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Hello Fellas,

I'd like to get your opinions on this... I've been on HGH (2iu 2x day so total of 4iu a day) for almost 2 weeks now and i gotta say.... i'm loving it, maybe its because my diet is on point since i've heard HGH doesnt kick in for at least a month but i'm definitely already seeing good results and leaning out really well.

Before HGH i was pretty depressed due some bs. However, now my mood is pretty up there and i'm feeling amazing, great focus, great energy and a "Happy and dont give a F" attitude. As of right now, i've seen no bad side effects what so ever.

So this tells me that i definitely have some good HGH on my hands.

Moving on to tbol... i recently just picked up TBOL because i've had great results with it in the past and i'm thinking of running it alongside HGH, i've also picked up some armidex for water retention/gyno.

However, i'm a little confused as to how to run TBOL with my HGH... since you have to run HGH for a minimum of 3 months (i'm running it for ~5), when should i start my TBOL and when should i stop it... and when should i be looking into taking arimidex ?



Stats:
25 years old
185 lbs
5'10
3 cycles under belt
 
No, i have test prop but decided not to take it, i know i would have much better reaults but im really not in the mood for any intramuscular injections for this cycle.

I understand its a stupid decision but im really happy with the HGH at the moment and tbol has always been a fave of mine, so advice on whats mentioned here would be greatly appreciated :)
 
Well it’s not hard to lay out a tbol only cycle but I’ll let someone else do it because I really feel that strongly about test as a base. If this is your first steroid cycle, I think you’ll be extremely disappointed with the results IMO, and you only get one 1st cycle in your lifetime. Do it right, and you could have incredible results. You may also have libido issues without the test. Let me tell you from personal experience, my first cycle was oral anavar for 8 weeks and within a few weeks after stopping the cycle, I was pretty dissatisfied and had some bad issues with getting it up. I’ll get off my soapbox now. Good luck!
 
This is my 3rd cycle, and trust me I know what you mean about having issues getting it up however I had that problem while being on Sustanon325+Test E surprisingly.... as weird as that seems since that’s a crapload of test, and oh man my ex was pissed lol.

My first ever cycle was Sustanon 250 + Tbol and man oh man I was a machine in life, at work, and a monster in bed lol. So I totally understand what you mean by “you only have one first cycle”.

If anyone can confirm that I would get libido problems from tbol please throw in your opinion here :) would like to avoid that if possible hahah
 
im sorry, ill leave it to others.. .i firmly disagree with using hgh that young and im also not one for oral only cycles either... others disagree so i'll let them cover that for you bro
 
This is my 3rd cycle, and trust me I know what you mean about having issues getting it up however I had that problem while being on Sustanon325+Test E surprisingly.... as weird as that seems since that’s a crapload of test, and oh man my ex was pissed lol.

My first ever cycle was Sustanon 250 + Tbol and man oh man I was a machine in life, at work, and a monster in bed lol. So I totally understand what you mean by “you only have one first cycle”.

If anyone can confirm that I would get libido problems from tbol please throw in your opinion here :) would like to avoid that if possible hahah

I mean, if you think about it, every steroid is a derivative of testosterone so any of them will shut down your own endogenous test production, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they mimic the benefits of test, such as your libido. I’d go as far as to say that most guys ditching test from their cycles are going to have some sort of libido issues before or after. There’s hundred “help me!” threads with a google search lol
 
HGH you are a bit too young yeah.. but if you ran it do 2-4IU's per day..

make sure you are getting legit HGH. mailorderhgh has the real stuff, you can message me for a code

as for stacking tbol in it. it isn't a big deal. nothing wrong with not using test or using an oral only. people do it all the time
 
HGH you are a bit too young yeah.. but if you ran it do 2-4IU's per day..

make sure you are getting legit HGH. mailorderhgh has the real stuff, you can message me for a code

as for stacking tbol in it. it isn't a big deal. nothing wrong with not using test or using an oral only. people do it all the time


I'm taking 4IU's per day, and from the results i'm already seeing in regards to mood/skin/physically pretty sure i have some good HGH on my hands since its only been 2 weeks.

