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The reply offended me. Ya a knee jerk reaction. I'll apologize up front!

But I didn't not want to be insulted when I remembered previous comments.

I'll just step away from this.
 
The reply offended me. Ya a knee jerk reaction. I'll apologize up front!

But I didn't not want to be insulted when I remembered previous comments.

I'll just step away from this.

We are a brotherhood here man. You can be assured that no one is going to insult you.
 
i have blurocks safemail, just never ordered. Let me email him and see ehat he says to a fresh face
 
We are a brotherhood here man. You can be assured that no one is going to insult you.

we are bro and it hurts the mods to see our good members scammed believe that,for one it really pisses me off!i wasnt active enough in here but i will be from now on!.But everyone has to be more careful with every tom,dick and harry that pops up here.This board is a free for all board, any scum can come on here and sell you corn oil in a vial or just scam you all together.Follow the trusted vets and mods!Q and dont follow someone comming here promising you the moon, that nobody here even knows.There are TOO MANY GOOD SOURCES HERE, to even thing of doing such nonsense.
 
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we are bro and it hurts the mods to see our good members scammed believe that.But everyone has to be more careful with every tom,dick and harry that pops up here.This board is a free for all board, any scum can come on here and sell you corn oil in a vial or just scam you all together.Follow the trusted vets and dont follow someone comming here promising you the moon, that nobody here even knows.There are TOO MANY GOOD SOURCES HERE, to even thing of doing such nonsense.

i'd love a good source :)
 
Use search feature, search "domestic". You should find some ideas. Get your post count up and get to know some brothers to get access to private emails. Have to be active brother.

i know brother, i'm trying to get up there
 
You want the real hook-up? Browse around and you'll see their web address in thread title. Pharm grade
 
I believe m88 said it was gtg. Test levels of 4000.

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That was inhuman who was running 1ml EOD of the prop...my results came back >1500 on .75ml EOD. Had bloodwork done through my local doctor because labcorp is about 3.5 hours drive from me one way that's why I just ended up with the greater than results. I hate to think that they just sent out enough legit gear to scam some bros but it certainly looks like that is what happened. Hope they make right with everyone and either get them a refund or get them what they paid for.


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Glad I read all of this...
Sum BULL some of my broskis got burned on here over them. I remember when they were handing out freebees. I stayed away...twas tempting. Maybe dude got locked up...know how that is....pshh
 
Yet Arabian pulled strings to get bros who got burned by rfj free gear and helps everyone out, who are you and what do you do here for bros? Why should he reference you to any source?


At the time blu was proving to be a solid source and building a good reputation but that was maybe a month....we have success here that have been here much longer and they are board endorsed at this point. DS, robo, bwl.

Also to note blu didn't gather much support from the big names, none of them received gear or got samples so yes, people were curious, saw a bunch of new bros getting gear but they never personally said they were g2g from personal experience.

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Yes. Arabian pulled some favors from his sources to get some bros taken care of that got scammed. Can't expect that to happen every time (everyone runs out of favors at some point), but that was a solid bro move by Arabian. Arabian does his best to help look out for members here.
 
One thing I noticed is they had test only initially. Then all of the sudden they were a one stop shop. Has anybody received anything but test? They prob used a few bros to get a solid reputation with their prop which was probably somebody else's gear, hence the "secret oil" created by a "professional chemist."


Tread softly but carry a heavy stick.
 
^^^Thats great to hear... we have some really great members on this board

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One thing I noticed is they had test only initially. Then all of the sudden they were a one stop shop. Has anybody received anything but test? They prob used a few bros to get a solid reputation with their prop which was probably somebody else's gear, hence the "secret oil" created by a "professional chemist."


Tread softly but carry a heavy stick.

First thing I noticed was the similarity between his story and a show called Breaking Bad , Bluerocks , blue meth , secret chemist . I do believe this is were he got his game !


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One thing I noticed is they had test only initially. Then all of the sudden they were a one stop shop. Has anybody received anything but test? They prob used a few bros to get a solid reputation with their prop which was probably somebody else's gear, hence the "secret oil" created by a "professional chemist."


Tread softly but carry a heavy stick.

yes I got cut stack in first order...test p, mast, tren a
 
First thing I noticed was the similarity between his story and a show called Breaking Bad , Bluerocks , blue meth , secret chemist . I do believe this is were he got his game !


