Approved Log Pre-Cycle Log - 21 Years old

[LiftingLarry]

Hello everyone, this is my first log, if any more info is required please let me know.

Age: 21
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Estimated bodyfat: 14-15%
Training experience: 4 years ish
Cycle history: None
Planned cycle: Testosterone cypionate 500 mg/week (Open to change!)
Planned duration: 16 weeks (Open to change!)
Ai on hand: Arimidex
Pct plan: Nolvadex (Not set in stone)
Current Bloodwork:

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Red Blood Cells (RBC)	5.18	x10⁶/µL	4.4 – 5.9
Hemoglobin (HGB)	16.0	g/dL	14.3 – 17.5
Hematocrit (HCT)	44.6	%	42.3 – 53.7
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)	86.1	fL	77.0 – 94.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH)	30.9	pg	26.0 – 35.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)	35.9	%	32.0 – 36.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-CV)	11.8	%	11.5 – 16.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-SD)	37.0	fL	29 – 46
Erythroblasts	0.0	%	—
Platelets	242	x10³/µL	150 – 500
Mean Platelet Volume (MPV)	10.2	fL	8.9 – 13.0

​

White Blood Cell Differential​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total WBC	6.8	x10³/µL	4.5 – 10.0
Neutrophils	39.1	%	40.0 – 75.0
Lymphocytes	48.7	%	20.0 – 45.0
Monocytes	7.8	%	2.0 – 10.0
Eosinophils	4.0	%	0.0 – 4.0
Basophils	0.3	%	0.0 – 1.0
Immature Granulocytes	0.1	%	0.0 – 2.0

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase)	21	U/L	11 – 34
ALT (Alanine Aminotransferase / SGPT)	18	U/L	0 – 45 (Males)

Hormone Panel​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Estradiol (E2)	<24	pg/mL	11 – 44 (Males)
FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone)	1.13	mIU/mL	0.95 – 11.95 (Males)
LH (Luteinizing Hormone)	1.25	mIU/mL	0.57 – 12.07 (Males)
Albumin (Serum)	4.553	g/dL	3.5 – 5.0
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)	35.2	nmol/L	13.5 – 71.4 (Males)
Total Testosterone	18.02 nmol/L / 519.67 ng/dL	—	349 – 1009 ng/dL
Free Androgen Index	51.19	%	14.8 – 95.0
Calculated Free Testosterone (CFT)	1.96 % / 101.64 pg/mL	—	46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL (ages 18–69)
Bioavailable Testosterone	49.10 % / 255.16 ng/dL	—	110.0 – 575.0 ng/dL (ages 18–69)

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total Cholesterol	154	mg/dL	<200
HDL Cholesterol	58	mg/dL	>40
Non-HDL Cholesterol (calculated)	96	mg/dL	<130
LDL Cholesterol (direct)	78	mg/dL	<116
Triglycerides	54	mg/dL	<150
Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio	2.6	—	<4.5
LDL / HDL Ratio	1.3	—	<3.5

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Prolactin	8.49 ng/mL	ng/mL	3.46 – 19.40 (Males)
	178.23	mIU/L	—

Program: Currently running push pull legs, standard, 6 days a week, i've tried many other splits but for me this is the most enjoyable one, with hypertrophy being the focus.

Today i did a "push" day and logged everything, heres what i did:

I'd also like to mention that i train nearly everything to failure, more so because i enjoy it alot even though i understand it could be counterproductive, so you will see my numbers dropping as the sets go on

Chest:
Incline bench press: 175lb for 3 sets (first set 10, second 8, last one 6)
Plate loaded chest press: 225lb for 2 sets (first set 12, second set 8)
Standard chest fly: Full stack (220 lb i'm pretty sure) Did this for 2 sets (First set 10, second set 9)

Shoulders:
Seated smith machine military press (i guess that would be the name?) 165 lb for 3 sets (first 12, second 10, last 9)
Cable lateral raises: 30 pounds (shit humbles you lol), 3 sets, all to 15 reps, def slowed down throughout the last

Triceps: Skull crushers with 70lb bar, for 3 sets, first 10, last 2 i managed to get 8.
Cable pushdowns: 144lb, did 3 sets, first 11 reps, (aiming for 12), second 10, last one 6.


And that would be a push day for me, if i logged this incorrently or added too much info let me know lmao.


Cardio: Light steady-state cardio, usually around 45 minutes daily on the treadmill, walking speed.

Diet: Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat. 76kg currently, hoping to be around 70-71 kg, at 11-12% bodyfat in the rest of my 4 weeks of my deficit. This is a typical day of eating for me, sorry if some of the logs are in spanish, i eat many of my carbs pre-workout.

If i'm not in a calorie deficit, i literally just add rice and beans to this diet, and remove the crackers/rice cakes, i end up eating around 2500-2600 comfortably for maintence and i feel great. I rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out. (The macro goals in MyFitnessPlan aren't exactly the same as mine, as i change them accordingly to how i feel, however they are mostly consistant).

When it comes to sleep, i usually sleep 7-8 hours, have lots of dreams, no issues.

Supplements: Only really suplement creatine protein shakes, and preworkout.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello everyone, this is my first log, if any more info is required please let me know.

Age: 21
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Estimated bodyfat: 14-15%
Training experience: 4 years ish
Cycle history: None
Planned cycle: Testosterone cypionate 500 mg/week (Open to change!)
Planned duration: 16 weeks (Open to change!)
Ai on hand: Arimidex
Pct plan: Nolvadex (Not set in stone)
Current Bloodwork:

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Red Blood Cells (RBC)	5.18	x10⁶/µL	4.4 – 5.9
Hemoglobin (HGB)	16.0	g/dL	14.3 – 17.5
Hematocrit (HCT)	44.6	%	42.3 – 53.7
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)	86.1	fL	77.0 – 94.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH)	30.9	pg	26.0 – 35.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)	35.9	%	32.0 – 36.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-CV)	11.8	%	11.5 – 16.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-SD)	37.0	fL	29 – 46
Erythroblasts	0.0	%	—
Platelets	242	x10³/µL	150 – 500
Mean Platelet Volume (MPV)	10.2	fL	8.9 – 13.0

​

White Blood Cell Differential​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total WBC	6.8	x10³/µL	4.5 – 10.0
Neutrophils	39.1	%	40.0 – 75.0
Lymphocytes	48.7	%	20.0 – 45.0
Monocytes	7.8	%	2.0 – 10.0
Eosinophils	4.0	%	0.0 – 4.0
Basophils	0.3	%	0.0 – 1.0
Immature Granulocytes	0.1	%	0.0 – 2.0

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase)	21	U/L	11 – 34
ALT (Alanine Aminotransferase / SGPT)	18	U/L	0 – 45 (Males)

Hormone Panel​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Estradiol (E2)	<24	pg/mL	11 – 44 (Males)
FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone)	1.13	mIU/mL	0.95 – 11.95 (Males)
LH (Luteinizing Hormone)	1.25	mIU/mL	0.57 – 12.07 (Males)
Albumin (Serum)	4.553	g/dL	3.5 – 5.0
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)	35.2	nmol/L	13.5 – 71.4 (Males)
Total Testosterone	18.02 nmol/L / 519.67 ng/dL	—	349 – 1009 ng/dL
Free Androgen Index	51.19	%	14.8 – 95.0
Calculated Free Testosterone (CFT)	1.96 % / 101.64 pg/mL	—	46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL (ages 18–69)
Bioavailable Testosterone	49.10 % / 255.16 ng/dL	—	110.0 – 575.0 ng/dL (ages 18–69)

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total Cholesterol	154	mg/dL	<200
HDL Cholesterol	58	mg/dL	>40
Non-HDL Cholesterol (calculated)	96	mg/dL	<130
LDL Cholesterol (direct)	78	mg/dL	<116
Triglycerides	54	mg/dL	<150
Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio	2.6	—	<4.5
LDL / HDL Ratio	1.3	—	<3.5

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Prolactin	8.49 ng/mL	ng/mL	3.46 – 19.40 (Males)
	178.23	mIU/L	—

Program: Currently running push pull legs, standard, 6 days a week, i've tried many other splits but for me this is the most enjoyable one, with hypertrophy being the focus.