I was thinking of doing TBOL at a rate of 60mg's/day, how long would you suggest i run that for ?
 
I don't think you will notice much from tbol only. You will also be shutting down natural test and not adding androgens back in so yes, libido could possibly be an issue. If you run it anyways, I wouldn't run it more than 6-8 weeks max since it is liver toxic. Definitely be using liver protection like N2Guard throughout.
 
I'm taking 4IU's per day, and from the results i'm already seeing in regards to mood/skin/physically pretty sure i have some good HGH on my hands since its only been 2 weeks.

I was thinking of doing TBOL at a rate of 60mg's/day, how long would you suggest i run that for ?

Tbol has a short half life so make sure to split up your daily dosage into an AM and PM dosage.

You won't want to run liver toxic oral steroids longer then 6-8 weeks without a break. 6 weeks is best. 8 weeks max.
 
Thats exactly my plan, i'm actually looking for a term of 6 weeks on 60mg/day.

However, my confusion comes to when to start my PCT or if i even should while i'm still on HGH....

Basically, i'm doing HGH for 5~6 months and i'm only 2 weeks in (loving it already). So if i am doing TBOL now for 6 weeks... when i'm off it i'm still going to be on HGH, so when does PCT come in place and what should i be taking for PCT ?

I've taken the perfect PCT which is over on this forum on my last cycle, as expensive as it is its f'ing amazing lol but i'm wondering if i'd need that much as this is tbol only...
 
Thats exactly my plan, i'm actually looking for a term of 6 weeks on 60mg/day.

However, my confusion comes to when to start my PCT or if i even should while i'm still on HGH....

Basically, i'm doing HGH for 5~6 months and i'm only 2 weeks in (loving it already). So if i am doing TBOL now for 6 weeks... when i'm off it i'm still going to be on HGH, so when does PCT come in place and what should i be taking for PCT ?

I've taken the perfect PCT which is over on this forum on my last cycle, as expensive as it is its f'ing amazing lol but i'm wondering if i'd need that much as this is tbol only...

Run this for your PCT after your cycle -

Weeks 1 - 4
clomid 25mg/day
nolvadex 10mg/day
a good natural testosterone booster like hcgenerate ES from needtobuilmuscle.com 1 serving/day
a good liver aid supplement like n2guard from needtobuildmuscle.com 1 serving/day

Start the PCT the day after you stop the tbol cycle. You can keep using the HGH while on PCT since HGH does not effect testosterone levels.
 
Thats exactly my plan, i'm actually looking for a term of 6 weeks on 60mg/day.

However, my confusion comes to when to start my PCT or if i even should while i'm still on HGH....

Basically, i'm doing HGH for 5~6 months and i'm only 2 weeks in (loving it already). So if i am doing TBOL now for 6 weeks... when i'm off it i'm still going to be on HGH, so when does PCT come in place and what should i be taking for PCT ?

I've taken the perfect PCT which is over on this forum on my last cycle, as expensive as it is its f'ing amazing lol but i'm wondering if i'd need that much as this is tbol only...

Why that long?
 
^^^ HGH should be ran a minimum of 3 months. 6 months is standard
 
Exactly, i've always been told to never run it for less than 3 months so i dont see a problem with 5~6 months especially with the dosage i'm taking which i would believe is kinda safe.... but then again nothing is safe if you're talking about it in this forum :p.


@Jeff

I see, okay that sounds good to me... i also have arimidex on hand, any tips as to if i should be taking that with TBOL + HGH ?
 
Steroids and HGH have nothing to do with the other so a PCT from steroids doesn't matter if you are on HGH. HGH does not suppress natural testosterone. It is a completely different hormone all together.
 
I don't think you will notice much from tbol only. You will also be shutting down natural test and not adding androgens back in so yes, libido could possibly be an issue. If you run it anyways, I wouldn't run it more than 6-8 weeks max since it is liver toxic. Definitely be using liver protection like N2Guard throughout.

i agree a million percent.. i dont like it at all.. great points
 
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