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That is awesome..bahaha


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Has anyone who has placed an order heard any updates or anything? I emailed him again today just to see if I could get a response and so far...nothing!
 
Has anyone who has placed an order heard any updates or anything? I emailed him again today just to see if I could get a response and so far...nothing!

Nothing here. Mine not so nice anyway.

I have no doubt he is on here reading these messages.
Scammers typically always have several log ins. Reading, posing as satisfied customers, ect..
Only Admin's could verify that and not sure if they have gone that route or not.
 
hey fellas, kinda new to this board as in not posting anything yet. i have been reading alot though. I also placed a small order with blurock and not recieved my order yet. no email response either. it sucks but thats life i guess. its the reason i do a small order first just to gauge. I got sucked in when i seen someones test levels come back at 4000 lol. live and learn..... btw, great board so far. have been on elite since 2005 but dont post much their either. Im more of the read and learn type.
 
hey fellas, kinda new to this board as in not posting anything yet. i have been reading alot though. I also placed a small order with blurock and not recieved my order yet. no email response either. it sucks but thats life i guess. its the reason i do a small order first just to gauge. I got sucked in when i seen someones test levels come back at 4000 lol. live and learn..... btw, great board so far. have been on elite since 2005 but dont post much their either. Im more of the read and learn type.

Of all the labs to pick...

Sorry you lost your money. Next time read more about other sources too.
 
was only 70 bucks so im not to upset. luckily i have a stock pile from my last source to hold me for awhile. i have been reading about others and looking foward to trying the reputable ones very soon.
 
was only 70 bucks so im not to upset. luckily i have a stock pile from my last source to hold me for awhile. i have been reading about others and looking foward to trying the reputable ones very soon.

Cool. I recognize this name from EF. ;)
 
The reply offended me. Ya a knee jerk reaction. I'll apologize up front!

But I didn't not want to be insulted when I remembered previous comments.

I'll just step away from this.

there is too much ego on this forum lately. if you cannot handle opinions that differ from your own then stay clear of forums .. that's why I don't go on sports forums, everyone flaps their gums on shit they have no clue about. how can you state anything as fact on something unpredictable like sports anyway? bottom line is think before you shoot on here, nothing that was said was offensive or insulting towards you.. do your homework and don't just throw your money on the roulette wheel and get mad when you lose it all
 
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there is too much ego on this forum lately. if you cannot handle opinions that differ from your own then stay clear of forums .. that's why I don't go on sports forums, everyone flaps their gums on shit they have no clue about. how can you state anything as fact on something unpredictable like sports anyway? bottom line is think before you shoot on here, nothing that was said was offensive or insulting towards you.. do your homework and don't just throw your money on the roulette wheel and get mad when you lose it all

No need for anyone to have an ego since I'm the only one that's always right. ;)
 
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there is too much ego on this forum lately. if you cannot handle opinions that differ from your own then stay clear of forums .. that's why I don't go on sports forums, everyone flaps their gums on shit they have no clue about. how can you state anything as fact on something unpredictable like sports anyway? bottom line is think before you shoot on here, nothing that was said was offensive or insulting towards you.. do your homework and don't just throw your money on the roulette wheel and get mad when you lose it all

Stevesmi. I agree with your statements. I usually do with your postings..
I apologized for acting as a dick.
My ego's fine, opinions are always welcome. I did do a lot of reading on Blu,and Only seen ceo pushing back. As I posted, a mod posted that " you can't go wrong" with Blurock. I then rolled the dice and lost. I, in no way am upset with anyone, nor my self about the loss. I put it in as a test run.
The frustration boiled over in certain responses but it's all good in my mind. Mistakes were made in several levels.
 
Stevesmi. I agree with your statements. I usually do with your postings..
I apologized for acting as a dick.
My ego's fine, opinions are always welcome. I did do a lot of reading on Blu,and Only seen ceo pushing back. As I posted, a mod posted that " you can't go wrong" with Blurock. I then rolled the dice and lost. I, in no way am upset with anyone, nor my self about the loss. I put it in as a test run.
The frustration boiled over in certain responses but it's all good in my mind. Mistakes were made in several levels.

problem with him is his track record was too short. he suckered in a lot of people and then pulled the rug out, that was his intention all along... who knows maybe he got raided I dunno.
 
