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3rd Cycle - Test C / NPP / Proviron

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Jetblast

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Hello Gentlemen -

As mentioned in my last thread, I was going to post a Log type thread on my current cycle. My last thread was "***PCT-Perfection***". Everyone really gave me a lot of solid advice and good direction/encouragement, so I felt compelled to start another for this cycle.

Background of AAS Usage:

1st cycle - Test only. Nothing really to report. Some gains, Didn't really keep them, poor PCT (Nolva only), I didn't have EVO in my life at that point.

2nd Cycle - Test, Anavar, NPP, Proviron Life changing results. I used Anavar first 5 weeks as kick starter, It was amazing except for my liver enzymes were out of control. Enzymes came back down after I dropped the anavar in week six. To anavar's credit. I wasn't running N2Guard. I ran a different cycle support purchased off amazon. I was told by you grand folks that n2guard is a must; Lesson Learned. No gyno other than some hard nipples every now and then. I would bump up my Arimidex and all was good. All my gear was sources from Dom-Sup, except for the fact I swapped AIs to Aromasin, purchased from PSL, for my PCT. Adex did a number on my lipids; and being an EVO member now, it made sense to follow the experience users to Aromasin and leave Adex behind.

THIS CYCLE - 3RD CYCLE

Compounds and Cycle Plan
Anabolics:
-Test Cyp 400mg for 12 weeks
-NPP 385mg for 10 weeks (starting week 3)
-Proviron 50mg (whole cycle)

Support:
Aromasin 10mg EOD (More on changes to this later)
Caber .5mg E3D
N2Guard 7 caps ED

PCT
Perfect PCT. Sarms are from Sarms.forsale

Source:
PSL. Everything PSL this time. EuroPharm for everything but Caber (Cabaser).
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My Stats & Goals
Stats:
6'6" 230lbs - Starting at 12.5% BF. Bodybuilding for 10+ years.
Total Test at Start was 1068ng/dl (I thought I ordered 'free' as well, but I didn't)
(Labs posted to this thread)

Goals:
Continue my strength gains that I made from my last amazing cycle, and hope to recomp. Looking to get back down to 6.5% BF as I did with my last cycle and maintain that full/big look. Wife doesn't love the Tren-hard bodies, so I went with NPP again as my choice.

How/Where/Issues/Feelings??

Thank you for asking...
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So lets start with where... Where am I at.
I'm Day 5 of Week 5 in this 12 week cycle. I waited to post until I had this more fleshed out.

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How?... How is it going?
Making some strength gains slowly. Halfway through week 5. In my second cycle, if you recall from above, I kicked it off with Var. I was met with instant results using Var... This time its muuuuch slower. I'm eating at a slight deficit, so I've lost a few lbs, but only in BF, I've maintained my Lean Body mass. My starting LB was 203 at day 1, last weigh in i'm at 202, but lost 3.5lbs of fat mass.

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Issues...?
YEP!

I started AI straight from the beginning. Aromasin 10mg eod. Why 10mg and not 12.5mg like everyone says... Because EP only sells 20mg tabs; break it in half and 10mg..

After the first week I noticed that my nipples are getting really hard very often. I upped my AI to 20mg EOD for week 2 and plan to run that the rest of cycle. By end of week 3 I noticed my nipples are still getting hard and are starting to look 'pouty'. Guys, I SWEAR, i'm not making up my numbers to you. I upped it to 20mg of Aromasin ED. now we are in week 5 my nipples are still getting hard. I mean it can be in a dry sauna at 150 degrees and no breeze and these babies can cut glass better than diamonds. I am now in week 5 and I'm now doing 40mg of aromasin ED since day 1 of week 5. I have what feels like a lump in my right nipple. I woke up this morning and saw what I'd imagine a pubescent girl's nipple would look like.
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LABS - going in on Tuesday (3/22) for a full work-up. I WILL post them on here.
Why Tuesday and why not sooner? I travel for a living... and honestly I wasn't so sure that this wasn't going to go away. Also, I did labs at week 5 for my last 2 cycles, so this was a scheduled visit anyhow.

