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From what I've read about post cycle therapy it seems to focus on compensating for reduced testosterone production after a cycle. It seems like a lot of this won't be applicable to women, but I'm wondering if there is any equivalent PCT that would be required.

For context I've just started my first ever cycle with 5mg anavar + 5mg transdermal testosterone daily. I'm thinking of switching from anavar to NPP at some point to be gentler on my liver I thought I'd start with oral in order to not have to figure out how to inject
 
Dose & duration are important. My hormones have always recovered to baseline levels naturally post-AAS cycle. I have only ever used up to 5mg of Var on training days for periods of up to 6 weeks. It’s important that the conditions are right to restore & support hormonal function - nutrition (adequate fat and carb intake), healthy body fat levels, recovery from training, stress/ cortisol management. Age is an important consideration here too. Are you pre- or post-menopausal, and do you get regular periods? I typically lose my period due to disrupted HPO axis (lower LH, FSH) when exposed to AAS (even at low-moderate dose like 5mg). It returns a few months after AAS is removed. You should get liver, cholesterol, hormones tested pre-, mid- and 5-weeks post cycle. Regular periods if a good sign that hormones have regulated post-AAS use.
 
I agree with what Alice in Ironland has said.
Make sure to keep it short and sweet, I’ve heard of women running long cycles or continuously on Var which I’d strongly caution against, use it instead with intent to go hard in your training to make progress then come off. I think 6/8 weeks is the sweet spot to reduce risk and see benefit.

If you keep on top of your diet, supplements, etc you should recover pretty well yourself.

While we don’t need traditional PCT drugs like clomid or nolvadex, your oestrogen, DHEA, progesterone, adrenal hormones and thyroid can be impacted. You could investigate supplements to support hormone balance recovery if you need it - things like dhea, krill pills, liver health supplements.
But you should know either based on what your body is telling you, or your blood tests ☺️
 
From what I've read about post cycle therapy it seems to focus on compensating for reduced testosterone production after a cycle. It seems like a lot of this won't be applicable to women, but I'm wondering if there is any equivalent PCT that would be required.

For context I've just started my first ever cycle with 5mg anavar + 5mg transdermal testosterone daily. I'm thinking of switching from anavar to NPP at some point to be gentler on my liver I thought I'd start with oral in order to not have to figure out how to inject
Nice to see all the EVO sisters chiming in for support here! I think it best you do a full bloodwork and let them help you out ever further.

@Alice_In_Ironland @Panda22 @Sheshredz @RoidRageWife @Jigglybuff @ifbbpromusclegirl @_bubbles
 
From what I've read about post cycle therapy it seems to focus on compensating for reduced testosterone production after a cycle. It seems like a lot of this won't be applicable to women, but I'm wondering if there is any equivalent PCT that would be required.

For context I've just started my first ever cycle with 5mg anavar + 5mg transdermal testosterone daily. I'm thinking of switching from anavar to NPP at some point to be gentler on my liver I thought I'd start with oral in order to not have to figure out how to inject
You’d need to get blood test results to even know whether you need a pct or not.
Anavar should never be used more than 12-14 weeks of the whole year because it’s an oral. Long term use youd go for an injectable because it’s not so liver toxic. Npp is for serious competitors that want to build significant amounts of muscle, not just anybody. I’d try something more mild like primobolan 🫶🏻🫶🏻
 
From what I've read about post cycle therapy it seems to focus on compensating for reduced testosterone production after a cycle. It seems like a lot of this won't be applicable to women, but I'm wondering if there is any equivalent PCT that would be required.

For context I've just started my first ever cycle with 5mg anavar + 5mg transdermal testosterone daily. I'm thinking of switching from anavar to NPP at some point to be gentler on my liver I thought I'd start with oral in order to not have to figure out how to inject
welcome to the EVO family sister :D @Woman
I dont suggest using npp for women or any nandrolones at all, why do you want to make the switch?
how long have you been on anavar and test? please tell us more
 
Thanks to everyone for all this useful information! To give a bit more background, I'm coming at this from a different place to probably a lot of people. I have a connective tissue disorder that causes joint instability and pain, and I've really been struggling to build muscle. Every time I would do exercises my muscles would go into spasm and it was very difficult to make progress. Unfortunately building muscle is the only thing that will reduce my pain. I had a friend with a similar condition who started NPP and found it beneficial and that piqued my interest.