No meed for anyone to have an ego since I'm the only one that's always right. ;)

I got Jacksonville Jaguars and Oakland Raiders as AFC's top 2 teams next year. and anyone who disagrees is WRONG!!
 
sort of an update.... got an email from them and this is what it said

Your order is leaving tomorrow USPS Priority. Not 1st class like the others went, which was a mistake.

B

at this point i dont care but i figured i would keep everyone in the loop
 
I got Jacksonville Jaguars and Oakland Raiders as AFC's top 2 teams next year. and anyone who disagrees is WRONG!!

Yeah but what if this really happens bro????? Ghost of Al Davis comes back and brings raider nation to it's former glory.


Tread softly but carry a heavy stick.
 
sort of an update.... got an email from them and this is what it said

Your order is leaving tomorrow USPS Priority. Not 1st class like the others went, which was a mistake.

B

at this point i dont care but i figured i would keep everyone in the loop

Tuesday the 25 th mine said "Hey Sean, shipped today 1st class no tracking. No clue why shipper did not use
priority, but its on the way. May take longer but it's coming. Thanks B"
 
Tuesday the 25 th mine said "Hey Sean, shipped today 1st class no tracking. No clue why shipper did not use
priority, but its on the way. May take longer but it's coming. Thanks B"

Is think it should have been there by now. I ship packs by FCM all the time (not jooses) and it usually takes no longer that 3-4 days to get anywhere. If you don't get it today then you know he's full of shit. Although at this point that is a pretty safe bet anyway.
 
Yup, I've emailed him 4 times since Friday. No reply.

Friday makes 4 weeks of excuses, I know at this point I'm not planning on seeing anything show up.


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Is think it should have been there by now. I ship packs by FCM all the time (not jooses) and it usually takes no longer that 3-4 days to get anywhere. If you don't get it today then you know he's full of shit. Although at this point that is a pretty safe bet anyway.

I'm thinking the same thing as Guggi and eatliftsleep
 
As I posted he emailed me, nothing new, more excuses. Still says I'll get it, needs to brew more since his "shipped" took all the product....

Who knows.


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i was just thinking, if he isnt going to mail out his product and just split, why is he still emailing his customers?
 
I've been tuning in to this thread ever so often just out of curiosity.. My question is.. Being there's a chance some of you guys do get product in the mail, is it something you feel comfortable putting in your body ?? Not this man....
 
I've been tuning in to this thread ever so often just out of curiosity.. My question is.. Being there's a chance some of you guys do get product in the mail, is it something you feel comfortable putting in your body ?? Not this man....

You hit the nail On the head bro.

You guys want to pin that shit? Braver than me. Probably olive oil.


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Let me point out something and make it very clear... Arabian is a LONG TIME vet, extremely respected and was personally handpicked and asked BY ME to be here and help be a moderator... Not only does he look out for everyone's best interest, he almost drives me nuts because he constantly checks in with me and sends me any little thing that could cause issues for ALL OF YOU... He cares so much about everyone's safety and well being, that its almost unheard considering he gets NOTHING OUT OF IT... He's just a good hearted guy that takes time out of his day to help whoever he can... ONE THING I WILL NOT TOLERATE IS ANY DISRESPECT OR QUESTIONING TOWARDS HIM IN ANY WAY... He has done nothing but do his best to help out and look out for everyone's best interest and he's a major asset and help here...
 
I still havent got a response out of him since the 28th. I just sent him another email stating how mad we all are and that we need to be refunded or he needs to ship our orders out asap (with tracking this time). I also stated that he needs to compensate us in some sort of way for all the shit he has put us through. (I know that probably not going to happen and I would be happy if I just got my order) buy hey its worth a shot.
 
This thread is just completely depressing me that he's still sending emails out that he's going to deliver. I wouldn't put anything from him in my body, how can you trust someone like this

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My guess is his package of powder that he gets domestically is stuck in customs

Very likely. Everyone here would be understanding of that if he just came out and openly announced it. Instead, he took everyone's money without product to back it up (presumably) and then gave everyone false hopes by telling them their packages were in the mail. That's dirty as hell.
 
Very likely. Everyone here would be understanding of that if he just came out and openly announced it. Instead, he took everyone's money without product to back it up (presumably) and then gave everyone false hopes by telling them their packages were in the mail. That's dirty as hell.