Today i did a "push" day and logged everything, heres what i did:

I'd also like to mention that i train nearly everything to failure, more so because i enjoy it alot even though i understand it could be counterproductive, so you will see my numbers dropping as the sets go on

Chest:
Incline bench press: 175lb for 3 sets (first set 10, second 8, last one 6)
Plate loaded chest press: 225lb for 2 sets (first set 12, second set 8)
Standard chest fly: Full stack (220 lb i'm pretty sure) Did this for 2 sets (First set 10, second set 9)

Shoulders:
Seated smith machine military press (i guess that would be the name?) 165 lb for 3 sets (first 12, second 10, last 9)
Cable lateral raises: 30 pounds (shit humbles you lol), 3 sets, all to 15 reps, def slowed down throughout the last

Triceps: Skull crushers with 70lb bar, for 3 sets, first 10, last 2 i managed to get 8.
Cable pushdowns: 144lb, did 3 sets, first 11 reps, (aiming for 12), second 10, last one 6.


And that would be a push day for me, if i logged this incorrently or added too much info let me know lmao.


Cardio: Light steady-state cardio, usually around 45 minutes daily on the treadmill, walking speed.

Diet: Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat. 76kg currently, hoping to be around 70-71 kg, at 11-12% bodyfat in the rest of my 4 weeks of my deficit. This is a typical day of eating for me, sorry if some of the logs are in spanish, i eat many of my carbs pre-workout.
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If i'm not in a calorie deficit, i literally just add rice and beans to this diet, and remove the crackers/rice cakes, i end up eating around 2500-2600 comfortably for maintence and i feel great. I rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out. (The macro goals in MyFitnessPlan aren't exactly the same as mine, as i change them accordingly to how i feel, however they are mostly consistant).

When it comes to sleep, i usually sleep 7-8 hours, have lots of dreams, no issues.

Supplements: Only really suplement creatine protein shakes, and preworkout.

Welcome now FULLY to the EVO family! @LiftingLarry EVO family respect you started the precycle instead of just jumping on.
Your background, training, and diet setup look really well thought out for a first run plan and you’re clearly taking this seriously.

For your first cycle, we should not plan it yet until you have updated us at least 3-4 weeks. Let's see how this plays out.

Your training log reads clean and the failure work suits your style, just monitor fatigue. Keep updating your log with training and how you feel each week so we can see your situation.
Your food is a different story, protein is too low, carbs are too low, get protein to 300 grams level and carbs to over 250 level with more fat.
We need more pics from you as well.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

 

[BeMe]

Welcome to the family bro.

Honestly I really can't support a guy as young as you hopping on test unless you had an actual medical reason for it. I remember your previous post thread and you looked great already.

There's too many guys your age being influenced by these influencers that blast gear young and make it seem cool. The Tren twins, Togi, Alex Eubank, etc. Theres an epidemic of young guys ruining their long term health right now.

I'd love it if you gave it aleast another few years. Building a natural base will only make things better when you do start to cycle. You won't just blow up and deflate like a balloon.

At the end of the day it's your choice, but based on your bloodwork you're a perfect healthy dude. Why mess that up if you have no plans to compete.

Looking bigger is cool and all but what if your dick stops working? It happens

 

[LiftingLarry]

Welcome now FULLY to the EVO family! @LiftingLarry EVO family respect you started the precycle instead of just jumping on.
Your background, training, and diet setup look really well thought out for a first run plan and you’re clearly taking this seriously.

For your first cycle, we should not plan it yet until you have updated us at least 3-4 weeks. Let's see how this plays out.

Your training log reads clean and the failure work suits your style, just monitor fatigue. Keep updating your log with training and how you feel each week so we can see your situation.
Your food is a different story, protein is too low, carbs are too low, get protein to 300 grams level and carbs to over 250 level with more fat.
We need more pics from you as well.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

Welcome now FULLY to the EVO family! @LiftingLarry EVO family respect you started the precycle instead of just jumping on.
Your background, training, and diet setup look really well thought out for a first run plan and you’re clearly taking this seriously.

For your first cycle, we should not plan it yet until you have updated us at least 3-4 weeks. Let's see how this plays out.

Your training log reads clean and the failure work suits your style, just monitor fatigue. Keep updating your log with training and how you feel each week so we can see your situation.
Your food is a different story, protein is too low, carbs are too low, get protein to 300 grams level and carbs to over 250 level with more fat.
We need more pics from you as well.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere

Alright, i'm just a little confused about something, because those numbers (300 protein, 250 carbs, higher fat) is something i'd aim for during a maintaining/bulking phase, currently i'm trying to lose body fat, simply the protein and carbs would put me above 2200 calories, including the fats, i'd be way above my deficit. How should i go about that then?

As for the digestive suplements i don't use anything specific, recomendations would help, but as i currently stand i've never had issues.

I'll post some pictures from today's back workout, i do feel like my physique has been overrated a bit, as the pictures i shared had good lighting and angles, i tried to take the pictures in more natural lighting today.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yes!!!! @LiftingLarry there it is! Welcome to the EVO family brother. I love the title of your log good choice for you for now especially with that damn bloodwork it's like out of a text book.

Trust @LevButlerov 's advice he took me next level, including waiting that amount of time for us to follow your progress before any gear gets into play. But remember you can always be honest on here so don't pin yourself and then think we'll berate you and then think you have to ghost us. I'd follow Lev's advice and put your faith in him and this board. He's not head moderator for nothing. He coached me into gaining more in 16 weeks than I ever had in my life including supplements I had never heard of that really helped; I thought I knew tons... I didn't!

Maybe this is the ex-cop in me but do I see a possibly not-natty avatar pic @LiftingLarry. This really your first cycle?

 

[LevButlerov]

Alright, i'm just a little confused about something, because those numbers (300 protein, 250 carbs, higher fat) is something i'd aim for during a maintaining/bulking phase, currently i'm trying to lose body fat, simply the protein and carbs would put me above 2200 calories, including the fats, i'd be way above my deficit. How should i go about that then?

Calories don’t matter as much as macros. You can easily recomp on higher protein and moderate carbs even if total calories look high on paper.

Keep protein at 300 g, carbs at 250 g, fats moderate, and watch the mirror instead of the scale. The structure lets you build muscle and drop fat at the same time while prepping for the cycle. @LiftingLarry

As for the digestive suplements i don't use anything specific, recomendations would help, but as i currently stand i've never had issues.

add daily probiotics to start off.

I'll post some pictures from today's back workout, i do feel like my physique has been overrated a bit, as the pictures i shared had good lighting and angles, i tried to take the pictures in more natural lighting today.

Good back, I do like the width , very nice! lets get actual training shared as you go.

 

[LiftingLarry]

Today's log: Not much to say, including pictures of my pull workout from today in my reply.

I started with:
Back:

• Plate loaded chest supported low row: 2 sets 270lb for 10 reps on the first set, 8 on the second.
• Lat pulldowns with wide grip: for 3 sets 200lb got 10 reps on the first set, 9 on the second, only 6 on the third.
• Machine Pullover: 3 Sets of 200lb, 11 first set, 8 on second, 8 on the third. (i love this machine, i listen to dorian's blood and guts whenever i do it as corny as it sounds)
• Back extensions: I do these to target my lower back, my physical therapist approved of these, i do these with a 45 pound plates and aim for 20 reps, i do 3 sets of this.
• Rear delt fly: 3 Sets, 110lb, i do these unilaterally but don't train these to complete failure, i managed to get 12 reps every set.

Biceps

• Barbell curl: 90lb, 3 sets, first set managed to get 12, second the same (probably cheated a little lol) and got 10 on the third.
• Concentration curl: 30lb, 3 sets, 10 reps on all 3 sets (not complete failure)
• Hammer curl 50lb, 3 sets, honestly i lose count of my repitions on these all the time, but i usually get around 10-12 reps.