A week into taking Anavar I'm already seeing noticeable improvements and strength and reduction in pain the reason I want to move to NPP rather than anything else is because I read that it has fewer androgenic effects. I saw 25mg/week recommended as a female dose. I also bought some so it feels like a bit of a waste if I don't use it!

In terms of PCT, I'm definitely keeping an eye on my blood levels of everything. I'll keep an eye out for hormonal changes but I haven't had anything out of the ordinary so far
 
Thanks to everyone for all this useful information! To give a bit more background, I'm coming at this from a different place to probably a lot of people. I have a connective tissue disorder that causes joint instability and pain, and I've really been struggling to build muscle. Every time I would do exercises my muscles would go into spasm and it was very difficult to make progress. Unfortunately building muscle is the only thing that will reduce my pain. I had a friend with a similar condition who started NPP and found it beneficial and that piqued my interest.

A week into taking Anavar I'm already seeing noticeable improvements and strength and reduction in pain the reason I want to move to NPP rather than anything else is because I read that it has fewer androgenic effects. I saw 25mg/week recommended as a female dose. I also bought some so it feels like a bit of a waste if I don't use it!

In terms of PCT, I'm definitely keeping an eye on my blood levels of everything. I'll keep an eye out for hormonal changes but I haven't had anything out of the ordinary so far
Connective tissue disorders often come with joint issues and poor tendon tolerance sister @Woman, so the spasms and pain you describe can be from the nervous system guarding unstable joints plus electrolyte and taurine depletion when training volume rises. OR it could be just a lack of micronutrients in the system. You have an official diagnosis or this is self diagnosed?

Before you jump from Anavar to NPP, get taurine in ed, keep magnesium and sodium consistent with ED elecrolytes, and build your training around slow tempo, isometrics, and controlled ranges so the joints feel locked and the muscles stop cramping.

NPP is still androgenic and 25mg/week is not side free, so you need to log everything and we need to see your exact Anavar dose, cycle length, current symptoms, training plan, and labs if you have them.
Please Start a log now with daily pain score, workouts, sleep, food, electrolytes, and any voice skin or hair changes so the EVO family can help you safely instead of you experimenting blind here. 15min of your time to change your life sister :D

You can see other strong women who posted here have a log up:
@ifbbpromusclegirl - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/ifbb-pro-olympian-female-offseason-log.107976/
@Panda22 - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...rutide-anavar-sponsored-by-r-d-pharma.108692/
@Alice_In_Ironland - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/build-phase-log-female.108511/

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

  • Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
  • Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
  • The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
  • Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
  • Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training Cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590
 
Thanks to everyone for all this useful information! To give a bit more background, I'm coming at this from a different place to probably a lot of people. I have a connective tissue disorder that causes joint instability and pain, and I've really been struggling to build muscle. Every time I would do exercises my muscles would go into spasm and it was very difficult to make progress. Unfortunately building muscle is the only thing that will reduce my pain. I had a friend with a similar condition who started NPP and found it beneficial and that piqued my interest.

A week into taking Anavar I'm already seeing noticeable improvements and strength and reduction in pain the reason I want to move to NPP rather than anything else is because I read that it has fewer androgenic effects. I saw 25mg/week recommended as a female dose. I also bought some so it feels like a bit of a waste if I don't use it!

In terms of PCT, I'm definitely keeping an eye on my blood levels of everything. I'll keep an eye out for hormonal changes but I haven't had anything out of the ordinary so far
Is it ehler danlos? Out of curiosity? I dated a woman who has that, and one of my daughter’s best friends has it. I could understand your wanting to look outside the box fit solutions. That’s a tough one
 
Thanks to everyone for all this useful information! To give a bit more background, I'm coming at this from a different place to probably a lot of people. I have a connective tissue disorder that causes joint instability and pain, and I've really been struggling to build muscle. Every time I would do exercises my muscles would go into spasm and it was very difficult to make progress. Unfortunately building muscle is the only thing that will reduce my pain. I had a friend with a similar condition who started NPP and found it beneficial and that piqued my interest.

A week into taking Anavar I'm already seeing noticeable improvements and strength and reduction in pain the reason I want to move to NPP rather than anything else is because I read that it has fewer androgenic effects. I saw 25mg/week recommended as a female dose. I also bought some so it feels like a bit of a waste if I don't use it!

In terms of PCT, I'm definitely keeping an eye on my blood levels of everything. I'll keep an eye out for hormonal changes but I haven't had anything out of the ordinary so far
Thanks for responding. Is the Testosterone clinic/ practitioner prescribed? Was it indicated that total T was low?
 
It makes sense to start a log and I will get onto that.