I agree with you bro he wasn't honest
 
So anyone that got ripped off... Who of those people got anything for free?


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Because this wasn't about free anything for me. I needed anavar, he had it, I had two previous smooth transactions. Seems straight forward enough to me.

Every source out there was a new source at one time, someone has to take the risk. I didn't post that I hadn't gotten products other then to inform people. I'm fully aware I was taking a chance.


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Because this wasn't about free anything for me. I needed anavar, he had it, I had two previous smooth transactions. Seems straight forward enough to me.

Every source out there was a new source at one time, someone has to take the risk. I didn't post that I hadn't gotten products other then to inform people. I'm fully aware I was taking a chance.


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can you pick a new source and have a good experience? of course
can you use a source that has been around forever and have a bad experience? of course

thing is we are all playing the odds here, with the type of activity this is !

the chances of having a good experience with someone trusted is ALOT higher then a noob place.You have to PLAY THE ODDS!and nothing or no place will ever be 100% guaranteed
 
can you pick a new source and have a good experience? of course
can you use a source that has been around forever and have a bad experience? of course

thing is we are all playing the odds here, with the type of activity this is !

the chances of having a good experience with someone trusted is ALOT higher then a noob place.You have to PLAY THE ODDS!and nothing or no place will ever be 100% guaranteed

I think that is exactly what Guggi was saying, he took a risk and knew it.

Someone in this thread said it best, never risk more money than you are willing to lose in this game.


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we all live and learn.. and i hate to see good people get hurt.Lots of good people on here! i wish this scumbucket would rot in hell (small chance he makes right, ill take it back)
 
M88 you nailed it. I was aware of it being a risk. I have other sources, local stuff costs a fortune, bwl and robo didn't have var at the time, and blurock did.

And the money sucks but honestly, I never ran var. I was excited to see how it would work then anything.

Till next cycle, guess my robo test e and maybe some of that bwl oil base winni will do the trick


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M88 you nailed it. I was aware of it being a risk. I have other sources, local stuff costs a fortune, bwl and robo didn't have var at the time, and blurock did.

And the money sucks but honestly, I never ran var. I was excited to see how it would work then anything.

Till next cycle, guess my robo test e and maybe some of that bwl oil base winni will do the trick


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robo is good shit, dont get better for a ugl!
 
M88 you nailed it. I was aware of it being a risk. I have other sources, local stuff costs a fortune, bwl and robo didn't have var at the time, and blurock did.

And the money sucks but honestly, I never ran var. I was excited to see how it would work then anything.

Till next cycle, guess my robo test e and maybe some of that bwl oil base winni will do the trick


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DS had var. Still does.

I recommend domestic-supply because: I've known the main guy behind it for about 15 years now. He is a very good man and he wants to provide the best products available anywhere at fair prices. In all the time I've known him he has never once scammed anyone. He is a good friend and a great brother with a ton of experience using just about everything from AAS to insulin to GH. He is walking proof of the high level of quality of products he delivers.

I recommend robolics because: I've also known him for about 15 years and he is a good person whom I consider a friend. He only recently started sourcing, but I trust him to deliver quality products and stand behind them because he is honest and sincere.

I recommend Black Widow because: Although I haven't known him as long as DS and Robo, I've spent a lot of time talking to the man about everything from where he gets his raws, to his lab setup (quite impressive I must say), to his processes, components and mixtures for pressing tablets (I know just a little bit about that). He cares about his products and it shows in the quality. If he feels like something didn't go perfectly he will correct it because he wants to put out the best products possible. I like the way he approached the board as a source too. He has done everything right, and the quality of his products speak for themselves.


I didn't like the way Blu Rock first came on to the board. I called them out on their bullshit in the first few posts of this thread. Their secret formula, their pharmaceutical chemist, their best ever number one son source for domestic only raw powders (yeah right). Everything they said, in my opinion was intended to deceive and mislead. And people paused to question...then BluRock threw out the "FREE GEARS" hook and BAM! So many jumped on and suddenly ceo was the bad guy.

And people still don't listen to me. I'm here to help you guys. I've been on the boards now for around 15 years, and it was another 9 years before then that I did my first cycle. Yes, I was too young, so don't do what I did. Point is, I know a thing or two and I can usually spot someone who is up to no good right away.
 
Hell you called him on being shady/dishonest the first day paja!

