Var & Clen cycle

[bahamasri]

Hello guys,

Im new here and new to the steroid world,,,, so in a brief, I've been working out ever since i was 18 (on and Off) Im 29 now and thinking of starting a var & clen cycle to polish my gains haha

1.9CM
84KG
16% body Fat

Q1: Whats the best way to run them togther

Q2: Do i need a PCT for the test levels?? and how should i take it?

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

 

[jp4355]

OK, so you are 185 Lbs and 3/4 of an Inch Tall (lol).
I think you mean 1.9 Meters and Not Centimeters.
Which puts you around 6'2" tall.

Var and Clen would be a Terrible combination for a 1st time user.

You are much better off with a Test Only Cycle for your 1st Cycle............................... JP
P.S.
You can make some Keep-able gains.

Anavar will Shut you down, so you will need to do a PCT either way.
Might as well make it worth the bother.

 

[bahamasri]

Would HGH do the needed?

Then take those^^^

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Would HGH do the needed?

Then take those^^^

In a word - no. Is this going to be your first cycle?

 

[jp4355]

Would HGH do the needed?

Then take those^^^

If you can get HGH from a Pharmacy, via a Doctor's Prescription, then do it.

The Bulk of the HGH on the Black Market is either Total Bunk, or Severely Underdosed.
Then add in that you need at least a 6 Month Supply to even begin to see results.
And you have a Recipe for Disaster................................... JP
P.S.
A Test Only Cycle would be your best option, out of everything mentioned.

Take some time, and read the Articles, under the Headings.
At the Top of the Page, in the Black Border.
This way, you will understand what you are getting into.

 

[bahamasri]

Yes first cycle... and i already got the var n clen from keifei.

Ive been doing bodybuilding for more than 10 years

I wanna take the products with least side effects.

Also i want to knw how the pct should be taken amd dosages depending on wut i take.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Yes first cycle... and i already got the var n clen from keifei.

Ive been doing bodybuilding for more than 10 years

I wanna take the products with least side effects.

Also i want to knw how the pct should be taken amd dosages depending on wut i take.

Then you should run a test'-only cycle: 500mgs of either test' e or test' c per week (two injections of 250mgs per week for 10-12 weeks); 12.5mgs of aromasin EOD; and a four week PCT in the following manner:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

 

[jp4355]

Yes first cycle... and i already got the var n clen from keifei.

Ive been doing bodybuilding for more than 10 years

I wanna take the products with least side effects.

Also i want to knw how the pct should be taken amd dosages depending on wut i take.

If you are looking for a product with the Least Amount of Side Effects.
Then you should Drop the Clen, as the Side Effects can be Severe for little gain.
You are Better off getting your Diet all squared away, as this will have More Impact then Clen.

If you are determined to do the Anavar.
A Good Cycle for Anavar would be 20 Mg AM and 20 Mg PM, due to it's Short Half-Life of 9 Hours.
40 Mg a day is sufficient if your Var is good, I'm not familiar with Keifei, only Kefei the HGH maker.
You don't want to go past 6 Weeks, as Anavar is a Strain on both the Liver and Kidneys.

This PCT is for Oral Cycle's, Muskate put this together......................... JP

Followed by a mini PCT to restore natural testosterone production.
4 weeks of the following:
clomid at 25mg/day
nolvadex at 20mg/day
A good natural liver aid supplement like N2guard - 1 serving/day
A good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES - 1 serving/day

 

[Eddie Haskell]

...you should Drop the Clen, as the Side Effects can be Severe for little gain.

Yes, if nothing else, drop that methamphetamine-like crap known as clen' down the nearest toilet.

 

[bahamasri]

Pct always after im done with the cycle?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Pct always after im done with the cycle?

Yes. Most often, PCT begins two weeks after the conclusion of a cycle.


Out!

 

[bahamasri]

Thanks you guys!! Much appreciated

 

[Derek Wilson]

You are most welcome!

 

[Mobster]

Hello guys,

Im new here and new to the steroid world,,,, so in a brief, I've been working out ever since i was 18 (on and Off) Im 29 now and thinking of starting a var & clen cycle to polish my gains haha

1.9CM
84KG
16% body Fat

Q1: Whats the best way to run them togther

Q2: Do i need a PCT for the test levels?? and how should i take it?

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

You need to add more muscle, not polish. I'm 190cm and 127kg. And get the body fat down a little (sub 12) before going on cycle

 

[Eddie Haskell]

You need to add more muscle, not polish. I'm 190cm and 127kg. And get the body fat down a little (sub 12) before going on cycle

I quite agree. Remember, bahamasri, the more body fat one carries the more susceptible to estrogen-related side-effects one becomes (i.e., bloating). Remember too that estrogen is a carcinogen ( http://www.cumc.columbia.edu/publications/in-vivo/Vol2_Iss10_may26_03/ ). So you want to keep it at an absolute bare minimum.

 

[stevesmi]

Pct always after im done with the cycle?

if you want to have a soft landing, keep your motivation, keep your strength, keep your muscle, keep away fat, then yea pct. if you just want to lose everything and risk losing your sex drive then skip PCT no problem. the choice is yours

 

[muskate]

In my opinion, the PCT is even more important then the cycle itself. What good is a cycle if you get awesome results but don't keep any of them?

Not keeping the majority of the gains you made on your steroid cycle is usually the result of:
1. Not running a proper PCT after your steroid cycle.
2. Not training and eating with the same intensity after the cycle as you did on cycle.

What put the muscle on the first place is what will keep it there after your PCT - HARD training and a high protein diet.

A proper PCT ensures your natural testosterone production fully recovers and that you keep the majority of the gains you made on your steroid cycle. The perfect PCT article explains how to properly run a PCT after your cycle -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

If you want the least side effects then stay far far away from clen! It is the worst for nasty sides.

I agree with test only. Keep it simple for your first cycle.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

In my opinion, the PCT is even more important then the cycle itself. What good is a cycle if you get awesome results but don't keep any of them?

Not keeping the majority of the gains you made on your steroid cycle is usually the result of:
1. Not running a proper PCT after your steroid cycle.
2. Not training and eating with the same intensity after the cycle as you did on cycle.

What put the muscle on the first place is what will keep it there after your PCT - HARD training and a high protein diet.

A proper PCT ensures your natural testosterone production fully recovers and that you keep the majority of the gains you made on your steroid cycle. The perfect PCT article explains how to properly run a PCT after your cycle -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html

"PCT Is Even More Important Than the Cycle Itself" should be emblazoned upon t-shirts, sweatshirts and sweatpants everywhere.

 

[AllianceP]

var? clen? No test? your shutting your nuts down. get some test in their. also im on clen now and i feel like shit./ maybe im taking too much 100mcg a day? fme