Community Research How to mix peptides?

[LevButlerov]

How to mix peptides?
This will be our community guide @HarleyGuy and I discussed here
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-training-log.106850/post-1855029

• Sterile is #1 IMO!
• Work on a clean surface, wash hands, wipe every vial top and needle hub with alcohol, open new needles only, and use bacteriostatic water not plain tap or saline (yes I had questions about using tap water!!!).
• Pull air into the syringe equal to the water you plan to add, push that air into the bac water vial to make withdrawal easy, draw the water, then inject it slowly into the peptide vial with the tip touching the glass wall so the stream runs down the side and you avoid foaming.
• Do not shake. Swirl gently until the powder dissolves clear.
• Store in the fridge at 35-46F (2 to 8 C), keep upright, protect from light if the label says to, and do not freeze. If you see particles, or color change, dump it.
• Use bac water mixes within 28 days once opened, don't keep it for a long time past 25 days usually.
• Never share vials or needles.
• Plan your concentration so the math is easy. Decide your target mcg per 0.1 mL so dosing is repeatable, then back into a water volume that hits that number. Example calculation using a 10 mg vial. Add 4 mL water. That yields 10 mg divided by 4 mL equals 2.5 mg per mL which is 2500 mcg per mL, so 0.1 mL contains 250 mcg. If you need 500 mcg you draw 0.2 mL. If you need a different step size change only the water volume, not the powder.
• We will be creating a peptide calculator soon. (TO COME, working on this)
• Practical steps
• Use a 1 mL insulin syringe for precise water pulls, swap to a fresh needle for each pin, and vent pressure with a spare needle in the peptide vial if the stopper domes. Angle the needle so water rides the glass and let the vial sit a minute if microbubbles form. Swirl again if any flecks remain and wait until fully clear before refrigeration.
• Safety and sanity
• Keep a log with product, date mixed, concentration, and planned mcg per draw. Start conservative on dose, pyramid by small mcg steps, and verify units mg or mcg on the label before every calculation. When in doubt, ask the EVO family and do not mix or use products from unapproved sources, always use EVO approved suppliers! if you don't, you'll be sorry later.

Lets build on this thread everyone

@HarleyGuy @BeMe @toddthelineman @Noah Wixx @Allupfromhere @vanlife_gymbum

 

[toddthelineman]

Don’t forget to relieve the vacuum in the peptide vial before adding the water. Or it will pull the whole syringe of water in very rapidly and possibly damage the peptide

 

[BeMe]

Don’t forget to relieve the vacuum in the peptide vial before adding the water. Or it will pull the whole syringe of water in very rapidly and possibly damage the peptide

Good point..make sure to hold tight on the plunger either way cuz it still might pull and damage the peptides

 

[BeMe]

PepCalc is a handy app if you find the math a bit confusing, or in the case if my example below, you're using the last of your BAC water lol

 

[LevButlerov]

PepCalc is a handy app if you find the math a bit confusing, or in the case if my example below, you're using the last of your BAC water lol

View attachment 129819

We will have our own calculator, let's not share outside ones for now @BeMe
already have BMR up
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/pages/bodybuilding-calculators/

 

[BeMe]

We will have our own calculator, let's not share outside ones for now @BeMe
already have BMR up
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/pages/bodybuilding-calculators/

Ah ok. Where was that when I spend my 8 bucks on this app years ago lol.

The online ones I found were garbage and confusing at the time. You guys should copy the one I showed as a template to make it easy to understand for the new guys.

 

[BeMe]

One more tip for reconstitution.

When you're gently rolling the vial in your hands be sure to spend some time with the vial on its side and upside down.

I've noticed some peptide can get stuck to the side of the vial near the top sometimes so you want it make sure all of it gets reconstituted before injecting.

 

[LevButlerov]

@Andy C asked a peptide mixing question
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...00-ghk-cu-and-retatrutide.106947/post-1854993

Although generally speaking mixing peptides isn’t recommended, I have read of users drawing BPC & TB together and BPC & GHK together in the same syringe without any issues, which I’m thinking of doing. Obviously being careful when drawing out of the second vial, but would this be okay to minimise the amount of daily injections?

answer

Mixing BPC and TB in the same syringe is fine as long as you draw carefully and keep everything sterile.

