Community Research Cagrilintide: My experiment and my experience.

[kcates]

Cagrilintide: The experiment is for myself to try a new peptide and also see if it can be used while i reduce my dosage on Terzepatide. I started Terzepatide September of 2023. I was put on it for diabetes. It did wonders for curing my diabetes at the starting does and when i went to 5 mg. After that i started chasing having the medicine get rid of the food noise at first and I ended up at 7mg. Then at that point i learned i needed to eat protein to grow muscle and get stronger. During this time iset a powerlifting goal I wanted to reach before I turned 50 years old. If you want to learn more about that you can read my first log, https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...irzepatide-to-testosterone-anavar-log.103301/. During this time I wanted to eat and I taught myself to eat right through the medication so I could reached my powerlifting goal Aug. 9th 2025. I wanted to take a break from the bulk and try and cut. The plan was to cut and raise my medication up to start getting rid of the food noise again. I then went to 10mg, 12.5mg and 15mg and it did nothing for me. So at that point I didn't know what to do. I had been hearing from others that there is this other peptide called Cagrilintide that stops food noise through a different pathway. Then I decided I wanted to try it and while trying it I would reduce my terzepatide back down to a goal dose of 2.5mg which is the lowest dose that I can go on with my prescription of Mounjaro. This is where this experiment for myself and maybe it will help other people who end up on the max dose of GLP-1 drug and it is not working for them any longer and they want to reduce back down or get off but don't want all the food noise to come rushing back and they just get fatter then when they started the drug. I am just going to talk about my experience going through this. My concern with just cutting my glp-1 back down with out adding in a helper was that maybe the terzepatide is curbing a lot of food noise that I don't even realize and if I go down with out it the food noise all comes roaring back.

My Information:
Age: 50 years young
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: as of 5/1/26: 235 lbs
body fat%: from last inbody scan as of 4/23/26 20.6
Training experience: 2 years 6+ months

Training: I run a push, pull, legs work out 6 days a week. If you want to follow along with my training you can check out my other current log that I am updating with all my training stuff. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...d-to-200lbs-or-less-my-first-cut-ever.106162/

Diet: It is pretty much the same thing day in and day out. Meal after training 6 eggs, 12 ounces of ground beef 90/10 and 9 ounces of white rice. Dinner is a pound of meat and some veggies if i can get them in. You will see in this log diet has changed to less food.

Supplements:
Preworkout:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements after eating my meal after training:

Thorn Basic nutrients 2/daily
CoQ10 200mg daily
3600mg fish oil daily
Pre and probiotic 20 billion cells and 12 strains
vitamin D with k2 Mk-7 10,000 Iu/ 200mcg
Lutein and Zeaxanthin
Telemisartan-hctz 80-12.5 mg

Supplements on the way to work:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements before bed:
Magnesium Glycinate 360 mg

PEDS and Peptides:
Testosterone Cypionate 140 mg divided into 3 shots per week
Nandrolone Decanoate 50mg divided into 3 shots per week
Mounjaro (terzepatide) 12.5 mg per week
Cagrilintide 1mg per week
GH 4iu 30 minutes before bed

Cycle Plans: I have no plans of a cycle at this time. I am currently working to find a good TRT level where my blood work is within good levels. I have high hematocrit and red blood cells as of my last blood work. You can read my current training log to find out more about that there.

Goals of this experiment: To reduce my terzepatide back down to the lowest does. While using the least amount of cagrilintide. Then once i reach the the minimum dose I plan to add 1 mg of retatrutide to the mix. If I lose weight while i go through this process that is an added benefit but not the primary goal here.

 

[kcates]

I am going to post some stuff i already posted other places here so I have it all in one place.

I stated 1mg of cagrilitide with 12.5mg terzepatide yesterday. The plan is to use the cag while decreasing my terzepatide to a goal of 2.5mg a week. At that point I have to continue to use the terzepatide for my prescription but I am going to add 1mg a week of Retatrutide. At that point I will decide if I will continue a maintenance dose of cag or just discontinue. Hopefully by that point I have figured out a good recovery dose of test. Then I will run a bulk and a cycle. Let's GO Cag!

Day 2 of cagrilitide 1mg along with my normal Mounjaro 12.5mg. Yesterday I took the shot. Didn't feel anything different. Today I felt fine until I had to eat. Today is a different morning then usual. I got up at 4 am to go workout. Then had to get home to take my son to school because my wife is traveling to go get my oldest son from His MoS school in Virginia. I left the gym hungry. I knew I wouldn't have time to make my normal meal after working out right away because I had to take my son to school. Soni had a double scoop protein shake. Roughly around 65 grams of protein in it. Once back from taking my son . I made my normal meal to get the rest of my protein. Normally even with a shake I can put down my food. I started eating and after a few bites I was like ugh I don't want this. I kept eating to get in my carbs and protein that I can. So here is some pics of what I started with and what was left. I will save the left overs for later. I got a battery operated shaker cup. So I am going to take a shake with me to work. In case I get hungry and start hurting at work. We will see how it goes through the day. I haven't felt this way about food in over a year and half. I remember this feeling when I first started Mounjaro. I would say the cag is kicking in. I am sitting here now just feeling blah from eating. Just wanted to update some of my experience as I do this experiment. I probably should start a new log for myself to document this. What do y'all think keep it here or start a new log?

 

[stevesmi]

This will be really cool
Cag is one that will absolutely obliterate your food Noise issues.
I’ve not used it before, but I’m wondering if it would work extremely well if you wanted to do a lot of fasting

 

[LevButlerov]

I am going to post some stuff i already posted other places here so I have it all in one place.

I stated 1mg of cagrilitide with 12.5mg terzepatide yesterday. The plan is to use the cag while decreasing my terzepatide to a goal of 2.5mg a week. At that point I have to continue to use the terzepatide for my prescription but I am going to add 1mg a week of Retatrutide. At that point I will decide if I will continue a maintenance dose of cag or just discontinue. Hopefully by that point I have figured out a good recovery dose of test. Then I will run a bulk and a cycle. Let's GO Cag!

Day 2 of cagrilitide 1mg along with my normal Mounjaro 12.5mg. Yesterday I took the shot. Didn't feel anything different. Today I felt fine until I had to eat. Today is a different morning then usual. I got up at 4 am to go workout. Then had to get home to take my son to school because my wife is traveling to go get my oldest son from His MoS school in Virginia. I left the gym hungry. I knew I wouldn't have time to make my normal meal after working out right away because I had to take my son to school. Soni had a double scoop protein shake. Roughly around 65 grams of protein in it. Once back from taking my son . I made my normal meal to get the rest of my protein. Normally even with a shake I can put down my food. I started eating and after a few bites I was like ugh I don't want this. I kept eating to get in my carbs and protein that I can. So here is some pics of what I started with and what was left. I will save the left overs for later. I got a battery operated shaker cup. So I am going to take a shake with me to work. In case I get hungry and start hurting at work. We will see how it goes through the day. I haven't felt this way about food in over a year and half. I remember this feeling when I first started Mounjaro. I would say the cag is kicking in. I am sitting here now just feeling blah from eating. Just wanted to update some of my experience as I do this experiment. I probably should start a new log for myself to document this. What do y'all think keep it here or start a new log?

love this cagrilintide experiment its now a community research thread @kcates
what would help is some pics of your mounjaro and cag so it builds the thread
EVO family support!

