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Tren E / Test E / Dbol cycle

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I'm experienced and decided after much research, to do a Tren cycle. I'm on day 12, I know it's very early but I thought I'd ask a question and share some things. Currently my only notable side effect is night sweats, which is fine. Normal aggression, nothing out of the ordinary. Thinking maybe I need to adjust quantity somewhere. Any insight is appreciated. Currently running;
Tren E 250mg x2 weekly
Test E 400mg x2 weekly
Dbol 50mg daily ( for first 6 weeks ).
 
Mostly I'm asking because I feel like the side effects are little to none so far. Thought maybe I needed to adjust something. With all the things people say about tren, I have expected to just be full rage mode all the time, and I'm not. Just standard irritable lol.


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You have to remember with Tren E, you have the Enanthate Ester.
With a 10.5 Day Half-Life.
It takes any Hormone between 4 and 5 Half-Lives to reach Peak Blood Plasma Levels.

So at only 12 Days in, you have a way to go before All the Side's will be noticeable.......................... JP
 
Ur tren isn't all the way kicked in yet. Personally I like ur bulk cycle. I think u will blow the hell up as long as ur diet and training are on point. I used to make my own tren a and the only really harsh side effects for me was heart burn n insomnia.
 
jp4355 said:
You have to remember with Tren E, you have the Enanthate Ester.
With a 10.5 Day Half-Life.
It takes any Hormone between 4 and 5 Half-Lives to reach Peak Blood Plasma Levels.

So at only 12 Days in, you have a way to go before All the Side's will be noticeable.......................... JP
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Wow, not sure how I could have missed this information with the months of reading I did. Thanks a lot for the input. See, this is why "D's get degrees ". lol.


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Inhuman2012 said:
Ur tren isn't all the way kicked in yet. Personally I like ur bulk cycle. I think u will blow the hell up as long as ur diet and training are on point. I used to make my own tren a and the only really harsh side effects for me was heart burn n insomnia.
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My diet I get lazy on. Not in the way of eating unhealthy foods. But I don't eat enough protein / calories in general. I have all my beginning numbers written down so I'll report gains afterwards :). Thanks for the input


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Kaustin said:
yes yes sorry thought you meant something else. I suppose then why the laugh emoji? Can you elaborate? I asked for advice.


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That's a hefty dose for a first tren cycle. That's why the laugh. While ace is usually recommended for a first tren cycle for certain reasons I'm also starting my first tren blast with enanthate but at 400mg. I've never been side effects prone but tren is a different beast. I even considered 360mg

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You are using very large dosages for a first cycle with tren.

Remember that an enanthate ester has a half life of 10.5days. It's not until week 6-7 of your cycle that the steroids will reach full blood hormone levels. You might not be experiencing any side effects now but I suspect they will start to creep up on you fast.

A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

Cardarine isn't talked about much as a support for a cycle with tren but it is fantastic for preventing tren related side effects. Tren is notorious for negatively impacting endurance and causing insulin resistance. Cardarine helps prevent that immensely.
 
muskate said:
You are using very large dosages for a first cycle with tren.

Remember that an enanthate ester has a half life of 10.5days. It's not until week 6-7 of your cycle that the steroids will reach full blood hormone levels. You might not be experiencing any side effects now but I suspect they will start to creep up on you fast.

A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI like aromasin to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

Cardarine isn't talked about much as a support for a cycle with tren but it is fantastic for preventing tren related side effects. Tren is notorious for negatively impacting endurance and causing insulin resistance. Cardarine helps prevent that immensely.
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Would you recommend a change in dosage? I suppose I could cut to 200ml x2 weekly. I'm also not side effect prone but understandably people do refer to tren as quite different.


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Kaustin said:
Would you recommend a change in dosage? I suppose I could cut to 200ml x2 weekly. I'm also not side effect prone but understandably people do refer to tren as quite different.


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I would reduce the dbol to 0.. I do not like dbol stacked in that cycle. anavar and tbol are much better options

and i would halve your test and tren doses.

if you aren't on n2guard yet, i would get on ASAP. the sides are going to hit you hard in the next week or two and so will the heart strain and domino side effects
 
stevesmi said:
I would reduce the dbol to 0.. I do not like dbol stacked in that cycle. anavar and tbol are much better options

and i would halve your test and tren doses.

if you aren't on n2guard yet, i would get on ASAP. the sides are going to hit you hard in the next week or two and so will the heart strain and domino side effects
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Any personal experience with n2guard vs other liver protection products? Just curious since it's nearly 3x the cost as more of a base liver care product.


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I completely agree with lowering the doses. Test and Tren that high will be really bad around week 4 on for side effects. I would do test 300mg-500mg and tren 200mg-300mg per week.

N2Guard is far superior because it is much more than just a liver product. It contains 43 ingredients. Just compare it to any other product out there.
 
Masonic Bodybuilder said:
I completely agree with lowering the doses. Test and Tren that high will be really bad around week 4 on for side effects. I would do test 300mg-500mg and tren 200mg-300mg per week.

N2Guard is far superior because it is much more than just a liver product. It contains 43 ingredients. Just compare it to any other product out there.
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Alright I'll do that. Hopefully I'm early on enough to not get too terrible of side effects after I lower it. It's so different from other cycles that when you see that .2/.3 ready to go, it seems so minuscule. But understanding the product helps to know why it's that way. Can't thank you guys enough for the advice. Keep up the good work fellas.


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Kaustin said:
Any personal experience with n2guard vs other liver protection products? Just curious since it's nearly 3x the cost as more of a base liver care product.


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Because it has more than 3x of the ingredients than in most of the products. In the end you get all-in-one supplement for everything.

As for the tren dosages - I would cut it down to 400mg/week. 800 will be too much, trust me.
 
500mg test e with AI and tren e 200mg with caber would be fine.....you should take tren seriously ......yes n2gurd is a king of livergurd
 
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