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Starting HGH at 22?!!!!

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half.natty

Beginner Brother
-Stats-
Age: 22
Height: 5'8
Weight: 184lbs
BF: 10%

ujy65vfc
1st Cycle: 500mg Test-e
2nd: Test-p Winstrol
3rd: Test-e Superdrol
Then Started Blasting and cruising
Last Blast:
Test-p TrenA EQ Win Anavar

I know the first thing people will be saying is im too young to be taking AAS and jumping into HGH,
However since i have already taken the decision to do with the correct supervision of Doctor and regular bloodtests
ive been considering the following cycle for my first HGH cycle to take things to the next level.

HGH Jintropin Tapering to 5ius 5days on and 2 days off for 6 months
-3ius the first 1-2 months
-4ius months 2-3
-5ius months 3-6

Along with this i will be in a gaining phase and be using the following drugs to assist me:
Testosterone Cyp 300mg a week
Trenbolone Enthanate 200-300mg a week
Primobolan Enanthate 500mg a week
All with appropriate AIs
Running this for the 10-12 weeks then going back to a Cruise of 200mg Test-e

-Objection-
Im wanting to first recover my shoulder and knees which have been feeling like glass ever since taking winstrol cycle, looking into the affects and talking
to my doctor about the benefits of HGH to injuries i believe i will help the most as its been an on going issue.
Secondly of course i want to gain as much mass as possible in order to step on stage while still keeping my health and bloodwork in check

If there is anything you would recommend me doing please leave some advice, good or bad i appreciate it all.
 
half.natty said:
-Stats-
Age: 22
Height: 5'8
Weight: 184lbs
BF: 10%

ujy65vfc
1st Cycle: 500mg Test-e
2nd: Test-p Winstrol
3rd: Test-e Superdrol
Then Started Blasting and cruising
Last Blast:
Test-p TrenA EQ Win Anavar

I know the first thing people will be saying is im too young to be taking AAS and jumping into HGH,
However since i have already taken the decision to do with the correct supervision of Doctor and regular bloodtests
ive been considering the following cycle for my first HGH cycle to take things to the next level.

HGH Jintropin Tapering to 5ius 5days on and 2 days off for 6 months
-3ius the first 1-2 months
-4ius months 2-3
-5ius months 3-6

Along with this i will be in a gaining phase and be using the following drugs to assist me:
Testosterone Cyp 300mg a week
Trenbolone Enthanate 200-300mg a week
Primobolan Enanthate 500mg a week
All with appropriate AIs
Running this for the 10-12 weeks then going back to a Cruise of 200mg Test-e

-Objection-
Im wanting to first recover my shoulder and knees which have been feeling like glass ever since taking winstrol cycle, looking into the affects and talking
to my doctor about the benefits of HGH to injuries i believe i will help the most as its been an on going issue.
Secondly of course i want to gain as much mass as possible in order to step on stage while still keeping my health and bloodwork in check

If there is anything you would recommend me doing please leave some advice, good or bad i appreciate it all.
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That doesn't mean we're gonna go ahead and oblige you
 
do more research on how many guys doctors have fucked up. in fact hospitals are one of the most dangerous places you could go

not trying to be facetious here but doctors don't usually have your best interest at heart. if they did, they wouldn't let you use steroids in the first place.. and what good is monitoring blood work and all that? that would be like drinking cyanide and monitoring your vitals. i can tell you that your HPTA is going to be fucked up from doing this

i don't really buy into the whole 'i want to get on stage argument either'

i'm supposed to endorse your steroid use so you can get a trophy? to me that is absurd

you can still bodybuild at 22 years old without steroids ya know. in fact if you want to compete you would be more successful if you waited and then started using steroids in your 30's
 
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Any Doctor who takes his career seriously is not going to supervise that stuff. That is a malpractice suit in the waiting. BS
 
You guys are way too preachy, in my opinion. The guy doesn't meet all of your requirements for PED use so we immediately shun him?
 
Nismo99 said:
You guys are way too preachy, in my opinion. The guy doesn't meet all of your requirements for PED use so we immediately shun him?
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Bigger picture. For every person who asks a question and gets a reply there are sometimes 100's of views. Some are naturally ours and others 'bots'. But a great many are from the 100's of members we see listed when we click on the forum tab.

Now a bigger picture view suggests if we berate the foolish 12 (yes we had a 12 year old here once) to 25 year olds from using steroids we do a LOT more to help the 100's vs being seen to help one and give the wrong kind of message to those 100's.
 
Well here is my view of things. When I was 22 years old, I made a lot of really poor decisions. I think we all did. But they were mine to make and nobody was ever going to talk me out of it.

If someone has decided to use PED's we aren't going to talk them out of it. You are right, Mobster, then perhaps the lurkers will see your comments and this will dissuade them from using PED's at a young age. But now that that's been said, let's try to help this person to at least mitigate and the risks of using AAS's too soon.

To the OP, I'd ditch all the testosterone and AAS's and stick to that HGH. HGH does some really neat things long term at just about any reasonable age that could help you build a foundation for some growth several years down the road. The side effects of sensibly administered HGH are far less than steroids. Frankly, knowing what I know now, if I got go back into time (with a pile of cash)...I would have used HGH throughout my 20's.
 