My logs will be more ordered as i get the hang of this. I usually aim for 10 reps for the first set, i warm up properly and assure my first set is my most effective, if i start getting more than 10 reps on an exercise i usually increase the weight ever so slightly.

 

[LiftingLarry]

Calories don’t matter as much as macros. You can easily recomp on higher protein and moderate carbs even if total calories look high on paper.

Keep protein at 300 g, carbs at 250 g, fats moderate, and watch the mirror instead of the scale. The structure lets you build muscle and drop fat at the same time while prepping for the cycle. @LiftingLarry

add daily probiotics to start off.

Good back, I do like the width , very nice! lets get actual training shared as you go.

Alright man i'll certainly aim for that! Will def up the cardio though haha

 

[LiftingLarry]

Welcome to the family bro.

Honestly I really can't support a guy as young as you hopping on test unless you had an actual medical reason for it. I remember your previous post thread and you looked great already.

There's too many guys your age being influenced by these influencers that blast gear young and make it seem cool. The Tren twins, Togi, Alex Eubank, etc. Theres an epidemic of young guys ruining their long term health right now.

I'd love it if you gave it aleast another few years. Building a natural base will only make things better when you do start to cycle. You won't just blow up and deflate like a balloon.

At the end of the day it's your choice, but based on your bloodwork you're a perfect healthy dude. Why mess that up if you have no plans to compete.

Looking bigger is cool and all but what if your dick stops working? It happens

I still very much so appreciate the advice, and i don't blame you at all for not supporting this decision, when it comes to fitness influencers, they def do portray an unhealthy way of living, and even if they don't do so intentionally they do glorify it. I would like to mention that PEDS is something that i've been tempted for years now, and it's not some random thing on impulse of "i wanna look better and get all the chicks hell yeah!" don't know how to explain it, but it's more than that, as ridiculous as it sounds. Does that make my decision any better? Probably not lmao but i'll try to do it as reasonably as i can.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Calories don’t matter as much as macros

Hallelujah amen and happy Hanukah to this!!!!

 

[LiftingLarry]

I still very much so appreciate the advice, and i don't blame you at all for not supporting this decision, when it comes to fitness influencers, they def do portray an unhealthy way of living, and even if they don't do so intentionally they do glorify it. I would like to mention that PEDS is something that i've been tempted for years now, and it's not some random thing on impulse of "i wanna look better and get all the chicks hell yeah!" don't know how to explain it, but it's more than that, as ridiculous as it sounds. Does that make my decision any better? Probably not lmao but i'll try to do it as reasonably as i can.

I am a life time natural, i take it as a huge compliment to look not natty in certain angles and lighting, because that means my fear of taking gear and looking natural anyways doesn't matter LOL.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I am a life time natural, i take it as a huge compliment to look not natty in certain angles and lighting, because that means my fear of taking gear and looking natural anyways doesn't matter LOL.

This is good to hear bro I appreciate the honesty and believe you. Keep going natty let's see where this goes keep updating for a month try daily updates of what you can post and throw up everything you take with pics, etc. Looking forward to following you on this one to the end.

 

[Freakfitness]

Hello everyone, this is my first log, if any more info is required please let me know.

Age: 21
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Estimated bodyfat: 14-15%
Training experience: 4 years ish
Cycle history: None
Planned cycle: Testosterone cypionate 500 mg/week (Open to change!)
Planned duration: 16 weeks (Open to change!)
Ai on hand: Arimidex
Pct plan: Nolvadex (Not set in stone)
Current Bloodwork:

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Red Blood Cells (RBC)	5.18	x10⁶/µL	4.4 – 5.9
Hemoglobin (HGB)	16.0	g/dL	14.3 – 17.5
Hematocrit (HCT)	44.6	%	42.3 – 53.7
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)	86.1	fL	77.0 – 94.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH)	30.9	pg	26.0 – 35.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)	35.9	%	32.0 – 36.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-CV)	11.8	%	11.5 – 16.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-SD)	37.0	fL	29 – 46
Erythroblasts	0.0	%	—
Platelets	242	x10³/µL	150 – 500
Mean Platelet Volume (MPV)	10.2	fL	8.9 – 13.0

​

White Blood Cell Differential​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total WBC	6.8	x10³/µL	4.5 – 10.0
Neutrophils	39.1	%	40.0 – 75.0
Lymphocytes	48.7	%	20.0 – 45.0
Monocytes	7.8	%	2.0 – 10.0
Eosinophils	4.0	%	0.0 – 4.0
Basophils	0.3	%	0.0 – 1.0
Immature Granulocytes	0.1	%	0.0 – 2.0

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase)	21	U/L	11 – 34
ALT (Alanine Aminotransferase / SGPT)	18	U/L	0 – 45 (Males)

Hormone Panel​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Estradiol (E2)	<24	pg/mL	11 – 44 (Males)
FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone)	1.13	mIU/mL	0.95 – 11.95 (Males)
LH (Luteinizing Hormone)	1.25	mIU/mL	0.57 – 12.07 (Males)
Albumin (Serum)	4.553	g/dL	3.5 – 5.0
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)	35.2	nmol/L	13.5 – 71.4 (Males)
Total Testosterone	18.02 nmol/L / 519.67 ng/dL	—	349 – 1009 ng/dL
Free Androgen Index	51.19	%	14.8 – 95.0
Calculated Free Testosterone (CFT)	1.96 % / 101.64 pg/mL	—	46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL (ages 18–69)
Bioavailable Testosterone	49.10 % / 255.16 ng/dL	—	110.0 – 575.0 ng/dL (ages 18–69)

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total Cholesterol	154	mg/dL	<200
HDL Cholesterol	58	mg/dL	>40
Non-HDL Cholesterol (calculated)	96	mg/dL	<130
LDL Cholesterol (direct)	78	mg/dL	<116
Triglycerides	54	mg/dL	<150
Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio	2.6	—	<4.5
LDL / HDL Ratio	1.3	—	<3.5

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Prolactin	8.49 ng/mL	ng/mL	3.46 – 19.40 (Males)
	178.23	mIU/L	—

Program: Currently running push pull legs, standard, 6 days a week, i've tried many other splits but for me this is the most enjoyable one, with hypertrophy being the focus.

Today i did a "push" day and logged everything, heres what i did:

I'd also like to mention that i train nearly everything to failure, more so because i enjoy it alot even though i understand it could be counterproductive, so you will see my numbers dropping as the sets go on

Chest:
Incline bench press: 175lb for 3 sets (first set 10, second 8, last one 6)
Plate loaded chest press: 225lb for 2 sets (first set 12, second set 8)
Standard chest fly: Full stack (220 lb i'm pretty sure) Did this for 2 sets (First set 10, second set 9)

Shoulders:
Seated smith machine military press (i guess that would be the name?) 165 lb for 3 sets (first 12, second 10, last 9)
Cable lateral raises: 30 pounds (shit humbles you lol), 3 sets, all to 15 reps, def slowed down throughout the last

Triceps: Skull crushers with 70lb bar, for 3 sets, first 10, last 2 i managed to get 8.
Cable pushdowns: 144lb, did 3 sets, first 11 reps, (aiming for 12), second 10, last one 6.


And that would be a push day for me, if i logged this incorrently or added too much info let me know lmao.


Cardio: Light steady-state cardio, usually around 45 minutes daily on the treadmill, walking speed.

Diet: Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat. 76kg currently, hoping to be around 70-71 kg, at 11-12% bodyfat in the rest of my 4 weeks of my deficit. This is a typical day of eating for me, sorry if some of the logs are in spanish, i eat many of my carbs pre-workout.
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If i'm not in a calorie deficit, i literally just add rice and beans to this diet, and remove the crackers/rice cakes, i end up eating around 2500-2600 comfortably for maintence and i feel great. I rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out. (The macro goals in MyFitnessPlan aren't exactly the same as mine, as i change them accordingly to how i feel, however they are mostly consistant).