I do have hypermobile Ehlers Danlos diagnosed by a geneticist and I've got a great doctor helping me with medical treatment. The testosterone is prescribed and I've been on it for a while. My testosterone was too low and I've brought it up to a level that's in between standard female and male range without any negative side effects other than a little bit more hair.

The exercises I'm doing are all in collaboration with a physiotherapist and are all very low impact. At the moment it's all body weight and one exercise using a 500 g dumbbell.

I look into taurine but I'm already taking plenty of electrolytes (3 large scoops of Hydralyte per day). The muscles cramping up are a common feature of EDS combined with deconditioning. Basically they are trying to hold the joints together because the connective tissue is not strong enough to do this. When the muscles are weak they hold even tighter to prevent instability.

I'm considering swapping out the transdermal testosterone for NPP in order to get increased anabolic effects
 
From what I've read about post cycle therapy it seems to focus on compensating for reduced testosterone production after a cycle. It seems like a lot of this won't be applicable to women, but I'm wondering if there is any equivalent PCT that would be required.

For context I've just started my first ever cycle with 5mg anavar + 5mg transdermal testosterone daily. I'm thinking of switching from anavar to NPP at some point to be gentler on my liver I thought I'd start with oral in order to not have to figure out how to inject
focus more on your organ health during your PCT. You don't have to worry about the same things that men have to.
 
From what I've read about post cycle therapy it seems to focus on compensating for reduced testosterone production after a cycle. It seems like a lot of this won't be applicable to women, but I'm wondering if there is any equivalent PCT that would be required.

For context I've just started my first ever cycle with 5mg anavar + 5mg transdermal testosterone daily. I'm thinking of switching from anavar to NPP at some point to be gentler on my liver I thought I'd start with oral in order to not have to figure out how to inject
Sister PCT, gonna be less of a worry for females. The ladies above tell you the truth.
 
I agree with what Alice in Ironland has said.
Make sure to keep it short and sweet, I’ve heard of women running long cycles or continuously on Var which I’d strongly caution against, use it instead with intent to go hard in your training to make progress then come off. I think 6/8 weeks is the sweet spot to reduce risk and see benefit.

If you keep on top of your diet, supplements, etc you should recover pretty well yourself.

While we don’t need traditional PCT drugs like clomid or nolvadex, your oestrogen, DHEA, progesterone, adrenal hormones and thyroid can be impacted. You could investigate supplements to support hormone balance recovery if you need it - things like dhea, krill pills, liver health supplements.
But you should know either based on what your body is telling you, or your blood tests ☺️
Great advice from the females on here. Hopefully this thread can help so many people.
 
You’d need to get blood test results to even know whether you need a pct or not.
Anavar should never be used more than 12-14 weeks of the whole year because it’s an oral. Long term use youd go for an injectable because it’s not so liver toxic. Npp is for serious competitors that want to build significant amounts of muscle, not just anybody. I’d try something more mild like primobolan 🫶🏻🫶🏻
This is a great explanation right here and I agree with this. Definitely great advice.
 
From what I've read about post cycle therapy it seems to focus on compensating for reduced testosterone production after a cycle. It seems like a lot of this won't be applicable to women, but I'm wondering if there is any equivalent PCT that would be required.

For context I've just started my first ever cycle with 5mg anavar + 5mg transdermal testosterone daily. I'm thinking of switching from anavar to NPP at some point to be gentler on my liver I thought I'd start with oral in order to not have to figure out how to inject
women are definitely going to be different than men. You should focus more on bringing up your liver and kidney health and your heart health back in line and giving your mind and body a little bit of a break.
 
It makes sense to start a log and I will get onto that.

I do have hypermobile Ehlers Danlos diagnosed by a geneticist and I've got a great doctor helping me with medical treatment. The testosterone is prescribed and I've been on it for a while. My testosterone was too low and I've brought it up to a level that's in between standard female and male range without any negative side effects other than a little bit more hair.

The exercises I'm doing are all in collaboration with a physiotherapist and are all very low impact. At the moment it's all body weight and one exercise using a 500 g dumbbell.

I look into taurine but I'm already taking plenty of electrolytes (3 large scoops of Hydralyte per day). The muscles cramping up are a common feature of EDS combined with deconditioning. Basically they are trying to hold the joints together because the connective tissue is not strong enough to do this. When the muscles are weak they hold even tighter to prevent instability.

I'm considering swapping out the transdermal testosterone for NPP in order to get increased anabolic effects
will get your log approved soon sister :D
 
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