted to those low levels and up
Regulated those receptors to compensate for the low androgen environment and when testosterone was introduced I had a stable supply in my body but my receptors were adjusted to low levels and not these levels. Hence my body is adjusting still to the new levels. The testosterone is also stimulating my nervous system and brain and the fatigue accrued because of the constant stimulation.

I recently introduced 1000mg of L theanine and sleep improved and slight improvement in tiredness coming down. Going to try glycine with it tomorrow and will see if it’s improves more .
 
GST said:
I have been doing some research and alittle testing of some vitamins.

I had a case of secondary hypogonadism and my body adjusted to those low levels and up
Regulated those receptors to compensate for the low androgen environment and when testosterone was introduced I had a stable supply in my body but my receptors were adjusted to low levels and not these levels. Hence my body is adjusting still to the new levels. The testosterone is also stimulating my nervous system and brain and the fatigue accrued because of the constant stimulation.

I recently introduced 1000mg of L theanine and sleep improved and slight improvement in tiredness coming down. Going to try glycine with it tomorrow and will see if it’s improves more .
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alright good you added vitamins :D you add anything else?
 
So quick update since I haven’t logged much from when I created the post. The two supplements did help with going to sleep and going back but overall I haven’t been feeling the best cause I wasn’t really giving it any thought. I do apologize for not conveying correct information, I’ve been just so tired. Overall life’s been kinda feeling like shit, i sometimes don’t wanna get up or do anything. Workouts have been shit and lately feeling irritated easily and anxious.

I reduced hcg from 1250iu to 750iu a week and i did succeed in dropping my e2 from 329pmol to 190pmol but with this my total testosterone has gone down from 123 nmol to 74 nmol. Shbg went from 45nmol to 54 nmol. LDL is 3.10mmol and back in Feb it was 3.59mmol and HDL was 1.18mmol and now it’s 1.25mmol. March ldl was the same for ldl but hdl was at 1.23mmol.

Current blood count results

Hematocrit is .52 L/L
Hemoglobin is 174 g/l
Red blood cell 6.2 x10*12 /L

I haven’t posted blood work because it’s still in progress and waiting for results.
 
GST said:
So quick update since I haven’t logged much from when I created the post. The two supplements did help with going to sleep and going back but overall I haven’t been feeling the best cause I wasn’t really giving it any thought. I do apologize for not conveying correct information, I’ve been just so tired. Overall life’s been kinda feeling like shit, i sometimes don’t wanna get up or do anything. Workouts have been shit and lately feeling irritated easily and anxious.

I reduced hcg from 1250iu to 750iu a week and i did succeed in dropping my e2 from 329pmol to 190pmol but with this my total testosterone has gone down from 123 nmol to 74 nmol. Shbg went from 45nmol to 54 nmol. LDL is 3.10mmol and back in Feb it was 3.59mmol and HDL was 1.18mmol and now it’s 1.25mmol. March ldl was the same for ldl but hdl was at 1.23mmol.

Current blood count results

Hematocrit is .52 L/L
Hemoglobin is 174 g/l
Red blood cell 6.2 x10*12 /L

I haven’t posted blood work because it’s still in progress and waiting for results.
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can you post the updated bloods please? whatever you have so far @GST
 
GST said:
It did drop from 329 to 190 but I’ve been feeling off. Shbg also went up as well and total test went down.

Without hcg, I believe total test is around 50 and shbg is at 54
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you'll need to cut the e2 even more :D
 
GST said:
How would I do that? And by chance your thoughts also on the other markers ?
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other markers not too bad but e2 cut add aromasin, possible for you?
 
GST said:
I can buy some shortly within this week or early next.

Is it odd that my total test has dropped and shbg has risen to 54 even though I’m trt and should be slightly suppressed
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what country are you in? :D @GST

it is odd but hard to say what gear you using? what brand?
 
GST said:
I’m in Canada, Ontario

I’m on trt prescribed by a doctor brand is Taro testosterone from Costco
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Yes i checked back now its TARO @GST
shbg can go up we should get you on proviron
 
I am in process to place an order for proviron and anavar from Nordic plus primo that’s for later in the year.