 

[BeMe]

@Andy C asked a peptide mixing question
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...00-ghk-cu-and-retatrutide.106947/post-1854993

answer

Totally fine. I do it all the time and haven't grown any extra toes yet. If I remember right it has something to do with the molecular weight if the peptide right?

I know you can't mix GH with TB or BPC.

A good way to know for sure is see what kind of blends the peptide companies are selling. If they're mixing it so can you.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Don’t forget to relieve the vacuum in the peptide vial before adding the water. Or it will pull the whole syringe of water in very rapidly and possibly damage the peptide

Good point..make sure to hold tight on the plunger either way cuz it still might pull and damage the peptides

One more tip for reconstitution.

When you're gently rolling the vial in your hands be sure to spend some time with the vial on its side and upside down.

I've noticed some peptide can get stuck to the side of the vial near the top sometimes so you want it make sure all of it gets reconstituted before injecting.

All great key points for an already awesome original post! Well done @HarleyGuy and @LevButlerov getting this thread going. Threads like this are more then valuable for not only existing members but newbies that might be a little nervous to ask at the start.
Building Evo up even better

 

[HarleyGuy]

Don’t forget to relieve the vacuum in the peptide vial before adding the water. Or it will pull the whole syringe of water in very rapidly and possibly damage the peptide

Good point..make sure to hold tight on the plunger either way cuz it still might pull and damage the peptides

What I do is use an insulin syringe for the first 1ml of bac water and let it slide down. If it's actually pressurized (some aren't) it can only pull that in at a pace that doesn't damage the peptide due to the miniscule amount of air pressure pulling the syringe plunge down. If you're putting in another 1ml try it again until the syringe stops, then gently finish the 2ml's. Unless the thing is pressurized like a neutron bomb it's not gonna pull on an insulin syringe hard enough to have it swoop down too fast.

One more tip for reconstitution.

When you're gently rolling the vial in your hands be sure to spend some time with the vial on its side and upside down.

I've noticed some peptide can get stuck to the side of the vial near the top sometimes so you want it make sure all of it gets reconstituted before injecting.

I notice this too. Some always 'puffs' up to the top when the bac water first hits the puck so once the puck is nice and clear from rolling then invert and get the rest from the top and the sides.
Then, if you're wealthy and it's a 10iu vial of HGH just inject one nightly during a blast and call me in the morning. Doctors orders.

 

[HarleyGuy]

All great key points for an already awesome original post! Well done @HarleyGuy and @LevButlerov getting this thread going. Threads like this are more then valuable for not only existing members but newbies that might be a little nervous to ask at the start.
Building Evo up even better

Agreed this is a super important thread. The EVO calculator will be crucial and these tips will prevent someone from putting 2ml into a super vacuumed 2mg vial of peptide and wondering why that 1ml disappeared so fast that there's white powder on his face and the vial spit at him. Then come on here and ask if bubbles at the top are normal and won't go away no matter how much you 'swirl' it to settle those bastards.

(And yes that was me back in the day - admit it you've all done it!)

 

[Allupfromhere]

What I do is use an insulin syringe for the first 1ml of bac water and let it slide down. If it's actually pressurized (some aren't) it can only pull that in at a pace that doesn't damage the peptide due to the miniscule amount of air pressure pulling the syringe plunge down. If you're putting in another 1ml try it again until the syringe stops, then gently finish the 2ml's. Unless the thing is pressurized like a neutron bomb it's not gonna pull on an insulin syringe hard enough to have it swoop down too fast.

I notice this too. Some always 'puffs' up to the top when the bac water first hits the puck so once the puck is nice and clear from rolling then invert and get the rest from the top and the sides.
Then, if you're wealthy and it's a 10iu vial of HGH just inject one nightly during a blast and call me in the morning. Doctors orders.

I find you can angle the slin pin so when it inserts its aiming for the side of the vial, can see where it is in through the gap of the rubber stop. Then if the vacuum is strong its not shooting straight for the puck

 

[LevButlerov]

Totally fine. I do it all the time and haven't grown any extra toes yet. If I remember right it has something to do with the molecular weight if the peptide right?