Cagrilintide: The experiment is for myself to try a new peptide and also see if it can be used while i reduce my dosage on Terzepatide. I started Terzepatide September of 2023. I was put on it for diabetes. It did wonders for curing my diabetes at the starting does and when i went to 5 mg. After that i started chasing having the medicine get rid of the food noise at first and I ended up at 7mg. Then at that point i learned i needed to eat protein to grow muscle and get stronger. During this time iset a powerlifting goal I wanted to reach before I turned 50 years old. If you want to learn more about that you can read my first log, https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...irzepatide-to-testosterone-anavar-log.103301/. During this time I wanted to eat and I taught myself to eat right through the medication so I could reached my powerlifting goal Aug. 9th 2025. I wanted to take a break from the bulk and try and cut. The plan was to cut and raise my medication up to start getting rid of the food noise again. I then went to 10mg, 12.5mg and 15mg and it did nothing for me. So at that point I didn't know what to do. I had been hearing from others that there is this other peptide called Cagrilintide that stops food noise through a different pathway. Then I decided I wanted to try it and while trying it I would reduce my terzepatide back down to a goal dose of 2.5mg which is the lowest dose that I can go on with my prescription of Mounjaro. This is where this experiment for myself and maybe it will help other people who end up on the max dose of GLP-1 drug and it is not working for them any longer and they want to reduce back down or get off but don't want all the food noise to come rushing back and they just get fatter then when they started the drug. I am just going to talk about my experience going through this. My concern with just cutting my glp-1 back down with out adding in a helper was that maybe the terzepatide is curbing a lot of food noise that I don't even realize and if I go down with out it the food noise all comes roaring back.

My Information:
Age: 50 years young
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: as of 5/1/26: 235 lbs
body fat%: from last inbody scan as of 4/23/26 20.6
Training experience: 2 years 6+ months

Training: I run a push, pull, legs work out 6 days a week. If you want to follow along with my training you can check out my other current log that I am updating with all my training stuff. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...d-to-200lbs-or-less-my-first-cut-ever.106162/

Diet: It is pretty much the same thing day in and day out. Meal after training 6 eggs, 12 ounces of ground beef 90/10 and 9 ounces of white rice. Dinner is a pound of meat and some veggies if i can get them in. You will see in this log diet has changed to less food.

Supplements:
Preworkout:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements after eating my meal after training:

Thorn Basic nutrients 2/daily
CoQ10 200mg daily
3600mg fish oil daily
Pre and probiotic 20 billion cells and 12 strains
vitamin D with k2 Mk-7 10,000 Iu/ 200mcg
Lutein and Zeaxanthin
Telemisartan-hctz 80-12.5 mg

Supplements on the way to work:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements before bed:
Magnesium Glycinate 360 mg

PEDS and Peptides:
Testosterone Cypionate 140 mg divided into 3 shots per week
Nandrolone Decanoate 50mg divided into 3 shots per week
Mounjaro (terzepatide) 12.5 mg per week
Cagrilintide 1mg per week
GH 4iu 30 minutes before bed

Cycle Plans: I have no plans of a cycle at this time. I am currently working to find a good TRT level where my blood work is within good levels. I have high hematocrit and red blood cells as of my last blood work. You can read my current training log to find out more about that there.

Goals of this experiment: To reduce my terzepatide back down to the lowest does. While using the least amount of cagrilintide. Then once i reach the the minimum dose I plan to add 1 mg of retatrutide to the mix. If I lose weight while i go through this process that is an added benefit but not the primary goal here.

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss

 

[bss]

Cagrilintide: The experiment is for myself to try a new peptide and also see if it can be used while i reduce my dosage on Terzepatide. I started Terzepatide September of 2023. I was put on it for diabetes. It did wonders for curing my diabetes at the starting does and when i went to 5 mg. After that i started chasing having the medicine get rid of the food noise at first and I ended up at 7mg. Then at that point i learned i needed to eat protein to grow muscle and get stronger. During this time iset a powerlifting goal I wanted to reach before I turned 50 years old. If you want to learn more about that you can read my first log, https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...irzepatide-to-testosterone-anavar-log.103301/. During this time I wanted to eat and I taught myself to eat right through the medication so I could reached my powerlifting goal Aug. 9th 2025. I wanted to take a break from the bulk and try and cut. The plan was to cut and raise my medication up to start getting rid of the food noise again. I then went to 10mg, 12.5mg and 15mg and it did nothing for me. So at that point I didn't know what to do. I had been hearing from others that there is this other peptide called Cagrilintide that stops food noise through a different pathway. Then I decided I wanted to try it and while trying it I would reduce my terzepatide back down to a goal dose of 2.5mg which is the lowest dose that I can go on with my prescription of Mounjaro. This is where this experiment for myself and maybe it will help other people who end up on the max dose of GLP-1 drug and it is not working for them any longer and they want to reduce back down or get off but don't want all the food noise to come rushing back and they just get fatter then when they started the drug. I am just going to talk about my experience going through this. My concern with just cutting my glp-1 back down with out adding in a helper was that maybe the terzepatide is curbing a lot of food noise that I don't even realize and if I go down with out it the food noise all comes roaring back.

My Information:
Age: 50 years young
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: as of 5/1/26: 235 lbs
body fat%: from last inbody scan as of 4/23/26 20.6
Training experience: 2 years 6+ months

Training: I run a push, pull, legs work out 6 days a week. If you want to follow along with my training you can check out my other current log that I am updating with all my training stuff. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...d-to-200lbs-or-less-my-first-cut-ever.106162/

Diet: It is pretty much the same thing day in and day out. Meal after training 6 eggs, 12 ounces of ground beef 90/10 and 9 ounces of white rice. Dinner is a pound of meat and some veggies if i can get them in. You will see in this log diet has changed to less food.

Supplements:
Preworkout:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements after eating my meal after training:

Thorn Basic nutrients 2/daily
CoQ10 200mg daily
3600mg fish oil daily
Pre and probiotic 20 billion cells and 12 strains
vitamin D with k2 Mk-7 10,000 Iu/ 200mcg
Lutein and Zeaxanthin
Telemisartan-hctz 80-12.5 mg

Supplements on the way to work:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements before bed:
Magnesium Glycinate 360 mg

PEDS and Peptides:
Testosterone Cypionate 140 mg divided into 3 shots per week
Nandrolone Decanoate 50mg divided into 3 shots per week
Mounjaro (terzepatide) 12.5 mg per week
Cagrilintide 1mg per week
GH 4iu 30 minutes before bed

Cycle Plans: I have no plans of a cycle at this time. I am currently working to find a good TRT level where my blood work is within good levels. I have high hematocrit and red blood cells as of my last blood work. You can read my current training log to find out more about that there.

Goals of this experiment: To reduce my terzepatide back down to the lowest does. While using the least amount of cagrilintide. Then once i reach the the minimum dose I plan to add 1 mg of retatrutide to the mix. If I lose weight while i go through this process that is an added benefit but not the primary goal here.

Really interesting, will be following this!

