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Do you suggest taking two types of steroids for a 1st steroid cycle? I'm 30 years old and just curious since I'm going to start doing steroids soon. And I been lifting weights for 5 years, eating right, and still don't look like someone who competes in Men's Physique. My hard work just have me looking athletic and healthy. My goal is to compete in Men's Physique in the future.
there is no rule that 'you must do this' for a first cycle
the cookie cutter first cycle though is yes 500mg of test per week. but don't think that it is 'safe' or won't shut you down or any of that.. it is serious business.
you will need to run proper ancilaries and pct
the cookie cutter first cycle though is yes 500mg of test per week. but don't think that it is 'safe' or won't shut you down or any of that.. it is serious business.
you will need to run proper ancilaries and pct
Im starting with 250mg of test cyp a week plus im taking mk677 with it.
Going to see how that goes. I know what I typically see with the mk677 (nutrobal) from SARMS1 so seeing if 12-14 weeks of 250mg test cyp will add anything dramatic.
If not I am going to run my PCT then start and do 2 doses of 250mg test cyp a week.
Just make 100% sure you have a PCT in hand. As Stevemi mentioned its not something to mess around with or look at as an after thought. Its not cheap so expect to spend $400+ on a decent pct of Nolva, clomid, aromasin, GW, osta, and HCgenerate. Most of these purchases will give you enough for 2 for 2 pcts but dont take shortcuts get a full pct in hand before even dosing any test.
Going to see how that goes. I know what I typically see with the mk677 (nutrobal) from SARMS1 so seeing if 12-14 weeks of 250mg test cyp will add anything dramatic.
If not I am going to run my PCT then start and do 2 doses of 250mg test cyp a week.
Just make 100% sure you have a PCT in hand. As Stevemi mentioned its not something to mess around with or look at as an after thought. Its not cheap so expect to spend $400+ on a decent pct of Nolva, clomid, aromasin, GW, osta, and HCgenerate. Most of these purchases will give you enough for 2 for 2 pcts but dont take shortcuts get a full pct in hand before even dosing any test.
E32038
EVO V.I.P.
Hey man - genetics plays a huge part. Even steroids may not get you to competition level or in a magazine. My brother was a pitcher for the Reading Phillies. He had a good consistent fastball but never got called to the big leagues. He had contemplated steroids for awhile, but a pro player gave him some really good advice. He basically told him that you're a damn good pitcher, but even steroids won't make you an awesome pitcher ready for the MLB. You either have it or you don't. No amount of practice or steroids can put me on any pro sports team. No amount of practice can make me beat Magnus Carlen in Chess. You either have it or you don't man. Guys you see in the magazines, have near perfect to perfect genetics naturally.
on a first cycle, i would only use one steroid, that being test... adding a sarm or two is no big deal but with steroids, its best to see how your body responds to just one at first
What's the diet like?
swagger2011jack
New Member
Think over before using steroids and if you really want to consume it, do low testosterone cycle and try to focus on taking healthy diet.
If you really think to the rapid increase of testosterone level in the blood so you may try Testosterone Base injection that is ideal for pre-training purpose or for powerlifting.
If you really think to the rapid increase of testosterone level in the blood so you may try Testosterone Base injection that is ideal for pre-training purpose or for powerlifting.
This is what I recommend for a first steroid cycle -
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg EOD
After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone 500mg/week
aromasin 12.5mg EOD
After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
I disagree I’ve seen gains similar to running peptides using mk677.
Sarms1 stuff has worked great but to each their own.
Robthomas
Buff Brother
For what they charge there is gh out there that test in the 23 range for what they charge
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Yea I just have seen most quality GH for $3+ per IU. Pharma is even more. If you are dosing 3-4ius a day thats $300+ a month.
I get MK677 for $180 and thats for 2 months.
Now not arguing that quality GH wont yield better results I unfortunately havent found a reliable source with quality stuff that can compete with MK677 at the price point.
I get MK677 for $180 and thats for 2 months.
Now not arguing that quality GH wont yield better results I unfortunately havent found a reliable source with quality stuff that can compete with MK677 at the price point.
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Lean_N_Mean
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But, as above, you can't argue on price. That's economics vs results. GH can and MUST beat what amounts to an enhancer of natural levels
yup those are the results you should expect.. keep us updated man. you lookin ripped too
Yea no they will definitely be part of my next cycle. I had already ordered a bunch of MK677 which I want to use up first.
Very reasonably priced but again my only point is with the Code its 10% off then another 10% if you do bitcoin so 20% off total still leaves it at around $550 for 2 kits to run 2 months.
MK677 costs $180 for 2 months. Obviously if money were no issue everyone would run GH. My only point was mk677 isnt garbage. It isnt GH but it gives very good results for the money.
Just my opinion though.
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Oh completely agree! My only issue with GH is the fragility, reconstitution (being very delicate with it), refrigeration, pinning daily, etc.
With a wife and kids that is near impossible for me lol. Test once a week I can do. MK677 adds to that. I am going to try though to figure out a way to discreetly store it and try running it for about 3-4 months come this winter. Its definitely on my list.
All very true
Lean_N_Mean
New member
Agree to disagree.
Lean_N_Mean
New member
Oh no it will just replace your natural test levels to maybe a higher natural level of about 1400 instead of 1300 but your only replacing your natural test levels for sure. It’s fact not opinion. You should up the dose to at least 400-500 weekly!
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Lean_N_Mean
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bro nutrobal....works awesome...im stacking 25mgs ED now...sweet!
Lean_N_Mean
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Never tried or heard much about nutrobal. I’ll have to read up on it and check it out. Thanks bud!
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Hey mobster, I actually haven’t run bloods while on nutrobal but essentially I usually use it in my cutting stacks (with cardarine and osta) and then in my pct. I have been able to maintain strength, great recovery, and loss of body fat.
I’ve run peptides and I get similar results to running an ipamorelin/ghrp2 & cjc stack.
Haven’t run pure GH so cant compare to that but I like nutrobal as much as peptides and the lack of pinning, storage, etc is a huge plus.
My last cutting phase with nutrobal I dropped from 268 to 245 over a 16 week span and dropped from approximately 16% body fat down to 12% but strength was maintained which I hadn’t been able to do in the past.
I know this is all anecdotal and without bloods it’s not as meaningful but just my honest feedback.
Lean_N_Mean
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That’s a very informative article. Thanks for sharing!
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