I know you can't mix GH with TB or BPC.

A good way to know for sure is see what kind of blends the peptide companies are selling. If they're mixing it so can you.

You can’t mix HGH with TB500 or BPC157 in the same syringe because of peptide stability and pH differences. GH needs a specific pH and reconstitution medium to stay active, while TB and BPC tolerate a wider range but can degrade GH if combined.

You can inject them in the same time, just not in the same syringe.
Keep GH separate subq, and TB or BPC can go IM or subq right after with no issue.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I find you can angle the slin pin so when it inserts its aiming for the side of the vial, can see where it is in through the gap of the rubber stop. Then if the vacuum is strong its not shooting straight for the puck

Exactly yes! This is exactly what to do and you can 100% go in at an angle and let the pressure pull the plunger down slow.

 

[HarleyGuy]

You can’t mix HGH with TB500 or BPC157 in the same syringe because of peptide stability and pH differences. GH needs a specific pH and reconstitution medium to stay active, while TB and BPC tolerate a wider range but can degrade GH if combined.

You can inject them in the same time, just not in the same syringe.
Keep GH separate subq, and TB or BPC can go IM or subq right after with no issue.

This is also excellent knowledge to be on this thread. I never ever mix peptides because their structure is too delicate to be happy dancing together but I've never heard it explained that well. Good read Lev.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Help for reconstituting and dosing using insulin syringes that are not 100iu (1ml) syringes:

This came from a DM in which I'm helping a member who's confused with the math of reconstitution of a 10mg vial of Reta wanting to pin 1mg a week. Then, just to make it more confusing he only has 30iu insulin syringes. He has to put 1ml (100iu) into the vial and dose 1mg/week.

Here's my reply to him. This might help others in the same boat:



"So I checked your log and I see your vial is 10mg and you have 30iu insulin syringes. You have 10mg of reta and want to pin 1mg/week for 10 weeks using 30iu insulin syringes. No problem:

So yes

• Draw to bac water 1ml (1ml=100iu)
• Insert 1ml super slow into the Reta (for you this would be using a 30iu pin 3 times and one last 10iu top up to make 1ml=100iu)
• There's now 100iu in Reta vial or, said different, there's 10mg in there in 100iu of bac water which could fill an insulin syringe up to the 100 number on it (or for you, you could fill three to 30 and one to 10)
• So every 10iu is 1mg of Reta regardless of the insulin syringe your using.
• So 10iu (1mg) multiplied by 10 is 100 iu (10mg) meaning you have 10 weeks in the vial of 1mg dose

Tips in your case:

• You can prepare 10 pins each with 10iu in them and have 10 weeks of 1mg sitting waiting to be pinned
• You can prepare 4 pins three of which have 30iu=3mg (three full ones in your case) in them and one that has 10iu=1mg in it and dose 1mg each week from them (on the pins that have 30iu you're only pushing in 10iu=1mg each week until that pin is done)
• You can just prepare a pin each week with 10iu and pin your 1mg once a week

One method uses less pins and is more convenient week over week as it's ready to go and one method uses more pins but you get a nice new sharp pin each week. What I do is load a peptide into the syringe up to 100iu and keep the syringe refrigerated and use as necessary depending on the peptide and dose/push accordingly. I find they don't lose sharpness for a while and yours will be fine using 3 weeks in a row for example."

 

[LevButlerov]

Help for reconstituting and dosing using insulin syringes that are not 100iu (1ml) syringes:

This came from a DM in which I'm helping a member who's confused with the math of reconstitution of a 10mg vial of Reta wanting to pin 1mg a week. Then, just to make it more confusing he only has 30iu insulin syringes. He has to put 1ml (100iu) into the vial and dose 1mg/week.