 

[Grumpy]

Really interested in seeing the results of this

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Cagrilintide: The experiment is for myself to try a new peptide and also see if it can be used while i reduce my dosage on Terzepatide. I started Terzepatide September of 2023. I was put on it for diabetes. It did wonders for curing my diabetes at the starting does and when i went to 5 mg. After that i started chasing having the medicine get rid of the food noise at first and I ended up at 7mg. Then at that point i learned i needed to eat protein to grow muscle and get stronger. During this time iset a powerlifting goal I wanted to reach before I turned 50 years old. If you want to learn more about that you can read my first log, https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...irzepatide-to-testosterone-anavar-log.103301/. During this time I wanted to eat and I taught myself to eat right through the medication so I could reached my powerlifting goal Aug. 9th 2025. I wanted to take a break from the bulk and try and cut. The plan was to cut and raise my medication up to start getting rid of the food noise again. I then went to 10mg, 12.5mg and 15mg and it did nothing for me. So at that point I didn't know what to do. I had been hearing from others that there is this other peptide called Cagrilintide that stops food noise through a different pathway. Then I decided I wanted to try it and while trying it I would reduce my terzepatide back down to a goal dose of 2.5mg which is the lowest dose that I can go on with my prescription of Mounjaro. This is where this experiment for myself and maybe it will help other people who end up on the max dose of GLP-1 drug and it is not working for them any longer and they want to reduce back down or get off but don't want all the food noise to come rushing back and they just get fatter then when they started the drug. I am just going to talk about my experience going through this. My concern with just cutting my glp-1 back down with out adding in a helper was that maybe the terzepatide is curbing a lot of food noise that I don't even realize and if I go down with out it the food noise all comes roaring back.

My Information:
Age: 50 years young
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: as of 5/1/26: 235 lbs
body fat%: from last inbody scan as of 4/23/26 20.6
Training experience: 2 years 6+ months

Training: I run a push, pull, legs work out 6 days a week. If you want to follow along with my training you can check out my other current log that I am updating with all my training stuff. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...d-to-200lbs-or-less-my-first-cut-ever.106162/

Diet: It is pretty much the same thing day in and day out. Meal after training 6 eggs, 12 ounces of ground beef 90/10 and 9 ounces of white rice. Dinner is a pound of meat and some veggies if i can get them in. You will see in this log diet has changed to less food.

Supplements:
Preworkout:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements after eating my meal after training:

Thorn Basic nutrients 2/daily
CoQ10 200mg daily
3600mg fish oil daily
Pre and probiotic 20 billion cells and 12 strains
vitamin D with k2 Mk-7 10,000 Iu/ 200mcg
Lutein and Zeaxanthin
Telemisartan-hctz 80-12.5 mg

Supplements on the way to work:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements before bed:
Magnesium Glycinate 360 mg

PEDS and Peptides:
Testosterone Cypionate 140 mg divided into 3 shots per week
Nandrolone Decanoate 50mg divided into 3 shots per week
Mounjaro (terzepatide) 12.5 mg per week
Cagrilintide 1mg per week
GH 4iu 30 minutes before bed

Cycle Plans: I have no plans of a cycle at this time. I am currently working to find a good TRT level where my blood work is within good levels. I have high hematocrit and red blood cells as of my last blood work. You can read my current training log to find out more about that there.

Goals of this experiment: To reduce my terzepatide back down to the lowest does. While using the least amount of cagrilintide. Then once i reach the the minimum dose I plan to add 1 mg of retatrutide to the mix. If I lose weight while i go through this process that is an added benefit but not the primary goal here.

@MarkNV Great I am curious to see the outcome.
IMHO Cagrilintide is the next retatrutide, but way more versatile.

 

[MarkNV]

@MarkNV Great I am curious to see the outcome.
IMHO Cagrilintide is the next retatrutide, but way more versatile.

@kcates
I
Curious as well!!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Great experiment going here bro I'll be following.

 

[HarleyGuy]

This will be really cool
Cag is one that will absolutely obliterate your food Noise issues.
I’ve not used it before, but I’m wondering if it would work extremely well if you wanted to do a lot of fasting

That's a good word to use @stevesmi I bumped Cag to 2mg with both my Dad and with HarleyGirl and they said they had stopped eating and had to make themselves eat . I went back down to 1mg with both of them.

 

[Mobster]

I'm thinking food noise here is mostly mental and not physical. After all, you trained yourself to eat into a bulk for powerlifting while using a GLP for diabetes. You then mention, towards the end, your fear of it being an issue.

Ergo BOTH approaches are mental. Consider, for want of a better phrase, training yourself again

 

[Ulter]

I'm thinking food noise here is mostly mental and not physical. After all, you trained yourself to eat into a bulk for powerlifting while using a GLP for diabetes. You then mention, towards the end, your fear of it being an issue.

Ergo BOTH approaches are mental. Consider, for want of a better phrase, training yourself again

I can tell you that before my wife passed away, I used to be a big eater. Since she passed away, I definitely don't eat as much as I used to. Without steroids I probably would have shrunk up haha.

 

[2Thick]

I think a popular thing would be to stack it with any of the GLPs. It will help with appetite especially the longer you stay on.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Cagrilintide: The experiment is for myself to try a new peptide and also see if it can be used while i reduce my dosage on Terzepatide. I started Terzepatide September of 2023. I was put on it for diabetes. It did wonders for curing my diabetes at the starting does and when i went to 5 mg. After that i started chasing having the medicine get rid of the food noise at first and I ended up at 7mg. Then at that point i learned i needed to eat protein to grow muscle and get stronger. During this time iset a powerlifting goal I wanted to reach before I turned 50 years old. If you want to learn more about that you can read my first log, https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...irzepatide-to-testosterone-anavar-log.103301/. During this time I wanted to eat and I taught myself to eat right through the medication so I could reached my powerlifting goal Aug. 9th 2025. I wanted to take a break from the bulk and try and cut. The plan was to cut and raise my medication up to start getting rid of the food noise again. I then went to 10mg, 12.5mg and 15mg and it did nothing for me. So at that point I didn't know what to do. I had been hearing from others that there is this other peptide called Cagrilintide that stops food noise through a different pathway. Then I decided I wanted to try it and while trying it I would reduce my terzepatide back down to a goal dose of 2.5mg which is the lowest dose that I can go on with my prescription of Mounjaro. This is where this experiment for myself and maybe it will help other people who end up on the max dose of GLP-1 drug and it is not working for them any longer and they want to reduce back down or get off but don't want all the food noise to come rushing back and they just get fatter then when they started the drug. I am just going to talk about my experience going through this. My concern with just cutting my glp-1 back down with out adding in a helper was that maybe the terzepatide is curbing a lot of food noise that I don't even realize and if I go down with out it the food noise all comes roaring back.

My Information:
Age: 50 years young
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: as of 5/1/26: 235 lbs
body fat%: from last inbody scan as of 4/23/26 20.6
Training experience: 2 years 6+ months

Training: I run a push, pull, legs work out 6 days a week. If you want to follow along with my training you can check out my other current log that I am updating with all my training stuff. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...d-to-200lbs-or-less-my-first-cut-ever.106162/

Diet: It is pretty much the same thing day in and day out. Meal after training 6 eggs, 12 ounces of ground beef 90/10 and 9 ounces of white rice. Dinner is a pound of meat and some veggies if i can get them in. You will see in this log diet has changed to less food.

Supplements:
Preworkout:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements after eating my meal after training:

Thorn Basic nutrients 2/daily
CoQ10 200mg daily
3600mg fish oil daily
Pre and probiotic 20 billion cells and 12 strains
vitamin D with k2 Mk-7 10,000 Iu/ 200mcg
Lutein and Zeaxanthin
Telemisartan-hctz 80-12.5 mg

Supplements on the way to work:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements before bed:
Magnesium Glycinate 360 mg

PEDS and Peptides:
Testosterone Cypionate 140 mg divided into 3 shots per week
Nandrolone Decanoate 50mg divided into 3 shots per week
Mounjaro (terzepatide) 12.5 mg per week
Cagrilintide 1mg per week
GH 4iu 30 minutes before bed

Cycle Plans: I have no plans of a cycle at this time. I am currently working to find a good TRT level where my blood work is within good levels. I have high hematocrit and red blood cells as of my last blood work. You can read my current training log to find out more about that there.

