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getting weaker when drop bodyfat

bad2bone

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been getting leaner and using -500-600 calories per day on my shredder runs, bodyfat drops but my strength is dropping like crazy too, i mean a LOT! i'm doing protein with no carbs all day and supplementing glutamine, looking for supplements to help me get stronger and faster in gym while i shred up
 
Anytime your in a caloric deficit you are going to sacrifice strength unless, of course, you dip into a little vitamin s/delectable Injectables
 
bro when you lose bodyfat, you lose strength...want to get stronger? add some andarine, stuff is amazing to get you stronger...and you need a good test booster like hcgenerate...
 
bad2bone said:
been getting leaner and using -500-600 calories per day on my shredder runs, bodyfat drops but my strength is dropping like crazy too, i mean a LOT! i'm doing protein with no carbs all day and supplementing glutamine, looking for supplements to help me get stronger and faster in gym while i shred up
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What about adding some healthy fats in your diet? Avocados, walnuts, coconut oils etc...
 
missq said:
What about adding some healthy fats in your diet? Avocados, walnuts, coconut oils etc...
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i doubt he's going to get a lot stronger by eating some walnuts :cool: but I guess with mct fat he can get an extra boost in gym....
 
If he's low on carbs then adding extra fats in his diet, might give him more energy therefore giving him more strength!
 
This is the main reason I can't do low carb diets. My performance in the gym just suffers too much. I would much rather prefer moderate carbs and low fats. I can maintain strength easy while cutting on that.
 
Agree. If I don't keep my carbs around my workout, my energy and strength crashes. Currently cutting with carb cycling and am able to maintain strength with some carbs pre and post workout. I've tried very low carb in the past. It works but not my thing...
 
Ok I'm new to all this! Started taking tren and now am about to take test. Question is everything I've read suggest I should have started with the test is it gonna effect me different starting with the tren then going to the test?


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Someone has gym ADD. Just pick ONE goal and go for it. If you want to get stronger, eat and train for strength. If you want to get lean, eat and train to get lean. Doing 2 things at once never gets you to your goal. Pick one then shut up and do it.
 
Bubba82 said:
Ok I'm new to all this! Started taking tren and now am about to take test. Question is everything I've read suggest I should have started with the test is it gonna effect me different starting with the tren then going to the test?


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why are you not only hijacking a thread but posting in one that literally has nothing to do with your question? i understand you say your new to this but if your new, why are you even taking tren in the first place?? you need to start your own thread in the AAS SECTION, not supplements and also not hijack other threads bro... im just trying to teach you forum etiquette... one of the rudest things you can do is hijack a thread... don't take it wrong, im trying to help you learn, not bite your head off and im actually doing this before someone else inevitably will... go to the AAS section, click on start new thread, post your question and MYSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE will be MORE THAN HAPPY to help you out brother...
 
bad2bone said:
been getting leaner and using -500-600 calories per day on my shredder runs, bodyfat drops but my strength is dropping like crazy too, i mean a LOT! i'm doing protein with no carbs all day and supplementing glutamine, looking for supplements to help me get stronger and faster in gym while i shred up
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im confused... when you say your using 500-600 calories per day on your shredder runs, are you saying that's the total your eating or just the deficit...

im sorry but i disagree with quite a few in here... i do this for a living... i have trained and eaten on deficits for years and KNOW how to keep strength up... ONE, adding fats IS NOT the answer... that's absurd... that's like saying have some sugar because it will give you energy... based on the earlier statement... that's not the kind of energy you want and that doesn't increase strength whatsoever... the first thing you need to focus on when eating on a deficit is not only the AMOUNT of protein but your timing of it as well... recomping and cutting are extremely precise and it takes a lot of work and science to accommodate your body needs and necessities... it took me years upon years to truly get this method down and then once you think you have it, you find out its not so easy... it clicks but then you have to fix etc...

adding the proper explosive supplements as well as workout routines are key as well... you can go lower carb but you can't flat out cut them... not only is that unsustainable but very unhealthy... you can keep them moderate to low but with what your doing, what would you expect?

dspark is perfect for explosiveness and strength in the gym and as gearhead pointed out, s4 is key for strength but your diet and timing needs to be addressed first before supplementation... i can give you all the tools in the world but if YOU don't utilize them or understand what your doing then you cannot ever achieve what you should...
 
bad2bone said:
been getting leaner and using -500-600 calories per day on my shredder runs, bodyfat drops but my strength is dropping like crazy too, i mean a LOT! i'm doing protein with no carbs all day and supplementing glutamine, looking for supplements to help me get stronger and faster in gym while i shred up
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because you are in a big calorie defecit.Do you ever think about running a sarms triple stack while cutting? its extremely benficial? also look into dspark, n2slin, ancient strength and whyetobuildmuscle.
 
