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fonathso

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Was reading about the death of Nelson Montana and how tragic he collapsed while on the elliptical
Now I want to know the truth about what killed him and what cycle he was doing where he had his stroke and passed away. Heard from a trusted vet he was on a couple grams of trenbolone which is crazy to me.
can you guys do a podcast about his death cycle I would like to hear it it sounds like it would be an exciting one to do, maybe post and link the info on his autopsy
 
fonathso said:
Was reading about the death of Nelson Montana and how tragic he collapsed while on the elliptical
Now I want to know the truth about what killed him and what cycle he was doing where he had his stroke and passed away. Heard from a trusted vet he was on a couple grams of trenbolone which is crazy to me.
can you guys do a podcast about his death cycle I would like to hear it it sounds like it would be an exciting one to do, maybe post and link the info on his autopsy
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I can't find a thing that suggests he's dead. I call BS
 
fonathso said:
Was reading about the death of Nelson Montana and how tragic he collapsed while on the elliptical
Now I want to know the truth about what killed him and what cycle he was doing where he had his stroke and passed away. Heard from a trusted vet he was on a couple grams of trenbolone which is crazy to me.
can you guys do a podcast about his death cycle I would like to hear it it sounds like it would be an exciting one to do, maybe post and link the info on his autopsy
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Nelson died? thats no good

I think he was using primobolan
 
bro it tro story
look proof:

https://www.gaymontana.org
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...dead-1-injured-in-montana-campground-shooting
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/did-nelson-montana-do-gay-pay-80307.html

here Montoya death cycle according to autopsy proof

2000mgs Tren Ace per week (real man steroid)
2500mgs Primobolan per week (poosy steroid)
150mgs anavar per day (poosy steroid)
2 gallons boy sperm per day (good protein fresh)

that death cycle, should do podcast and explain all 4 compound and waht they do and why he do it

RIP Montoya he died doing what he love



 
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nelson did primo
 
yea for sure primo for nelson
 
bros montoya dead. just read autopsy

choke on boyfriend sperm, same way father died. run in family i guess. son next i hear

can happen to any of us. RIP
 
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BodyMonster34 said:
bros montoya dead. just read autopsy

choke on boyfriend sperm, same way father died. run in family i guess. son next i hear

can happen to any of us. RIP
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HAHA. Okay, I understand you're obsessed with getting blow jobs from guys. To each his own.


But it's sad to see that an awesome message board has become a playground for a phony like Jason to make fake posts and his buddy BM to respond with sperm jokes. This board has really slipped.
 
The Suppleminator said:
HAHA. Okay, I understand you're obsessed with getting blow jobs from guys. To each his own.


But it's sad to see that an awesome message board has become a playground for a phony like Jason to make fake posts and his buddy BM to respond with sperm jokes. This board has really slipped.
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Suppleminator your writing style and your constant defense of Nelson Montana makes me think you're Nelsons alter, just saying. Don't know if true but seems like it.

Even if you are, Nelson was a knowledgeable guy and can add a lot to the forums if he actually helps.

here are 2 threads actual Nelson could help without sarcasm
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ork-after-6-months-tren-test-cycle-85373.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/sust-250-first-cycle-85371.html

But instead you do this drama dance, why bother? help the community instead.
 
BodyMonster34 said:
^^^ bro agrees with yo post except knowledgeable part.

look proof> https://anabolex.com/community/threads/dianabol-bridge-from-nelson-montana.5415/

lol
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Where's the original link?

Truth is as follows:

Nelson was never a original thinker as such. He was a part of the original gang (seen in roundtable chats on Muscle Media 2000 with Dan Duchane and others) but only, IMO, as a researcher / gofer. The kind you can ask (like many of us in fact) rather than one who creates on his own.

He's not dead. Morons playing moron games doesn't change that.

His best work was working with RickyVRock (probably researching the ingredients) on N2Guard
 
Mobster said:
Where's the original link?

Truth is as follows:

Nelson was never a original thinker as such. He was a part of the original gang (seen in roundtable chats on Muscle Media 2000 with Dan Duchane and others) but only, IMO, as a researcher / gofer. The kind you can ask (like many of us in fact) rather than one who creates on his own.

He's not dead. Morons playing moron games doesn't change that.

His best work was working with RickyVRock (probably researching the ingredients) on N2Guard
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This is true, though a lot of those early MM2000 crowd were pretty original thinkers (for the time) even if a lot of stuff has been shown not to be all that accurate. But that's the way it is in any field.

