AI or SERM???

[Arnoldstrong]

Hey guys on a Test and TBOL cycle....

Do i need both arimidex and tamoxifen or will it be overkill for oestrogen?

What dose to run??

 

[gearhead]

bro too much with arimidex and nolva...just use arimidex it's a better anti E...

 

[MikeSnow]

I always prefer aromasin but if all you have is adex you should start with .5mg E3D and increase as necessary if you don't know how you respond to it. Most only use nolva on cycle on gyno flares but run the AI from day 1..

 

[31yogymrat]

Aromasin fan all the way, I wouldn't worry much unless your estrogen sensitive. Since only the test is going to convert to estrogen, Tbol does not convert. Armidex is good enough just make sure to taper off of it to avoid a spike in your estrogen levels.

 

[stevesmi]

run an AI from day 1 of that.. way too much aromatization

 

[dylangemelli]

if you have to pick between the two, then just go with adex but aromasin is a far better option bro... if you use adex run it .5 mg eod but aromasin at 12.5 mg eod... aromasin is superior in every way though...

 

[hurricane]

adex. get nolva out of the cycle,its for pct.

 

[TBJ]

Arimidex is just fine. It is my go to AI. What are you going to be running?

A good start, say for. 500mg test e cycle would be .25 ml EOD. Of course you'll ultimately need blood work... Id start there.

 

[Arnoldstrong]

Arimidex is just fine. It is my go to AI. What are you going to be running?

A good start, say for. 500mg test e cycle would be .25 ml EOD. Of course you'll ultimately need blood work... Id start there.

Running 60mg TBOL for 6 weeks
Test Prop 50mg EOD for 10 weeks

SARMS :GW, LGD

 

[Arnoldstrong]

if you have to pick between the two, then just go with adex but aromasin is a far better option bro... if you use adex run it .5 mg eod but aromasin at 12.5 mg eod... aromasin is superior in every way though...

Thanks dylan. I will pick aromasin and run that 12.5mg eod. On 200mg prop a week will that be ok?

 

[Arnoldstrong]

Thanks everyone....price wise and availabilty i can get adex cheaper.

I will look into aromasin as its superior

 

[JackSteel]

bro too much with arimidex and nolva...just use arimidex it's a better anti E...

Allow me to expand on this... it's the only Anti-estrogen of the two really, at least if we're talking about on cycle ancillaries. The more i see this the more i know most people dont read nearly enough about what they're taking and why when they do steroids. You should be able to teach me a course in steroids before you puncture your skin with a needle or pop a liver toxic pill that will jack your hormones up. SOrry but this is a pet peeve of mine. YEs, As Gearhead suggested, use arimidex instead.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks everyone....price wise and availabilty i can get adex cheaper.

I will look into aromasin as its superior

understandable but on the same hand, what does that truly have to do with anything when it comes to your body and safety? who cares if you can get it cheaper bro? if they were identical, then of course, it makes perfect sense, but they are not, in any way identical... that kind of comment won't get you far bro... i don't you think you meant it like that but understand it just doesnt sound good

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks dylan. I will pick aromasin and run that 12.5mg eod. On 200mg prop a week will that be ok?

yes, that will be a far better option for you...

 

[gymrat827]

dex or stane. nolva is a serm man..........only block breast tissue estrogen.

 

[wbs2]

Aromasin fan all the way, I wouldn't worry much unless your estrogen sensitive. Since only the test is going to convert to estrogen, Tbol does not convert. Armidex is good enough just make sure to taper off of it to avoid a spike in your estrogen levels.

^^^^^^what he said

 

[RickRock]

An AI on cycle is what you need. You don't need to use a SERM on cycle

 

[Shrine]

if you have to pick between the two, then just go with adex but aromasin is a far better option bro... if you use adex run it .5 mg eod but aromasin at 12.5 mg eod... aromasin is superior in every way though...

Im with Dylan on this.. Get you some Aromasin from AG Guys. The best AI you can get hands down

 

[Cjohnson547]

Im with Dylan on this.. Get you some Aromasin from AG Guys. The best AI you can get hands down

Agreed go with aromasin. I have used ag guys and it worked great. Currently using some homebrew aromasin from a member on the board that is working great as well.

 

[Arnoldstrong]

understandable but on the same hand, what does that truly have to do with anything when it comes to your body and safety? who cares if you can get it cheaper bro? if they were identical, then of course, it makes perfect sense, but they are not, in any way identical... that kind of comment won't get you far bro... i don't you think you meant it like that but understand it just doesnt sound good

Totally agree with you dylan...it came out wrong. Money cant buy health that's more important.
Thanks everyone for your advice. i have decided to use aromasin on cycle and save Nolva for the PCT

 

[meathead96]

I would use the adex from day 1 starting at .5mg EOD and increase only if needed. Some who are gyno prone also run 20mg of nolva a day on cycle to keep gyno from flaring but I would only do this if you were extremely gyno prone. Personally I have used that method in the past but since I know I am prone I just run no more than 150mg of test per week and use other compounds that don't aromatize for the bulk of my cycles.

 

[Arnoldstrong]

I would use the adex from day 1 starting at .5mg EOD and increase only if needed. Some who are gyno prone also run 20mg of nolva a day on cycle to keep gyno from flaring but I would only do this if you were extremely gyno prone. Personally I have used that method in the past but since I know I am prone I just run no more than 150mg of test per week and use other compounds that don't aromatize for the bulk of my cycles.

Hey meathead thanks for your reply. I think im gyno prone too....should i run 150mg of test per week with the TBOL.
Also im prone to hair loss

 

[meathead96]

Hey meathead thanks for your reply. I think im gyno prone too....should i run 150mg of test per week with the TBOL.
Also im prone to hair loss

Whats your cycle history and stats and goals?


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[Arnoldstrong]

Whats your cycle history and stats and goals?


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In past i did a deca and dbol cycle. I didn't use TEST silly of me and got shut down...thats was about 10 years ago, now i want cycle again...

Im 5'5 ....weighing 70kg..
Over the years I have gained some belly fat due to eating junk, working late and lazy.

I Wana add size and shed down fat get ripped for when summer comes...

 

[meathead96]

In past i did a deca and dbol cycle. I didn't use TEST silly of me and got shut down...thats was about 10 years ago, now i want cycle again...

Im 5'5 ....weighing 70kg..
Over the years I have gained some belly fat due to eating junk, working late and lazy.

I Wana add size and shed down fat get ripped for when summer comes...

With your stats and goals I would consider running a sarms triple stack before you think about cycling.

 

[Arnoldstrong]

With your stats and goals I would consider running a sarms triple stack before you think about cycling.

I've got GW, LGD and MK on shelf. Can these be triple stack??

Ok that's fine bro...
How about later if I want to use TEST and TBOL. Is 150mg ok with SARMs.

 

[meathead96]

I've got GW, LGD and MK on shelf. Can these be triple stack??

Ok that's fine bro...
How about later if I want to use TEST and TBOL. Is 150mg ok with SARMs.

Yeah make sure you get some hcgenerate and n2guard to run with it. A 12 week cycle would be best. Do that and get your diet and training in check and see where you are at then.


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