Gyno 10 years after cycle?

[TheT]

Hi guys,

Bit of a weird one, been recently getting more serious about my fitness and health again and have started getting a pea sized gyno lump out of the blue, which seems to coincide roughly when I've started getting more serious about training again + adding cardio, and around a month ago starting magnesium (Thorne Citramate 270mg a day, ADAM fish oil (1.2g DHA + EPA combined a day), 2 a day Thorne Basic Nutrient mutivitamin and increasing my creatine dose from 6g to 10g a day.

I've put on some decent mass this year so far after negelecting training for far too long.

Male, 37, 5'10 220lbs/98kg definitely carrying extra fat but I am quite solidly built (lost a few lbs lately, currently on a slight caloric defecit) and freaking out a bit how this has come out of nowhere.

I'll be getting bloods taken and nolvadex soon, but has anyone else had an experience like this? Haven't touched the gear in about 10 years in which I was susceptible to a small gyno lump on the same side which went away completely after nolva.

 

[Nasser1997o2]

Hey bro, i actually just started a 10 week phase to get my gyno as bad as possible before getting it removed.

Alot of people will say you can shrink it with SERMs and AI's, but i personally think its just better to get it removed.

Consider that.

 

[bigKO1]

Could it potentially have been there already and only just started noticing it as you've lost weight?

 

[TheT]

Definitely wasn't there before as it is sensitive/slightly painful and I've been down to sub 10% bodyfat a few years before this and no lump at all then.

 

[TheT]

Hey bro, i actually just started a 10 week phase to get my gyno as bad as possible before getting it removed.

Alot of people will say you can shrink it with SERMs and AI's, but i personally think its just better to get it removed.

Consider that.

I actually had great results years ago with the gyno lump completely disappearing or shrinking to a point of not being able to feel it with Nolva in the past.

I'll try the Nolva first, but my understanding is that the gyno becomes more permanent if not addressed quickly and probably need surgery then as a last resort.

 

[bigKO1]

I've heard Raloxifene can be more effective than over SERMS for gyno: moreplatesmoredates.com/how-to-get-rid-of-gyno-without-surgery/
But haven't had first hand experience with it or what the sides are...just something that may be worth looking at.

 

[toddthelineman]

Even lifetime nattys can get gyno. It’s not even that rare. Something is going on inside you. Seems best to treat the symptoms asap because that is the acute problem. And narrowing down the cause will be your very next move. IMO

 

[TheT]

Even lifetime nattys can get gyno. It’s not even that rare. Something is going on inside you. Seems best to treat the symptoms asap because that is the acute problem. And narrowing down the cause will be your very next move. IMO

Agreed, next challenge will be finding a doctor that wants to do the right tests....

Just seems so strange that this has happened coincidentally at the same time as training more + more supps + vitamins etc. Surely that wouldn't be enough to completely disrupt my endoctrine system.

 

[toddthelineman]

Agreed, next challenge will be finding a doctor that wants to do the right tests....

Just seems so strange that this has happened coincidentally at the same time as training more + more supps + vitamins etc. Surely that wouldn't be enough to completely disrupt my endoctrine system.

But it did. Maybe your testosterone went up quite a bit, and that was enough for the amount that you normally aromatize to be too much e2. Or maybe you’ve had some strange exposure that caused it. Or a function of age. You may never know for sure. But it is happening.

 

[TheT]

But it did. Maybe your testosterone went up quite a bit, and that was enough for the amount that you normally aromatize to be too much e2. Or maybe you’ve had some strange exposure that caused it. Or a function of age. You may never know for sure. But it is happening.

True, its all just speculationn so I'll run some Nolva, get some bloods, and update the thread.

 

[toddthelineman]

True, its all just speculationn so I'll run some Nolva, get some bloods, and update the thread.

Good job keeping cool. Nothing to freak out about. It happens.

 

[mcstabby]

From someone whos had cancer in their 30's, that did nothing about it for 6 months thinking self medicating would make it go away, Id be seeing a doctor about a suspicious lump.

 

[TheT]

From someone whos had cancer in their 30's, that did nothing about it for 6 months thinking self medicating would make it go away, Id be seeing a doctor about a suspicious lump.

I'm keeping that in mind too, thankyou, you just never know, and better safe than sorry.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi guys,

Bit of a weird one, been recently getting more serious about my fitness and health again and have started getting a pea sized gyno lump out of the blue, which seems to coincide roughly when I've started getting more serious about training again + adding cardio, and around a month ago starting magnesium (Thorne Citramate 270mg a day, ADAM fish oil (1.2g DHA + EPA combined a day), 2 a day Thorne Basic Nutrient mutivitamin and increasing my creatine dose from 6g to 10g a day.

I've put on some decent mass this year so far after negelecting training for far too long.

Male, 37, 5'10 220lbs/98kg definitely carrying extra fat but I am quite solidly built (lost a few lbs lately, currently on a slight caloric defecit) and freaking out a bit how this has come out of nowhere.