I don't think Montana had any legit medical training but he was the first one I know of to come up with the short cycle theory. Also the anti cardio stance and the anti clomid stance and the pro herbal stance for liver protection and PCT. Whatever you may think of those things , good or bad, they were all pretty original. And copied. But he did not come up the the "d-bol bridge theory. Someone mentioned on that AI thread that is was Bill Roberts -- a guy who DID have medical training and who Duchaine really liked, but he too was wrong about a shit ton of stuff. I don't know if he's still around. Montana has appeared on Youtube and facebook as recently as last week so obviously the rumors of his death is just a chance for Jason and his cretin pal Body Monster to have some 9th grade fun.
 
The Suppleminator said:
This is true, though a lot of those early MM2000 crowd were pretty original thinkers (for the time) even if a lot of stuff has been shown not to be all that accurate. But that's the way it is in any field.

I don't think Montana had any legit medical training but he was the first one I know of to come up with the short cycle theory. Also the anti cardio stance and the anti clomid stance and the pro herbal stance for liver protection and PCT. Whatever you may think of those things , good or bad, they were all pretty original. And copied. But he did not come up the the "d-bol bridge theory. Someone mentioned on that AI thread that is was Bill Roberts -- a guy who DID have medical training and who Duchaine really liked, but he too was wrong about a shit ton of stuff. I don't know if he's still around. Montana has appeared on Youtube and facebook as recently as last week so obviously the rumors of his death is just a chance for Jason and his cretin pal Body Monster to have some 9th grade fun.
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I've been extremely fortunate to have been around two of the original UK gurus in the form of Mick Hart (of the Layman's Guide fame) as well as the late Paul Borreson. Mick always erred to the shorter and safer end of the spectrum and that was before Nelson. Whereas Paul was a 'let's see how far we can take it'. Mick I've met, drunk with, stayed with and got sloshed with a good few times (some great stories too ha ha). Paul was helpful to me when I had Muscle Mob (as did Mick). To a lesser degree you could probably mention my name to Dave Crosland (aka the UGFreak) and even occasional guru Kerry Kayes (worked with Paul at Chemical Warfare).

I'll stick with my thoughts on Nelson. He's be a great one to debate the why's and where-fores with but I still don't think of him as a true original. More a method of action kind of guy. When it comes to PEDs I'd still say he knows more than me lol
 
Mobster said:
I've been extremely fortunate to have been around two of the original UK gurus in the form of Mick Hart (of the Layman's Guide fame) as well as the late Paul Borreson. Mick always erred to the shorter and safer end of the spectrum and that was before Nelson. Whereas Paul was a 'let's see how far we can take it'. Mick I've met, drunk with, stayed with and got sloshed with a good few times (some great stories too ha ha). Paul was helpful to me when I had Muscle Mob (as did Mick). To a lesser degree you could probably mention my name to Dave Crosland (aka the UGFreak) and even occasional guru Kerry Kayes (worked with Paul at Chemical Warfare).

I'll stick with my thoughts on Nelson. He's be a great one to debate the why's and where-fores with but I still don't think of him as a true original. More a method of action kind of guy. When it comes to PEDs I'd still say he knows more than me lol
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I remember Paul Borrsson! Crazy dude. Smart and funny but WAY over the top! With EVERYTHING. And it seemed to be his demise.

I don't know Mick Hart but it wouldn't surprise me if several people had similar ideas. Sometimes I think I came up with an exercise move and then find out some guy from 1930 was doing it. LOL Montana did the short cycle theory in Steroids For Health" before I even touched steroids, but I just looked it up and that was 1998. That's a long time ago.
 
The Suppleminator said:
I remember Paul Borrsson! Crazy dude. Smart and funny but WAY over the top! With EVERYTHING. And it seemed to be his demise.

I don't know Mick Hart but it wouldn't surprise me if several people had similar ideas. Sometimes I think I came up with an exercise move and then find out some guy from 1930 was doing it. LOL Montana did the short cycle theory in Steroids For Health" before I even touched steroids, but I just looked it up and that was 1998. That's a long time ago.
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Oh yeah. I started lifting in 1980. I'd have started researching gear around age 35 (I used aged 37) so about 1998 too
 
The Suppleminator said:
Mick Hart was advocating short cycles before 1998? Any references to that? I'd like to check it out. (Keep in mind, a "normal" cycle back then was 8 weeks.)
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He might. But I said I looked him up etc around 1998. I'll need to check my copy of his book for a date / timeline

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His first edition was 1993. Most of his cycles were 8 weeks
 
Mobster said:
He might. But I said I looked him up etc around 1998. I'll need to check my copy of his book for a date / timeline

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His first edition was 1993. Most of his cycles were 8 weeks
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Yeah, that was the norm. In Duchaine's pamphet/ book (circa 1995?) he spoke about 6 week cycles, but not as anything out of the ordinary. I believe Montana was the first to advocate 4 week cycles and shorter breaks between cycles -- which always made sense to me. I've found it's a better approach to the "up and down" long cycles with long breaks.

