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Hello everyone… This is a small intro to the wonderful world of SARMS, brought to you by your resident SARMS expert, Dylan Gemelli. In this article, I will touch on facts about these interesting drugs, and hopefully provide answers to the many questions that you may have....
Chemical Structure of SARMS
What EXACTLY are SARMS?
The term SARMS stands for "Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators." Let's break this phrase down piece by piece. First, Androgens:
Androgens are a class of hormones that serve as ligands that bind to cellular androgen receptors. The androgen receptor is involved in a complex signal transduction pathway that ultimately results in greater expression of specific genes. In simple terms, androgens help you build muscle.
All anabolic steroids and prohormones offer their muscle building properties through this binding to the androgen receptor.
Second, Selective Modulators:
A drug that can either block or stimulate the same nuclear hormone receptor under different conditions is called a selective receptor modulator. If it can block or stimulate a receptor in a tissue selective manner, it may be able to mimic the beneficial effects in one tissue and, at the same time, minimize the unwanted effects of the natural or synthetic steroidal hormones in other tissues. In layman terms, it can selectively grow muscles without the side effects.
SARMS
SARMS offer the benefits of traditional Anabolic Androgenic Steroids such as testosterone (including increased muscle mass, fat loss, and bone density), all the while, giving the user no unwanted side effects that come with steroids.
SARMS are not new, they have been around for over 10 years. However, they are a unique class of compounds currently undergoing investigation and development from a number of pharmaceutical companies.
SARMS vs. Steroids
Steroids have typically been prescribed in medicine for two distinct reasons:
- Muscle wasting diseases ranging from cancer to osteoporosis
- Hormone replacement therapy (HRT)
The problems with anabolic steroids or testosterone replacement therapy arise from their undesirable side effects. Steroids target all cells, good and bad. They'll grow your muscles, which will include your heart muscle, and they will hurt your prostate. Steroids can also make you lose your hair, and have small balls.
On the other hand, SARMS are completely different. They are able to stimulate receptors in a tissue selective manner, (in our case, selective to bone and muscle). It is possible to mimic the beneficial effects of androgen activation in muscles (grow muscles), and, at the same time, minimize the unwanted effects of the natural or synthetic steroidal hormones in other tissues. In simple terms, grow big muscles and lose fat without the side effects of steroids.
It is this unique trait that makes these receptor modulators able to selectively cause muscle growth, while reducing or eliminating unwanted secondary side effects.
Hence, pharmaceutical companies are currently looking to SARMS as an alternative to prescribed steroids.
#SARMS are safer than steroids and have less side effects. SARMS will help you gain muscle mass, but SARMS can also be suppressive if abused
— Evolutionary.org (@evolutionaryorg) January 14, 2017
Several global pharmaceutical companies are currently investigating, analyzing and testing potential SARMS. There are hundreds of possible SARMS out there, but there are 7 main SARMS (or SARMS-related compounds) currently available and most applicable to bodybuilders, fitness enthusiasts, and athletes. These drugs have many user accounts, reviews and logs on the internet: (I linked the below for further reading)
- Ostabolic (MK-2866/Ostarine)
- Anabolicum (LGD-4033)
- Andarine (S-4)
- Cardarine (GW)
- Nutrobal (MK677)
- Stenabolic (SR9009)
- Testolone (RAD140)
Many of you will ask why Cardarine (GW-501516) is listed as a SARM. It often gets classified as a SARM and is normally run in a "Sarms Triple Stack"; however, technically, Cardarine (GW) is not a SARM. GW-501516 is actually a PPAR receptor agonist as opposed to a selective androgen receptor modulators. I will go into more detail about this in a later article.
Cardarine (GW) Bottle - SARMS1
Another known "SARM-wannabe" is Nutrobal (MK-677), but it is not nearly as popular as Ostarine and S4, and it's not a SARM (just like cardarine is not a sarm). Though, nutrobal is misclassified as a SARM many times on many forums, it is actually a growth hormone secretagogue. Meaning, it makes your body release growth hormone naturally. It's literally growth hormone in a bottle!
Nutrobal MK677
Why are SARMS beneficial?
As stated previously, the problems with anabolic steroids are due to the harsh and nasty side effects that they have.