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Feelings
Kind of let down. I feel like I should have stuck with Arimidex as my last cycle, exactly a year ago, worked well with that and I had NO gyno at all. I feel like either Aromasin doesn't work for me, or EuroPharm (via PSL) isn't really holding up to quality. I actually just ordered more Aromasin from PSL because 40mg everyday is a lot more than what I had planned on taking. I'm not shooting down an approved source, but I will get my lab results and we can see for ourselves what this course of AI has yielded for me from PSL (Vision~ Please take don't take offense to any of these comments, this is meant to be a respectful disclosure of my feelings).

So yes, Labs on Tuesday, Will post here.

As of now, I'm not sure I'm going to stick with the cycle... I'm thinking I may bail on it to PCT and try to Anti-Gyno. Never wanted it to come to this; especially since my last cycle was so epic in my mind.

Conclusion
I guess labs/bloods will be the teller, but I'm really stressed and burned out on this whole "Fuck I might have Gyno... Wait, Fuck, I do have GYNO!" rollercoaster. Just isn't worth it right now.

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This is a good thread. I love the layout you're very detailed.

You know, found that some guys are gyno prone more than others no matter the aromasin dose. Means, if you stop your aromatase conversion by taking high aromasin doses, there are different estrogens that testosterone can convert to which will bind to the site around the nipple. So, there is a solution.

I suggest you take 40mgs nolvadex ED until the gyno calms down. Then pyramid down.

Your dostinex dose is a bit high, I found high cabergoline doses 0.5mgs a bit excessive, 0.25mgs is usually ok/week.

I would like to see blood work. It's possible you're very sensitive to the E2 or it's a progesterone problem.

I've had clients who had progesterone issues with NPP/deca durabolin (nandrolones), so no matter how much aromasin or arimidex you still get gyno.

IMO, all bodybuilders or guys who cycle should get the gyno glands removed, makes like super easy.
 
Jetblast said:
Posted picture from end of last cycle in 2021 and what I witnessed developing on me today. which almost left me on the floor gasping for air.
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bro want to suck on those tits, look like gyno
 
High aromasin dose wont help much if you have gyno already.

The estrogen receptors around the nipple have been stimulated, even if you use 1000mgs of aromasin you wont fix that issue.

Aromasin is an Aromatase inhibitor (Ai) not a SERM (selective esterogen receptor modulator), means aromasin will inhibit the arotase enzyme while a serm will block the estrogen receptor locally

your issue with gyno needs a SERM to block estrogen at the nipple
 
honestly this is a misuse of anti-estrogens, you shouldnt goto 40mgs aromasin, you can lower aromatase activity too much

get some nolvadex asap 60mgs per day and pyramid down by 20mgs to 10mgs ed after the gyno is small
 
Wow Gentlemen-

Thx for all the heartfelt replies. I appreciate you..

Okay… SERM.

I have a pound full of Nolva, but I’ve seen Steve, and others say “No Nolva on Nandrolones due to progestin receptor sensitivity…”

Are we still at play here?
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I’m going to sit tight on the SERM until Tuesday’s bloodwork unless an overwhelming majority says “DO SERMS!”
 
Eddie Haskell said:
This is a good thread. I love the layout you're very detailed.

You know, found that some guys are gyno prone more than others no matter the aromasin dose. Means, if you stop your aromatase conversion by taking high aromasin doses, there are different estrogens that testosterone can convert to which will bind to the site around the nipple. So, there is a solution.

I suggest you take 40mgs nolvadex ED until the gyno calms down. Then pyramid down.

Your dostinex dose is a bit high, I found high cabergoline doses 0.5mgs a bit excessive, 0.25mgs is usually ok/week.

I would like to see blood work. It's possible you're very sensitive to the E2 or it's a progesterone problem.

I've had clients who had progesterone issues with NPP/deca durabolin (nandrolones), so no matter how much aromasin or arimidex you still get gyno.

IMO, all bodybuilders or guys who cycle should get the gyno glands removed, makes like super easy.
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Eddie-

Thank you for the compliment and for your thoughtful response.

Okay, say labs come back. Estradiol is normal range…

Progestin is out of control… what now…?
 