When it comes to sleep, i usually sleep 7-8 hours, have lots of dreams, no issues.

Supplements: Only really suplement creatine protein shakes, and preworkout.

Welcome bro!! look forward to seeing your progress!!

 

[Allupfromhere]

Welcome, young brother. You have found yourself at the right place. Bro, you look fantastic already, and your commitment and dedication from the last four years definitely show. Well done.

At the end of the day, brother, it's your body and your choice. But why not keep slaying natty while your body matures a little more? You will only have an even bigger and more conditioned base to start with, and then PEDs will help you on an entirely different level.

As @HarleyGuy mentioned, though, if you do choose to run gear, you don't need to hide it just because some have made suggestions to wait longer. Keep it all on the table so you can get accurate help and advice from the boys here, as it's even more important starting young. Believe me when I say you don't have to hide anything; there is no judgment here, only help and support.

Wishing you all the best on your journey, brother. Will be following along.

 

[Mobster]

Calories don’t matter as much as macros. You can easily recomp on higher protein and moderate carbs even if total calories look high on paper.

Keep protein at 300 g, carbs at 250 g, fats moderate, and watch the mirror instead of the scale. The structure lets you build muscle and drop fat at the same time while prepping for the cycle. @LiftingLarry

add daily probiotics to start off.

Good back, I do like the width , very nice! lets get actual training shared as you go.

There are many examples here of this

 

[stevesmi]

I am a life time natural, i take it as a huge compliment to look not natty in certain angles and lighting, because that means my fear of taking gear and looking natural anyways doesn't matter LOL.

@LiftingLarry A lot of people, especially those who are too much involved in social media, think that to be a bodybuilder you have to use a bunch of gear and it's just not true. I weight train for 13 years before I ever touched.

 

[toddthelineman]

i wanna look better and get all the chicks hell yeah

Just want to point out… getting huge will not get you more puss. Ever. It will get you some of the chicks that like that, but they aren’t the majority. I got waaaaaaaay more ass as a natty. I look almost outlandish at my age and it actually makes women feel pretty insecure. I get a lot of inappropriate attention from the wrong chicks and it’s not the best. It’s not going to stop you at all, and it’s different at your age because you still have like the whole world of women available to you as they aren’t all married, our loaded down with baggage, or completely involved in some stupid career. It’s extremely common for men to think that what they want to look like is what women are looking for. Women are looking for… abstract things. Something to think about

 

[LiftingLarry]

Just want to point out… getting huge will not get you more puss. Ever. It will get you some of the chicks that like that, but they aren’t the majority. I got waaaaaaaay more ass as a natty. I look almost outlandish at my age and it actually makes women feel pretty insecure. I get a lot of inappropriate attention from the wrong chicks and it’s not the best. It’s not going to stop you at all, and it’s different at your age because you still have like the whole world of women available to you as they aren’t all married, our loaded down with baggage, or completely involved in some stupid career. It’s extremely common for men to think that what they want to look like is what women are looking for. Women are looking for… abstract things. Something to think about

Sorry if this came out this way, but, what i was trying to say was that my reason for starting wasn’t some random impulse like wanting to get more women.

 

[toddthelineman]

Sorry if this came out this way, but, what i was trying to say was that my reason for starting wasn’t some random impulse like wanting to get more women.

Oh for sure. I caught that. And I understand. We do this for ourselves! I just wanted to put that out there, too, since you mentioned it

 

[Ulter]

Hello everyone, this is my first log, if any more info is required please let me know.

Age: 21
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Estimated bodyfat: 14-15%
Training experience: 4 years ish
Cycle history: None
Planned cycle: Testosterone cypionate 500 mg/week (Open to change!)
Planned duration: 16 weeks (Open to change!)
Ai on hand: Arimidex
Pct plan: Nolvadex (Not set in stone)
Current Bloodwork:

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Red Blood Cells (RBC)	5.18	x10⁶/µL	4.4 – 5.9
Hemoglobin (HGB)	16.0	g/dL	14.3 – 17.5
Hematocrit (HCT)	44.6	%	42.3 – 53.7
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)	86.1	fL	77.0 – 94.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH)	30.9	pg	26.0 – 35.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)	35.9	%	32.0 – 36.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-CV)	11.8	%	11.5 – 16.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-SD)	37.0	fL	29 – 46
Erythroblasts	0.0	%	—
Platelets	242	x10³/µL	150 – 500
Mean Platelet Volume (MPV)	10.2	fL	8.9 – 13.0

​

White Blood Cell Differential​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total WBC	6.8	x10³/µL	4.5 – 10.0
Neutrophils	39.1	%	40.0 – 75.0
Lymphocytes	48.7	%	20.0 – 45.0
Monocytes	7.8	%	2.0 – 10.0
Eosinophils	4.0	%	0.0 – 4.0
Basophils	0.3	%	0.0 – 1.0
Immature Granulocytes	0.1	%	0.0 – 2.0

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase)	21	U/L	11 – 34
ALT (Alanine Aminotransferase / SGPT)	18	U/L	0 – 45 (Males)

Hormone Panel​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Estradiol (E2)	<24	pg/mL	11 – 44 (Males)
FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone)	1.13	mIU/mL	0.95 – 11.95 (Males)
LH (Luteinizing Hormone)	1.25	mIU/mL	0.57 – 12.07 (Males)
Albumin (Serum)	4.553	g/dL	3.5 – 5.0
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)	35.2	nmol/L	13.5 – 71.4 (Males)
Total Testosterone	18.02 nmol/L / 519.67 ng/dL	—	349 – 1009 ng/dL
Free Androgen Index	51.19	%	14.8 – 95.0
Calculated Free Testosterone (CFT)	1.96 % / 101.64 pg/mL	—	46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL (ages 18–69)
Bioavailable Testosterone	49.10 % / 255.16 ng/dL	—	110.0 – 575.0 ng/dL (ages 18–69)

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total Cholesterol	154	mg/dL	<200
HDL Cholesterol	58	mg/dL	>40
Non-HDL Cholesterol (calculated)	96	mg/dL	<130
LDL Cholesterol (direct)	78	mg/dL	<116
Triglycerides	54	mg/dL	<150
Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio	2.6	—	<4.5
LDL / HDL Ratio	1.3	—	<3.5

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Prolactin	8.49 ng/mL	ng/mL	3.46 – 19.40 (Males)
	178.23	mIU/L	—

Program: Currently running push pull legs, standard, 6 days a week, i've tried many other splits but for me this is the most enjoyable one, with hypertrophy being the focus.

Today i did a "push" day and logged everything, heres what i did:

I'd also like to mention that i train nearly everything to failure, more so because i enjoy it alot even though i understand it could be counterproductive, so you will see my numbers dropping as the sets go on

Chest:
Incline bench press: 175lb for 3 sets (first set 10, second 8, last one 6)
Plate loaded chest press: 225lb for 2 sets (first set 12, second set 8)
Standard chest fly: Full stack (220 lb i'm pretty sure) Did this for 2 sets (First set 10, second set 9)

Shoulders:
Seated smith machine military press (i guess that would be the name?) 165 lb for 3 sets (first 12, second 10, last 9)
Cable lateral raises: 30 pounds (shit humbles you lol), 3 sets, all to 15 reps, def slowed down throughout the last

Triceps: Skull crushers with 70lb bar, for 3 sets, first 10, last 2 i managed to get 8.
Cable pushdowns: 144lb, did 3 sets, first 11 reps, (aiming for 12), second 10, last one 6.


And that would be a push day for me, if i logged this incorrently or added too much info let me know lmao.


Cardio: Light steady-state cardio, usually around 45 minutes daily on the treadmill, walking speed.