These are just some of the steroid side effects:
- Potential stimulation of prostate cancer
- Male pattern baldness
- Acne
- Body hair growth
- Gynecomastia (male breast development)
- High blood pressure
- Liver toxicity
- Cholesterol imbalance
- Left Ventricular Hypertrophy (Heart growth)
- Shutdown of your own Testosterone production
The above side effects are because anabolic steroids stimulate all receptors, they don't pick and choose where to give you results or where to give you problems. On the other hand, SARMS stimulate the androgen receptor in only muscle tissue and bone. As a result, this can prevent most if not all of the harsh side effects of steroids.
SARMS offer the potential for harnessing the benefits of steroid use whilst minimizing the undesirable side effects. They also have the potential advantages of oral dosing, which testosterone and all injectable steroids do not.
SARMS for Bodybuilders?
For the bodybuilder, gym user, fitness enthusiast, and athlete SARMS can be used either in conjunction with or as a replacement for traditional anabolics. Here are just some of the wonderful things SARMS can do for you:
- Increase Lean muscle growth
- Prevent muscle loss during cutting/weight loss
- Boost Injury rehabilitation
- Decrease Post-training recovery times
- Help recover after cycle by adding to PCT
- Increase fat loss
- Increase endurance
- Decrease fatigue
SARMS benefits when compared to steroids:
- Oral (no injections needed)
- Similar positive effects to testosterone (libido, strength gains, fat loss etc…)
- No conversion to Dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
- No conversion to Estrogen
- No harsh liver toxicity from methylated compounds
- Does not inhibit your HPTA to the large extent of steroids (no large reduction in LH or FSH)
- Legal
- Undetectable (select SARMS), as of 2016 - 90% of SARMS are detectable by WADA.
SARMS of interest
As previously mentioned, the 3 SARMs of most interest to users should Ostabolic (Ostarine/MK-2866) , Anabolicum (LGD) and Andarine (S-4). These are both commercially available in liquid suspension as research chemicals.
They have both undergone clinical testing by GTx and also have many cases of positive feedback by gym goers from forums and message boards across the internet.
However, my favorite SARMS are Cardarine (GW) and Nutrobal (MK677). Cardarine is an amazing fat loss aid and nutrobal is like oral HGH in a bottle. They work amazingly when stacked! My third favorite SARM is a stack of stenabolic (SR9009) and testolone (RAD140).
Utilizing SARMS
There are several possible ways to utilize SARMS. I am a firm believer that the most effective and efficient use of SARMS is in a stand-alone SARMS cycle. For example, the triple-stack with Ostabolic, Cardarine, and Andarine.
Another good use of SARMS is as a bridge in between steroid cycles. Using them in this manner allows a user to have a much easier time keeping and/or adding to gains made on previous cycles. SARMS make you feel great and take your mind away from the feeling you have when coming "off". Many users report feeling even better on SARMS than they do on a normal steroid cycle. The "bridge" is their most effective use.
SARMS Cycles
Bulking
The typical user looking for lean mass gains would be suited to using Ostabolic for 8-12 weeks at a dose of about 25mg per day, stacked with Andarine 25mgs ED and Testolone 10mgs/ED. This will typically produce 6-12lbs or 3-6kg keepable gains in lean mass. SARMS are not best utilized in this manner, but it is possible to put on a very clean and keepable amount of size.
Sample SARMS Bulking Cycle:
Week 1-12
- Andarine (S4) 25mgs/ED
- Ostabolic (ostarine) 25mgs/ED
- Testolone (RAD) 10mgs/ED
Cutting
The typical user looking to cut body fat while retaining lean mass gains would be suited to using S4 for 8-12 weeks at a dose of 25mgs, stacked with Cardarine 20mgs/ed and Steanbolic 20mgs/ed. This will produce excellent cutting effects.
USER WARNING: Since S-4 shows a greater binding affinity to the receptor in the eye, keep the dose 25-50mgs range and don't go higher. Always start slow at 25mgs per day for at least 4 weeks.
Andarine demonstrates fat burning effects in addition to maintenance of muscle mass. S-4 also shows a decrease in LPL (lipoprotein lipase) which is an enzyme that causes lipid accumulation. Stacking Andarine and Cardarine+Stenabolic provides the best SARMS cutting cycle.