Oh thats not good 40mgs aromasin, you should be doing nolvadex asap ed

see if you can get yohimflame if n2bm has it in stock I put that stuff on my nipple with nolvadex, killed my gyno
 
2Thick said:
Nolvadex is going to be the way and lower aromasin dose to normal 20mgs ed dont abuse it
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Copy…

Start Nolva now, manage Asin back to 20mg ED.

Is that what we are agreeing on here guys?

And this is still while pinning NPP at 385.

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Just goes against what I read on here.
 
At this time start on 50mgs of TAMOXIFEN, it should help fast. Liked your log, looking forward to more of those
 
This is a great detailed log, thank you for posting this information, but I should mention there is no need to apologize to me for anything, this is simply your first-hand experience and it's transparency..
We all wish that we can have great results with something, but in life that's simply not how things will always go and definitely not always in our favor.

You bring up a very valid perspective, and it's something I was going to mention not all AIs are created equal, they all have many similarities but they target differently some are more aggressive than others.
There is a lot of misinformation out there in circulation on the internet that one is more Superior than the other, that is simply not the case because why these drugs have been synthesized and compounded for medical use and treatment will vary and not all of these drugs will serve the same purpose, this is why some treatment centers will opt for one specific drug over the other.
Much like how a psychologist may add or subtract different types of anti-depressants for people, some people may swear by one, well others may have a very unfortunate experience.

If you are getting a reoccurrence with gyno, relying on an anti-estrogen to keep this at bay could be a bit dangerous for yourself. Tamoxifen is very underestimated, this should be your main go-to compound for targeting.

I currently use EP aromasin at 10mg, ED.
I'm using this in replace of Adex, only because my goal is entirely different, and I use anti-estrogens differently with different goals.

Anti estrogens do not work right away, they take several weeks and even from there it will take additional weeks to bring estrogen serum levels lower, but that alone will not treat and Target gyno.
Anti-estrogens have absolutely zero connection and response with ERs, this is where the addition of tamoxifen would be suggested with people that are prone to gyno. Anti estrogens are not a first line of defense, they are simply a safeguard, tamoxifen is a first line defense.

It is perfectly safe to use tamoxifen with Nandrolone, I have personally had some onsets of gyno because of using Nandrolone and as always tamoxifen is my targeting drug of choice.

It is absolute horseshit that people cannot use tamoxifen with Deca.

Just bear in mind that no matter what, this is still a personalized science experiment on yourself at the end of the day, it's all about dialing things in and finding out what works best for you.

Your approach is great with taking everyone's suggestions and sifting through everything and finding out what is the perfect fit.
 
Mobster said:
Zero need to 'kick it off with var'.
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I get that… I didn’t do it this time, but I certainly liked it.

I suppose most would say use it to finish, and I can see how that would be amazing as well.

Probably won’t mess with orals other than Proviron as I am with this current cycle..
 
Okay -

I’m going to hit 50mg of Tamoxifen per day when I get home starting today. I’m guessing 50mg per day for the first week, and see how it’s progressing before tapering down.

Again, labs tomorrow, will report what the blood says as soon as I get it.

Appreciate it, gents.
 
~Vision~ said:
This is a great detailed log, thank you for posting this information, but I should mention there is no need to apologize to me for anything, this is simply your first-hand experience and it's transparency..
We all wish that we can have great results with something, but in life that's simply not how things will always go and definitely not always in our favor.

You bring up a very valid perspective, and it's something I was going to mention not all AIs are created equal, they all have many similarities but they target differently some are more aggressive than others.
There is a lot of misinformation out there in circulation on the internet that one is more Superior than the other, that is simply not the case because why these drugs have been synthesized and compounded for medical use and treatment will vary and not all of these drugs will serve the same purpose, this is why some treatment centers will opt for one specific drug over the other.
Much like how a psychologist may add or subtract different types of anti-depressants for people, some people may swear by one, well others may have a very unfortunate experience.

If you are getting a reoccurrence with gyno, relying on an anti-estrogen to keep this at bay could be a bit dangerous for yourself. Tamoxifen is very underestimated, this should be your main go-to compound for targeting.

I currently use EP aromasin at 10mg, ED.
I'm using this in replace of Adex, only because my goal is entirely different, and I use anti-estrogens differently with different goals.

