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how to use deca to bulk up

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5’9’’ 75kg and wanting to bulk up. I’m 44 years old. Been about 3 years since I used steroids. Hitting the gym 5x a week but have hit a bit of a plateau. Any advice on using deca to bulk up for 15 weeks? What would be a good way to use it ? How about this:
dbol 30mgs a day
deca 500mgs a week
and then adding some test 200-300mgs a week
 
5’9’’ 75kg and wanting to bulk up. I’m 44 years old. Been about 3 years since I used steroids. Hitting the gym 5x a week but have hit a bit of a plateau. Any advice on using deca to bulk up for 15 weeks? What would be a good way to use it ? How about this:
dbol 30mgs a day
deca 500mgs a week
and then adding some test 200-300mgs a week
I'd switch those doses. Use Test to Deca in a 2:1 ratio. If you're going to also throw in dbol get something like Aromasin at the ready.

I'd start a log too! The mods will guide you on the how-to.
 
5’9’’ 75kg and wanting to bulk up. I’m 44 years old. Been about 3 years since I used steroids. Hitting the gym 5x a week but have hit a bit of a plateau. Any advice on using deca to bulk up for 15 weeks? What would be a good way to use it ? How about this:
dbol 30mgs a day
deca 500mgs a week
and then adding some test 200-300mgs a week
@s.gentz said it best 250 test with 150 deca maybe even 100 with 20mgs dbol and n2guard :D
Test 250/wk
Deca 150/wk
Dbol 20mg/day when lifts stall
AI on hand
N2guard
 
i would run deca like this:

deca 400mgs a week
test 500mgs a week
use an AI
 
i think its important to use caber with deca. also aromasin is a smart choice. otherwise you can get estrogen issues
 
why not do NPP instead? it is much better. it kicks in faster and is out faster
 
deca is good. but i would transition to EQ. do the EQ 400mgs a week
 
5’9’’ 75kg and wanting to bulk up. I’m 44 years old. Been about 3 years since I used steroids. Hitting the gym 5x a week but have hit a bit of a plateau. Any advice on using deca to bulk up for 15 weeks? What would be a good way to use it ? How about this:
dbol 30mgs a day
deca 500mgs a week
and then adding some test 200-300mgs a week
Why are you only doing 15 weeks why not do 300:300 and until bloods start to go bad. Maybe pull the dbol and just have an AI on hand and a few oh GH like 5iu. If you are going to pct don't take deca
 
500mg of nandrolone decanoate is a lot.

19-nor steroids (like Nandrolone Decanoate [Deca], Nandrolone Phenylpropionate [NPP], and Trenbolone) have some unique side effects compared to testosterone or DHT-derived compounds. Here’s the breakdown:


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🔹 Hormonal / Estrogenic Effects

Progestin activity:

19-nors bind to the progesterone receptor, which can increase prolactin levels.

High prolactin can cause gyno, lactation-like symptoms, and sexual dysfunction (“Deca dick”).


Estrogen conversion:

Nandrolone aromatizes weakly → mainly to estrone (E1), not estradiol (E2). This can cause estrogenic side effects (bloat, gyno), but differently than testosterone.

Trenbolone does not aromatize but still increases prolactin risk.




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🔹 Androgenic Effects

Hair loss / acne / oily skin (lower than DHT-derivatives but still present).

Tren is very androgenic, while Nandrolone is milder but still suppressive.



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🔹 Sexual Side Effects

Erectile dysfunction & low libido (“Deca dick”) from prolactin + low DHT in tissues.

Nandrolone reduces conversion to DHT in sexual tissues → less androgenic support for erection/libido.

Tren can cause high libido or crashing libido depending on dose, prolactin, and estrogen balance.



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🔹 Cardiovascular & Health Risks

Worsen cholesterol profile (↓ HDL, ↑ LDL).

Raise blood pressure (especially Tren).

Increase hematocrit / RBC count.

Liver strain is minimal (since injectables), but Trenbolone is harsher overall on kidneys and general systemic stress.



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🔹 Neurological / Psychological

Trenbolone: aggression, irritability, anxiety, night sweats, insomnia, “tren cough.”

Nandrolone: usually calmer, but can still cause mood swings if hormones are unbalanced.



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🔹 Suppression

Very suppressive to natural testosterone production (HPTA shutdown).

Harder recovery post-cycle compared to something like EQ or mild DHTs.



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✅ Ways users usually mitigate:

Cabergoline or Pramipexole (dopamine agonists) → control prolactin.

AI (Anastrozole, Letro, Aromasin) → control estrogen.

Proviron / Masteron → DHT-like support to offset “Deca dick.”

Keeping testosterone as a base in the cycle.



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👉 Summary:

Nandrolone = softer, more joint-friendly, mild but causes prolactin + ED risk.

Trenbolone = extreme strength & recomposition, but harsher on mind, heart, and recovery.
 
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