In a way, most of the theories at the time were original because these were the first guys to apply these drugs for enhancement purposes. Borresson was the first to advocate insane cycles but paid the price. And Pulumbo was the first guy to represent what limitless cycles can and will do.

It all seems so quaint now. But it's funny, how we should all know better with all the information available today yet people are more ignorant and misguided than ever.
 
The Suppleminator said:
Yeah, that was the norm. In Duchaine's pamphet/ book (circa 1995?) he spoke about 6 week cycles, but not as anything out of the ordinary. I believe Montana was the first to advocate 4 week cycles and shorter breaks between cycles -- which always made sense to me. I've found it's a better approach to the "up and down" long cycles with long breaks.

In a way, most of the theories at the time were original because these were the first guys to apply these drugs for enhancement purposes. Borresson was the first to advocate insane cycles but paid the price. And Pulumbo was the first guy to represent what limitless cycles can and will do.

It all seems so quaint now. But it's funny, how we should all know better with all the information available today yet people are more ignorant and misguided than ever.
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That seems to ignore all the bodybuilders and weightlifters using AAS in the 50's, 60's and 70's. QED the reputed Arnold Cycle etc.

What Dan et al did was expose it in a magazine. And even then I've old mags which had steroids mentioned on the cover (usually some kind of warning / horror / evil drugs type story)
 
Mobster said:
That seems to ignore all the bodybuilders and weightlifters using AAS in the 50's, 60's and 70's. QED the reputed Arnold Cycle etc.

What Dan et al did was expose it in a magazine. And even then I've old mags which had steroids mentioned on the cover (usually some kind of warning / horror / evil drugs type story)
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Not really. It wasn't talked about openly back then. And usage in the 50's was very small. And yeah, mention of steroids were mostly as a "warning." Dan was the first guy to put it out there and that opened the door but there was still limited information.

The info on Arnold's cycle came out in the late 90's , not at the time. Guys in the same circle started opening up. The internet allowed for that. The magazines did not -- until MM2000. And that started all the theories -- the short cycle being one of them.
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
Suppleminator your writing style and your constant defense of Nelson Montana makes me think you're Nelsons alter, just saying. Don't know if true but seems like it.

Even if you are, Nelson was a knowledgeable guy and can add a lot to the forums if he actually helps.

here are 2 threads actual Nelson could help without sarcasm
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ork-after-6-months-tren-test-cycle-85373.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/sust-250-first-cycle-85371.html

But instead you do this drama dance, why bother? help the community instead.
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bro Supplepoosy never explained this. he calling other phony yet he not explain this one. can admin check IP address on both accounts. let see truth.
 
The Suppleminator said:
Not really. It wasn't talked about openly back then. And usage in the 50's was very small. And yeah, mention of steroids were mostly as a "warning." Dan was the first guy to put it out there and that opened the door but there was still limited information.

The info on Arnold's cycle came out in the late 90's , not at the time. Guys in the same circle started opening up. The internet allowed for that. The magazines did not -- until MM2000. And that started all the theories -- the short cycle being one of them.
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Go back and read what I quoted. See below for clarity:

In a way, most of the theories at the time were original because these were the first guys to apply these drugs for enhancement purposes.

So you actually support that. What you dispute is how the info came out. And we both know that rumors abound and have always done. Read Randy Roach and John D Fair's books

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BodyMonster34 said:
bro Supplepoosy never explained this. he calling other phony yet he not explain this one. can admin check IP address on both accounts. let see truth.
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I've seen them (few minutes ago). It's Nelson under an alias
 
Mobster said:
I've seen them (few minutes ago). It's Nelson under an alias
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bro thank for confirm what we all alrady know

so yo sayin the dood gong around calling others phony the real phony. got cha as they say in texas

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Npcclassicphysique champ said:
Suppleminator your writing style and your constant defense of Nelson Montana makes me think you're Nelsons alter, just saying. Don't know if true but seems like it.

Even if you are, Nelson was a knowledgeable guy and can add a lot to the forums if he actually helps..
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bro yo called it week ago. good call

montoya if alive should man up and stop bein ga poosy and post under real name. bro i miss having someone to throw down with on forum.
 
BodyMonster34 said:
bro thank for confirm what we all alrady know

so yo sayin the dood gong around calling others phony the real phony. got cha as they say in texas

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bro yo called it week ago. good call

montoya if alive should man up and stop bein ga poosy and post under real name. bro i miss having someone to throw down with on forum.
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100%. Say who you are. Be proud.
 
Mobster said:
100%. Say who you are. Be proud.
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bro that may be the problem

he ain't proud of himself

so he make fake name and come on here and pat himself on back with it and hate on people lolz.
 
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