Here's my reply to him. This might help others in the same boat:



"So I checked your log and I see your vial is 10mg and you have 30iu insulin syringes. You have 10mg of reta and want to pin 1mg/week for 10 weeks using 30iu insulin syringes. No problem:

So yes

• Draw to bac water 1ml (1ml=100iu)
• Insert 1ml super slow into the Reta (for you this would be using a 30iu pin 3 times and one last 10iu top up to make 1ml=100iu)
• There's now 100iu in Reta vial or, said different, there's 10mg in there in 100iu of bac water which could fill an insulin syringe up to the 100 number on it (or for you, you could fill three to 30 and one to 10)
• So every 10iu is 1mg of Reta regardless of the insulin syringe your using.
• So 10iu (1mg) multiplied by 10 is 100 iu (10mg) meaning you have 10 weeks in the vial of 1mg dose

Tips in your case:

• You can prepare 10 pins each with 10iu in them and have 10 weeks of 1mg sitting waiting to be pinned
• You can prepare 4 pins three of which have 30iu=3mg (three full ones in your case) in them and one that has 10iu=1mg in it and dose 1mg each week from them (on the pins that have 30iu you're only pushing in 10iu=1mg each week until that pin is done)
• You can just prepare a pin each week with 10iu and pin your 1mg once a week

One method uses less pins and is more convenient week over week as it's ready to go and one method uses more pins but you get a nice new sharp pin each week. What I do is load a peptide into the syringe up to 100iu and keep the syringe refrigerated and use as necessary depending on the peptide and dose/push accordingly. I find they don't lose sharpness for a while and yours will be fine using 3 weeks in a row for example."

Perfect info @HarleyGuy
if you can throw up some pics

 

[HarleyGuy]

Perfect info @HarleyGuy
if you can throw up some pics

Of course I can good sir! Here is my semaglutide syringe that had been loaded to 100iu totaling 25mg of sema with 10iu=2.5mg. It's old and I had gotten it off of Chase Irons site. He sells them in 10mg so it was a bit of math once I was half done the first of three vials but I got it loaded accordingly. Now a 10iu push is 2.5mg sema. I use 'hockey tape' to then write on the syringe the dose and what the peptide is.

You probably can't read the sharpie but it says "SEMA 10 = 2.5"

It's used PRN as the doctors say, or 'as needed' if my night binging starts. For example I ate too many quest chips the other night so the next morning boom (I think yesterday morning I'm in a fog now LOL) I pinned some sema and it keeps me at bay for a while. I can go by 'feel' now and I don't need it as frequently as weekly. As you might be able to see I've got about 7.5mg left or three pushes of 10iu=2.5mg and then it's reorder time and it will be Reta next time.

I have tried Reta and I do find that Sema crushes appetite better but I love the secondary and tertiary benefits that Reta gives over Sema.

I have no pics of 0.3ml syringes that I mentioned but all the same logic applies. I've always used the 1ml (100iu) pins.

 

[LevButlerov]

Of course I can good sir! Here is my semaglutide syringe that had been loaded to 100iu totaling 25mg of sema with 10iu=2.5mg. It's old and I had gotten it off of Chase Irons site. He sells them in 10mg so it was a bit of math once I was half done the first of three vials but I got it loaded accordingly. Now a 10iu push is 2.5mg sema. I use 'hockey tape' to then write on the syringe the dose and what the peptide is.

You probably can't read the sharpie but it says "SEMA 10 = 2.5"

It's used PRN as the doctors say, or 'as needed' if my night binging starts. For example I ate too many quest chips the other night so the next morning boom (I think yesterday morning I'm in a fog now LOL) I pinned some sema and it keeps me at bay for a while. I can go by 'feel' now and I don't need it as frequently as weekly. As you might be able to see I've got about 7.5mg left or three pushes of 10iu=2.5mg and then it's reorder time and it will be Reta next time.

I have tried Reta and I do find that Sema crushes appetite better but I love the secondary and tertiary benefits that Reta gives over Sema.

I have no pics of 0.3ml syringes that I mentioned but all the same logic applies. I've always used the 1ml (100iu) pins.

Good pic thank you @HarleyGuy visuals help EVO brothers to see whats up.

Feel is a good way with peptides or anything else, but you do have a strict schedule so for you "feel" is broad. Very few guys are on your level of control and hardcore (yes I said hardcore !) you truly have EVO family respect for what you do.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Good pic thank you @HarleyGuy visuals help EVO brothers to see whats up.