I'll be getting bloods taken and nolvadex soon, but has anyone else had an experience like this? Haven't touched the gear in about 10 years in which I was susceptible to a small gyno lump on the same side which went away completely after nolva.

Definitely wasn't there before as it is sensitive/slightly painful and I've been down to sub 10% bodyfat a few years before this and no lump at all then.

I actually had great results years ago with the gyno lump completely disappearing or shrinking to a point of not being able to feel it with Nolva in the past.

I'll try the Nolva first, but my understanding is that the gyno becomes more permanent if not addressed quickly and probably need surgery then as a last resort.

welcome back to the EVO family @TheT we missed you!
tbh nobody can give you real answers until you post the basics, right now there is no question and no data to work from. Example the pics of the gyno, what does it look like how bad?
Start a log and include your stats, goal, current compounds and doses, pin schedule, cals and macros, training split with key lifts, sleep, BP, and your latest bloodwork so the EVO family can actually support you instead of guessing. 15min of your time to start

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My anti gyno cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

 

[Nasser1997o2]

I actually had great results years ago with the gyno lump completely disappearing or shrinking to a point of not being able to feel it with Nolva in the past.

I'll try the Nolva first, but my understanding is that the gyno becomes more permanent if not addressed quickly and probably need surgery then as a last resort.

Do the surgery as the first resort. The 3 months you spend trying to fix it buy completely tanking your estrogen could be 3 months spend recovering.

You MIGHT fix it with SERM and AI abuse (ignoring the health effects)

You WILL fix it with surgery.

I know the cost is high, and the recovery might suck, but it fixes it for life.

 

[TheT]

Blood tests booked for tomorrow, getting the whole kitchen sink test package.

Updoc is great, got a referral for the tests within 5min instead of going through an uphill battle with my regular doc and waiting 1-2 weeks.

 

[stevesmi]

Hi guys,

Bit of a weird one, been recently getting more serious about my fitness and health again and have started getting a pea sized gyno lump out of the blue, which seems to coincide roughly when I've started getting more serious about training again + adding cardio, and around a month ago starting magnesium (Thorne Citramate 270mg a day, ADAM fish oil (1.2g DHA + EPA combined a day), 2 a day Thorne Basic Nutrient mutivitamin and increasing my creatine dose from 6g to 10g a day.

I've put on some decent mass this year so far after negelecting training for far too long.

Male, 37, 5'10 220lbs/98kg definitely carrying extra fat but I am quite solidly built (lost a few lbs lately, currently on a slight caloric defecit) and freaking out a bit how this has come out of nowhere.

I'll be getting bloods taken and nolvadex soon, but has anyone else had an experience like this? Haven't touched the gear in about 10 years in which I was susceptible to a small gyno lump on the same side which went away completely after nolva.

It's called estrogen rebound and it happens more than people think. Most of the time people don't even notice it though.

 

[Mobster]

The two aren't connected. The cycle 10 years ago is NOT causing gyno now

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hi guys,

Bit of a weird one, been recently getting more serious about my fitness and health again and have started getting a pea sized gyno lump out of the blue, which seems to coincide roughly when I've started getting more serious about training again + adding cardio, and around a month ago starting magnesium (Thorne Citramate 270mg a day, ADAM fish oil (1.2g DHA + EPA combined a day), 2 a day Thorne Basic Nutrient mutivitamin and increasing my creatine dose from 6g to 10g a day.

I've put on some decent mass this year so far after negelecting training for far too long.

Male, 37, 5'10 220lbs/98kg definitely carrying extra fat but I am quite solidly built (lost a few lbs lately, currently on a slight caloric defecit) and freaking out a bit how this has come out of nowhere.

I'll be getting bloods taken and nolvadex soon, but has anyone else had an experience like this? Haven't touched the gear in about 10 years in which I was susceptible to a small gyno lump on the same side which went away completely after nolva.

If you are prone to gyno, you want to keep letro on hand always and don't be afraid to use it.

 

[ceo]

Hi guys,

Bit of a weird one, been recently getting more serious about my fitness and health again and have started getting a pea sized gyno lump out of the blue, which seems to coincide roughly when I've started getting more serious about training again + adding cardio, and around a month ago starting magnesium (Thorne Citramate 270mg a day, ADAM fish oil (1.2g DHA + EPA combined a day), 2 a day Thorne Basic Nutrient mutivitamin and increasing my creatine dose from 6g to 10g a day.

I've put on some decent mass this year so far after negelecting training for far too long.

Male, 37, 5'10 220lbs/98kg definitely carrying extra fat but I am quite solidly built (lost a few lbs lately, currently on a slight caloric defecit) and freaking out a bit how this has come out of nowhere.

I'll be getting bloods taken and nolvadex soon, but has anyone else had an experience like this? Haven't touched the gear in about 10 years in which I was susceptible to a small gyno lump on the same side which went away completely after nolva.

Bros, 10 years, that's a long time. Sometimes this can happen though. Obviously if it happened to you, it happened to others.

 

[Ulter]

You might want to have a doctor check it out because sometimes it can be misdiagnosed.