Another bigger picture aspect worth a thought: legality. We know that for most of our members (US based) using roids is illegal. But, as far as we know, for the most part (if not entirely) only dealers, distributors and labs get busted. Do we want Evo to be the side that ends up in the media for encouraging teenagers?

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Nismo99 said:
Well here is my view of things. When I was 22 years old, I made a lot of really poor decisions. I think we all did. But they were mine to make and nobody was ever going to talk me out of it.

If someone has decided to use PED's we aren't going to talk them out of it. You are right, Mobster, then perhaps the lurkers will see your comments and this will dissuade them from using PED's at a young age. But now that that's been said, let's try to help this person to at least mitigate and the risks of using AAS's too soon.

To the OP, I'd ditch all the testosterone and AAS's and stick to that HGH. HGH does some really neat things long term at just about any reasonable age that could help you build a foundation for some growth several years down the road. The side effects of sensibly administered HGH are far less than steroids. Frankly, knowing what I know now, if I got go back into time (with a pile of cash)...I would have used HGH throughout my 20's.
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You can. By all means. I choose not to
 
Mobster said:
Another bigger picture aspect worth a thought: legality. We know that for most of our members (US based) using roids is illegal. But, as far as we know, for the most part (if not entirely) only dealers, distributors and labs get busted. Do we want Evo to be the side that ends up in the media for encouraging teenagers?

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You can. By all means. I choose not to
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Nobody said anything about teenagers. I think we have to draw the line somewhere. But this dude is 22 years old. He can buy a firearm, drink, probably about to graduate from college, etc. I consider that an adult that can make his own right or wrong decisions.

I will be the first one to "get preachy" if a 16 year old asks about using PED's. ;)
 
Nismo99 said:
You guys are way too preachy, in my opinion. The guy doesn't meet all of your requirements for PED use so we immediately shun him?
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as i've gotten older i have found it more and more absurd that 20 year olds are using steroids to win a plastic trophy. i get it, at that age you are trying to prove yourself to people and get attention. but the thing is my point is that you don't need to destroy your HPTA to bodybuild. that is the point i want to make to people.. and then people will say 'oh steve you can't win if you don't use steroids'.. and then i say again "win what? a fucking trophy?" why not bodybuild and get good at it and then once you get 25 or 30 then worry about steroids and if you still want to compete go for it? you would actually get further doing it that way.. hell I am almost 40 and i would argue i look better now than i ever did even when i was taking tren

this idea that you NEED steroids to weight train is getting absurd. steroids are just a tool. who is telling this guy not to weight train? in fact i am 100% for every single 15 year old to be required to take a weight lifting class in high school because weight training is very good for your health, bones, confidence, etc. and what you learn at 15 you can use in the future when you get a gym membership. it is a great tool
 
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Nismo99 said:
Nobody said anything about teenagers. I think we have to draw the line somewhere. But this dude is 22 years old. He can buy a firearm, drink, probably about to graduate from college, etc. I consider that an adult that can make his own right or wrong decisions.

I will be the first one to "get preachy" if a 16 year old asks about using PED's. ;)
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The line I'll stick at is 25. Draw yours where you wish.
 
I say the bar should be even higher for starting AAS, like until 30 years old. Most people have full matured and filled out by then, but I have seen some where they peak around that time. I personally did not start until I was over 30 and already had all the kids we wanted. If I had started at 22, it probably would have destroyed my life, or significantly altered it.


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Nismo, you already gave advice to a 19 year old, like you have a thing for kids

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1989 said:
you already gave advice to a 19 year old, like you have a thing for kids
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Too young. Wait atleast 6 more years

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Sorry not nismo, typo
 
1989 said:
Nismo, you already gave advice to a 19 year old, like you have a thing for kids

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Too young. Wait atleast 6 more years

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Sorry not nismo, typo
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I don't understand your syntax. Are you talking about me?
 
Im not saying that AAS use for a 19 year old (who in this context 1989 is most likely talking about me cause of my thread about sdrol) is the smartest thing to do but i find it insane that its shut down so quickly when brought up. Multiple people ive known in real life and online have ran AAS at 19 and most of them have recovered and kept there muscle. Granted i know someone who didnt recover until 6 months later and lost all his muscle because he idiotically ran a ph twice in a row and didnt pct, but i also know adults and have even seen people on this forum using tren ace or some shit who look horrible and/or havent recovered either.

The people who can do the months of research and run a cycle at 19 or so are the ones who ARE taking your opinions to heart and they are a small minority compared to the 80% of people at 19 who would run a ph, lift twice a week hitting arms, eat pizza postworkout everyday and not even come onto these forums because they couldnt care less about others experienced opinions.

If you truly dont want the younger generation to take AAS come at them with some reasoning on why they aren't ready instead of jumping to the conclusion that there an idiotic teen and will magically destroy there hpta. Whether they are or arent idiotic, you immediately lose there attention and make them wonder if there is even really a decent risk of permanent shutdown or if its just some parroted bs.
 