Sample SARMS Cutting Cycle:
Week 1-12
- Andarine (S4) 25mgs/ED
- Cardarine (GW) 20mgs/ED
- Stenabolic (SR) 20mgs/ED
Strength
Andarine (S4) is also similar to many of the DHT derived steroids in that effect of strength gains rise at a higher proportion than mass gains. So if you’re looking to experience and increase in strength without a large in increase in weight, S4 again used for 8-12 weeks at doses of 25-50ms stacked with Anabolicum (LGD) will produce excellent results. Once again, the triple stack will provide the best results.
Sample SARMS Strength Cycle:
Week 1-12
- Andarine (S4) 25mgs/ED
- Anabolicum (LGD) 10mgs/ED
- Cardarine (GW) 20mgs/ED
Recomp
The recomping effect of losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time is what the majority of users are looking for.
Ostabolic (Ostarine mk2866) with its anabolic and nutrient partitioning effects is ideal for such a goal and a dosing protocol of 12.5-25mg for 8-12 weeks will give excellent recomp effects. Stacking with Andarine S-4 as well as Cardarine GW will be excellent for a recomp as well. The beauty of SARMS is they are multifaceted in their use. Your diet and training will dictate the results, but there are many options that are possible with them.
Sample SARMS Recomp Cycle:
Week 1-12
- Ostabolic (ostarine) 25mgs/ED
- Anabolicum (LGD) 10mgs/ED
- Cardarine (GW) 20mgs/ED
- Stenabolic (SR) 10mgs/ED
- Andarine (S4) 25mgs/ED
Summary
Although many believe SARMS are still at an early stage of development, nothing could be further from the truth. SARMS have been around in our bodybuilding industry for over 10 years. The potential for SARMS is very high, evident by the number of pharmaceutical firms currently developing different these drugs.
Summary of SARMS benefits
- HPTA suppression is non-existent to minimal.
- High oral bioavailabilty without significant damage to your liver compared with oral steroids/prohormones.
- Anabolic even at low doses
- Great for strength
- Great for lean mass gains
- Great for body recomposition
- Great for endurance (aerobic or anaerobic)
- Joint healing abilities
January, 2017 Update
SARMS Detection Time
Currently, the detection times of SARMS is a hotly debated topic. Many athletes don't know how SARMS are tested for or how long they will stay in their system. I've done a lot of research on the topic and have come up with some answers. I will try to make this as simple as possible for you guys.
How are SARMS detected?
In simple terms, anti-doping laboratories create metabolites of SARMS. In the case of one study done by the European Journal of Mass Spectrometry, it was LG121071, a cousin of LGD-4033, that was broken down into metabolites for testing. A metabolite is a molecule that is produced by metabolizing a substance. Think of it as a "digested" version of the original product.
After they created metabolites in a petri dish (literally created in a lab), they were able to detect these same metabolites in human urine. How? The urine was tested with a liquid-chromatography mass spectrometer. This allowed them to detect the metabolite in the urine and bust the athlete.
What are the detection times for SARMS?
The detection times from SARM to SARM are variable and hard to understand. While ostarine (mk-2866) has a half life of 24 hours, the full detection times are unknown. The same can be said about Andarine (S-4) and Cardarine (GW-501516). No matter how many studies I read, I couldn't come up with the actual time. Therefore, I will suggest the following (what you do is up to you), use caution when using SARMS and like anything weigh the risks.
My opinion, based on the athletes busted for using SARMS and clients I've worked with is that Ostarine/Andarine/Cardarine detection times are around 8 weeks, give or take a week. However, if your life depends on tested, I suggest you stop SARMS 12 weeks out from a drug test. In addition, always do a full detox before any drug test.
Here is a list of studies you can read to help you further research detection times:
- http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/48/10/820.full
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23650030
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20355219
SARM S-23 Dangers
2017 UPDATED
SARM S-23 was developed by Gtx pharmaceuticals, the same company that brought us mk-2866. S-23 has very high androgen receptor binding, but it has some major downfalls and side effects. First, it has not shown in studies to build muscle in humans. Second, all the studies on S-23 lead to the conclusion that it suppresses natural testosterone levels to a point that you can't produce sperm. Lastly, on the forums bodybuilders have ran logs with S-23 and noticed very little bodybuilding-related results.