Feel is a good way with peptides or anything else, but you do have a strict schedule so for you "feel" is broad. Very few guys are on your level of control and hardcore (yes I said hardcore !) you truly have EVO family respect for what you do.

Haha hardcore, I can live with that! Thanks for the kind words brother. And yes "feel" for me early on was almost every 7-10 days and now it's only about every two weeks or 14 days or even longer, so still a rough schedule for it, not unlike my night binging schedule that ramps up once it's worn off or my will power starts caving. It's my night meds, they are notorious for making the user ravenous so if I don't go to sleep after I take them I'm playing with fire (or playing with the fork is more like it).

 

[LevButlerov]

Haha hardcore, I can live with that! Thanks for the kind words brother. And yes "feel" for me early on was almost every 7-10 days and now it's only about every two weeks or 14 days or even longer, so still a rough schedule for it, not unlike my night binging schedule that ramps up once it's worn off or my will power starts caving. It's my night meds, they are notorious for making the user ravenous so if I don't go to sleep after I take them I'm playing with fire (or playing with the fork is more like it).

You have that hardcore inside you that fire, very few have it. That's why you are amazing in the EVO family!
I think you're one of the 10%, my normal formal is 80/20 but out of the 20 only 50% really have the true drive, and you have it. @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

You have that hardcore inside you that fire, very few have it. That's why you are amazing in the EVO family!
I think you're one of the 10%, my normal formal is 80/20 but out of the 20 only 50% really have the true drive, and you have it. @HarleyGuy

If you were a chick I'd fuck you Lev!

 

[LevButlerov]

If you were a chick I'd fuck you Lev!

Gay radar activated

 

[HarleyGuy]

Gay radar activated

Haha "Gaydar".

 

[LevButlerov]

Haha "Gaydar".

 

[Freki]

Seen this in here Apologies for reposting, for those who haven't seen this chart before

 

[HarleyGuy]

Seen this in here Apologies for reposting, for those who haven't seen this chart before
View attachment 132087

If this can be confirmed as accurate and is sound then I think this chart should be a sticky. It seems to make sense since BPC and TB are commonly sold compounded together.

The first thing I looked at was HGH and and the TB/BPC and just going by those someone has put some thought into this chart.
@LevButlerov

Having said that I'm still never mixing peptides, call it a pinning addiction maybe.

 

[LevButlerov]

Seen this in here Apologies for reposting, for those who haven't seen this chart before
View attachment 132087

I've seen this before but trying to find a high quality image.

If this can be confirmed as accurate and is sound then I think this chart should be a sticky. It seems to make sense since BPC and TB are commonly sold compounded together.

The first thing I looked at was HGH and and the TB/BPC and just going by those someone has put some thought into this chart.
@LevButlerov

Having said that I'm still never mixing peptides, call it a pinning addiction maybe.

We need to get a chart like this but high quality for a mega thread @HarleyGuy i cant find one.
@vanlife_gymbum have you been able to locate a chart like this high quality?

 

[Freki]

this can be confirmed as accurate and is sound then I think this chart should be a sticky

No ones researching these things so "Anecdotal" is going to be as good as we ever get.

Having said that I'm still never mixing peptides, call it a pinning addiction maybe.

Yeah I use a different pen for each Peptide , its easy and quick so wont be mixing any together

 

[HarleyGuy]

I've seen this before but trying to find a high quality image.

We need to get a chart like this but high quality for a mega thread @HarleyGuy i cant find one.
@vanlife_gymbum have you been able to locate a chart like this high quality?

I did some digging and it came from a website called glp1forum.com and the original poster of it says he "saw this somewhere" but I've scrubbed the net and everything links back to this one dude posting it. It seems reasonably accurate but to me "anecdotal" with peptides is a hard no. I can't seem to find a better quality of that chart nor anything else like it. @LevButlerov. I think it might be too early to jump the gun on committing to one of these but for sure some of the chart must be true since some are sold together at clinics, etc. Just can't trust the other data.

Here is some of the feedback to the OP

"Yeah, this chart is nonsense."

"This is a cool idea but some very questionable data"

"From a cursory search on the subject, it seems that cross reactivity, solubility, and pH are some other concerns when it comes to compatibility. Some combinations may not necessarily cause visual issues like gelling or cloudiness, but they may reduce efficacy of one or all peptides in the mix, or even render them inert depending on above factors."

