advice needed for first cycle

[The_Eminent_Brah]

currently doing my first test cycle, started with Test E doing subq currently on my 5th week but had to stop because I was getting horrendous allergic reactions to the carrier oil, was getting large red itchy lumps where I injected that would last for 5 - 6 days after , extreme fatigue and it even started affecting my breathing.

I'm currently waiting to try and get some gso Test E to see if that's any better and wont get an allergic reaction to it but can't get any for at least 3 - 4 weeks because no where local has any in stock.

I was running HCG along with my cycle and am trying to get a hold of some Anavar or something so that I can continue my cycle, but my question is with my body not absorbing the Test E properly and the allergic reaction idk where to count my cycle and if I should stop early or run longer, does anyone have any advice

 

[LevButlerov]

currently doing my first test cycle, started with Test E doing subq currently on my 5th week but had to stop because I was getting horrendous allergic reactions to the carrier oil, was getting large red itchy lumps where I injected that would last for 5 - 6 days after , extreme fatigue and it even started affecting my breathing.

I'm currently waiting to try and get some gso Test E to see if that's any better and wont get an allergic reaction to it but can't get any for at least 3 - 4 weeks because no where local has any in stock.

I was running HCG along with my cycle and am trying to get a hold of some Anavar or something so that I can continue my cycle, but my question is with my body not absorbing the Test E properly and the allergic reaction idk where to count my cycle and if I should stop early or run longer, does anyone have any advice

welcome to the EVO family @The_Eminent_Brah good to see you here and props for starting your first cycle with proper awareness. That reaction sounds like a carrier issue for sure, and waiting for GSO is the right move, but really hard to say as we dont know much about you.

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[rizzlekdizzle]

Why Subq?
You tend to get more sore lumps when going subQ
I would just inject twice a week IM (or three times if you want). The Enanthate ester takes a few weeks to saturate anyway
I mean if you are allergic to the oil bin it and get another supplier though.
Var would run 30-50mg a day in the last 6 weeks.

 

[The_Eminent_Brah]

Why Subq?
You tend to get more sore lumps when going subQ
I would just inject twice a week IM (or three times if you want). The Enanthate ester takes a few weeks to saturate anyway
I mean if you are allergic to the oil bin it and get another supplier though.
Var would run 30-50mg a day in the last 6 weeks.

to answer your question to why subq there is a few reasons actually, first off less scarring as well as for slower absorption and less crashes , less estrogen , also didnt wanna hit a nerve or anything not knowing what I'm doing, and yeah i dissappeared the Test wasn't worth the health issues

 

[Mobster]

to answer your question to why subq there is a few reasons actually, first off less scarring as well as for slower absorption and less crashes , less estrogen , also didnt wanna hit a nerve or anything not knowing what I'm doing, and yeah i dissappeared the Test wasn't worth the health issues

What scarring? I have none

You'll still gonna get E2 issues if they're gonna occur. Make zero difference as to how you pin and E2

 

[The_Eminent_Brah]

What scarring? I have none

You'll still gonna get E2 issues if they're gonna occur. Make zero difference as to how you pin and E2

right it really makes no difference just personal choice as well, but also doesn't matter how I inject if I'm allergic to the oil I'm allergic to the oil makes no difference

 

[Mobster]

right it really makes no difference just personal choice as well, but also doesn't matter how I inject if I'm allergic to the oil I'm allergic to the oil makes no difference

That's, of course been addressed by multiple posts. Did you really need me to say the same as everyone else? And I didn't quote that post did I?

But if it was ok (easy to fix right?) and you then made the other 'mistakes' in what you're doing you're still missing out aren't you?

For example
1) Thinking IM means scarring. Done right it's not an issue. See point 3 for how to check.
2) The idea of sub-q being beneficial for E2 issues. That's completely wrong
3) There are a ton of YT videos, as well as actual articles, on pinning (so as to avoid nerves). Indeed a search here will show it's maybe an issue 1-2x a year here out of 1000's of users
4) That idea of preventing 'crashing'. That's mostly ester and dose related
5) ref point 1 again - even with sub-Q OR IM you MUST rotate sites and that will lessen the chance of it happening

 

[The_Eminent_Brah]

wasn't tryna come off sounding like an ass or anything, I have been rotating sites, sterilising everything, double checking everything making sure I'm doing it right , and once again personal choice for subq plays a part wasn't tryna be rude about that or anything but also drawing attenion back to the main post because really could use advice / help if anyone knows if i should cut cycle short extend it or what to do to bridge until i can get some GSO test or if somewhere in australia might have some in stock or something

 

[Mobster]

wasn't tryna come off sounding like an ass or anything, I have been rotating sites, sterilising everything, double checking everything making sure I'm doing it right , and once again personal choice for subq plays a part wasn't tryna be rude about that or anything but also drawing attenion back to the main post because really could use advice / help if anyone knows if i should cut cycle short extend it or what to do to bridge until i can get some GSO test or if somewhere in australia might have some in stock or something

Thanks for the reply. Don't sweat it. There was a great thread on the colour of oils just this week. One of the Oz sources did a good write up on that and I also talked about oils used and how some, as with you, CAN (in a very few users) cause problems. But as others had covered that I didn't feel you needed that going over again.

By way of example rep for PSL Vision posted a thread on a study. I noted that (and lord knows why they did this) the study used an oil under a different name which, when I looked it up, was fkin PEANUT oil. WHY?? And why when arguably that might actually kill the odd user? Just laziness or being a bitch over the price right?

Contact approved Oz sources and ask what oils they're using. It's less of an issue than it was but the very way the Oz market used to be (difficultly getting raws in etc) meant issues WAS a problem. Those that have stuck around and built a rep (like UGL Oz above) will be GTG unless you have very specific allergy issues

 

[The_Eminent_Brah]

Thanks for the reply. Don't sweat it. There was a great thread on the colour of oils just this week. One of the Oz sources did a good write up on that and I also talked about oils used and how some, as with you, CAN (in a very few users) cause problems. But as others had covered that I didn't feel you needed that going over again.

By way of example rep for PSL Vision posted a thread on a study. I noted that (and lord knows why they did this) the study used an oil under a different name which, when I looked it up, was fkin PEANUT oil. WHY?? And why when arguably that might actually kill the odd user? Just laziness or being a bitch over the price right?

Contact approved Oz sources and ask what oils they're using. It's less of an issue than it was but the very way the Oz market used to be (difficultly getting raws in etc) meant issues WAS a problem. Those that have stuck around and built a rep (like UGL Oz above) will be GTG unless you have very specific allergy issues

thanks greatly for the advice and the time taken to reply, out of curiosity do you have any advice on the cycle itself if I should cut it short and count the first 5 weeks even tho I had terrible allergic reactions to the carrier oil or if I should extend it out or know where I might be able to get information.

 

[LevButlerov]

wasn't tryna come off sounding like an ass or anything, I have been rotating sites, sterilising everything, double checking everything making sure I'm doing it right , and once again personal choice for subq plays a part wasn't tryna be rude about that or anything but also drawing attenion back to the main post because really could use advice / help if anyone knows if i should cut cycle short extend it or what to do to bridge until i can get some GSO test or if somewhere in australia might have some in stock or something

I saw your new thread in mod que going to approve soon