Goals of this experiment: To reduce my terzepatide back down to the lowest does. While using the least amount of cagrilintide. Then once i reach the the minimum dose I plan to add 1 mg of retatrutide to the mix. If I lose weight while i go through this process that is an added benefit but not the primary goal here.

This will be a nice experiment. I'm glad you're sharing it with us. I think a lot of people can learn from you.

 

[ceo]

Cagrilintide: The experiment is for myself to try a new peptide and also see if it can be used while i reduce my dosage on Terzepatide. I started Terzepatide September of 2023. I was put on it for diabetes. It did wonders for curing my diabetes at the starting does and when i went to 5 mg. After that i started chasing having the medicine get rid of the food noise at first and I ended up at 7mg. Then at that point i learned i needed to eat protein to grow muscle and get stronger. During this time iset a powerlifting goal I wanted to reach before I turned 50 years old. If you want to learn more about that you can read my first log, https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...irzepatide-to-testosterone-anavar-log.103301/. During this time I wanted to eat and I taught myself to eat right through the medication so I could reached my powerlifting goal Aug. 9th 2025. I wanted to take a break from the bulk and try and cut. The plan was to cut and raise my medication up to start getting rid of the food noise again. I then went to 10mg, 12.5mg and 15mg and it did nothing for me. So at that point I didn't know what to do. I had been hearing from others that there is this other peptide called Cagrilintide that stops food noise through a different pathway. Then I decided I wanted to try it and while trying it I would reduce my terzepatide back down to a goal dose of 2.5mg which is the lowest dose that I can go on with my prescription of Mounjaro. This is where this experiment for myself and maybe it will help other people who end up on the max dose of GLP-1 drug and it is not working for them any longer and they want to reduce back down or get off but don't want all the food noise to come rushing back and they just get fatter then when they started the drug. I am just going to talk about my experience going through this. My concern with just cutting my glp-1 back down with out adding in a helper was that maybe the terzepatide is curbing a lot of food noise that I don't even realize and if I go down with out it the food noise all comes roaring back.

My Information:
Age: 50 years young
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: as of 5/1/26: 235 lbs
body fat%: from last inbody scan as of 4/23/26 20.6
Training experience: 2 years 6+ months

Training: I run a push, pull, legs work out 6 days a week. If you want to follow along with my training you can check out my other current log that I am updating with all my training stuff. https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...d-to-200lbs-or-less-my-first-cut-ever.106162/

Diet: It is pretty much the same thing day in and day out. Meal after training 6 eggs, 12 ounces of ground beef 90/10 and 9 ounces of white rice. Dinner is a pound of meat and some veggies if i can get them in. You will see in this log diet has changed to less food.

Supplements:
Preworkout:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements after eating my meal after training:

Thorn Basic nutrients 2/daily
CoQ10 200mg daily
3600mg fish oil daily
Pre and probiotic 20 billion cells and 12 strains
vitamin D with k2 Mk-7 10,000 Iu/ 200mcg
Lutein and Zeaxanthin
Telemisartan-hctz 80-12.5 mg

Supplements on the way to work:
10 grams of creatine mono
2.5 grams of HMB
liquid IV packet
15 grams of psyllium husk

Supplements before bed:
Magnesium Glycinate 360 mg

PEDS and Peptides:
Testosterone Cypionate 140 mg divided into 3 shots per week
Nandrolone Decanoate 50mg divided into 3 shots per week
Mounjaro (terzepatide) 12.5 mg per week
Cagrilintide 1mg per week
GH 4iu 30 minutes before bed

Cycle Plans: I have no plans of a cycle at this time. I am currently working to find a good TRT level where my blood work is within good levels. I have high hematocrit and red blood cells as of my last blood work. You can read my current training log to find out more about that there.

Goals of this experiment: To reduce my terzepatide back down to the lowest does. While using the least amount of cagrilintide. Then once i reach the the minimum dose I plan to add 1 mg of retatrutide to the mix. If I lose weight while i go through this process that is an added benefit but not the primary goal here.

Bros, this is gonna be really good information from you. It is going to be a nice experiment to see how you do on it. Hopefully you are able to shred the leanest of your life.

 

[kcates]

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This will be really cool
Cag is one that will absolutely obliterate your food Noise issues.
I’ve not used it before, but I’m wondering if it would work extremely well if you wanted to do a lot of fasting

I think so, it kicked in hard by day 2. It makes me not want to even eat and so far it hasn't produced any sides like terzepatide did. I do feel that my stomach is needing food but it's just a dull stomach feeling

 

[stevesmi]

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I think so, it kicked in hard by day 2. It makes me not want to even eat and so far it hasn't produced any sides like terzepatide did. I do feel that my stomach is needing food but it's just a dull stomach feeling

We all could use more fasting. It’s very beneficial so don’t be afraid to skip meals.

 

[HarleyGuy]

We all could use more fasting. It’s very beneficial so don’t be afraid to skip meals.

Agree, I fast 16 hours every day and do a minimum of 24-36 hours once a week. It's awesome @kcates.

 

[kcates]

We all could use more fasting. It’s very beneficial so don’t be afraid to skip meals.

so what i am going through right now it will be ok not to hit my recommended protein intake daily if I so chose to skip some meals?

 

[kcates]

Day 3 was much like day 2 in the way i felt with appetite and my stomach. I did have a protein shake at work around 2pm to try and help out. I gassed out and left the jobsite at 4 pm. I was dragging and just wanted to go home. The low carbs is really hard on me at work. I just start dragging by 1 pm. i get up at 4 am so its been a long day by 1pm. Going to keep pushing through.

 

[kcates]

Day 4 today i just made up half the normal amount for breakfast 3 eggs, 6 ounces of ground beef and 4 ounces of rice after i trained today. I got it down and it wasn't to bad to eat. Then i had probably about 4 ounces of chicken for dinner. I didn't have any protein shakes today. I don't notice any type of thoughts or cravings for food. I did train legs today and it was tough workout but i pushed it. I also am going to reduce my GH back down to 3 iu a night. I am not getting the vivid dreams and sleep like before. Not sure if it can be the less food and cortisol rising in the night or the gh being at a stronger dose and I haven't adapted to it yet. Just going to try this and see if 3 iu may have been my sweet spot. If nothing changes after 3-4 days then i will see if maybe a protein shake before bed helps. We will see how well I hold up tomorrow playing 6 hours of air soft in the heat goes on less food. I am curious if I will come out of that starving like I normally do.

Side note the coolest thing about this stuff so far is the lack of bad side effects happening. The only thing I could complain about if I was going to complain is this feeling like like my stomach has this uneasy feeling in it. Its hard to describe its like I am on an empty stomach kind of hurt. Its not painful its just not a normal feeling. Its really not that bad. Most of the time when I am busy I don't notice it but if I think about it I do. Maybe its a feeling of my stomach feeling like it is a little to full. I am not sure what it is. I just burped a lot and it went away. So maybe I am just gassy.

 

[ballin2504]

Love the experiment man!

 

[stevesmi]

so what i am going through right now it will be ok not to hit my recommended protein intake daily if I so chose to skip some meals?

i don't believe in that whole 'hit your macros' thing. if that was true we would have gone extinct a long time ago

 

[kcates]

Day 5 and Day 6, Sunday and Monday. On Sunday the weird guy feeling I've been having went away. I am able to eat a little bit more. I had 2 hamburgers for lunch and 3 tacos for dinner. It was a very active day because we played airsoft all day on Sunday. Today back to not wanting to eat as much. I had a pound of chicken for first meal and had 14 ounces of pot roast for 2nd meal. Since I am prioritizing protein fist that was all I could eat today. It has really made nothing seem appetizing that is for sure. I just kinda eat because I need some protein daily.