 

[LevButlerov]

I did some digging and it came from a website called glp1forum.com and the original poster of it says he "saw this somewhere" but I've scrubbed the net and everything links back to this one dude posting it. It seems reasonably accurate but to me "anecdotal" with peptides is a hard no. I can't seem to find a better quality of that chart nor anything else like it. @LevButlerov. I think it might be too early to jump the gun on committing to one of these but for sure some of the chart must be true since some are sold together at clinics, etc. Just can't trust the other data.

Here is some of the feedback to the OP

"Yeah, this chart is nonsense."

"This is a cool idea but some very questionable data"

"From a cursory search on the subject, it seems that cross reactivity, solubility, and pH are some other concerns when it comes to compatibility. Some combinations may not necessarily cause visual issues like gelling or cloudiness, but they may reduce efficacy of one or all peptides in the mix, or even render them inert depending on above factors."

We should redo the chart, going on my todo list of 1000 things lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

We should redo the chart, going on my todo list of 1000 things lol

If we could get an scientifically accurate chart it would be incalculable how useful that could be for the bros who are pinning multiple peptides daily. That would be a huge undertaking researching each permutation of peptide vs. peptide. I'll put it in my list too but no promises, yikes!

 

[LevButlerov]

If we could get an scientifically accurate chart it would be incalculable how useful that could be for the bros who are pinning multiple peptides daily. That would be a huge undertaking researching each permutation of peptide vs. peptide. I'll put it in my list too but no promises, yikes!

we'll get to it after our calculator moment lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

we'll get to it after our calculator moment lol

Deal! I'm with ya.

 

[LevButlerov]

Deal! I'm with ya.

Working on the ratios for weeks now lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

Working on the ratios for weeks now lol

That's taking it next level - like GHK/TB/GPC should be 5:1:1 for example and would be a 'green' category meaning can be mixed.

 

[LevButlerov]

That's taking it next level - like GHK/TB/GPC should be 5:1:1 for example and would be a 'green' category meaning can be mixed.

I was working more on general for mixing easy before going to specific peptides.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I was working more on general for mixing easy before going to specific peptides.

Ok thank God, because if I was gonna liaise with you on that that woulda been a month long project LOL

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok thank God, because if I was gonna liaise with you on that that woulda been a month long project LOL

Lets work on it next week

 

[HarleyGuy]

Lets work on it next week

Deal. We'll have to take it one peptide at a time... omg this is gonna be huge we should go on shark tank.

 

[LevButlerov]

Deal. We'll have to take it one peptide at a time... omg this is gonna be huge we should go on shark tank.

In my que

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hot tip: If you try and draw anything from the vial and it simply won't come out then it's still pressurized against you drawing so stick an insulin syringe in the vial, pull the plunger completely out of the syringe, the remove the syringe and discard the plunger and syringe. Your vial is now equalized and you can draw easily without it fighting you. @s.gentz @LevButlerov

don't depressurize the vial before you put the bac water in and while you put the bac water in (with an insulin pin) put it in almost exaggeratingly slow by holding the plunger from wanting to pull the bac water in too fast. Next, slowly swirl (in a round and round, not up and down) as it goes in. Hold it at a 45 degree angle and just turn the vial as it goes in. If you use 2ml of bac water you'll have to use two full insulin pins that are 100iu (1ml).

This came from another thread... more about the fragility of mixing peptides.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I just added this advice to another persons log:

• When using the vacuum seal with a slin pin to load your peptide with BAC water keep in mind it's still pressurized and you won't be able to easily draw the peptide, it will fight you on it
• To remedy this and only once the peptide is clear and reconstituted, take a slin pin, pull the plunger out entirely, and insert the slin syringe into the vial (count to 2 seconds and pull out). This equalizes the pressure in the vial to your ambient pressure.
• Now you will be able to draw any amount easily without it fighting you and dripping in slowly.

 

[Made_Man]

I've seen this before but trying to find a high quality image.

We need to get a chart like this but high quality for a mega thread @HarleyGuy i cant find one.
@vanlife_gymbum have you been able to locate a chart like this high quality?