dylangemelli said:
im confused... when you say your using 500-600 calories per day on your shredder runs, are you saying that's the total your eating or just the deficit...



im sorry but i disagree with quite a few in here... i do this for a living... i have trained and eaten on deficits for years and KNOW how to keep strength up... ONE, adding fats IS NOT the answer... that's absurd... that's like saying have some sugar because it will give you energy... based on the earlier statement... that's not the kind of energy you want and that doesn't increase strength whatsoever... the first thing you need to focus on when eating on a deficit is not only the AMOUNT of protein but your timing of it as well... recomping and cutting are extremely precise and it takes a lot of work and science to accommodate your body needs and necessities... it took me years upon years to truly get this method down and then once you think you have it, you find out its not so easy... it clicks but then you have to fix etc...



adding the proper explosive supplements as well as workout routines are key as well... you can go lower carb but you can't flat out cut them... not only is that unsustainable but very unhealthy... you can keep them moderate to low but with what your doing, what would you expect?



dspark is perfect for explosiveness and strength in the gym and as gearhead pointed out, s4 is key for strength but your diet and timing needs to be addressed first before supplementation... i can give you all the tools in the world but if YOU don't utilize them or understand what your doing then you cannot ever achieve what you should...
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He is right bro. Super low carb diets (less than 100g ed) are great for fat loss but you sacrifice a certain amount of strength (a lot) over a short period of time. You would do better on moderate carbs and the timing and type the carbohydrates is KEY to recovery and strength if you are in a caloric deficit. I can't give you diet advice but basically you need slow GI carbs in the morning and fast GI carbs post workout. Other than that I wouldn't eat any other carbohydrates if I were you. But that's just what I find success with. You could be different.
 
It's normal for strength to go down while cutting. It can be a blow to the ego, but get past it. It's all part of the process. The strength will come back on your next bulk.
 
Fats def help anyone who says they don't is misguided

before you spend your paycheck on d spark and d slin ..

trying adding fats to some of ur meals ( not trace fats)
 
Dynex said:
Fats def help anyone who says they don't is misguided



before you spend your paycheck on d spark and d slin ..



trying adding fats to some of ur meals ( not trace fats)
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Look at how many carbs he eats his fats would have to be really high to begin with in order to hit his caloric goals, unless he is misleading us regarding his diet. OP could have sacrificed some muscle on his cut without realizing it as well.
 
Dude, that's what happens when you cut! You loose weight and get leaner, you will sacrifice strength. Now is the time to focus on volume, drop sets, supersets, and giants sets! You can get an awesome workout still, plus your muscles are becoming much more visible and defined as you get leaner!
Initially I hate the strength loss that comes with getting cut, but you are gonna look freaking awesome shredded!!!
 
Just read this thread again, in addition to my previous post, I will totally agree with Big Bro's post! ....stick with one goal or the other!
......perfectly said!!!!
 
How much test are you currently dosing? Usually when I cut carbs super low leading up to my goal date, I run my test a little higher. 1g per week as opposed to 500 per week otherwise. Keep in mind this is not sustainable but will definitely get you over the hump for those last few weeks of dieting.
 
Another thing I would highly recommend, is making sure you are implementing a refeed in a high carb day at least once every seven days if you are going low carb. Without those refeeds, your strength is going to suffer. No way around that. Keep in mind that your body NEEDS and energy source. If you are going extremely low carb (Keto or similar) then you are going to have to push the fats higher. If you push more carbs in (what I recommend) keep the fat lower. You need to do one or the other or your performance will seriously suffer
 
Rick rock! That is an excellent point, a win, win all the way around! A refeed will not only help restore muscle glycoge, which will make you stronger and fuller, It will release leptin which will help burn more fat!
Just realize a refeed doesn't mean pigging out!!
 
Rick rock! That is an excellent point, a win, win all the way around! A refeed will not only help restore muscle glycoge, which will make you stronger and fuller, It will release leptin which will help burn more fat!
Just realize a refeed doesn't mean pigging out!!
 
Try out ancient strength creatine at NTBM bro. Creatine will help a lot. Something like albuterol can really help as well , not to mention GW.


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swa2ggs said:
Dude, that's what happens when you cut! You loose weight and get leaner, you will sacrifice strength. Now is the time to focus on volume, drop sets, supersets, and giants sets! You can get an awesome workout still, plus your muscles are becoming much more visible and defined as you get leaner!
Initially I hate the strength loss that comes with getting cut, but you are gonna look freaking awesome shredded!!!
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this is what you have to focus on. your look in front of the mirror is all that should count shortly.
 
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