Anti estrogens do not work right away, they take several weeks and even from there it will take additional weeks to bring estrogen serum levels lower, but that alone will not treat and Target gyno.
Anti-estrogens have absolutely zero connection and response with ERs, this is where the addition of tamoxifen would be suggested with people that are prone to gyno. Anti estrogens are not a first line of defense, they are simply a safeguard, tamoxifen is a first line defense.

It is perfectly safe to use tamoxifen with Nandrolone, I have personally had some onsets of gyno because of using Nandrolone and as always tamoxifen is my targeting drug of choice.

It is absolute horseshit that people cannot use tamoxifen with Deca.

Just bear in mind that no matter what, this is still a personalized science experiment on yourself at the end of the day, it's all about dialing things in and finding out what works best for you.

Your approach is great with taking everyone's suggestions and sifting through everything and finding out what is the perfect fit.
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Vision -

As always, thanks for the thoughtful reply.

Also, thank you for spelling that all out for me (us); very appreciative of your time in doing so.

So, based on what you’re saying (and the overwhelming responses), Tamoxifen is safe to run with Nandros.. got it!

As mentioned above, I’m going to run it at 50mg for a week and reevaluate my gyno from there, as to how and when to start to taper it. Is this a good plan?

Haven’t looked to see if Yohimflame is available, but I’m going to get an order of that as well.
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If bloods show estradiol levels higher than normal, do you suggest a change in AI from Aromasin? I do not have enough Adex from my last cycle, will have to order some more if switch is made.

Much thanks!
 
~Vision~ said:
This is a great detailed log, thank you for posting this information, but I should mention there is no need to apologize to me for anything, this is simply your first-hand experience and it's transparency..
We all wish that we can have great results with something, but in life that's simply not how things will always go and definitely not always in our favor.

You bring up a very valid perspective, and it's something I was going to mention not all AIs are created equal, they all have many similarities but they target differently some are more aggressive than others.
There is a lot of misinformation out there in circulation on the internet that one is more Superior than the other, that is simply not the case because why these drugs have been synthesized and compounded for medical use and treatment will vary and not all of these drugs will serve the same purpose, this is why some treatment centers will opt for one specific drug over the other.
Much like how a psychologist may add or subtract different types of anti-depressants for people, some people may swear by one, well others may have a very unfortunate experience.

If you are getting a reoccurrence with gyno, relying on an anti-estrogen to keep this at bay could be a bit dangerous for yourself. Tamoxifen is very underestimated, this should be your main go-to compound for targeting.

I currently use EP aromasin at 10mg, ED.
I'm using this in replace of Adex, only because my goal is entirely different, and I use anti-estrogens differently with different goals.

Anti estrogens do not work right away, they take several weeks and even from there it will take additional weeks to bring estrogen serum levels lower, but that alone will not treat and Target gyno.
Anti-estrogens have absolutely zero connection and response with ERs, this is where the addition of tamoxifen would be suggested with people that are prone to gyno. Anti estrogens are not a first line of defense, they are simply a safeguard, tamoxifen is a first line defense.

It is perfectly safe to use tamoxifen with Nandrolone, I have personally had some onsets of gyno because of using Nandrolone and as always tamoxifen is my targeting drug of choice.

It is absolute horseshit that people cannot use tamoxifen with Deca.

Just bear in mind that no matter what, this is still a personalized science experiment on yourself at the end of the day, it's all about dialing things in and finding out what works best for you.

Your approach is great with taking everyone's suggestions and sifting through everything and finding out what is the perfect fit.
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Yes exactly with all he said
 
Jetblast said:
Vision -

As always, thanks for the thoughtful reply.

Also, thank you for spelling that all out for me (us); very appreciative of your time in doing so.

So, based on what you’re saying (and the overwhelming responses), Tamoxifen is safe to run with Nandros.. got it!

As mentioned above, I’m going to run it at 50mg for a week and reevaluate my gyno from there, as to how and when to start to taper it. Is this a good plan?

Haven’t looked to see if Yohimflame is available, but I’m going to get an order of that as well.
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If bloods show estradiol levels higher than normal, do you suggest a change in AI from Aromasin? I do not have enough Adex from my last cycle, will have to order some more if switch is made.