Not sure of you are still looking for a HQ chart or not however i have one. Its in PDF so i cant attach here.

Let me know if you would like me to get it to you another way

 

[HarleyGuy]

Not sure of you are still looking for a HQ chart or not however i have one. Its in PDF so i cant attach here.

Let me know if you would like me to get it to you another way

Is it that weird looking one with the red plus sign in the middle of it? It has green squares and some that are just white for ‘unknown’ with others being ‘anecdotal’?

That one’s going around but I don’t trust it as there’s no source of origin I tried hard to find where it came from and it’s not from any reputable source except some dodgy forums.

But 100% yes I’d love to get my hands on that.

The only experiment I was able to post was a mixing HGH with KLOW experiment (I had to get my own bloods for it) and you can mix those two (or 5 really) so it seems.

You can check it out in the bloodwork mega thread here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-a-bloodwork-peptide-blending-result.108153/

 

[willipede]

Just a quick note, not sure if its been mentioned.

When reconstituting peptides remember most peptide vials have a 3mL capacity.

Remember this when purchasing peptides so that you pick an appropriately dosed vial that works for you.

 

[Made_Man]

Is it that weird looking one with the red plus sign in the middle of it? It has green squares and some that are just white for ‘unknown’ with others being ‘anecdotal’?

That one’s going around but I don’t trust it as there’s no source of origin I tried hard to find where it came from and it’s not from any reputable source except some dodgy forums.

But 100% yes I’d love to get my hands on that.

The only experiment I was able to post was a mixing HGH with KLOW experiment (I had to get my own bloods for it) and you can mix those two (or 5 really) so it seems.

You can check it out in the bloodwork mega thread here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-a-bloodwork-peptide-blending-result.108153/

Its from Extension Health

Here is a image of it. I have the full res PDF of it, its 2 pages

 

[LevButlerov]

Not sure of you are still looking for a HQ chart or not however i have one. Its in PDF so i cant attach here.

Let me know if you would like me to get it to you another way

PDFs dont work here, can you screen shot and post pics please? @Made_Man

 

[Made_Man]

PDFs dont work here, can you screen shot and post pics please? @Made_Man

Its from Extension Health

Here is a image of it. I have the full res PDF of it, its 2 pages

See above images attached. Crap quality as its only a screenshot

Ill upload to cloud later when i have time and share link for everyone

 

[LevButlerov]

Its from Extension Health

Here is a image of it. I have the full res PDF of it, its 2 pages

This is a good guide and not bad a bit hard to see but good addition to thread! thank you it will help EVO brothers @Made_Man

 

[HarleyGuy]

Its from Extension Health

Here is a image of it. I have the full res PDF of it, its 2 pages

This is a new guide I hadn't seen before. Thanks for this @Made_Man

Hopefully we can get a guide that seems legit and make a peptide mixing thread to be able to refer members to? @LevButlerov

One thing I know is that I mix MOTS-C with KLOW for HarleyGirl the past couple weeks and she still feels the MOTS-C doing it's thing and that guide seems to say it's okay to mix with BPC/TB so at first glance it seems to have potential in being accurate.

I'm also glad the guide is super comprehensive with all the peptides out there; leads me to believe these are all anecdotally tried mixtures that have shown effective when combined.

Another bonus is they indicate no mixing with GLP-1's which is the first thing I looked for.

 

[willipede]

Another bonus is they indicate no mixing with GLP-1's which is the first thing I looked for.

I know mots-c doesn't mix with my gh, mt2, reta and can't remember what else

Most of the other peptides ive had no issue with mainly the mots-c when mixing into same syringe so I always do that pin solo now

 

[HarleyGuy]

I know mots-c doesn't mix with my gh, mt2, reta and can't remember what else

Most of the other peptides ive had no issue with mainly the mots-c when mixing into same syringe so I always do that pin solo now

The two things I don't fuck with are GLP1's and GH. I don't mix either of those with anything because I don't even want to chance it based on the cost.

What is a shame is that there is no data or anything online about this topic. There's lots about ratios of making the pucks in UGL's to have mixtures to reconstitute (no one gives away the formula though LOL) but nothing about once they're reconstituted can we then combine them (and which ones) in the same slin pin.

