First samrs cycle, pct question

[Rich32]

Ive never used any type of sarms or prohorme so this is new for me..

My plan,

12 week cycle..

S4 (Andarine) 50mg (25mg in a.m. 25mg in p.m.
GW-501516 (Cardarine) 20mg before workout each morning.

Ive heard mixed reviews on pct.. can i just run a test booster on week 12 and be good?

Looking to cut currently 197 and 15%bf training 6 days a week sometimes 2 a days.

Any info it appreciated.

 

[Mobster]

Others, with more knowledge on Sarms, will (I'm sure) help here. Can I make one suggestion? Shorten the first cycle to 8 weeks. 12 weeks is getting towards the top end of most cycle lengths. I've done a good few 8 week cycles and a couple of 10. One 16 week cycle was far too much. 8 weeks is manageable. You can do, if you want, a longer 2nd or 3rd cycle.

 

[Rich32]

Great feedback! Ill will adjust to 8 weeks

 

[Mobster]

Cool. It's hard to know 100% how you'll react to any PED. I've written on this forum how I've found myself more likely to kick off and act out OFF gear than on (not that I'm walking around kicking ass but by way of example). ON I seem more chilled and perhaps more aware of how I'm thinking etc. Most of my bigger strength buddies are the same. Heck the more chilled they are the bigger they are - less catabolic hormones etc in their system so it's easier to grow.

However, the middleweight type guys and more average gym members and users at my local gym (including some with a couple of previous cycles under their belts) can, in my experience, find themselves only able to do what they want gym wise ON. Off... heck I barely see them. Yet we've an IFBB pro (and, as I said elsewhere some of by buddies from back in the day are 150kg plus and compete at a VERY HIGH level in strongman) who do train all round, do eat properly all year round and so on.

If, as it seems, you've (or anyone reading... we've a LOT of lurkers ha ha) little or no experience of SARMS or PED (or, as in some cases, highr dosages) then a mild to middling and relatively short first cycle should mean you're suffer few sides. Any issues with temper will be, at worse, short lived as will any potential side effects. It's also easier to be 'on point' with all the other aspects like nutrition etc etc for 8 weeks - although do try to be on point as much as you can post-cycle so as to keep the benefits and 'dem gainz' ha ha. Best of luck!

 

[Rich32]

Thanks for all your advise. My diet is on point right now i have been cutting for about 6 months now and maintained my strength on the bar. I have enjoyed power lifitng my whole life but got side tracked with kids and work.. last December i got back on the train.

December 228lb @ 25+% bf
March 207 @ 21% bf
June 1st 198 @ 15% bf

Now we will see where this takes me, goal weight for me is 185-187 @ 10%

Other sups im taking currently are..

Otc test booster
Creatine
Multivitamin
Fish oil
Amino acids

Thanks again for your help mobster.

 

[stevesmi]

Ive never used any type of sarms or prohorme so this is new for me..

My plan,

12 week cycle..

S4 (Andarine) 50mg (25mg in a.m. 25mg in p.m.
GW-501516 (Cardarine) 20mg before workout each morning.

Ive heard mixed reviews on pct.. can i just run a test booster on week 12 and be good?

Looking to cut currently 197 and 15%bf training 6 days a week sometimes 2 a days.

Any info it appreciated.

cardarine isn't hormonal. S4 is suppressive though slightly

assuming you are using real compounds!

hcgenerate ES for 8 weeks will work perfect for pct after this

 

[muskate]

The reason you hear so many mixed reviews is because so many SARMS on the market are not actually SARMS.

SARMS can only be legally sold as a research chemical liquid. Any capsulated SARMS product is most likely going to be fake or laced with a pro-hormone. I am not exaggerating when I say that every single day someone comes on the board and creates a thread asking for help because they are experiencing side effects from using capsulated SARMS. Remember to always purchase SARMS as a research chemical liquid. The SARMS source most of us on the board use is sarms1.com.

SARMS are only minimally suppressive of natural testosterone production so all that is needed as a mini PCT after a cycle of SARMS is a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.

 

[Rich32]

Im am pretty confident i have good gear? Its in a dropper and ordered from a legit source sarms1.com. came certified mail. Taste nasty though haha. Sounds like hcgenerate is in order then. Thanks for the help!!

 

[LevButlerov]

Im am pretty confident i have good gear? Its in a dropper and ordered from a legit source sarms1.com. came certified mail. Taste nasty though haha. Sounds like hcgenerate is in order then. Thanks for the help!!

Yeah, you have made a wise choice by getting your SARMS from sarms1 - they are a very reliable source. The taste can be indeed nasty, but you will get used to it with time. In any case - you can chase your SARMS with some grape juice, and it will help kill the after-taste.

As for the PCT, you will be just fine by using a good natural testosterone booster, such as HCGenerate ES because SARMS are minimally suppressive (with the exception of LGD and RAD140).

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

S4 is the only suppressive compound you are running and it is very mildly suppressive. You would be more than good to run a bottle of HCGenerate ES after your cycle for a PCT.

 

[Rich32]

Thanks all! Ill keep everyone in the loop with my results. This is a great forum.

 

[Some1son]

Great sarms advice thx