In fact, I recommend that bodybuilders and athletes stay away from SARM S-23 because it's dangerous and requires PCT that's months (over 3 months) long. In fact, some users might be shut down for life. So, you should be very careful and avoid this SARM.
#SARMS S-23 is dangerous for bodybuilders. It can shut down your testosterone production for months without any good effects. Stay away!
— Evolutionary.org (@evolutionaryorg)
href="https://twitter.com/evolutionaryorg/status/820602624437288960">January 15, 2017
Forums
Would you like to know what over 100,000 users and myself think about SARMS? read about them on our evolutionary forums...
- SARMs Detection times?
- SARMS Detection Times for an Athlete
- Sarms for females
- ECA + SARMS (deadly or no)
- Questions on SARMS bulking
- Sarms on days off?
- SARMs cycle for a fat guy
- sarms and temper
- SARMs and alcohol
- Thoughts on 6 week oral cycles + SARMS
- First Time SARM Stack Advice
- Anti Gyno Cycle + The Power of SARMS: Getting rid of my gyno for good!
- SARMS1 vs SARMSX
Videos
Here are just some of my SARMS youtube videos:
References
- Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) - Current Knowledge and Clinical Applications
- Development of Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs)
- Development of Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs)
- Selective androgen receptor modulators: the future of androgen therapy?
- Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators: Current Knowledge and Clinical Applications
- Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators: Current Knowledge and Clinical Applications
sarmsnewbie
I’m new to sarms, this is my 1st sarms run. Do I stack cardarine with andarine or with ostarine? I’m confused.
Dylan Gemelli
If this is your first sarms cycle, don’t worry, start slow. I suggest the combination of Cardarine (GW501516) 20mgs/ED and Ostabolic (mk2866/ostarine) 50mgs/ED. You can follow this up with a mini-sarms pct. You don’t need to go heavy, 10-12 weeks is a good cycle. Another option is for you to use the sarms triple stack, cardarine/andarine/anabolicum or cardarine/andarine (S4)/osta.
The choice is up to you but the triple stack gives way more results.
jojobigs
What’s better for fat loss, cardarine (GW) or ostabolic (mk2866)? Looking for stamina and fat loss. I’m 25 year old training 5 times per week, using creatine/protein now.
Dylan Gemelli
Cardarine and Ostabolic should be stacked for best fat loss.
Week 1-12
Cardarine GW 20mgs/ED
OStabolic (ostarine) 25mgs/ED
HCGenerate 5 tabs/ED
Albert Wolfgang
Stack Cardarine GW @ 20mgs per day with Ostabolic (MK) at 25mgs per day, add some testolone (RAD) 10mgs per day and 3 caps hcgenerate. That’s a hardcore cutting run and will give you no side effects, especially compared to steroids.
bloatedbig
I heard andarine s4 has vision side effects I’m worried. If I get andarine how do I minimize the vision side effects and would that impact me in the long term? Like long term vision problems?
also, how can I avoid the vision sides with andarine?
Dylan Gemelli
In some cases, there are vision side effects from andarine. That’s why I suggest you start slow at 25mgs ED and move up 12.5mgs every 1 week. Feel out your dose. Best suggestion to minimize andarine s4 vision side effects is to low dose it and stack with cardarine. For example, 25mgs andarine s4 per day and 20mgs cardarine per day.
Albert Wolfgang
Try using the andarine (S4) 5 days on, 2 days off. I found that makes most of the vision sides go away. The side effects with vision are NOT permanent, they are temporary only during the time you use s4. After you discontinue, the sides go away.
Use 5 days on, 2 days off strategy to minimize the side effects.
problemnewbie
Hi Mr Gemelli, can you tell me the right dose of ostarine for cutting? and what dose of GW should I add to the osta as a stack? help…I’m 210lbs now 25 years old
Dylan Gemelli
To cut up with SARMS, you need balance bro. I suggest you try this sarms cutting run with ostabolic/cardarine/sten:
Week 1-12
Ostabolic (osta) 25mgs/day
Cardarine (GW) 20mgs/day
Steanbolic (sr9009) 10mgs/day
Andarine (s4) 25mgs/day (start with 12.5mgs for 2 weeks then goto 25mgs)
Albert Wolfgang
If you just want to use ostarine and cardarine, 50mgs of ostarine ED and 20mgs cardarine ED. Easiest mix, add some testolone 10mgs ed! Makes sure to have cycle support with N2Guard 3 caps per day.
crazydd
What’s better for strength ostarine or andarine? can’t make up my mind what I should use to get stronger.