 

[willipede]

What is a shame is that there is no data or anything online about this topic. There's lots about ratios of making the pucks in UGL's to have mixtures to reconstitute (no one gives away the formula though LOL) but nothing about once they're reconstituted can we then combine them (and which ones) in the same slin pin.

Yeah i was adding the gh to my bpc,tb stack for ages just trying to reduce how many daily pins going on. Now that im back blasting its easier to bang 5iu gh on its own

I always wondered if it was specific to certain manufacturers and processes whether 2 peptides were incomparable. You always hear about preservatives etc.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yeah i was adding the gh to my bpc,tb stack for ages just trying to reduce how many daily pins going on. Now that im back blasting its easier to bang 5iu gh on its own

I always wondered if it was specific to certain manufacturers and processes whether 2 peptides were incomparable. You always hear about preservatives etc.

If you wanted to stop the GH for a while then after a long enough stretch you can pin a high dose GH IM with your bpc/tb stack and then get your IGF1 checked about 3 hours later. This will help see corroborate GH can be combined with bpc/tb. Just food for thought. If you ever do that be sure and post it here for us. I'm going to do it with another peptide one of these days.

I did GH with KLOW and got IGF1 tested and it worked out here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-a-bloodwork-peptide-blending-result.108153/

 

[willipede]

If you wanted to stop the GH for a while then after a long enough stretch you can pin a high dose GH IM with your bpc/tb stack and then get your IGF1 checked about 3 hours later. This will help see corroborate GH can be combined with bpc/tb. Just food for thought. If you ever do that be sure and post it here for us. I'm going to do it with another peptide one of these days.

I did GH with KLOW and got IGF1 tested and it worked out here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-a-bloodwork-peptide-blending-result.108153/

Interesting, It could be useful info for sure

Although I thought there was a delay in gh to igf1 conversion and you needed to be on that gh dose for weeks to get an accurate reading

I know that sides aren't a good indicator of quality but was still definitely getting the fluid increase from the gh as well as exasperating my carpal tunnel syndrome when I was using gh mixed with peptides

 

[HarleyGuy]

Interesting, It could be useful info for sure

Although I thought there was a delay in gh to igf1 conversion and you needed to be on that gh dose for weeks to get an accurate reading

I know that sides aren't a good indicator of quality but was still definitely getting the fluid increase from the gh as well as exasperating my carpal tunnel syndrome when I was using gh mixed with peptides

It's a delayed response for this type of experiment if SubQ. If you high dose the shit out of it IM then in 30mins to 1.5hours your IGF1 should be out of high range and you'll know the GH didn't crash with whatever peptide you combined it with. If you high dosed it SubQ you'd wanna wait 12-24 hours to see if your IGF1 spiked and the peptide combination didn't crash the GH.

I wouldn't go by sides alone I'd use IGF1 bloodwork.

With continuous use you'll reach a plateau or steady state doing subQ within about 5 days.

This is just what's in my head at the moment about SubQ vs. IM GH. IM is usually for experimenting with other peptides for me and SubQ is daily and to keep at a steady state of elevated IGF1. We can have @LevButlerov fact check this though.

 

[willipede]

@HarleyGuy oh im with ya for sure, I just think for this purpose wouldn't serum GH be a better test

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy oh im with ya for sure, I just think for this purpose wouldn't serum GH be a better test

As long as you detoxed from exogenous GH for a good stretch and then hit it bolus IM and timed the test correctly you could do either I suppose. Checking IGF1 also gives you the added benefit of knowing if your e2 is doing it's job well enough to help GH convert to IGF1 as well (in the absence of an e2 test).

 

[HarleyGuy]

@SmallHaus asked for help mixing peptides in his log here https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pre-cycle-training-gyno-log.111052/#post-2086331

I need some help about mixxing and pinning the reta. I've seen conflicting accounts on various ways to mix it, and different ways to pin as well.

You can use a standard insulin pin with 29g and 5'8" into any subQ area.
You can check out subQ pinning instructions here https://trtinjections.com/

How to draw and mix your peptides are contained in this research thread.