Much thanks!
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I would do a nuke protocol with the glandular ducts. tamox at 60mgs ED for 7 days, 40mgs ED for 7 days and 20mg EOD for 7 days, of split that last week to 10mgs ED. Nuke the ER's, allow tamox to be the occupier in that space in the RECs, this will help reduce any inflammation, during this time is when you should make your AI switch. If estro levels are high, certainly change AI's. also, you may want to consider changing up your injection scheduling as well. Break up your shots with test cyp into 3 x a week, this way to are not having a crazy high Cmax between injections and from there leaving behind a good amount of bound test that might get itself in to trouble when being distributed, here it can convert into estro.. On your next blood test - get your SHBG checked, see what is going on there as well.. If you SHBG is high, this could be a reason why you may be experiencing sides with estro.. Higher the SHBG level will mean greater chance of high estro in circulation and greater chance of more usable test... I see that you have proviron, so this should eliminate that scenario, but its worth investigating.
Do keep in mind that when test goes up, so will estro, this is perfectly natural. We don't want crazy high T levels with tanked estro. Having estro slightly higher than norm with supraphysiological levels of test is NOT bad or unusual. People focus to much on destroying estro and pay less attention on SHBG and ER's, and the put all the focus into AI's. There is a lot going on and its best to consider everything.

If you feel good, but have just slight estro sides, target the symptoms. If you eliminate to much estro, you may lose your sense of wellbeing, motivation, drive and so.. Its all about finding the right ratio/balance.

Do keep in mind that testing your your progestin levels, nandrolone is a synthetic progestin, so that will give a skewed result.
 
Lots of good info. Happened to me last cycle. Also used npp at 400. Used nolva as mentioned here. Cleared it up. Took some time tho. Left tit leaked scared me bad. Lmfao.
 
Jetblast said:
Hello Gentlemen -

As mentioned in my last thread, I was going to post a Log type thread on my current cycle. My last thread was "***PCT-Perfection***". Everyone really gave me a lot of solid advice and good direction/encouragement, so I felt compelled to start another for this cycle.

Background of AAS Usage:

1st cycle - Test only. Nothing really to report. Some gains, Didn't really keep them, poor PCT (Nolva only), I didn't have EVO in my life at that point.

2nd Cycle - Test, Anavar, NPP, Proviron Life changing results. I used Anavar first 5 weeks as kick starter, It was amazing except for my liver enzymes were out of control. Enzymes came back down after I dropped the anavar in week six. To anavar's credit. I wasn't running N2Guard. I ran a different cycle support purchased off amazon. I was told by you grand folks that n2guard is a must; Lesson Learned. No gyno other than some hard nipples every now and then. I would bump up my Arimidex and all was good. All my gear was sources from Dom-Sup, except for the fact I swapped AIs to Aromasin, purchased from PSL, for my PCT. Adex did a number on my lipids; and being an EVO member now, it made sense to follow the experience users to Aromasin and leave Adex behind.

THIS CYCLE - 3RD CYCLE

Compounds and Cycle Plan
Anabolics:
-Test Cyp 400mg for 12 weeks
-NPP 385mg for 10 weeks (starting week 3)
-Proviron 50mg (whole cycle)

Support:
Aromasin 10mg EOD (More on changes to this later)
Caber .5mg E3D
N2Guard 7 caps ED

PCT
Perfect PCT. Sarms are from Sarms.forsale

Source:
PSL. Everything PSL this time. EuroPharm for everything but Caber (Cabaser).
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My Stats & Goals
Stats:
6'6" 230lbs - Starting at 12.5% BF. Bodybuilding for 10+ years.
Total Test at Start was 1068ng/dl (I thought I ordered 'free' as well, but I didn't)
(Labs posted to this thread)

Goals:
Continue my strength gains that I made from my last amazing cycle, and hope to recomp. Looking to get back down to 6.5% BF as I did with my last cycle and maintain that full/big look. Wife doesn't love the Tren-hard bodies, so I went with NPP again as my choice.

How/Where/Issues/Feelings??

Thank you for asking...
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So lets start with where... Where am I at.
I'm Day 5 of Week 5 in this 12 week cycle. I waited to post until I had this more fleshed out.