Dylan Gemelli
For strength, you should combine both ostabolic and andarine. Try this:
Week 1-12
Ostabolic (osta) 50mgs/day
Andarine (S4) 25mgs/day
Cardarine (GW) 20mgs/day
crazydd
What would the cardarine gw do for me for strength?
Dylan Gemelli
Cardarine GW is for stamina, and you need stamina if you want to get stronger. GW will increase your speed and ability to lift weights.
brobiggzz
How long do I use cardarine gw without it stopping to work? like does it stop working after so many weeks.
Dylan Gemelli
12 weeks of cardarine is your regular run. Most SARMS cycles should be 12 weeks max before you do mini-pct.
Fierce
What is a mini pct i mean i know its a post cycle therapy but for sarms .. what should i do ?
Dylan Gemelli
With certain SARMS like andarine/anabolicum/testolone, there is some suppression of your HPTA. So, you need to run a mini pct after use. An average mini pct is like this:
Clomid 25/25/25/25
hcgenerate 5caps/ed
cardarine 20mgs/ed or stenabolic 20mgs/ed
Albert Wolfgang
Always use cardarine with sarms cycles, it’s the best sarms base. It can be used in base of all sarms cycles.
Albert Wolfgang
I suggest andarine if you want pure strength, but ostabolic is also great if stacked with s4.
Dylan Gemelli
@brobiggzz Listen, cardarine (GW) has a receptor saturation time. Usually over 12 weeks of non-stop cardarine use can cause some receptor saturation. That’s why I suggest 12 week sarms cycles, after you do mini-pct for sarms and keep going.
persteni
I’d like to know how to use mk677 with mk2866, I’m confused about the 2 sarms, they both say MK but I don’t get how to stack them. I’m looking for hgh boost.
Dylan Gemelli
Nutrobal (mk677) is oral HGH, it boosts your hgh levels like injecting hgh directly. Ostabolic (mk2866) increases strength and fixes injury. If you stack the 2 of them, expect joint healing, getting lean and ripped, while gaining strength.
You can read more info on nutrobal and ostabolic here:
https://www.evolutionary.org/nutrobal-mk-677-ibutamoren
https://www.evolutionary.org/mk-2866-ostarine-sarms-exposed
Albert Wolfgang
For a stack you would stack them like this:
Week 1-12
Nutrobal mk677 20mgs before bed
Ostabolic (mk2866) 50mgs/ED
cardarine GW 20mgs/ED
plainbaseball
Dylan, I’m an athlete, what are the detection times for SARMS and are they tested for in drug testing? concerned now.
Dylan Gemelli
SARMS are now tested for in all sports. However, the detection times seem to get longer as science is catching up to SARMS so to speak. I would say if you’re tested, at least take 3 months of and detox after your SARMS run. Always be smart with drug tests.
IMO, ALL athletes are doping, so you’re not the 1st or last to do so.
bobunklez
Dylan, I also wanted to know about detection times on SARMS. Do you have any idea of the exact detection times for cardarine (GW) and ostarine (mk2866)? I need to know because my drug test is in 4months most likely.
Dylan Gemelli
I said this in my previous responses. Detection times for SARMS have not been released by WADA or any other anti-doping organizations. The stories about guys being busted with ostarine or gw501516 are fact, but the dates aren’t clear and the detection times aren’t clear. It looks like 3-6months for ostabolic (osta) and roughly 3 months for cardarine gw. However, these are not written in stone and can change in time.
warmwelk
Does this mean I need to stop ostarine (ostabolic) 3months before a drug test or 6months before? I’m also concerned about the detection times.
Dylan Gemelli
If you’re worried, I would go with 6months, but I’ve generally seen guys that stop ostarine 3 months out from a test to avoid detection times. The same goes for cardarine gw. I don’t consider SARMS detection free at all. They are easy to test for now, just like other performance enhancing drugs.
warmwelk
How many times per day do I take ostarine? I don’t understand what the half life is. It’s the mk2866 one not the other one I saw mk677.