 

[kcates]

Question: anyone splitting there dose weekly instead of once a week. I am thinking about doing .5mg x2 weekly see if it works the same or differently. Just curious to hear anyone else's experience doing it that way if they have any.

 

[LevButlerov]

Question: anyone splitting there dose weekly instead of once a week. I am thinking about doing .5mg x2 weekly see if it works the same or differently. Just curious to hear anyone else's experience doing it that way if they have any.

It's a good idea to try to split it to see if it helps. Cagrilintide can work well in a split dose @kcates

 

[kcates]

Beginning of day 7. I didn't eat any carbs yesterday. This morning I am dragging in the gym. I am getting it done hitting new pr's but wondering how I am going to make it the rest of the day. I am eating rice after this training though and that should kick things back up. Don't mentally feel hungry though but stomach is saying "feed me Seymour, feed me!"

 

[LevButlerov]

Beginning of day 7. I didn't eat any carbs yesterday. This morning I am dragging in the gym. I am getting it done hitting new pr's but wondering how I am going to make it the rest of the day. I am eating rice after this training though and that should kick things back up. Don't mentally feel hungry though but stomach is saying "feed me Seymour, feed me!"

you can try rice cakes and honey with the protein shakes?

 

[kcates]

you can try rice cakes and honey with the protein shakes?

I actually ate my normal breakfast this morning. I added some honey to it as well. I feel much better and ready to go do construction. Rice cakes and honey idea how much with each protein shake. That might be a good option to take for mid afternoon snacks when light breakfast days or when I am bulking and can eat something at work.

 

[LevButlerov]

I actually ate my normal breakfast this morning. I added some honey to it as well. I feel much better and ready to go do construction. Rice cakes and honey idea how much with each protein shake. That might be a good option to take for mid afternoon snacks when light breakfast days or when I am bulking and can eat something at work.

try to add it you'll feel better with them

 

[HarleyGuy]

I actually ate my normal breakfast this morning. I added some honey to it as well. I feel much better and ready to go do construction. Rice cakes and honey idea how much with each protein shake. That might be a good option to take for mid afternoon snacks when light breakfast days or when I am bulking and can eat something at work.

1 tbsp honey and half a dozen rice cakes and you're good to go bro. Great snack for work for fuel and preworkout too.

 

[kcates]

Wow, 6 rice cakes sounds tough! To me they are so dry. I am going to try one day it needs it. Going to get them on stock. Sounds like I am going to have to invest in the 1lb local honey gallon jug from the flea market. When u see the price of a gallon of honey you realize how expensive honey real is.

 

[kcates]

First week of using Cagrilintide 1 mg. My weight stayed the same. I weighed at 235 this morning. It has help tremendously with not wanting to eat things outside of my diet. I haven't even used my fake ice cream made out of Greek yogurt. This week I am trying .5mg on Wednesday and Saturday see how that effects me. I kind felt the drop of in the feeling that I had coming out of the gates during the week. The other cool think i notice is I really think about what I am eating and stay dialed into what i should be eating and not deviating from the diet. Over all I like the peptide so far. I also moved my Mounjaro shot back to Thursday and I am going to move back down to 10mg this coming week. Thats all i can think of to document for now on this.

 

[LevButlerov]

Wow, 6 rice cakes sounds tough! To me they are so dry. I am going to try one day it needs it. Going to get them on stock. Sounds like I am going to have to invest in the 1lb local honey gallon jug from the flea market. When u see the price of a gallon of honey you realize how expensive honey real is.

add some honey on top of the rice cakes to solve the issue

 

[kcates]

add some honey on top of the rice cakes to solve the issue

Yeah I am going to try.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah I am going to try.

perfect

 

[kcates]

I ended up this week taking .75 mg on Wednesday and 1mg on Saturday. I feel fine and the appetite suppression is going really well. I don't have the stomach weird feeling I got week one at all now. I can tell when I am hungry because I have like stomach pain from hunger but my mind acts like it's not hungry at all. I ended up eating at these times being a shake or if it's a meal time I just eat what I can and maybe have a shake with some food. Compared to terzepatide I like this pepetide better for food noise. Terzepatide I like because it deals with making A1C and glucose right. Cagrilitide I like because it doesn't make me feel ill at all. No burps either. I think running like a low dose of cat and Reta would be a great combo. Get more of the appetite suppression and the full benefits of the Reta. I also think if your just chasing food noise for weight loss u could just go cag or u could combine it with terzepatide and run low dose of both..maybe a 2.5mg terzepatide and 2 mg cagrilitide and u would have some nice weight loss stack going there. Novo Nordisk must be thinking the same thing since they have CagriSema in clinical 3 trials now showing really good results. I think this combo would still be better with terzepatide or Reta then semaglutide but that's all Novo Nordisk has at the moment. I think splitting the dose is definitely the way to go. Seems smoother and less peak and valley. I felt the first week it started out strong and end of that week I felt it wearing off. I would say like day 5 I could tell I was coming down off the peak. I think a split dose is good.

 

[HarleyGuy]

add some honey on top of the rice cakes to solve the issue

Yes this is what I meant @kcates

 

[HarleyGuy]

Nordisk must be thinking the same thing since they have CagriSema in clinical 3 trials now showing really good results.

Interesting I didn't know this I'll research this.

Toobad they didn't wait to drop the CagriReta bomb and win the whole show!

 

[LevButlerov]

@kcates posted Cagrilintide updates in his log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...or-less-my-first-cut-ever.106162/post-2067674

The cagrilitide I feel good with good appetite suppression. Using a couple of shakes a day on some days to keep protein up. The mots c I haven't noticed much as in the way of energy boost in the afternoons. I have actually been lately more worn down in the afternoons. Today I didn't work but I did feel a little lack of energy for working out. My thoughts there is two thing that could be at play here. One is my reduced carb Intake has me sluggish and feeling this way. Second my mitochondria is damaged and I need to run a recovery cycle of ss-31 then retry the motsc after running a cycle of the ss-31. I am going to keep running it for now. Revaluate things in a week or so see if energy picks up.

 

[kcates]

It came to mind today that gastric emptying is definitely slower with the terzepatide and cagrilitide combined. I do poop as much or as often. I am around 35 grams of psyllium husk a day as well. Not a complaint just an observation to log.

 

[LevButlerov]

It came to mind today that gastric emptying is definitely slower with the terzepatide and cagrilitide combined. I do poop as much or as often. I am around 35 grams of psyllium husk a day as well. Not a complaint just an observation to log.

interesting to note

 

[kcates]

interesting to note

My note meant to say I do not poop as much or as often.

 

[LevButlerov]

My note meant to say I do not poop as much or as often.

should increase water intake and see

 

[Peshay]

Anyone know if you Can you mix Cag and Reta in same syringe?

 

[LevButlerov]

Anyone know if you Can you mix Cag and Reta in same syringe?

in theory you can @Peshay but I would split it, @kcates you mixing?

 

[kcates]

in theory you can @Peshay but I would split it, @kcates you mixing?