So this past week my strength and endurance has dropped significantly but overall since February my strength has dropped by 180 pounds on the leg press, 15 lbs on dumbbell curl, 10 pounds on the dumbbell chest press, 5-20 pounds on tricep exercises and other ones my strength is stagnant.

This has happened before when I was on hcg monothreapy at the 8th month mark
 
GST said:
Did you have to keep using both or did it stay down afterwards and stopped using them ?
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Boron you have to cycle apparently, 2 weeks on, 1 week off, and if you do that you can use it forever I believe.

And anavar I didnt take for the purpose of lowering shbg, thats just a side effect of it, and obviously you cant take it long term.

My basic understanding of shbg is that you have to take larger amounts of testosterone (as opposed to daily mocrodosing or whatever) once a week dosing maybe
 
GST said:
I am in process to place an order for proviron and anavar from Nordic plus primo that’s for later in the year.

So this past week my strength and endurance has dropped significantly but overall since February my strength has dropped by 180 pounds on the leg press, 15 lbs on dumbbell curl, 10 pounds on the dumbbell chest press, 5-20 pounds on tricep exercises and other ones my strength is stagnant.

This has happened before when I was on hcg monothreapy at the 8th month mark
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thats a lot of strength drops , what dose of test you on? @GST
 
BritishCanadian said:
Boron you have to cycle apparently, 2 weeks on, 1 week off, and if you do that you can use it forever I believe.

And anavar I didnt take for the purpose of lowering shbg, thats just a side effect of it, and obviously you cant take it long term.

My basic understanding of shbg is that you have to take larger amounts of testosterone (as opposed to daily mocrodosing or whatever) once a week dosing maybe
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Problem is my body kept making more shbg to counter the higher testosterone
 
BritishCanadian said:
Are you still doing everyday injections?

If so, have you tried once every 5 days, or once a week?
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I am still currently on everyday injections.

I initially started with 2x a week but I felt weak when it was time for the next shot and then I switched to 3x times a week. On 3x a week I felt okay but started to feel the same symptoms as before and then I upped the dosage and switched to everyday because of better stable levels.

I plan on upping my dosage to 250mg a week and seeing how I feel on that and see if my strength returns
 
GST said:
I am still currently on everyday injections.

I initially started with 2x a week but I felt weak when it was time for the next shot and then I switched to 3x times a week. On 3x a week I felt okay but started to feel the same symptoms as before and then I upped the dosage and switched to everyday because of better stable levels.

I plan on upping my dosage to 250mg a week and seeing how I feel on that and see if my strength returns
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With high shbg you need less frequent injections.

A good way to experiment is take 150mg, and then ride that out until you feel the crash, and then take another 150, it might be 5 days, 7 days etc
 
GST said:
Problem is my body kept making more shbg to counter the higher testosterone
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proviron is what you need :D 25mgs ed
 
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I do plan on doing 250mg starting tomorrow but would you suggest more ?
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250mgs lets start there and feel it :D
 
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GST said:
I do plan on doing 250mg starting tomorrow but would you suggest more ?
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less is more man. Best to start at 250-400. I agree with lev tho on seeing how the 250 feels at first.
 
GST said:
Would you suggest anavar first then proviron after ?

I tried to do a double reply in one message but that didn’t work
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you can use them together :D
 
GST said:
would that drop shbg too much or it’ll just bring it down to middle of the reference range ?
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it would be guessing on my part, we can start and go from there :D
 
Took a while for the blood work results to come in but still missing one portion of it. Which may take another 1-2 weeks.

During this time I did start anavar of 20mg daily for the last week. Split the tablet into 10mg. One in morning and one in evening and I started to feel better and got some good rest finally but still needs to improve.

Also started Tudca at 500mg daily
Upped the dose of citrus bergamont to 1200mg daily
 

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GST said:
Took a while for the blood work results to come in but still missing one portion of it. Which may take another 1-2 weeks.

During this time I did start anavar of 20mg daily for the last week. Split the tablet into 10mg. One in morning and one in evening and I started to feel better and got some good rest finally but still needs to improve.

Also started Tudca at 500mg daily
Upped the dose of citrus bergamont to 1200mg daily
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e2 is high, are you taking any ai right now? @GST
 
GST said:
I am not, a buddy of mine has some which he said he could give me so waiting on that
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you should get some aromasin post pics of it when you have it
 
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