Dylan Gemelli
I suggest you split ostarine (mk2866) into 2 daily doses, AM and before training or PM, the same goes for cardarine.
hollandhall
What can I stack Stenabolic (SR) with? I heard testolone (rad) and I heard ostabolic (mk2866) which one is better to stack for a perfect cutting stack?
Dylan Gemelli
Stenabolic stacks best with testolone. Here is a good stack with osta as the 3rd leg:
Week 1-12
Stenabolic (SR) 20mgs/ed (split into 4 doses)
Testolone (RAD) 10mgs/ed (split into 2 doses)
Ostabolic (MK2866) 25mgs/ED (split into 2 doses)
N2Guard 3 caps/ED
baldbeauty
Do SARMS cause hair loss? I am prone to hair loss, already loosing hair naturally and my dad is bald. So I’m worried if I start sarms I will lose hair. Heard steroids are terrible for hair but sarms not sure.
Dylan Gemelli
SARMS do NOT cause hairloss. That’s the beauty of SARMS, they give you the results of steroids without the harsh side effects steroids have.
Albert Wolfgang
I agree, there is no scientific evidence that SARMS cause hair loss. In fact, opposite, SARMS might stop hair loss from steroids (some studies are not pointing towards that).
moicholt
I want to lose bodyfat and maybe recomp a bit. Dylan, help me lose weight with SARMS 🙂 I don’t want to use steroids and want to be a lot more natural.
I saw the sarms cutting stack here, but is it good for me? white male, 6 foot, 237lbs about 22% bodyfat.
Dylan Gemelli
If you want to get lean and recomp with SARMS, I suggest you stack these SARMS together:
Week 1-12
Cardarine (GW) 20mgs/ed
Stenabolic (SR) 10mgs/ED
Ostabolic (osta) 25mgs/ED
Andarine (s4) 25mgs/ED
This stack is perfect for getting lean and doing recomp to your body.
Albert Wolfgang
I prefer to add anabolicum (lgd) to any recomp run. I found anabolicum to stack well with cardarine and andrine. Something like this:
Week 1-12
Anabolicum 10mgs/ED
Cardarine 20mgs/ED
Ostabolic 25mgs/ED
Andarine 25mgs/ED
HCGenerate 5 caps/ED
N2Guard 3 caps/ED (cycle support)
uksarmsguy
What SARMS can I use during my PCT? I’m looking to add some sarms for my pct.
Dylan Gemelli
The best sarms for PCT are cardarine gw and ostabolic (osta).
Week 1-6 pct
25mgs clomid/ED
20mgs nolvadex/ed
20mgs cardarine/ed
12.5mgs ostabolic (ostarine)/ed
5 tabs hcgenerate ES/ed
Albert Wolfgang
My favorite PCT SARMS are cardarine/ostabolic (light dose)/and stenabolic.
polternee
Can I stack Stenabolic (SR) and Cardarine (GW) together? Is it safe to stack them? I’m doing a lot of cardio now.
Dylan Gemelli
You can stack cardarine and stenabolic (sr9009) BUT there is a better way. You can stack them back to back instead of side by side. For example:
Week 1-10
Cardarine GW 20mgs/ED
Ostabolic (osta) 25mgs/ED
Anadarine (S4) 25mgs/ED
Week 11-21
Ostabolic (SR) 20mgs/ED (split into 4 doses)
Anabolicum (LGD) 10mgs/ED
Anadarine (S4) 25mgs/ED
GearHead
I’ve stacked Stenabolic (SR9009) and Cardarine (GW501516) together in 1 cycle without a problem, but I kept the cycle to 16 weeks. Ran 20mgs of stenabolic and 25mgs of cardarine. Fat loss was awesome and cardio amazing, bro you’ll love the stack!
bazilots
Is there an age limit on SARMS use? I’m 45 years old this year and I wanted to try SARMS for the 1st time. Looking into the SARMS triple stack to start (cardarine/andarine/ostarine). Not sure if I can use SARMS at my age or if my idea bout the triple stack is correct. Please help me.
