First cycle after 7 years

[slipike]

Hey guys,

This is my first post on the forum and I d like to get some advice on my first proper cycle i have planned for myself!

So many years ago i did a Test only cycle...good gains and strenght but then I was focusing more on diet and workout so i havent taken anything after for about 7-8 years. Now im 27yrs old, 161lbs, 5.7ft with about 13% body fat. Im still on low carb very high protein diet around (200g a day) and thats from proper food! Im taking Liv52, joint support matrix supplement and omega 3. And of course im getting a blood test done pre-during-post cycle!

My cycle would look like this:

week 1-8 400mg test cyp /week

week 5-10 50mg winstrol

week 5-10 50mg anavar

PCT starts after week 10 thats the reason i have dropped test cyp at week 8 because of the half life.

so week 11: 50mg clomid 20mg nolvadex and 25mg proviron

from week 12 half a dose stated above! til week 14.

That would be it!

Should i modify this by any ways or does this look alright? I know it never is the best idea to combine 2 orals but I think on a low dose like this it shouldnt be an issue!

Thanks a lot.

 

[Dustin74]

What's your goal with this cycle? I wouldn't consider 50mg a low dose especially when taken at the same time. 7 years off I would go back to a test only cycle of 500mg.

 

[slipike]

I was just about to add...i am still on calorie deficit! Shreding fat, i play football once a week and do hiit 4 days a week. so i need endurance,stamina,strenght...not necessarily size!
Shall i run var from week 1-6 and winny from 5-10? thats the other option i could think of!

 

[Dustin74]

Have you ever taken Anavar or Winstrol? I would pick one or the other and run it the last four weeks at 50mg.

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I just noticed you are running the anavar and winstrol starting at week 5. I would start then and just pick one. I have been advised on here that running both for ten weeks is fine but it's a little much for me so I'm running anavar the last four weeks. If you run both I would run N2Guard too. I would also run the test for all 10 weeks.

 

[slipike]

Sounds good, but isnt running test cyp for 10 weeks going to be a problem if i start my pct at week 11? as it has a pretty long half life thats why i wanted to stop at week 8 so it wears off the same time i stop the orals. please do correct me if im wrong. cheers

 

[dylangemelli]

this needs work.. pct starts two weeks after your last injection and you need to pick one oral... you need to run a long ester of test at least 10 weeks, 8 is too short with that ester as well.. it definitely needs work

 

[slipike]

hey man! thanks for your input i will take your advice and go with anavar only(will save winstrol after i go below 10% bf) can i then ask your opinion on how should the cycle look like? test cyp is 200mg/ml and the anavar is 10mg/tablet. thanks a lot

 

[stevesmi]

run the var at 50mg a day.. that is plenty

 

[muskate]

Do something like this -

Weeks 1 - 10
testosterone e or cyp 500mg/week (inject 250mg twice per week)
aromasin 12.5mg every other day <- very important to prevent against estrogen related side effects like gyno and water retention.

Weeks 5 - 10
Anavar 40mg/day (20mg AM 20mg PM)
A good liver aid supplement like n2guard from n2bm.com

After your cycle run the perfect PCT protocol: http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Mobster]

What the f**k was you doing taking gear at age 20?

 

[slipike]

Thats a really good question I ask myself every time since.Maybe it was 'cool' doing it so, i dont know...But the damage is done, cant go back now. Thats why i have joined the forum to get more knowledge and advice. there are a lot of crap talk online! And thanks for all that helped me out this time

 

[Mobster]

As often as we reply to the member asking the question we also know there's a bunch of others who reading who benefit from advice like not using when they're too young.

 

[Dustin74]

You're right Mobster. I haven't posted much but I've read almost all the threads. Now I get on line each day to read the new threads. I've learned a lot just by questions and statements by others. I enjoy the read and seeing how defensive some get and how others get upset when the advise given is not what they want to hear. I fall in both categories myself.

 

[Mobster]

You're right Mobster. I haven't posted much but I've read almost all the threads. Now I get on line each day to read the new threads. I've learned a lot just by questions and statements by others. I enjoy the read and seeing how defensive some get and how others get upset when the advise given is not what they want to hear. I fall in both categories myself.

We all do. And it's hard, via the net, to answer the question just so. I've found, knowing someone really well, that I can alter how I reply (even if the info is the same) in such a way as to get a message across. So being direct and blunt (if honest and truthful) isn't always as successful as we'd like.

You can find similar replies in threads to the one I'll give you now.

Unless the aim of the cycle is completely opposite to the one 7 years ago after that length of time just repeat that first cycle. If, using myself, I had great success (I did) with a very simple dbol cycle back when I started and then did NOTHING for 7 years I think I'd get a LOT from a simple dbol cycle again. If, as we often see, users do 2 or more cycles a year then there's a FAR greater need to change things up, add gear, up the dose etc.

Then, for later cycles, throw in peptides (from our sponsors Euro-petides), HGH from mailorderhgh and so on.

 

[Dustin74]

I haven't used in more than 10 years and came back on a test only cycle and it was great. Increased strength in all lifts. Starting my next cycle in a few weeks. Getting a little aggressive but my body has been there in the past. You guys helped me in another post calm down my thoughts. A slight increase in the tren and masteron from what you guys suggested but dropped one of the orals. My next cycle is based on recommendations from you guys and ultimately my coach who agreed with all the recommendations except for a slight increase in dose and dropping one oral.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

I would look at SARMs instead. Steroids will actually hurt your endurance. You don't want that as an athlete.

 

[slipike]

Hey guys,
First day of my cycle. I do listen to all of you who said i should drop the var!
The main reason is my increased bilirubin but i guess its just going to be gilbert syndrome (remember being yellow and all when i was a kid sometimes)
My testosteron level is a bit low but no symptoms (weird). Sometimes I am a bit more tired than usual (working 60-70 hours a week doesnt help that either) and lack of sleep.
My mood is fine (always grumpy) my dick works,im doing well at the gym and at the pitch,easy muscle build (or lose weight),no depression. I guess its genetics
Will keep this post updated.
Cheers

 

[gearhead]

Hey guys,
First day of my cycle. I do listen to all of you who said i should drop the var!
The main reason is my increased bilirubin but i guess its just going to be gilbert syndrome (remember being yellow and all when i was a kid sometimes)
My testosteron level is a bit low but no symptoms (weird). Sometimes I am a bit more tired than usual (working 60-70 hours a week doesnt help that either) and lack of sleep.
My mood is fine (always grumpy) my dick works,im doing well at the gym and at the pitch,easy muscle build (or lose weight),no depression. I guess its genetics
Will keep this post updated.
Cheers

bro keep us posted...