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How?... How is it going?
Making some strength gains slowly. Halfway through week 5. In my second cycle, if you recall from above, I kicked it off with Var. I was met with instant results using Var... This time its muuuuch slower. I'm eating at a slight deficit, so I've lost a few lbs, but only in BF, I've maintained my Lean Body mass. My starting LB was 203 at day 1, last weigh in i'm at 202, but lost 3.5lbs of fat mass.

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Issues...?
YEP!

I started AI straight from the beginning. Aromasin 10mg eod. Why 10mg and not 12.5mg like everyone says... Because EP only sells 20mg tabs; break it in half and 10mg..

After the first week I noticed that my nipples are getting really hard very often. I upped my AI to 20mg EOD for week 2 and plan to run that the rest of cycle. By end of week 3 I noticed my nipples are still getting hard and are starting to look 'pouty'. Guys, I SWEAR, i'm not making up my numbers to you. I upped it to 20mg of Aromasin ED. now we are in week 5 my nipples are still getting hard. I mean it can be in a dry sauna at 150 degrees and no breeze and these babies can cut glass better than diamonds. I am now in week 5 and I'm now doing 40mg of aromasin ED since day 1 of week 5. I have what feels like a lump in my right nipple. I woke up this morning and saw what I'd imagine a pubescent girl's nipple would look like.
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LABS - going in on Tuesday (3/22) for a full work-up. I WILL post them on here.
Why Tuesday and why not sooner? I travel for a living... and honestly I wasn't so sure that this wasn't going to go away. Also, I did labs at week 5 for my last 2 cycles, so this was a scheduled visit anyhow.

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Feelings
Kind of let down. I feel like I should have stuck with Arimidex as my last cycle, exactly a year ago, worked well with that and I had NO gyno at all. I feel like either Aromasin doesn't work for me, or EuroPharm (via PSL) isn't really holding up to quality. I actually just ordered more Aromasin from PSL because 40mg everyday is a lot more than what I had planned on taking. I'm not shooting down an approved source, but I will get my lab results and we can see for ourselves what this course of AI has yielded for me from PSL (Vision~ Please take don't take offense to any of these comments, this is meant to be a respectful disclosure of my feelings).

So yes, Labs on Tuesday, Will post here.

As of now, I'm not sure I'm going to stick with the cycle... I'm thinking I may bail on it to PCT and try to Anti-Gyno. Never wanted it to come to this; especially since my last cycle was so epic in my mind.

Conclusion
I guess labs/bloods will be the teller, but I'm really stressed and burned out on this whole "Fuck I might have Gyno... Wait, Fuck, I do have GYNO!" rollercoaster. Just isn't worth it right now.

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LABS for Day 0 - Pre cycle Labwork.
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~Vision~ said:
I would do a nuke protocol with the glandular ducts. tamox at 60mgs ED for 7 days, 40mgs ED for 7 days and 20mg EOD for 7 days, of split that last week to 10mgs ED. Nuke the ER's, allow tamox to be the occupier in that space in the RECs, this will help reduce any inflammation, during this time is when you should make your AI switch. If estro levels are high, certainly change AI's. also, you may want to consider changing up your injection scheduling as well. Break up your shots with test cyp into 3 x a week, this way to are not having a crazy high Cmax between injections and from there leaving behind a good amount of bound test that might get itself in to trouble when being distributed, here it can convert into estro.. On your next blood test - get your SHBG checked, see what is going on there as well.. If you SHBG is high, this could be a reason why you may be experiencing sides with estro.. Higher the SHBG level will mean greater chance of high estro in circulation and greater chance of more usable test... I see that you have proviron, so this should eliminate that scenario, but its worth investigating.
Do keep in mind that when test goes up, so will estro, this is perfectly natural. We don't want crazy high T levels with tanked estro. Having estro slightly higher than norm with supraphysiological levels of test is NOT bad or unusual. People focus to much on destroying estro and pay less attention on SHBG and ER's, and the put all the focus into AI's. There is a lot going on and its best to consider everything.

If you feel good, but have just slight estro sides, target the symptoms. If you eliminate to much estro, you may lose your sense of wellbeing, motivation, drive and so.. Its all about finding the right ratio/balance.