No I don't mix one reason is my terzepatide is in an auto injector pen, Mounjaro. The cag is in a vial I draw out of. I also don't mix my pepetides In general, I take them separate. I do mix my testosterone and deca. I am just not comfortable mixing them yet with different stability. The only one I would mix is my tb500 and bpc157 but I only do th500 2 x weekly and I just put it in the belly and the bpc157 I am site injecting. So those I end up doing separate still. Now I think it coukd be ok because there are labs already offering CagrSema pre mixed for purchase. Nova Nordisk is in clinical 3 trials with this mix. But that is a pharmacitical grade mix. There is no published ph ranges for either product at this time to compare. Eli Lily has not public made the specs available yet.

 

[LevButlerov]

No I don't mix one reason is my terzepatide is in an auto injector pen, Mounjaro. The cag is in a vial I draw out of. I also don't mix my pepetides In general, I take them separate. I do mix my testosterone and deca. I am just not comfortable mixing them yet with different stability. The only one I would mix is my tb500 and bpc157 but I only do th500 2 x weekly and I just put it in the belly and the bpc157 I am site injecting. So those I end up doing separate still. Now I think it coukd be ok because there are labs already offering CagrSema pre mixed for purchase. Nova Nordisk is in clinical 3 trials with this mix. But that is a pharmacitical grade mix. There is no published ph ranges for either product at this time to compare. Eli Lily has not public made the specs available yet.

good points I just checked CagrSema is available now on sites lets see if he can mix @kcates

Anyone know if you Can you mix Cag and Reta in same syringe?

please read above @Peshay

 

[kcates]

good points I just checked CagrSema is available now on sites lets see if he can mix @kcates

please read above @Peshay

It will probably be fine but a pharmacitical made product that they have made that formulation with fillers and other things to make sure it works perfectly. Just throwing two peptides together and hoping for the best is not the same level of science they are working at. They have all the technology and money to fine tune these things. That's why we playing with research peptides doing our own research doesn't always work out the same. Good luck with your research fellow researcher! Now that I think about it I have terzepatide and Reta in vials that I buy for family members. Next week I will take a terzepatide and cagrilitide mixed together and let you know how it goes. I forgot I do have vials of terzepatide in the freezer. I am not scared to be a Ginnie pig or rat!

 

[LevButlerov]

It will probably be fine but a pharmacitical made product that they have made that formulation with fillers and other things to make sure it works perfectly. Just throwing two peptides together and hoping for the best is not the same level of science they are working at. They have all the technology and money to fine tune these things. That's why we playing with research peptides doing our own research doesn't always work out the same. Good luck with your research fellow researcher! Now that I think about it I have terzepatide and Reta in vials that I buy for family members. Next week I will take a terzepatide and cagrilitide mixed together and let you know how it goes. I forgot I do have vials of terzepatide in the freezer. I am not scared to be a Ginnie pig or rat!

I would say with research its most important to get USA made stuff so its quality @kcates

 

[kcates]

I would say with research its most important to get USA made stuff so its quality @kcates

I would say do your research on whoever you use. Be forensic about your research. There are good apples and bad apples in any economy. Because there are plenty of bad apples in the US. Whoever you use, do your due diligence.

 

[LevButlerov]

I would say do your research on whoever you use. Be forensic about your research. There are good apples and bad apples in any economy. Because there are plenty of bad apples in the US. Whoever you use, do your due diligence.

Well I can tell you Umbrella labs is USA made and tested by EVO family so I can say openly they are gtg @kcates

 

[kcates]

Well I can tell you Umbrella labs is USA made and tested by EVO family so I can say openly they are gtg @kcates

I just came back to say, best bet is to stick with the approved sources on here and saw your post. Lol

 

[kcates]

Well I can tell you Umbrella labs is USA made and tested by EVO family so I can say openly they are gtg @kcates

You can tell me, Harley guy can tell me, and mobster can tell me. Which referrals are great start but people please still do your due diligence. This is just a good life lesson in all things specially contractors which is my industry. I hear customers get screwed all the time and they tell me it came from a good referral. Then they do crappy work and then have to hire me to fix all the crap.

 

[LevButlerov]

I just came back to say, best bet is to stick with the approved sources on here and saw your post. Lol

perfect we think alike

 

[LevButlerov]

You can tell me, Harley guy can tell me, and mobster can tell me. Which referrals are great start but people please still do your due diligence. This is just a good life lesson in all things specially contractors which is my industry. I hear customers get screwed all the time and they tell me it came from a good referral. Then they do crappy work and then have to hire me to fix all the crap.

I'm happy to hear you hear us we only want the best for the EVO family!

 

[kcates]

perfect we think alike

Yes we do, my mind moves so damn quick and then I rehash stuff and think I should have added this and that. Then I have to go back and fix things. Sometimes I make it before the edit timer runs out sometimes I don't. Sometimes I get distracted and forget. Lol

 

[kcates]

I'm happy to hear you hear us we only want the best for the EVO family!

Oh I hear y'all. I want others to hear y'all but also I want others to learn to think for themselves, dig into things, and not just rely on others. Another example of this is preachers. They may be the best speaker at the podium telling you the truth but how do u know if u don't go read your Bible. But there will always be sheep and good thing in this industry there is a good shepard like Evo.

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh I hear y'all. I want others to hear y'all but also I want others to learn to think for themselves, dig into things, and not just rely on others. Another example of this is preachers. They may be the best speaker at the podium telling you the truth but how do u know if u don't go read your Bible. But there will always be sheep and good thing in this industry there is a good shepard like Evo.

very well said, EVO family helps move brothers forward

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes we do, my mind moves so damn quick and then I rehash stuff and think I should have added this and that. Then I have to go back and fix things. Sometimes I make it before the edit timer runs out sometimes I don't. Sometimes I get distracted and forget. Lol

imagine I go through 1000 mod que items I have to edit many times

 

[zedtwitter63]

I ended up this week taking .75 mg on Wednesday and 1mg on Saturday. I feel fine and the appetite suppression is going really well. I don't have the stomach weird feeling I got week one at all now. I can tell when I am hungry because I have like stomach pain from hunger but my mind acts like it's not hungry at all. I ended up eating at these times being a shake or if it's a meal time I just eat what I can and maybe have a shake with some food. Compared to terzepatide I like this pepetide better for food noise. Terzepatide I like because it deals with making A1C and glucose right. Cagrilitide I like because it doesn't make me feel ill at all. No burps either. I think running like a low dose of cat and Reta would be a great combo. Get more of the appetite suppression and the full benefits of the Reta. I also think if your just chasing food noise for weight loss u could just go cag or u could combine it with terzepatide and run low dose of both..maybe a 2.5mg terzepatide and 2 mg cagrilitide and u would have some nice weight loss stack going there. Novo Nordisk must be thinking the same thing since they have CagriSema in clinical 3 trials now showing really good results. I think this combo would still be better with terzepatide or Reta then semaglutide but that's all Novo Nordisk has at the moment. I think splitting the dose is definitely the way to go. Seems smoother and less peak and valley. I felt the first week it started out strong and end of that week I felt it wearing off. I would say like day 5 I could tell I was coming down off the peak. I think a split dose is good.

Absolutely loving the info share. Great log and ever so helpful. This is what I love about EVO, thanks for sharing @kcates. I am on 5mg Reta and 2.5mg Sema. The Sema was mainly for the food noise but really hasnt helped at all. Will now, after reading your log, incorperate 500mcg Cargi 2x weekly alongside the Sema. Then after a few weeks will try backfilling Sema and Cargi and compare, maily to reduce pinning.
Thanks again mate, keep up the great work am following along and learning.
Cheers Brother

 

[kcates]

Absolutely loving the info share. Great log and ever so helpful. This is what I love about EVO, thanks for sharing @kcates. I am on 5mg Reta and 2.5mg Sema. The Sema was mainly for the food noise but really hasnt helped at all. Will now, after reading your log, incorperate 500mcg Cargi 2x weekly alongside the Sema. Then after a few weeks will try backfilling Sema and Cargi and compare, maily to reduce pinning.
Thanks again mate, keep up the great work am following along and learning.
Cheers Brother

I am curious why u are dropping the Reta and not the sema?