Diet: Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat. 76kg currently, hoping to be around 70-71 kg, at 11-12% bodyfat in the rest of my 4 weeks of my deficit. This is a typical day of eating for me, sorry if some of the logs are in spanish, i eat many of my carbs pre-workout.
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If i'm not in a calorie deficit, i literally just add rice and beans to this diet, and remove the crackers/rice cakes, i end up eating around 2500-2600 comfortably for maintence and i feel great. I rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out. (The macro goals in MyFitnessPlan aren't exactly the same as mine, as i change them accordingly to how i feel, however they are mostly consistant).

When it comes to sleep, i usually sleep 7-8 hours, have lots of dreams, no issues.

Supplements: Only really suplement creatine protein shakes, and preworkout.

it is very risky at 21 years old to use steroids. i mean i won't lie. i started using them young too. but i wish i had waited @LiftingLarry

 

[toddthelineman]

Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat

It always amazes me how “bigger” guys (you’re pretty big, even especially for your age) can do so much more with so much less. My 23 year old 105# daughter lifts and meal preps and this is about what she eats normally.

rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out

Good job man. I fail to do that pretty often. I “get away with it” but the difference between me winging it and me adhering to a planned diet is pretty drastic. I’m ok with it because I don’t have any serious goals, but I’d like to have more self control lol

 

[Allupfromhere]

I would like to mention that PEDS is something that i've been tempted for years now, and it's not some random thing on impulse of "i wanna look better and get all the chicks hell yeah!" don't know how to explain it, but it's more than that, as ridiculous as it sounds.

I completely understand you bro, its not for anyone else. Its our desire to see how far we can take ourselves, its what keeps us working hard towards what we want. Although as mentions i would like you to give your body a few more years i do however feel your mature mentally enough to go for it.

 

[2Thick]

Hello everyone, this is my first log, if any more info is required please let me know.

Age: 21
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Estimated bodyfat: 14-15%
Training experience: 4 years ish
Cycle history: None
Planned cycle: Testosterone cypionate 500 mg/week (Open to change!)
Planned duration: 16 weeks (Open to change!)
Ai on hand: Arimidex
Pct plan: Nolvadex (Not set in stone)
Current Bloodwork:

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Red Blood Cells (RBC)	5.18	x10⁶/µL	4.4 – 5.9
Hemoglobin (HGB)	16.0	g/dL	14.3 – 17.5
Hematocrit (HCT)	44.6	%	42.3 – 53.7
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)	86.1	fL	77.0 – 94.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH)	30.9	pg	26.0 – 35.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)	35.9	%	32.0 – 36.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-CV)	11.8	%	11.5 – 16.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-SD)	37.0	fL	29 – 46
Erythroblasts	0.0	%	—
Platelets	242	x10³/µL	150 – 500
Mean Platelet Volume (MPV)	10.2	fL	8.9 – 13.0

​

White Blood Cell Differential​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total WBC	6.8	x10³/µL	4.5 – 10.0
Neutrophils	39.1	%	40.0 – 75.0
Lymphocytes	48.7	%	20.0 – 45.0
Monocytes	7.8	%	2.0 – 10.0
Eosinophils	4.0	%	0.0 – 4.0
Basophils	0.3	%	0.0 – 1.0
Immature Granulocytes	0.1	%	0.0 – 2.0

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase)	21	U/L	11 – 34
ALT (Alanine Aminotransferase / SGPT)	18	U/L	0 – 45 (Males)

Hormone Panel​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Estradiol (E2)	<24	pg/mL	11 – 44 (Males)
FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone)	1.13	mIU/mL	0.95 – 11.95 (Males)
LH (Luteinizing Hormone)	1.25	mIU/mL	0.57 – 12.07 (Males)
Albumin (Serum)	4.553	g/dL	3.5 – 5.0
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)	35.2	nmol/L	13.5 – 71.4 (Males)
Total Testosterone	18.02 nmol/L / 519.67 ng/dL	—	349 – 1009 ng/dL
Free Androgen Index	51.19	%	14.8 – 95.0
Calculated Free Testosterone (CFT)	1.96 % / 101.64 pg/mL	—	46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL (ages 18–69)
Bioavailable Testosterone	49.10 % / 255.16 ng/dL	—	110.0 – 575.0 ng/dL (ages 18–69)

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total Cholesterol	154	mg/dL	<200
HDL Cholesterol	58	mg/dL	>40
Non-HDL Cholesterol (calculated)	96	mg/dL	<130
LDL Cholesterol (direct)	78	mg/dL	<116
Triglycerides	54	mg/dL	<150
Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio	2.6	—	<4.5
LDL / HDL Ratio	1.3	—	<3.5

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Prolactin	8.49 ng/mL	ng/mL	3.46 – 19.40 (Males)
	178.23	mIU/L	—

Program: Currently running push pull legs, standard, 6 days a week, i've tried many other splits but for me this is the most enjoyable one, with hypertrophy being the focus.

Today i did a "push" day and logged everything, heres what i did:

I'd also like to mention that i train nearly everything to failure, more so because i enjoy it alot even though i understand it could be counterproductive, so you will see my numbers dropping as the sets go on

Chest:
Incline bench press: 175lb for 3 sets (first set 10, second 8, last one 6)
Plate loaded chest press: 225lb for 2 sets (first set 12, second set 8)
Standard chest fly: Full stack (220 lb i'm pretty sure) Did this for 2 sets (First set 10, second set 9)

Shoulders:
Seated smith machine military press (i guess that would be the name?) 165 lb for 3 sets (first 12, second 10, last 9)
Cable lateral raises: 30 pounds (shit humbles you lol), 3 sets, all to 15 reps, def slowed down throughout the last

Triceps: Skull crushers with 70lb bar, for 3 sets, first 10, last 2 i managed to get 8.
Cable pushdowns: 144lb, did 3 sets, first 11 reps, (aiming for 12), second 10, last one 6.


And that would be a push day for me, if i logged this incorrently or added too much info let me know lmao.


Cardio: Light steady-state cardio, usually around 45 minutes daily on the treadmill, walking speed.

Diet: Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat. 76kg currently, hoping to be around 70-71 kg, at 11-12% bodyfat in the rest of my 4 weeks of my deficit. This is a typical day of eating for me, sorry if some of the logs are in spanish, i eat many of my carbs pre-workout.
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If i'm not in a calorie deficit, i literally just add rice and beans to this diet, and remove the crackers/rice cakes, i end up eating around 2500-2600 comfortably for maintence and i feel great. I rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out. (The macro goals in MyFitnessPlan aren't exactly the same as mine, as i change them accordingly to how i feel, however they are mostly consistant).

When it comes to sleep, i usually sleep 7-8 hours, have lots of dreams, no issues.

Supplements: Only really suplement creatine protein shakes, and preworkout.

this is a good one for sure. @LiftingLarry i love the dinner and snacks you are putting together. keep up the good work

 

[ceo]

Just want to point out… getting huge will not get you more puss. Ever. It will get you some of the chicks that like that, but they aren’t the majority. I got waaaaaaaay more ass as a natty. I look almost outlandish at my age and it actually makes women feel pretty insecure. I get a lot of inappropriate attention from the wrong chicks and it’s not the best. It’s not going to stop you at all, and it’s different at your age because you still have like the whole world of women available to you as they aren’t all married, our loaded down with baggage, or completely involved in some stupid career. It’s extremely common for men to think that what they want to look like is what women are looking for. Women are looking for… abstract things. Something to think about

@toddthelineman bros this true. my wife a tiny asian. she always telling me i getting too big. i smash her too much in bed plus i'm a BBC so i hurt her a lot of times

 

[toddthelineman]

@toddthelineman bros this true. my wife a tiny asian. she always telling me i getting too big. i smash her too much in bed plus i'm a BBC so i hurt her a lot of times

Well. You’re a big guy no matter what. So I’m sure she likes it hahaha. It’s a little different, of course you should embrace who you are, just like when I was getting so frustrated that I couldn’t gain weight and you told me not to be frustrated. I know it’s true, my advantage is that I don’t get fat, but I still want to be bigger hahaha. I don’t much worry about what women want. They don’t know either

 

[ceo]

Well. You’re a big guy no matter what. So I’m sure she likes it hahaha. It’s a little different, of course you should embrace who you are, just like when I was getting so frustrated that I couldn’t gain weight and you told me not to be frustrated. I know it’s true, my advantage is that I don’t get fat, but I still want to be bigger hahaha. I don’t much worry about what women want. They don’t know either

bros my wife know what she want. she wants the BBC

 

[toddthelineman]

bros my wife know what she want. she wants the BBC

Yeah she does

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hello everyone, this is my first log, if any more info is required please let me know.

