AI's

[CM810835]

Hello all,
Quick question. Kinda late to be asking now, but will help for my next cycle! Is it recommended or necessary to take an AI if I am having zero side effects? I have it on hand if needed and have just been waiting to see how my body reacts during my first cycle. All I ever got were slightly itchy/sensitive nipples in the beginning, but that subsided about 4 weeks in and I haven't noticed anything else since then. Thanks for any input!

Wk 1-12: 500mg Test E / week
Wk 1-6: 30-40mg Dbol / day
Wk 1-8: Proviron 50mg / day

 

[dylangemelli]

Hello all,
Quick question. Kinda late to be asking now, but will help for my next cycle! Is it recommended or necessary to take an AI if I am having zero side effects? I have it on hand if needed and have just been waiting to see how my body reacts during my first cycle. All I ever got were slightly itchy/sensitive nipples in the beginning, but that subsided about 4 weeks in and I haven't noticed anything else since then. Thanks for any input!

Wk 1-12: 500mg Test E / week
Wk 1-6: 30-40mg Dbol / day
Wk 1-8: Proviron 50mg / day

i would NEVER not be using an AI on this kind of cycle... you are running two compounds that convert to estrogen at a high rate, especially dbol... i really dont recommend using dbol longer than 4 weeks... i dont think what you are doing is wise man

 

[stevesmi]

yes because by the time sides arrive and you notice it is too late

 

[Mobster]

Yes more so with dbol

 

[92strauss]

Honestly, I would just get bloodwork man. Thats the only way of truly telling what YOU need. But, from what ya got written down, it seems you should have an AI forsure.
Idk if you were using proviron for the anti E properties or even knew it had them but with dbol, it's most likely not enough. Relying on Masterson or Proviron for estrogen control isn't smart unless you know by bloodwork that it's enough for you.
For me, I do not rely on AI's since I run Masteron with every cycle (prefer it over proviron), but I only know this because I've gotten bloodwork enough to see its works for ME, not because someone told me it works.

With DBol on the otherhand, I definitely need Aromasin and most likely so do you.

Moral of the story, get bloodwork and find out. If you don't know what exactly you're looking for, post your results on here and I promise one of these guys will help you out. They most likely won't be nice about it, but they'll point you in the right direction

 

[awm1981]

Hello all,
Quick question. Kinda late to be asking now, but will help for my next cycle! Is it recommended or necessary to take an AI if I am having zero side effects? I have it on hand if needed and have just been waiting to see how my body reacts during my first cycle. All I ever got were slightly itchy/sensitive nipples in the beginning, but that subsided about 4 weeks in and I haven't noticed anything else since then. Thanks for any input!

Wk 1-12: 500mg Test E / week
Wk 1-6: 30-40mg Dbol / day
Wk 1-8: Proviron 50mg / day

What did your bloodwork say?

You cant go by how your body feels or if you feel symptoms.

40mg Dbol + 500mg test equals estrogen nightmare on no AI.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Test at 500mg and running dbol with it I would recommend using an AI from day 1.

 

[MONSTRO]

If you need gains use AI only when you need it , AI is not a healthy drug ( most people think is a protector so is safe, no is not , is very bad for colesterol) . Dont use just because most cycles on net said to use . If you are low fat using masteron you probably safe .

 

[cbbram]

i definitely recommend an AI with that cycle

 

[MONSTRO]

Why??? what is good for me maybe not good for you. If you are super shreded you convert much less test to estrogen , so why use something that kill gains when you dont need it . of course if you have over 15% fat you probably need it every cycle .

 

[awm1981]

If you have bloodwork that shows estrogen is at a healthy level then you can do as you please. You cant say "I only got some itchy nips briefly so i must be fine" and think you dont need an AI.

Agreed its dont use stuff if its not needed but man I dont know anyone that can slam 500mg/test/week + 40mg Dbol/day and just run mast and not need an AI.

 

[Oldjarhead]

The only Ai I run is DIM . I run dbol without Aramosin and I’m running Deca with it too. So everyone is different

 

[awm1981]

The only Ai I run is DIM . I run dbol without Aramosin and I’m running Deca with it too. So everyone is different

How much dbol and so your bloodwork shows estrogen isnt high?

 

[MONSTRO]

Believe me :

AI are not healthy ( bad joint pain , low good colesterol, tiredness) . DONT USE if you dont need it

 

[awm1981]

Believe me :

AI are not healthy ( bad joint pain , low good colesterol, tiredness) . DONT USE if you dont need it

Right havent disagreed with that statement ever.

Problem is people like this post that they have it on hand and are running 500mg test + 40mg dbol and 99% of them will never do bloods so yea if you run bloods and a low dose or no AI keeps you at or slightly above the healthy estradiol/e2 range and no other sides then absolutely minimize the use of an AI.

 

[meathead2019]

the best AI from personal experience is Arimidex in the liquid form. I do roughly ONE DROP (1/20th of a cc) which is about 0.05 milligrams every 10-14 days. the shit is that powerful and thats all i need but i do need it. going off blood work is the best way but unless you want to get blood work all the time then figuring out estrogen can be very fickle. id at the very least have an AI on hand since youre running test and dbol. Letrozole is too harsh imo and then Aromasin the problem with that one is if you crash estrogen on it, it takes quite a while for it to come back since its an irreversible inhibitor of the aromatase enzyme.

 

[meathead2019]

half life of arimidex is 2 days so it takes 8-10 days to flush it out (4-5 half lifes)