 

[zedtwitter63]

I am curious why u are dropping the Reta and not the sema?

Am scaling back sema to 2mg week and keeping 5mg reta and adding 1mg cargril. Cargi will be dosing at same time as sema( bi weekly), first separately then will try in same pin. Reta always separately and only once weekly. Probably will be looking at dropping Sema eventually, but first need to kill the noise.

 

[kcates]

Am scaling back sema to 2mg week and keeping 5mg reta and adding 1mg cargril. Cargi will be dosing at same time as sema( bi weekly), first separately then will try in same pin. Reta always separately and only once weekly. Probably will be looking at dropping Sema eventually, but first need to kill the noise.

Oh I got you now. I missed understood. I actually do my cag on Wednesday and Saturday. Then I do my terzepatide on Thursday. Other then the food noise I noticed is gastric emptying slows down even more. Like this morning I feel like I need to crap but can't. I am taking 35g of psyllium husk a day which worked fine when not on the cag. I may add another 15g at night see if that helps. It's not bad though that it is slower. I feel fuller all the time. I am never hungry. There are times it gets late I know I need to eat some real food and not just rely on a protein shake. That's been my biggest issue at end of day. Usually after working out I know I need to eat and I can eat then. That's usually mid morning for me.

 

[kcates]

Update: I havent update my progress lately on cagrilitide. I think the 2mg a week is a good spot. Harley guy called it. I feel good here. No sides other then gastric emptying has slowed down even more. Still using 35 g of psyllium husk daily. I have a doctor visit this week. I am going to ask the doctor to prescribe the 7.5 mg Mounjaro. I haven't been this low in 10 months. I am going to only get a month supply then go down to the 5mg. I am currently taking 10mg for the past couple of weeks. I only really eat out of habit. A lot of the time I could just probably go all day on protein shakes. I like a good chocolate protein shake cause it taste good. So far I really like cag. I think at this point if u want something to just get rid of food noise I would suggest using this pepetide. My suggested cycle would use the cagrilitide and a low dose of Reta. Add the Reta just because there is so much other benefits to that drug why wouldn't you use it. I am a fan of cag so far like TRT, glp-1, and GH. If you thinking about trying it go for it. You won't be disappointed.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update: I havent update my progress lately on cagrilitide. I think the 2mg a week is a good spot. Harley guy called it. I feel good here. No sides other then gastric emptying has slowed down even more. Still using 35 g of psyllium husk daily. I have a doctor visit this week. I am going to ask the doctor to prescribe the 7.5 mg Mounjaro. I haven't been this low in 10 months. I am going to only get a month supply then go down to the 5mg. I am currently taking 10mg for the past couple of weeks. I only really eat out of habit. A lot of the time I could just probably go all day on protein shakes. I like a good chocolate protein shake cause it taste good. So far I really like cag. I think at this point if u want something to just get rid of food noise I would suggest using this pepetide. My suggested cycle would use the cagrilitide and a low dose of Reta. Add the Reta just because there is so much other benefits to that drug why wouldn't you use it. I am a fan of cag so far like TRT, glp-1, and GH. If you thinking about trying it go for it. You won't be disappointed.

I agree @HarleyGuy was right 2mgs cagrilintide is the sweet spot now!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Anyone know if you Can you mix Cag and Reta in same syringe?

I wouldn't until a Cag/Reta formulation has come out by an approved source that we can verify is good to go. They're too expensive to bother trying to save an extra slin pin.

and not just rely on others

Thing is though @kcates not everyone is as diligent or like minded as you and I are (and many others too). So, EVO has it's approved sources who are vetted on ongoing basis and trusted so that most members can rely on EVO and not on their own selves and the work has been done and is done for them behind the scenes. We can't expect everyone to have the resources nor mental acuity that we do. Some just want to find a place to land that is trusted and press "order" and exhale. That is what EVO offers.

 

[zedtwitter63]

I wouldn't until a Cag/Reta formulation has come out by an approved source that we can verify is good to go. They're too expensive to bother trying to save an extra slin pin.


Thing is though @kcates not everyone is as diligent or like minded as you and I are (and many others too). So, EVO has it's approved sources who are vetted on ongoing basis and trusted so that most members can rely on EVO and not on their own selves and the work has been done and is done for them behind the scenes. We can't expect everyone to have the resources nor mental acuity that we do. Some just want to find a place to land that is trusted and press "order" and exhale. That is what EVO offers.

Sometimes it is nice to be able to have family you can trust and rely on!

 

[kcates]

I wouldn't until a Cag/Reta formulation has come out by an approved source that we can verify is good to go. They're too expensive to bother trying to save an extra slin pin.


Thing is though @kcates not everyone is as diligent or like minded as you and I are (and many others too). So, EVO has it's approved sources who are vetted on ongoing basis and trusted so that most members can rely on EVO and not on their own selves and the work has been done and is done for them behind the scenes. We can't expect everyone to have the resources nor mental acuity that we do. Some just want to find a place to land that is trusted and press "order" and exhale. That is what EVO offers.

Absolutely, that's why I came back and agree with Lev for the ones that want the easy route. I will still encourage this, do your deep dive, as I got older I got wiser and did my deep dives instead of relying on others. We can all change and learn if we are motivated. Maybe a s a young buck if I had heard this more I would have gotten wiser sooner.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Absolutely, that's why I came back and agree with Lev for the ones that want the easy route. I will still encourage this, do your deep dive, as I got older I got wiser and did my deep dives instead of relying on others. We can all change and learn if we are motivated. Maybe a s a young buck if I had heard this more I would have gotten wiser sooner.

Exactly ya, well said.

 

[kcates]

Alright, I used the cag and terzepatide combined I the same syringe. Everything went in the syringe fine. I jection went fine didn't feel any pip or anything. It's been half the week and I take my other shot of cag. I would say it worked just fine. I still felt the same as the previous week. From trying it I would say it can be combined I the same syringe no problem. I will keep trying it

 

[zedtwitter63]

Alright, I used the cag and terzepatide combined I the same syringe. Everything went in the syringe fine. I jection went fine didn't feel any pip or anything. It's been half the week and I take my other shot of cag. I would say it worked just fine. I still felt the same as the previous week. From trying it I would say it can be combined I the same syringe no problem. I will keep trying it

I have been doing the same except with sema. Same syringe no discolouration or clouding. Seems to work fine as hunger noise has been reduced. Will continue for another2 weeks and increase cargi to reduce noise more.
Love your posts and research.

 

[kcates]

I have been doing the same except with sema. Same syringe no discolouration or clouding. Seems to work fine as hunger noise has been reduced. Will continue for another2 weeks and increase cargi to reduce noise more.
Love your posts and research.

Sounds like it will be alright mixing it with the glp-1s

 

[zedtwitter63]

Sounds like it will be alright mixing it with the glp-1s

No intention of trying it with reta though

 

[kcates]

When I get to the point where I am adding Reta to the mix I will try it.

 

[zedtwitter63]

When I get to the point where I am adding Reta to the mix I will try it.

Great, look forward to your observations. Have a good one mate.

 

[kcates]

Great, look forward to your observations. Have a good one mate.

Same to you, buddy!