Age: 21
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Estimated bodyfat: 14-15%
Training experience: 4 years ish
Cycle history: None
Planned cycle: Testosterone cypionate 500 mg/week (Open to change!)
Planned duration: 16 weeks (Open to change!)
Ai on hand: Arimidex
Pct plan: Nolvadex (Not set in stone)
Current Bloodwork:

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Red Blood Cells (RBC)	5.18	x10⁶/µL	4.4 – 5.9
Hemoglobin (HGB)	16.0	g/dL	14.3 – 17.5
Hematocrit (HCT)	44.6	%	42.3 – 53.7
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)	86.1	fL	77.0 – 94.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH)	30.9	pg	26.0 – 35.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)	35.9	%	32.0 – 36.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-CV)	11.8	%	11.5 – 16.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-SD)	37.0	fL	29 – 46
Erythroblasts	0.0	%	—
Platelets	242	x10³/µL	150 – 500
Mean Platelet Volume (MPV)	10.2	fL	8.9 – 13.0

​

White Blood Cell Differential​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total WBC	6.8	x10³/µL	4.5 – 10.0
Neutrophils	39.1	%	40.0 – 75.0
Lymphocytes	48.7	%	20.0 – 45.0
Monocytes	7.8	%	2.0 – 10.0
Eosinophils	4.0	%	0.0 – 4.0
Basophils	0.3	%	0.0 – 1.0
Immature Granulocytes	0.1	%	0.0 – 2.0

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase)	21	U/L	11 – 34
ALT (Alanine Aminotransferase / SGPT)	18	U/L	0 – 45 (Males)

Hormone Panel​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Estradiol (E2)	<24	pg/mL	11 – 44 (Males)
FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone)	1.13	mIU/mL	0.95 – 11.95 (Males)
LH (Luteinizing Hormone)	1.25	mIU/mL	0.57 – 12.07 (Males)
Albumin (Serum)	4.553	g/dL	3.5 – 5.0
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)	35.2	nmol/L	13.5 – 71.4 (Males)
Total Testosterone	18.02 nmol/L / 519.67 ng/dL	—	349 – 1009 ng/dL
Free Androgen Index	51.19	%	14.8 – 95.0
Calculated Free Testosterone (CFT)	1.96 % / 101.64 pg/mL	—	46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL (ages 18–69)
Bioavailable Testosterone	49.10 % / 255.16 ng/dL	—	110.0 – 575.0 ng/dL (ages 18–69)

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total Cholesterol	154	mg/dL	<200
HDL Cholesterol	58	mg/dL	>40
Non-HDL Cholesterol (calculated)	96	mg/dL	<130
LDL Cholesterol (direct)	78	mg/dL	<116
Triglycerides	54	mg/dL	<150
Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio	2.6	—	<4.5
LDL / HDL Ratio	1.3	—	<3.5

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Prolactin	8.49 ng/mL	ng/mL	3.46 – 19.40 (Males)
	178.23	mIU/L	—

Program: Currently running push pull legs, standard, 6 days a week, i've tried many other splits but for me this is the most enjoyable one, with hypertrophy being the focus.

Today i did a "push" day and logged everything, heres what i did:

I'd also like to mention that i train nearly everything to failure, more so because i enjoy it alot even though i understand it could be counterproductive, so you will see my numbers dropping as the sets go on

Chest:
Incline bench press: 175lb for 3 sets (first set 10, second 8, last one 6)
Plate loaded chest press: 225lb for 2 sets (first set 12, second set 8)
Standard chest fly: Full stack (220 lb i'm pretty sure) Did this for 2 sets (First set 10, second set 9)

Shoulders:
Seated smith machine military press (i guess that would be the name?) 165 lb for 3 sets (first 12, second 10, last 9)
Cable lateral raises: 30 pounds (shit humbles you lol), 3 sets, all to 15 reps, def slowed down throughout the last

Triceps: Skull crushers with 70lb bar, for 3 sets, first 10, last 2 i managed to get 8.
Cable pushdowns: 144lb, did 3 sets, first 11 reps, (aiming for 12), second 10, last one 6.


And that would be a push day for me, if i logged this incorrently or added too much info let me know lmao.


Cardio: Light steady-state cardio, usually around 45 minutes daily on the treadmill, walking speed.

Diet: Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat. 76kg currently, hoping to be around 70-71 kg, at 11-12% bodyfat in the rest of my 4 weeks of my deficit. This is a typical day of eating for me, sorry if some of the logs are in spanish, i eat many of my carbs pre-workout.
View attachment 129368View attachment 129392
If i'm not in a calorie deficit, i literally just add rice and beans to this diet, and remove the crackers/rice cakes, i end up eating around 2500-2600 comfortably for maintence and i feel great. I rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out. (The macro goals in MyFitnessPlan aren't exactly the same as mine, as i change them accordingly to how i feel, however they are mostly consistant).

When it comes to sleep, i usually sleep 7-8 hours, have lots of dreams, no issues.

Supplements: Only really suplement creatine protein shakes, and preworkout.

If you want to roll with a cycle that is up to you, just keep note of where your hormone levels are at. You want to keep that as your baseline, and you want to spend as much time off cycle as you can. This way you recover. @LiftingLarry

 

[BeMe]

I still very much so appreciate the advice, and i don't blame you at all for not supporting this decision, when it comes to fitness influencers, they def do portray an unhealthy way of living, and even if they don't do so intentionally they do glorify it. I would like to mention that PEDS is something that i've been tempted for years now, and it's not some random thing on impulse of "i wanna look better and get all the chicks hell yeah!" don't know how to explain it, but it's more than that, as ridiculous as it sounds. Does that make my decision any better? Probably not lmao but i'll try to do it as reasonably as i can.

I think you're just dealing with some level of body dysmorphia. We all have it. Your new back pics look great. Duno how you can down play yourself when you look awesome.

Bro look at top level college athletes. Guys playing d1 football heading for the NFL. They all look pretty much like you for the most part. Yes some bigger, a lot smaller, but most like you.

Then you see them a few years later in the NFL after training and getting older and they're huge. You're risking your long term health to look like you will anyway in a few years if you stay the course you're on.

Life decisions are tough to make when you're 21. You'll realize that when you're older. I know it just sounds like some old dude who doesn't understand. I'm young enough to remember how I woulda felt at 21 and I'd think the same. Hopefully you just make smart choices and don't end up with regrets.

 

[LevButlerov]

There are many examples here of this

Yes for sure.

 

[LiftingLarry]

Todays log: Oct 15th - 2025:

Had a very busy day today but i did manage to get a good workout in, training legs to failure and properly has been a challenge due to my back issues (and other inconviniences that i'm not going to get into), which has unfortunately made my previously best muscle group somewhat lackluster.

Leg day

Quads:

Bulgarian split squats: 3 sets with 90lb dumbells on each side, 8 first set, 6 on second, only 5 on third. One of the few exercises that allow me to press heavier weight without stressing my lower back at all.
Leg extension: 4 sets, 200lb, 15 reps. I go higher reps on this machine because i've managed to fullstack it a while ago, eventually i'll get a gym pin or start doing it unilateraly to keep progression strong.

Hamstrings:
My main hip hinge movement for these are back extensions, with the pad below my hip to assure it's mostly hamstrings and glutes working. I do 3 sets of 10 reps with 2 45 plates.
Seated hamstring curls: 3 sets with 200lb, 12 reps on first, 10 on second, 10 on last.