Dylan Gemelli
There is no limit on the age for sarms use, not top limit. 21 year old and older can use SARMS not problem.
You got the right idea, for a 45 year old, the triple stack + testolone (RAD) is a good combo. So something like this:
Cardarine 20mgs/ED
Andarine 25mgs/ED
Ostabolic 25mgs/ED
Testolone 10mgs/ED
prontons
I’m a skinny guy, looking to bulk up by 20lbs. Which SARMS can I use to bulk up? Looking for best sarms for a bulk. I don’t want to use steroids just sarms. 12 weeks I’m ok with that.
Dylan Gemelli
You can bulk up with SARMS. I’ve have clients do it all the time. This is a good bulking SARMS cycle:
Week 1-16
Anabolicum LGD 10mgs/ED
Anadarine s4 25mgs/ed
Ostabolic 25mgs/ed
Testolone RAD 10mgs/ED
buzdrols
Hey Dylan, I’m a crossfit guy. Training to get lean and get fast and strong. In crossfit I’m strong enough though but I don’t have enough cardio. I really lose my breath fast after I am about 30min into the training session. Help me get better with crossfit with SARMS.
Dylan Gemelli
For crossfit, you need cardio and strength. It’s crucial, including speed. I suggest cardarine/andarine/ostabolic with a testolone kick. This is my Crossfit SARMS cycle:
Week 1-16
Cardarine 20mgs/ED
Andarine 25mgs/ED
Ostabolic 25mgs/ED
Testolone 10mgs/ED
engpeels
Can SARMS be stacked with steroids? I’m doing equipoise and testosterone, how do I stack SARMS in there? Please help.
Dylan Gemelli
You can add SARMS to your steroid cycle fairly easy. If you’re doing test and EQ, that means you’re likely looking for speed and power. You should add Cardarine (GW) and Andarine (S4) with some Anabolicum @ 10mgs/ed.
mattbig
If I want to get 6 packs abs, what are the best SARMS for that? I don’t want to inject anything, I just want to use some SARMS so they are easy to use.
Dylan Gemelli
To be honest, the best way to get 6 packs abs is diet and cardio. You can add sarms to the cutting plan but you still need cardio bro. Here is a simple SARMS cutting stack for 12 weeks:
Week 1-12
Cardarine GW 20mgs/ed
Andarine S4 25mgs/ed
Anabolicum LD 10mgs/ED
Testolone RAD 10mgs/ED
Albert Wolfgang
Best idea for a 6pack abs is DIET! followed by a cardarine/andarine/ostabolic stack.
sammybull
I play semi-pro football. Not really looking to be professional at this point but want to get better with what I do. I enjoy playing ball. Looking for SARMS to boost my cardio, endurance and strength, please give me a list and a 16 week cycle please.
I read about SARM s-23 is it good for strength?
Dylan Gemelli
If you play football, make sure you’re not tested if you’re going to use SARMS or time your intake properly.
Don’t use s-23 it’s very suppressive and not good for what you’re looking for. I’m going to update this article to show how bad sarm s-23 is for bodybuilders.
Not counting s-23, week 1-16
Cardarine 20mgs ED
Andarine 25mgs ED
Stenabolic 20mgs ED
Ostabolic 25mgs ED
Albert Wolfgang
SARM s-23 is terrible for athletes. If you want cardio use cardarine gw, if you want strength use andarine/anabolicum.
lee gyung gun
Cutting stack
s4
GW
SR
How long and what about PCT Stack following?
N2Guard will be good?
I am using as first time as cutting /lean purpose
please comment me
Dylan Gemelli
For a cutting stack, you should run cardarine gw 20mgs ED + stenabolic sr 10mgs ED + andarine s4 25mgs ED.
For pct, you should go with 4 weeks sarms mini-pct
clomid 25/25/25/25
hcgenerate 5 caps ED
n2guard 5 caps ED
copyandsteve
I want to run sarms in my bridge. I’m coming off my PCT and want to do a SARMS bridge. What are the best SARMS to use for a bridge between cycles?
Dylan Gemelli
If you want to run SARMS as a bridge, you should use non-suppressive SARMS. I suggest a stack of Cardarine+Stenabolic+Testolone+low dose Ostabolic.
bobisyouruncle
Can I stack SARMS with steroids in 1 stack? I’m going to cycle testosterone enanthate and primobolan, which steroids would I add for this cutting cycle?
