cycle help

[timgrantdodge]

Ok. Here it goes. I'm new to this forum thing. But I believe I need some input. I've been juicing since about 1991 on and off.
I like to run sus, deca, dianabol early to kick things off. I'm 50. I only use otc pct's at the end of a cycle. But I never really come off, completely. Off cycle for me is 1 mg. Sus every 10 days. The last time I came off entirely I felt like I got hit by a heavy fast freight train. Hard. I believe that my receptors are so overloaded that I'm having to do bigger not bigger doses to get results that I want. Not getting a lot of bang for my bucks, if you will. I would appreciate advice and suggestions.

 

[gearhead]

bro well why dont you take time off and clear your receptors? maybe do a detox???

 

[dylangemelli]

i think you answered your own question bro... you are desensitized... ever see someone that takes something like vicodin too often? they need more and more each time until its finally not effective at all... then they have no alternative but to dose dangerously high or crash off... you need to run an extensive pct... probably 8 weeks minimum... then get blood levels tested to see where they are from when you start pct... after that, you can decide what to do next but you need quite a long time away man... your going to severely hurt yourself if you don't get this addressed soon... you may not see it or feel it now but you will soon, i assure you man

 

[stevesmi]

I don't think you can ever match your first cycle.. holy shit I felt on top of the world

 

[timgrantdodge]

Yes sir. Not looking forward to it.
But really have no choice. Thanks for input.

 

[timgrantdodge]

Yeah I knew it. Time for action. Thanks for your input

 

[RickRock]

How much time between your high doses are you cruising on just 1ml of sustanon? The issue is not going to be related to androgen receptor desensitization (no such thing actually), but more than likely rising myostatin levels (the hormone that controls and prohibits muscle growth). If you aren't cruising very long, and go right back to blasting then myostatin will still be high and it will take really high levels of androgens to overcome that. Make sure to take enough time to cruise (at least 10-12 weeks minimum) to get the most out of your next cycle blast.

 

[goldfinger]

I don't think you can ever match your first cycle.. holy shit I felt on top of the world

It's possible, you just have to be willing to wait a long as time. I took a 2 year break between cycle 2 and 3, and the amazement was real when I got on #3. However, I wont comment on if its possible after you've ran a lot more cycles overall than myself.

 

[JackSteel]

1mg of test e10days?? Do you mean 100mg?


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[JackSteel]

How much time between your high doses are you cruising on just 1ml of sustanon? The issue is not going to be related to androgen receptor desensitization (no such thing actually), but more than likely rising myostatin levels (the hormone that controls and prohibits muscle growth). If you aren't cruising very long, and go right back to blasting then myostatin will still be high and it will take really high levels of androgens to overcome that. Make sure to take enough time to cruise (at least 10-12 weeks minimum) to get the most out of your next cycle blast.

And I agree with Rick you aren't overloaded.


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[Shrine]

I would take some time off for sure... Run a extensive pct and give yourself a break. I bet you feel awesome when you go back on

 

[richard head]

just my 2 cents
I believe sustanon is so outdated man that could be a source of your problems
youre just overloading with all these test esters which is redundant
not sure of your dosage so I cant say with certainty but I would switch from sust to a prop to kickstart a cycle then to a cyp or enanthate
switch out of the nor 19 based deca
in the first place due to its combined estrogenic/progestagenic properties, is quite suppressive of the natural testosterone production. Since it actively participates at three receptors its very quick and merciless when it comes to giving negative feedback to the release of gonadotropin releasing hormone from the hypothalamus

 

[hurricane]

Ok. Here it goes. I'm new to this forum thing. But I believe I need some input. I've been juicing since about 1991 on and off.
I like to run sus, deca, dianabol early to kick things off. I'm 50. I only use otc pct's at the end of a cycle. But I never really come off, completely. Off cycle for me is 1 mg. Sus every 10 days. The last time I came off entirely I felt like I got hit by a heavy fast freight train. Hard. I believe that my receptors are so overloaded that I'm having to do bigger not bigger doses to get results that I want. Not getting a lot of bang for my bucks, if you will. I would appreciate advice and suggestions.

so you are basically on trt and blasting and crusing? your post is very confusing to me.What are your dosages like ?