Calves:

Plate loaded seated calf raise: 3 sets 90lb, 10 reps
Calf raise in leg press (horizontal leg press) Do this one unilaterally, 70lb each side, aim for 3 sets 10 reps.

I also do hip adducter/abducter machine, but i always forget to log it.

I'm not worried about my legs lagging behind too much, i know i can add alot of mass to them quickly like i did in the past, it's just a matter of time.

 

[LiftingLarry]

I forgot to take a picture, i rarely use shorts so these are my legs without a pump, i'll keep working on em.

 

[RoySimpson]

Hello everyone, this is my first log, if any more info is required please let me know.

Age: 21
Height: 175 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Estimated bodyfat: 14-15%
Training experience: 4 years ish
Cycle history: None
Planned cycle: Testosterone cypionate 500 mg/week (Open to change!)
Planned duration: 16 weeks (Open to change!)
Ai on hand: Arimidex
Pct plan: Nolvadex (Not set in stone)
Current Bloodwork:

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Red Blood Cells (RBC)	5.18	x10⁶/µL	4.4 – 5.9
Hemoglobin (HGB)	16.0	g/dL	14.3 – 17.5
Hematocrit (HCT)	44.6	%	42.3 – 53.7
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV)	86.1	fL	77.0 – 94.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH)	30.9	pg	26.0 – 35.0
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC)	35.9	%	32.0 – 36.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-CV)	11.8	%	11.5 – 16.0
Red Cell Distribution Width (RDW-SD)	37.0	fL	29 – 46
Erythroblasts	0.0	%	—
Platelets	242	x10³/µL	150 – 500
Mean Platelet Volume (MPV)	10.2	fL	8.9 – 13.0

​

White Blood Cell Differential​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total WBC	6.8	x10³/µL	4.5 – 10.0
Neutrophils	39.1	%	40.0 – 75.0
Lymphocytes	48.7	%	20.0 – 45.0
Monocytes	7.8	%	2.0 – 10.0
Eosinophils	4.0	%	0.0 – 4.0
Basophils	0.3	%	0.0 – 1.0
Immature Granulocytes	0.1	%	0.0 – 2.0

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
AST (Aspartate Aminotransferase)	21	U/L	11 – 34
ALT (Alanine Aminotransferase / SGPT)	18	U/L	0 – 45 (Males)

Hormone Panel​

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Estradiol (E2)	<24	pg/mL	11 – 44 (Males)
FSH (Follicle-Stimulating Hormone)	1.13	mIU/mL	0.95 – 11.95 (Males)
LH (Luteinizing Hormone)	1.25	mIU/mL	0.57 – 12.07 (Males)
Albumin (Serum)	4.553	g/dL	3.5 – 5.0
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)	35.2	nmol/L	13.5 – 71.4 (Males)
Total Testosterone	18.02 nmol/L / 519.67 ng/dL	—	349 – 1009 ng/dL
Free Androgen Index	51.19	%	14.8 – 95.0
Calculated Free Testosterone (CFT)	1.96 % / 101.64 pg/mL	—	46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL (ages 18–69)
Bioavailable Testosterone	49.10 % / 255.16 ng/dL	—	110.0 – 575.0 ng/dL (ages 18–69)

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Total Cholesterol	154	mg/dL	<200
HDL Cholesterol	58	mg/dL	>40
Non-HDL Cholesterol (calculated)	96	mg/dL	<130
LDL Cholesterol (direct)	78	mg/dL	<116
Triglycerides	54	mg/dL	<150
Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio	2.6	—	<4.5
LDL / HDL Ratio	1.3	—	<3.5

Test	Result	Units	Reference Range
Prolactin	8.49 ng/mL	ng/mL	3.46 – 19.40 (Males)
	178.23	mIU/L	—

Program: Currently running push pull legs, standard, 6 days a week, i've tried many other splits but for me this is the most enjoyable one, with hypertrophy being the focus.

Today i did a "push" day and logged everything, heres what i did:

I'd also like to mention that i train nearly everything to failure, more so because i enjoy it alot even though i understand it could be counterproductive, so you will see my numbers dropping as the sets go on

Chest:
Incline bench press: 175lb for 3 sets (first set 10, second 8, last one 6)
Plate loaded chest press: 225lb for 2 sets (first set 12, second set 8)
Standard chest fly: Full stack (220 lb i'm pretty sure) Did this for 2 sets (First set 10, second set 9)

Shoulders:
Seated smith machine military press (i guess that would be the name?) 165 lb for 3 sets (first 12, second 10, last 9)
Cable lateral raises: 30 pounds (shit humbles you lol), 3 sets, all to 15 reps, def slowed down throughout the last

Triceps: Skull crushers with 70lb bar, for 3 sets, first 10, last 2 i managed to get 8.
Cable pushdowns: 144lb, did 3 sets, first 11 reps, (aiming for 12), second 10, last one 6.


And that would be a push day for me, if i logged this incorrently or added too much info let me know lmao.


Cardio: Light steady-state cardio, usually around 45 minutes daily on the treadmill, walking speed.

Diet: Aiming for 1700-1800 calories since i'm in a deficit, i personally found that for me agressive but shorter deficits work the best, especially since i'm not starting from a very high bodyfat. 76kg currently, hoping to be around 70-71 kg, at 11-12% bodyfat in the rest of my 4 weeks of my deficit. This is a typical day of eating for me, sorry if some of the logs are in spanish, i eat many of my carbs pre-workout.
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If i'm not in a calorie deficit, i literally just add rice and beans to this diet, and remove the crackers/rice cakes, i end up eating around 2500-2600 comfortably for maintence and i feel great. I rarely eat outside and everything is generally planned out. (The macro goals in MyFitnessPlan aren't exactly the same as mine, as i change them accordingly to how i feel, however they are mostly consistant).

When it comes to sleep, i usually sleep 7-8 hours, have lots of dreams, no issues.

Supplements: Only really suplement creatine protein shakes, and preworkout.

@LiftingLarry welcome to the forums! i will be following along for sure!

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

I forgot to take a picture, i rarely use shorts so these are my legs without a pump, i'll keep working on em.

@LiftingLarry good pic bro...nice start to the log.........

 

[HarleyGuy]

@LiftingLarry Great updating keep this going!

 

[HarleyGuy]

I think you're just dealing with some level of body dysmorphia. We all have it. Your new back pics look great. Duno how you can down play yourself when you look awesome.

Bro look at top level college athletes. Guys playing d1 football heading for the NFL. They all look pretty much like you for the most part. Yes some bigger, a lot smaller, but most like you.

Then you see them a few years later in the NFL after training and getting older and they're huge. You're risking your long term health to look like you will anyway in a few years if you stay the course you're on.

Life decisions are tough to make when you're 21. You'll realize that when you're older. I know it just sounds like some old dude who doesn't understand. I'm young enough to remember how I woulda felt at 21 and I'd think the same. Hopefully you just make smart choices and don't end up with regrets.

@LiftingLarry I agree with @BeMe. If you can stay natural as long as possible then the body dysmorphia is something to be embraced! Keep wanting more and going hard. You might be a lifetime natty or if you decide to cycle then you'll have waited for such a good base it will work 10 times better than those that just hop on.

 

[LiftingLarry]

@LiftingLarry Great updating keep this going!

I'll keep updating with whatever i can, yesterday was rough and i had to go to a different gym due to time concerns so my exercise selection was all over the place and didn't feel like logging it lmao, i'm still getting the diet on check so whenever i have that down i'll include it in my logs.

 

[BeMe]

I forgot to take a picture, i rarely use shorts so these are my legs without a pump, i'll keep working on em.

Damn man...u look like you're already running cycles. Nice seperation there.