Actually, I believe that was me. Paja asked them what kind of oil they used and they gave some long bullshit answer about it being a big fucking secret sauce created by their "former US pharmaceutical chemist" [my ass].

Hi paja

We typically do not give out any information about the carrier oils. Our master brewer is a former US pharmaceutical chemist who prefers to keep his work a trade secret. It is not your typical cheap oil, it is highly sterile, easily processed by the body, thin, smooth and can handle a higher dosage of compounds. We have never had a customer complain about the vehicle into which the compound is brewed. Our product is also low viscosity, you can draw and shoot with a 25g. And yes, the dosage remains high on our items - without our chemist and his experience, we would be like any other lab who uses typical thick oils and extremely high levels of preservatives to compensate for sloppy processing.

Such a bunch of bullshit.^^^

Here was my reply and first post to these fucking jokers:

LOL! So $60 Billion Pharmaceutical giant, Pfizer has no issue disclosing that they use cottonseed oil, and exactly how much cottonseed oil, in their Testosterone Cypionate (not to mention Sandoz, Watson, Paddock, et.al.)...but some little startup UG, claims it's a fucking trade secret? You've got to be kidding me! That's red flag number one. Such a bullshit answer too.

So this former "US pharmaceutical chemist who prefers to keep his work a trade secret" is no longer a "pharmaceutical chemist"? What happened? Was he fired? Retired? More money in UG Steroid lab business? He gave up a cushy 6 figure, plus great benefits and retirement career in the pharma industry to make steroids in his kitchen? See, with all this elaborate lying, you've now made everything you say less believable, or at least more questionable. Nice work.
 
Then blurock offered freebies and posted some pics of product.

Suddenly everyone started talking about how nice the product looked, how these guys seemed like good bros, they are on their way to being a gtg source...where is Gearhead13 anyway?
 
Then blurock offered freebies and posted some pics of product.

Suddenly everyone started talking about how nice the product looked, how these guys seemed like good bros, they are on their way to being a gtg source...where is Gearhead13 anyway?

Oh it was a given that you called em out man! Lol.
 
Then blurock offered freebies and posted some pics of product.

Suddenly everyone started talking about how nice the product looked, how these guys seemed like good bros, they are on their way to being a gtg source...where is Gearhead13 anyway?
My good brother you know people here get crazy about free gears lol we always said no to him and always argument with and look now what happen maybe now they will pay attention to you
 
Then blurock offered freebies and posted some pics of product.

Suddenly everyone started talking about how nice the product looked, how these guys seemed like good bros, they are on their way to being a gtg source...where is Gearhead13 anyway?
Maybe gearhead13 was them?
 
Did anyone ever receive anything from them that was legit? I know several members stated they had recieved gear and were going to run logs etc: Where are these people at? Gearhead13 is probably an alias of Blurock however there were several more.
 
I was wondering, since we're at this point if the Admin's would Check ip's to make sure he is not still here under some alias..
 
Did anyone ever receive anything from them that was legit? I know several members stated they had recieved gear and were going to run logs etc: Where are these people at? Gearhead13 is probably an alias of Blurock however there were several more.

They said they were shipping me a NPP. after a few days i inquired if it had shipped and they said they had run out. They offered to send test but i declined.
 
They said they were shipping me a NPP. after a few days i inquired if it had shipped and they said they had run out. They offered to send test but i declined.

This was part of the freebie offer so they didnt owe me anything.
 
Im using their test e now and I feel it about an hour after pinning. And I get the test flu.. will post bloods in two weeks
let you know if anyone has there test e its good or bad
 
Im using their test e now and I feel it about an hour after pinning. And I get the test flu.. will post bloods in two weeks
let you know if anyone has there test e its good or bad

How can you feel test e an hour after pinning?
its a long ester
 
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i felt better overall and had a better sense of well being. and to clarify i didnt have this feeling on the firts two pins it was the third and 4th that i had that feeling. i'm also taking dbol and at first i could feel the dbol kick in but now i dont feel a difference when i'm taking it..
 
Im using their test e now and I feel it about an hour after pinning. And I get the test flu.. will post bloods in two weeks
let you know if anyone has there test e its good or bad

I don't know brap , I've gone down that road with test e also ! Give that up . Look up carbolic acid in raw enanthate powder from china . See if it tells you something .