Do keep in mind that testing your your progestin levels, nandrolone is a synthetic progestin, so that will give a skewed result.
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Operation ***NUKE ERs*** in progress…

I dropped 60mg of Tamoxifen down the hatch on Monday when I got home… been hitting it ED. Will follow your (vision’s) protocol as listed above.

My nipple sensitivity, which I really didn’t notice while it was happening, has started to subside a bit. Funny how after the fact you realize that they were actually a bit sore… I assumed maybe Bc I’m incessant on chronically checking my lumps; finger jamming my nipples ever few mins… “is still there?!!” As though it will magically depart my breast tissue because of my attention to it lol.

Outside of sensitivity, these babies will still get harder than my boner at 3am while I’m sleeping, but now not as frequent. So nipples still getting hard, but not as often.

Nipple puffiness still there, as I’d expect only a few days in to Operation: Nuke ERs.
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Vision -

I try to pin EOD. I am pinning NPP after all, so I don’t take advantage of the longer estered Test. I would pin frequently anyhow, the YouTube doc I follow talks a lot about micro-dosing esters of testosterone to control [some] estrogenic sides.

Progesterone test -

Oh well… I already bought it. I guess it’ll serve as an indication if the NPP is working or now ;-)
I’ll order SHBG on the next bloods. I usually try to add something to the mix of baseline tests, I’ll be sure to add that one. I did order Total&Free test, so we can still get a good measure of how much test is bound up.

Much much much thanks for your time… it really speaks miles how invested you are to the guys on here. You don’t know me, but you certainly take time to understand and thoughtfully respond to my plight. A debt of gratitude l, sir!

Honestly, you’re attention on here and care for the bros is why I chose PSL for this cycle.
 
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Today’s weekly weigh in…

LBM is up 3 lbs, fat is up 1 lb.

Going to make some slight diet adjustments.

Overall happy, my goal is to be closer to 10% BF next weigh in.
 
Jetblast said:
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Today’s weekly weigh in…

LBM is up 3 lbs, fat is up 1 lb.

Going to make some slight diet adjustments.

Overall happy, my goal is to be closer to 10% BF next weigh in.
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okay thanks for the update, we bakc you
 
11.3% you're very close to 10% bodyfat nicely done
 
keep going 10% is within your reach

log more for all of us
 
Great result, all best
 
Jetblast said:
Operation ***NUKE ERs*** in progress…

I dropped 60mg of Tamoxifen down the hatch on Monday when I got home… been hitting it ED. Will follow your (vision’s) protocol as listed above.

My nipple sensitivity, which I really didn’t notice while it was happening, has started to subside a bit. Funny how after the fact you realize that they were actually a bit sore… I assumed maybe Bc I’m incessant on chronically checking my lumps; finger jamming my nipples ever few mins… “is still there?!!” As though it will magically depart my breast tissue because of my attention to it lol.

Outside of sensitivity, these babies will still get harder than my boner at 3am while I’m sleeping, but now not as frequent. So nipples still getting hard, but not as often.

Nipple puffiness still there, as I’d expect only a few days in to Operation: Nuke ERs.
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Vision -

I try to pin EOD. I am pinning NPP after all, so I don’t take advantage of the longer estered Test. I would pin frequently anyhow, the YouTube doc I follow talks a lot about micro-dosing esters of testosterone to control [some] estrogenic sides.

Progesterone test -

Oh well… I already bought it. I guess it’ll serve as an indication if the NPP is working or now ;-)
I’ll order SHBG on the next bloods. I usually try to add something to the mix of baseline tests, I’ll be sure to add that one. I did order Total&Free test, so we can still get a good measure of how much test is bound up.

Much much much thanks for your time… it really speaks miles how invested you are to the guys on here. You don’t know me, but you certainly take time to understand and thoughtfully respond to my plight. A debt of gratitude l, sir!

Honestly, you’re attention on here and care for the bros is why I chose PSL for this cycle.
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Hey brother just checking up on you man, I hope all is well and how do you feel now?
You should have made some significant progress by this point and hopefully everything has subsided and the inflammation has been considerably reduced.

How do you feel?

If there's anything else that myself in the community can help you with please do not hesitate to ask..
 
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