 

[LiftingLarry]

Today's log:

I started with:
Back:

• Plate loaded chest supported low row: 2 sets 270lb for 11 reps on the first set, 9 on the second.
• Lat pulldowns with wide grip: for 3 sets 200lb got 10 reps on the first set, 9 on the second, 8 on the third this time.
• Machine Pullover: 3 Sets of 200lb, 12 first set, 10 on second, 8 on the third.
• Back extensions: i do these with a 45 pound plates and aim for 20 reps, 3 sets.
• Rear delt fly: 3 Sets, 122lb, Aimed for 10 reps

Biceps

• Barbell curl: 100lb, 3 sets, first set managed to get 10, second i got 8.
• Concentration curl: 35lb, 3 sets, 6 reps, 2 sets, i think i increased the weight too quickly, also felt very fatigued.
• Hammer curl 50lb, 2 sets, 10 reps on first, 8 on second.
  
  
  Here's my macros for the day (ignore myfitnesspal's goals i changed them accidently and don't feel like adjusting them i don't really follow them anyways)

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's log:

I started with:
Back:

• Plate loaded chest supported low row: 2 sets 270lb for 11 reps on the first set, 9 on the second.
• Lat pulldowns with wide grip: for 3 sets 200lb got 10 reps on the first set, 9 on the second, 8 on the third this time.
• Machine Pullover: 3 Sets of 200lb, 12 first set, 10 on second, 8 on the third.
• Back extensions: i do these with a 45 pound plates and aim for 20 reps, 3 sets.
• Rear delt fly: 3 Sets, 122lb, Aimed for 10 reps

Biceps

• Barbell curl: 100lb, 3 sets, first set managed to get 10, second i got 8.
• Concentration curl: 35lb, 3 sets, 6 reps, 2 sets, i think i increased the weight too quickly, also felt very fatigued.
• Hammer curl 50lb, 2 sets, 10 reps on first, 8 on second.
  
  
  Here's my macros for the day (ignore myfitnesspal's goals i changed them accidently and don't feel like adjusting them i don't really follow them anyways)

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strong day. The 270 lb chest supported row for 11/9 good weight, you strong!

Arms finished well with the 100 lb curls and 50 lb hammers, impressive arm pump I bet.

I like your macros, but lets move protein to 300 can you?

 

[LiftingLarry]

strong day. The 270 lb chest supported row for 11/9 good weight, you strong!

Arms finished well with the 100 lb curls and 50 lb hammers, impressive arm pump I bet.

I like your macros, but lets move protein to 300 can you?

I can def try, by next week i 100% can.

Also forgot to add picture, yeah the pump was awesome, carbed up before the workout.

 

[LevButlerov]

I can def try, by next week i 100% can.

Also forgot to add picture, yeah the pump was awesome, carbed up before the workout.

Lets try next week the protein bump
and you look good big pump! @LiftingLarry

 

[HarleyGuy]

Today's log:

I started with:
Back:

• Plate loaded chest supported low row: 2 sets 270lb for 11 reps on the first set, 9 on the second.
• Lat pulldowns with wide grip: for 3 sets 200lb got 10 reps on the first set, 9 on the second, 8 on the third this time.
• Machine Pullover: 3 Sets of 200lb, 12 first set, 10 on second, 8 on the third.
• Back extensions: i do these with a 45 pound plates and aim for 20 reps, 3 sets.
• Rear delt fly: 3 Sets, 122lb, Aimed for 10 reps

Biceps

• Barbell curl: 100lb, 3 sets, first set managed to get 10, second i got 8.
• Concentration curl: 35lb, 3 sets, 6 reps, 2 sets, i think i increased the weight too quickly, also felt very fatigued.
• Hammer curl 50lb, 2 sets, 10 reps on first, 8 on second.
  
  
  Here's my macros for the day (ignore myfitnesspal's goals i changed them accidently and don't feel like adjusting them i don't really follow them anyways)

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You're one strong mofo especially at your age bro!
I'd keep the protein above the carbs you're going hard enough that it'll get used.

 

[LevButlerov]

You're one strong mofo especially at your age bro!
I'd keep the protein above the carbs you're going hard enough that it'll get used.

VERY strong for sure

 

[LiftingLarry]

Hey guys i got really sick recently which hasn't happened in a while i'll keep updating whenever i feel better.

 

[Pigsy]

Strong young bull

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys i got really sick recently which hasn't happened in a while i'll keep updating whenever i feel better.

get well soon EVO family love your way

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey guys i got really sick recently which hasn't happened in a while i'll keep updating whenever i feel better.

Get well soon bro... antioxidants and water!

 

[LiftingLarry]

Hey guys, i'm back, it will be more of a quick little update than a full on log. I felt better over the weekend and trained chest today, lifts remained relatively the same, will post update pictures tomorrow.

Diet wise, i hit 286 grams of protein, 220 carbs, 64 grams of fats, sleep was pretty bad while i was sick but hopefully it will get better. I'm also approaching mid terms so i'll be tighter on time, i def don't want to start a cycle of any sorts until i finish this term (in around 8 weeks) since it's the last before i graduate with my bachelors.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys, i'm back, it will be more of a quick little update than a full on log. I felt better over the weekend and trained chest today, lifts remained relatively the same, will post update pictures tomorrow.

Diet wise, i hit 286 grams of protein, 220 carbs, 64 grams of fats, sleep was pretty bad while i was sick but hopefully it will get better. I'm also approaching mid terms so i'll be tighter on time, i def don't want to start a cycle of any sorts until i finish this term (in around 8 weeks) since it's the last before i graduate with my bachelors.

welcome back to the EVO family @LiftingLarry get back into the game we are waiting on you.

 

[Pigsy]

Welcome back brother, let's get working

 

[Allupfromhere]

This log gonna start to fire up now brother keep the momentum building
Welcome back

 

[LiftingLarry]

Today's log:

I started with:
Back:

• Plate loaded chest supported low row: 2 sets 270lb for 11 reps on the first set, 9 on the second.
• Lat pulldowns with wide grip: for 3 sets 200lb got 10 reps on the first set, 9 on the second, 8 on the third this time.
• Machine Pullover: 3 Sets of 200lb, 12 first set, 10 on second, 8 on the third.
• Back extensions: i do these with a 45 pound plates and aim for 20 reps, 3 sets.
• Rear delt fly: 3 Sets, 122lb, Aimed for 10 reps

Biceps

• Barbell curl: 100lb, 3 sets, first set managed to get 10, second i got 8.
• Concentration curl: 35lb, 3 sets, 6 reps, 2 sets, i think i increased the weight too quickly, also felt very fatigued.
• Hammer curl 50lb, 2 sets, 10 reps on first, 8 on second.
  
  
  Here's my macros for the day (ignore myfitnesspal's goals i changed them accidently and don't feel like adjusting them i don't really follow them anyways)

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From now on i will be replying to my logs following up with updates from each push/pull/leg day, that way it's easier to compare progress.

Todays log: Oct 28th - 2025:

Had a great back day in terms of pump today, it literally felt like my range of motion was limited due to it. My lifts remained relatively similar but it's not suprising since i was just sick not long ago, i really wish i had something else to add about today's training lol.

Here's my day of eating, carbs were a bit low.

 

[LevButlerov]

From now on i will be replying to my logs following up with updates from each push/pull/leg day, that way it's easier to compare progress.

Todays log: Oct 28th - 2025:

Had a great back day in terms of pump today, it literally felt like my range of motion was limited due to it. My lifts remained relatively similar but it's not suprising since i was just sick not long ago, i really wish i had something else to add about today's training lol.

Here's my day of eating, carbs were a bit low.

You look good in the pic, pumped I like the protein almost 300 you should have hit it! @LiftingLarry
and you should be getting a bit stronger imo on lifting

 

[LiftingLarry]

You look good in the pic, pumped I like the protein almost 300 you should have hit it! @LiftingLarry
and you should be getting a bit stronger imo on lifting

I for sure will get stronger just had to get past last week

 

[LevButlerov]

I for sure will get stronger just had to get past last week

EVO family support your way, lets do this! @LiftingLarry