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runny nose and a cough here and there.. oh and i'm getting flim build up in the morning... it was only the worse after the first pen but nothing like BIG flu symptoms
 
runny nose and a cough here and there.. oh and i'm getting flim build up in the morning... it was only the worse after the first pen but nothing like BIG flu symptoms

post nasal drip caused by allergic rhinitis. :)
 
runny nose and a cough here and there.. oh and i'm getting flim build up in the morning... it was only the worse after the first pen but nothing like BIG flu symptoms

something in that oil is fooling your body into thinking you have an infection. if that happened to me I would throw that shit out. I don't mean to scare anyone but playing around with that sort of thing can kill you because you can go into anaphylactic shock.
 
DS had var. Still does.

I recommend domestic-supply because: I've known the main guy behind it for about 15 years now. He is a very good man and he wants to provide the best products available anywhere at fair prices. In all the time I've known him he has never once scammed anyone. He is a good friend and a great brother with a ton of experience using just about everything from AAS to insulin to GH. He is walking proof of the high level of quality of products he delivers.

I recommend robolics because: I've also known him for about 15 years and he is a good person whom I consider a friend. He only recently started sourcing, but I trust him to deliver quality products and stand behind them because he is honest and sincere.

I recommend Black Widow because: Although I haven't known him as long as DS and Robo, I've spent a lot of time talking to the man about everything from where he gets his raws, to his lab setup (quite impressive I must say), to his processes, components and mixtures for pressing tablets (I know just a little bit about that). He cares about his products and it shows in the quality. If he feels like something didn't go perfectly he will correct it because he wants to put out the best products possible. I like the way he approached the board as a source too. He has done everything right, and the quality of his products speak for themselves.


I didn't like the way Blu Rock first came on to the board. I called them out on their bullshit in the first few posts of this thread. Their secret formula, their pharmaceutical chemist, their best ever number one son source for domestic only raw powders (yeah right). Everything they said, in my opinion was intended to deceive and mislead. And people paused to question...then BluRock threw out the "FREE GEARS" hook and BAM! So many jumped on and suddenly ceo was the bad guy.

And people still don't listen to me. I'm here to help you guys. I've been on the boards now for around 15 years, and it was another 9 years before then that I did my first cycle. Yes, I was too young, so don't do what I did. Point is, I know a thing or two and I can usually spot someone who is up to no good right away.

I have dealt with all 4 of those sources and my experiences shadow your analysis to a tee. 3 excellent sources and 1 liar/flake.
 
DS had var. Still does.

I recommend domestic-supply because: I've known the main guy behind it for about 15 years now. He is a very good man and he wants to provide the best products available anywhere at fair prices. In all the time I've known him he has never once scammed anyone. He is a good friend and a great brother with a ton of experience using just about everything from AAS to insulin to GH. He is walking proof of the high level of quality of products he delivers.

I recommend robolics because: I've also known him for about 15 years and he is a good person whom I consider a friend. He only recently started sourcing, but I trust him to deliver quality products and stand behind them because he is honest and sincere.

I recommend Black Widow because: Although I haven't known him as long as DS and Robo, I've spent a lot of time talking to the man about everything from where he gets his raws, to his lab setup (quite impressive I must say), to his processes, components and mixtures for pressing tablets (I know just a little bit about that). He cares about his products and it shows in the quality. If he feels like something didn't go perfectly he will correct it because he wants to put out the best products possible. I like the way he approached the board as a source too. He has done everything right, and the quality of his products speak for themselves.


I didn't like the way Blu Rock first came on to the board. I called them out on their bullshit in the first few posts of this thread. Their secret formula, their pharmaceutical chemist, their best ever number one son source for domestic only raw powders (yeah right). Everything they said, in my opinion was intended to deceive and mislead. And people paused to question...then BluRock threw out the "FREE GEARS" hook and BAM! So many jumped on and suddenly ceo was the bad guy.

And people still don't listen to me. I'm here to help you guys. I've been on the boards now for around 15 years, and it was another 9 years before then that I did my first cycle. Yes, I was too young, so don't do what I did. Point is, I know a thing or two and I can usually spot someone who is up to no good right away.

ds is the best you can find for human grade with domestic shipping ( international shipping sucks!! big reason i stopped using human grade for a short time)

robolics is the best ugl i have used, hands down.And the people running are class acts.. cant go wrong with them

black widow, never used, so no comment!
 
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