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Ill admit it. I just ended one and started another.
Well we all have our own opinion on this subject im sure of. All depends on how ur body reacted to the first cycle. Id say 8 would b fine. But like i said. Im sure more will chime in. Just sit back. U will c what i mean. Lol.
You'll regret it in the long run man
Thaidragon
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U gotta think long term bro. Its better to cycle off for some time to let your body recover so that u can start a cycle on the future. Don't be in a hurry and screw yourself up.
The sooner you start a cycle after ending another, the less gains you will get on the next.....that is fact because of myostatin levels in the body. So you basically just fuck yourself by starting too early (Nevermind the health and HPTA complications). Myostatin takes a good 10-12 weeks to bring back to baseline. If you could just keep gaining by cycling then everyone would look like MR Olympia in no time. Use your head and take the proper time off, or else it's a waste of gear and on your health in general
Thaidragon
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U got a great point rick. Couldn't have said that any better
CT21
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With what im trying to achieve i came to the conclusion shorty after i started this journey when i was still natty that there was going to come a time were i was ON for a very long time. Now even with that said i fully stand by the belief that this is a marathon and not a race and to take it slow and steady while doing everything in my power to maintain health. But like adamchinn791 said there will be ppl who agree with what i said and others that will argue that one can still achieve professional status now a days with traditional cycling, in the end u must figure out what u enevitable want, what it will actually take to achieve what u want, and what your willing to do not only for gains but to maintain health and so on. alot of people dont understand that alot of this, what to take, how long, how much, etc, etc is finding yourself and becomjng better in tune with yourself, your needs and desires.
With that said i dont see the logic behind coming off synthetic testosterone just to go through a period of time were u have NO testosterone in your body to get to a place were your body is producing....
...wait for it...
An inferior amount/mg of testosterone that is suppose to perform ALLL of the SAME functions the synthetic test was i.e. build/maintain the same amount of lbm, athletic performance, etc... doesnt make sense to me. If your only guna do 1 or 2 cycles a year that are 8wks a piece u mine as well stay natty...just m2c thou goodluck bro
With that said i dont see the logic behind coming off synthetic testosterone just to go through a period of time were u have NO testosterone in your body to get to a place were your body is producing....
...wait for it...
An inferior amount/mg of testosterone that is suppose to perform ALLL of the SAME functions the synthetic test was i.e. build/maintain the same amount of lbm, athletic performance, etc... doesnt make sense to me. If your only guna do 1 or 2 cycles a year that are 8wks a piece u mine as well stay natty...just m2c thou goodluck bro
Mike710
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So you advocate an 'all-or-nothing' approach? In early 20s? That is a long time to be dependent on a synthetic replacement for something you could've kept producing naturally with a little more common sense.
Anyone dependent on anything is sol if they ever can't get their meds. That's a hell of a collar to voluntarily put around your neck...
CT21
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Definately not all or nothing...blasting and cruising big dog and its not for everyone. Like i said previously u need to be honest with yourself and know what u want and what ur trying to acheive. Like an athlete for example who only does a 3month cycle outta the yr during the off season. Well unless ur trying to speed up the recovery of an injury with peptides/growth/sarms why do a cycle of AAS' that will increase your performance to a point u will never be able to reach naturally during the season of your sport. And you probably will injure yourself trying to do so. U need to know what your hormone levels are like naturally, if your deficent or a high producer of test or if u have any pre-existing conditions that mite complicate the use of aas. If u can afford this LIFESTLYE and sustain it long term without worry.
I advocate knowing all these things be4 u ever stick a syringe in your ass. And if u do decide to go down this road excepting the fact that it can and probably will become a lifelong commitment. ...and there are plenty of men who need to go on test in their early twenties and should remain on it indefinately... specifically testosterone i dont see the NEED, but i can understand why ppl come off...
Blasting and cruising can be done safely and i do believe it saves u from wasted effort, run down, or any awkward situation u mite find yourself in
yes & no. its a very good idea to go off of, but does not need to be followed to the Tee.
Bloodwork would be the true telling. 10-11wks is going to be needed if you ran a 12-14-16 cycle or longer. if you did something like 8-10wks you could **potentially** get away with maybe 7, but that would be based off the fact you did some bloodwork showing your GTG and there's no real reason not to go back on.
Yeah, that's why I went with saying that it's not always the case but I do enjoy the longer cycles so I tend to stick with a longer rest/recovery time. Then again, I'm not training as a bodybuilder so it suits my lifestyle more than others. In the end it will come down to bloods and training goals.
just using a SERM is not enough for pct.
Taylor.Dauwe
EVO V.I.P
I like the combination of Clomid and Nolvadex. Plus a natty test booster. You should have all this on hand before even beginning your cycle bro. You don't need both clomid and nolvadex, one will suffice, I just prefer to have both. Also, you could even include sarms in your pct as well. Anyways, however long you do decide to wait in between cycle, do us all a favor and don't start your next one until you have every single compound you'll need for your cycle and pct.
nelson montana
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It depends on what you want. If you wnt to keep making gains naturally you should do DOUBLE time off. If you just go back aftre a few weeks, you mught as well not go off.
nelson montana
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Remember, just because you T went up, doesn;t mean it's stabilized. If you go on another cycle too soon you make it that much harder to recover form the next , and the next one. That's why it's impossible for so many guys to make gains unless they're on. People have gotten used it, but that shouldn't be. And if they just used NTBM BRIDGE they'd realize the transition wouldmbe a lot easier.
Totally agree.. Its just like anything else. You take a long enough break you bare that much more fruit.
I do one cycle a year with Sarms and other natty supplements and make improvement every single year.