Dylan Gemelli
You can stack sarms and steroids, that’s not a problem. If you are doing cutting, use primobolan/winstrol with Cardarine/andarine and stenabolic.
GearHead
I’ve stacked sarms and steroids. My favorite stack is 800mgs of primobolan/week with 20mgs cardarine/day + 10mgs testolone/day and 25mgs andarine/day.
milliviver
Are there dangers of losing hair with SARMS? any other side effects about sarms I don’t know about? like prostate side effects? I’m 45 years old so afraid of hair loss and prostate issues.
Dylan Gemelli
SARMS does NOT cause hair loss. You have nothing to worry about. In fact, SARMS have no effect on prostate. They are like steroids without the nasty side effects.
Albert Wolfgang
Many studies have shown that Sarms don’t cause hair loss. Don’t worry. Also, sarms have no effect on the prostate.
GearHead
There is no link between SARMS and hair loss or prostate issues. In fact, SARMS actually help regrow hair in some cases.
buffguyfact
How long do I need to use SARMS before I get a 6 pack? I haven’t seen my abs in a long time. I want to get ripped up again.
Albert Wolfgang
I just answered a similar question. SARMS don’t guarantee abs, a good diet does. If you want to get abs, start a cutting diet and add these sarms: cardarine gw 20mgs/ed, andarine s4 25mgs/ed, ostabolic mk2866 25mgs/ed and testolone rad 10mgs/ed.
kjccjc
Dylan,
I want to bulk but at this time i cant afford to get all of the sarms that you suggested. Which one should I start with first for the est results I will start to purchase additional ones every two to three weeks until i have all that i need. Also, do i need a pct and if so which one. Im 175lbs right now and i would like to be between 195 and 205 by years end. I have read that LGD and MK 2866 have the same type of chemical makeup and to take them at the same time would not be optimum. let me know your thoughts.
Dylan Gemelli
If you want to start with a good bulk that’s cost effective, I suggest 25mgs andarine/ED + 25mgs ostabolic ED. That’s a light start for you. If you want to get bigger go with:
25mgs andarine/ED
10mgs testolone/ed
25mgs ostabolic/ed
20mgs nutrobal/ed
PCT go with mini pct
clomid 25/25/25/25
hcgenerate 3 caps/ed
alicebob
What sarms stack together best to boost cardio? I’m looking to do more cardio for my crossfit.
Dylan Gemelli
For Cardio, your best bet is to use cardarine (GW) and stenabolic (SR), those are purely cardio sarms. Cardarine is used 20mgs per day in 10mgs/10mgs doses and Stenabolic (SR) is used in 20mgs per day doses in 5mgs/5mgs/5mgs/5mgs splits.
wookistarwars
Dylan, are SARMS safe? should I be worried about side effects from sarms like ostarine/andarine/LGD??? help
Dylan Gemelli
SARMS are safe when compared to steroids. That’s for sure. Andarine/Anabolicum lgd are suppressive so you’ll need a pct after. Cardarine/stenabolic are not, nutrobal mk677 is not too.
beanam2
Dylan, I know that you mentioned the half of Ostabolic (mk-2866) to be 24 hours, does that mean that it takes the body 24 hours to absorb/process the entire compound?
Dylan Gemelli
That means it takes 24 to absorb 1/2 aka half life, but it doesn’t mean you take it 1 time per day. While on paper ostabolic mk has a 24 hour half life, in my experience it’s best to take 2 doses of ostarine per day. Every 12 hours.
newbiepaul
I’m looking to combine a few sarms in a stack. Is there a good modified sarms triple stack with s4 in it?
Dylan Gemelli
If you want a modified triple stack, try this run:
Anabolicum LDG 10mgs/ed
Cardarine gw 20mgs/ed
Testolone 10mgs/ed
Ostabolic 25mgs/ed
kentfit
Hi! I would like to ask if you can use a SARMS stack for lean muscle mass. a stack of Ostarine with Cardarine or MK-47 (MK-677) and LGD combined better? any PCT needed? Thanks!
GearHead
SARMS are perfect for fat loss. I suggest cardarine with nutrobal mk677 and ostabolic.