 

[2Thick]

Hi guys,

Bit of a weird one, been recently getting more serious about my fitness and health again and have started getting a pea sized gyno lump out of the blue, which seems to coincide roughly when I've started getting more serious about training again + adding cardio, and around a month ago starting magnesium (Thorne Citramate 270mg a day, ADAM fish oil (1.2g DHA + EPA combined a day), 2 a day Thorne Basic Nutrient mutivitamin and increasing my creatine dose from 6g to 10g a day.

I've put on some decent mass this year so far after negelecting training for far too long.

Male, 37, 5'10 220lbs/98kg definitely carrying extra fat but I am quite solidly built (lost a few lbs lately, currently on a slight caloric defecit) and freaking out a bit how this has come out of nowhere.

I'll be getting bloods taken and nolvadex soon, but has anyone else had an experience like this? Haven't touched the gear in about 10 years in which I was susceptible to a small gyno lump on the same side which went away completely after nolva.

10 years is a long time. I haven't heard of someone getting this after 10 years. I've heard of a few months or maybe a year.

 

[LevButlerov]

Blood tests booked for tomorrow, getting the whole kitchen sink test package.

Updoc is great, got a referral for the tests within 5min instead of going through an uphill battle with my regular doc and waiting 1-2 weeks.

sure let us know about bloods @TheT

did you see my post about log?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/gyno-10-years-after-cycle.110874/post-2063850

welcome back to the EVO family @TheT we missed you!
tbh nobody can give you real answers until you post the basics, right now there is no question and no data to work from. Example the pics of the gyno, what does it look like how bad?
Start a log and include your stats, goal, current compounds and doses, pin schedule, cals and macros, training split with key lifts, sleep, BP, and your latest bloodwork so the EVO family can actually support you instead of guessing. 15min of your time to start

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My anti gyno cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

 

[TheT]

 

[TheT]

Can't see anything crazy there that might explain what is going on....

Started taking Metamucil twice a day and reducing sugar and saturated fat a bit at least to get that cholestrol under control, I blame my affliction for smash burgers and KFC....

 

[LevButlerov]

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Can't see anything crazy there that might explain what is going on....

Started taking Metamucil twice a day and reducing sugar and saturated fat a bit at least to get that cholestrol under control, I blame my affliction for smash burgers and KFC....

you e2 is 70 could be low for you @TheT so I would see if it goes up and down over time but 1 blood work no log we just guessing
you really need to get a log up asap
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/gyno-10-years-after-cycle.110874/post-2063850

 

[TheT]

Bit of an update:

1.5 weeks into 20mg a day Sparta Nolva from @UGL OZ, and I can already feel the lump has decreased a lot in size, it has gone from approximately 1.5-2cm diameter to around half of that so far.

 

[LevButlerov]

Bit of an update:

1.5 weeks into 20mg a day Sparta Nolva from @UGL OZ, and I can already feel the lump has decreased a lot in size, it has gone from approximately 1.5-2cm diameter to around half of that so far.

perfect good decrease in gyno @TheT did you post TD pics for Team UGL OZ @UGL OZ @UGL OZ Support Rep

 

[TheT]

Update: slightly over 3 weeks in, lump shrinking seems to be accelerating, but damn my energy has tanked and I feel depressed for no reason, going to try 20mg Nolva every other day instead of every day now to see if that makes a difference.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Update: slightly over 3 weeks in, lump shrinking seems to be accelerating, but damn my energy has tanked and I feel depressed for no reason, going to try 20mg Nolva every other day instead of every day now to see if that makes a difference.

Just got caught up on this thread bro. Nolva will work as you can see especially when you catch it early.

I too had to decrease my Nolva dose after exactly 3 weeks when I ran a gyno reduction experiment last year in my 2025 log. I then had to cut it out entirely as I was getting way too moody and completely apathetic. Ideally if you were to keep going the Nolva could eventually nuke a lot of the acute gyno but if you're not tolerating it and have any type of life where your serenity and mood matters then I'd reduce it as well.

Keep us posted.

You should start a gyno log bro.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update: slightly over 3 weeks in, lump shrinking seems to be accelerating, but damn my energy has tanked and I feel depressed for no reason, going to try 20mg Nolva every other day instead of every day now to see if that makes a difference.

depression and energy down is estrogen issue @TheT thats why a log is a must we need to know what you're doing

 

[HarleyGuy]

Update: slightly over 3 weeks in, lump shrinking seems to be accelerating, but damn my energy has tanked and I feel depressed for no reason, going to try 20mg Nolva every other day instead of every day now to see if that makes a difference.

Just got caught up on this thread bro. Nolva will work as you can see especially when you catch it early.

I too had to decrease my Nolva dose after exactly 3 weeks when I ran a gyno reduction experiment last year in my 2025 log. I then had to cut it out entirely as I was getting way too moody and completely apathetic. Ideally if you were to keep going the Nolva could eventually nuke a lot of the acute gyno but if you're not tolerating it and have any type of life where your serenity and mood matters then I'd reduce it as well.

Keep us posted.

You should start a gyno log bro.