Turtleman198 said:
Im not saying that AAS use for a 19 year old (who in this context 1989 is most likely talking about me cause of my thread about sdrol) is the smartest thing to do but i find it insane that its shut down so quickly when brought up. Multiple people ive known in real life and online have ran AAS at 19 and most of them have recovered and kept there muscle. Granted i know someone who didnt recover until 6 months later and lost all his muscle because he idiotically ran a ph twice in a row and didnt pct, but i also know adults and have even seen people on this forum using tren ace or some shit who look horrible and/or havent recovered either.

The people who can do the months of research and run a cycle at 19 or so are the ones who ARE taking your opinions to heart and they are a small minority compared to the 80% of people at 19 who would run a ph, lift twice a week hitting arms, eat pizza postworkout everyday and not even come onto these forums because they couldnt care less about others experienced opinions.

If you truly dont want the younger generation to take AAS come at them with some reasoning on why they aren't ready instead of jumping to the conclusion that there an idiotic teen and will magically destroy there hpta. Whether they are or arent idiotic, you immediately lose there attention and make them wonder if there is even really a decent risk of permanent shutdown or if its just some parroted bs.
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ask our moderator muskate on here about that.

and how do you know your friends aren't having problems? unless you play pork swords with them you think they are going to be honest about dick problems? also if you never even had sex how would you know if you have dysfunctions? the reality is you guys have had hair on your balls for 2 months and you think you are ready for steroids.. it just boggles the mind
 
Mobster said:
Not me - him. I've not used since June and won't until maybe October 2019
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Uh, okay. But my comment "That's because, unlike we Americans, you, Mobster, are a citizen of a far more sane and humane society" was written in response to your statement that...

Mobster said:
I've got a doctor supervising my drug use but I'll ask guys on a forum for advice.
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^^^ mobster was pretending to be the OP in that post.

you read what he wrote wrong.

the OP said that he had a doctor supervising his use. so mobster was like jabbing him making the point of why would you ask people on a forum for advice when you are going through a doctor.. he was basically calling out the fib
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ mobster was pretending to be the OP in that post.

you read what he wrote wrong.

the OP said that he had a doctor supervising his use. so mobster was like jabbing him making the point of why would you ask people on a forum for advice when you are going through a doctor.. he was basically calling out the fib
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Oh, now I get it. That'll teach me to read threads in their entirety ... or will it?
Thank you, Steve.
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ mobster was pretending to be the OP in that post.

you read what he wrote wrong.

the OP said that he had a doctor supervising his use. so mobster was like jabbing him making the point of why would you ask people on a forum for advice when you are going through a doctor.. he was basically calling out the fib
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Exactly so. A qualified medical pro vs a bunch of keen and informed amateurs
 
At only 22, I wouldn't mess around with HGH.

I would look into HGH secretagogues like nutrobal or GHRP peptides instead
 
stevesmi said:
ask our moderator muskate on here about that.

and how do you know your friends aren't having problems? unless you play pork swords with them you think they are going to be honest about dick problems? also if you never even had sex how would you know if you have dysfunctions? the reality is you guys have had hair on your balls for 2 months and you think you are ready for steroids.. it just boggles the mind
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Ive had trouble with my pork sword in the past even before aas with girls cause of what i believe to be subconcious anxiety performance issues so i didnt have much to lose haha. I mean the guys are pretty honest in terms of sides, the dude that took ph's had a broken dick for 6 months. Other guys get raging hard ons apparently.
 
Love this thread, sometimes tough honesty is needed to set someone on the right path. I wish I knew you guys when I was 18, bought some dbol not knowing shit but broscience from the dude that sold me it. Blew up like a balloon thought I was getting big, ended up gaining a bunch of fat and the start of gyno. And lost the “muscle”Also agree with muskate nutrobal is a much safer gh, even prescribed by drs. It’s legit. I come here for the truth, no broscience(BS) here.
 
Turtleman198 said:
Ive had trouble with my pork sword in the past even before aas with girls cause of what i believe to be subconcious anxiety performance issues so i didnt have much to lose haha. I mean the guys are pretty honest in terms of sides, the dude that took ph's had a broken dick for 6 months. Other guys get raging hard ons apparently.
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dude come on, you realize it is normal for teens to have anxiety around women.

the jocks and 'tough guys' at that age get the chicks.. when you get older those are the guys in prison or who are broke with 3 kids. once you get older, educate yourself and have a good job your confidence will go high.. the answer isn't steroids
 
I just don’t get why no one wants to put the time in these days the younger generation just always want the fast easy fast track .

Let good old time get you to your goals that’s the fun part in life . Not to just get to the end result.

At 22 I think it’s more safe taking gear then being in a bar every night getting wasted forsure . Fuck man just work natural your 22 why not just see what you can make of your self with out gear .

But just shows how main stream gear is now even people that don’t lift take the shit now .
It’s all over Hollywood fake natties .

Missing out on all the great natural gains in the gym at that age . You could train hard and heavy and look almost the same with out any of that stuff.


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