 

[kcates]

Update: took my second dose of the week today. 1mg x2 weekly. Feel good, no real food noise at all. I can still eat for the most part. I can eat as much as not ql so supplementing with 1 -2 60 gram protein shakes a day. I have been taking at least a shake to work for mid day meal. If I don't eat enough at breakfast or dinner I will have a shake to make up for the loss of food I take. Just got my monthly inbody scan. I am down another pound. Skeletal muscle stayed the same. I went down a fat percentage last month. Finally broke 20%. Now I am going down to 10-12 %. Over all I still love the cagrilitide.

 

[kcates]

I remember someone said wait until we see a lab mixing cag and Reta. A source of mine just put out a memo they are going to offer Reta and cag combo 10mg/10mg on a limited run to see if it is something people are interested in. This would be a good one to try if you starting from the bottom. You could start .5mg/.5mg a week and see how it goes. If u have been using glp-1 and have a dose already for the glp-1 I think using them separately so u can the doses of each separately is a good protocol. It sounds like they can be mixed together in the same vial Soni would assume in the same syringe will be the same. I am not at the point of using Reta yet So I haven't tried the Reta and cag in the same syringe yet.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update: took my second dose of the week today. 1mg x2 weekly. Feel good, no real food noise at all. I can still eat for the most part. I can eat as much as not ql so supplementing with 1 -2 60 gram protein shakes a day. I have been taking at least a shake to work for mid day meal. If I don't eat enough at breakfast or dinner I will have a shake to make up for the loss of food I take. Just got my monthly inbody scan. I am down another pound. Skeletal muscle stayed the same. I went down a fat percentage last month. Finally broke 20%. Now I am going down to 10-12 %. Over all I still love the cagrilitide.

you're doing mostly shakes now? anything else?

 

[kcates]

you're doing mostly shakes now? anything else?

No, I do food mostly and supplement with shakes. I try and eat my normal breakfast. Then depending on how much I can eat I supplement with a shake. Then I will have a shake in the afternoon. Then dinner depending on how I feel I may have a shake or eat meat and veggies. For today as an example. I ate 1/3 of my normal breakfast, eggs ground beef and rice stir fried. So I had a shake afterwards. Then I didn't eat any rice cakes and shake this afternoon. I didn't wear down and it wasn't a heavy work load today. Then dinner I had 3 ears of corn and a chicken breast. I cooked up some red fish I found in the freezer as well but only had a bite to taste it. I know I need protein for muscle building and preserving muscle but I am eating kinda how I feel and not forcing down protein just to reach a number right now. If I am not hungry I won't eat or just have a shake. Tomorrow I move down to 7.5 mg terzepatide for a month. Then I will go down to 5mg next 28 days.

 

[LevButlerov]

No, I do food mostly and supplement with shakes. I try and eat my normal breakfast. Then depending on how much I can eat I supplement with a shake. Then I will have a shake in the afternoon. Then dinner depending on how I feel I may have a shake or eat meat and veggies. For today as an example. I ate 1/3 of my normal breakfast, eggs ground beef and rice stir fried. So I had a shake afterwards. Then I didn't eat any rice cakes and shake this afternoon. I didn't wear down and it wasn't a heavy work load today. Then dinner I had 3 ears of corn and a chicken breast. I cooked up some red fish I found in the freezer as well but only had a bite to taste it. I know I need protein for muscle building and preserving muscle but I am eating kinda how I feel and not forcing down protein just to reach a number right now. If I am not hungry I won't eat or just have a shake. Tomorrow I move down to 7.5 mg terzepatide for a month. Then I will go down to 5mg next 28 days.

with all the doses of GLPs you can eat ok?

 

[kcates]

with all the doses of GLPs you can eat ok?

Yep, thats why I am backing down off it to a maintenance dose of 2.5mg to stay on it so when Reta hits the market I have a chance to switch over plus it does help my A1C and glucose being on the terzepatide. Once I get to 2.5 mg I will add in the Reta. Probably just 1 mg a week. Then I will decide if I cut the cag or not. I will probably go off it and see how info with just the terzepatide and Reta and make sure I don't start eating crap or not. The cag helps me not want anything but meat and rice and veggies. I don't crave my Greek yogurt concoction or chocolate. It's weird before I started my health journey I never ate sweets. I just ate large amounts of meat and pastas rice and potatoes. After the first year of being on terzepatide I started craving chocolate and one brand of gummy bears harbor gummy bears are the only ones I will eat. They also have a childhood attachment to them. My dad loved Germany food. So when we went to the Germany restaurant my parents always got me a bag of Harbor gummy bears. Anyways that is the plan and yea I can still eat. Just think if I ever tried one of the steroids or peptides that make u want to eat. I probably grow like a weed

 

[kcates]

with all the doses of GLPs you can eat ok?

Also I have been on terzepatide for almost 3 years. This September will be my 3 year anniversary. That will be also my fitness and weightlifting anniversary. That's when it all started for me going on terzepatide.

 

[LevButlerov]

Also I have been on terzepatide for almost 3 years. This September will be my 3 year anniversary. That will be also my fitness and weightlifting anniversary. That's when it all started for me going on terzepatide.

its a good journey EVO family support and love your way!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yep, thats why I am backing down off it to a maintenance dose of 2.5mg to stay on it so when Reta hits the market I have a chance to switch over plus it does help my A1C and glucose being on the terzepatide. Once I get to 2.5 mg I will add in the Reta. Probably just 1 mg a week. Then I will decide if I cut the cag or not. I will probably go off it and see how info with just the terzepatide and Reta and make sure I don't start eating crap or not. The cag helps me not want anything but meat and rice and veggies. I don't crave my Greek yogurt concoction or chocolate. It's weird before I started my health journey I never ate sweets. I just ate large amounts of meat and pastas rice and potatoes. After the first year of being on terzepatide I started craving chocolate and one brand of gummy bears harbor gummy bears are the only ones I will eat. They also have a childhood attachment to them. My dad loved Germany food. So when we went to the Germany restaurant my parents always got me a bag of Harbor gummy bears. Anyways that is the plan and yea I can still eat. Just think if I ever tried one of the steroids or peptides that make u want to eat. I probably grow like a weed

I think you should slowly cut down tirzepatide and add cagrilinite to balance it

 

[kcates]

I think you should slowly cut down tirzepatide and add cagrilinite to balance it

I am running my prescription protocol that my doctor laid out based on what he can prescribed. Unfortunately with the mounjaro u have to do 2.5mg jumps. We will see how I feel on 7.5. I don't think I am going to feel any different as I come down I think I have lost the food noise feeling from terzepatide and it's only doing the benefits that I can't actually feel like keeping my A1C and glucose in check. I believe I will get this benefits still at a lower dose. I am going to check my levels when I get in the 5's and see how I am doing see if either is creeping up.

 

[LevButlerov]

I am running my prescription protocol that my doctor laid out based on what he can prescribed. Unfortunately with the mounjaro u have to do 2.5mg jumps. We will see how I feel on 7.5. I don't think I am going to feel any different as I come down I think I have lost the food noise feeling from terzepatide and it's only doing the benefits that I can't actually feel like keeping my A1C and glucose in check. I believe I will get this benefits still at a lower dose. I am going to check my levels when I get in the 5's and see how I am doing see if either is creeping up.

lets get into the 5s and see how you are

 

[kcates]

lets get into the 5s and see how you are

Yeah that is the plan as for now. I only got prescribed one month of 7.5mg the. Next month I get a box of 5 mg.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah that is the plan as for now. I only got prescribed one month of 7.5mg the. Next month I get a box of 5 mg.

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