Approved Log My LGD-4033 Mk677 SARMS Cycle Log

[bigKO1]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

 

[AusMade]

Nice mate.

You have a good frame built already, get those gains!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

@Archie welcome to the EVO family very happy to see you share with us. You have a good natural build, big size, big arms, strong shoulders, power base.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

I think 10mgs lgd4033 is enough you dont need 15.
For pCT, you need to add a test booster like hcgenerate that's fadogia based https://www.hcgenerate.com
post your pre cycle bloods please

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

You need to add milk thistle to this and higher NAC and TUDCA doses.
supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Diet
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good. We need to see actual foods.
Your protein is too low to grow and carbs too low if you want to grow too. You need around 250 grams of protein and 300 grams of carbs to grow.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Training, Cardio
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

You can get good gains but food and training will be key so start updating us please on the reg

 

[bigKO1]

Thanks for the reply and the Welcome @LevButlerov. Please see responses below.

I think 10mgs lgd4033 is enough you dont need 15.
For pCT, you need to add a test booster like hcgenerate that's fadogia based https://www.hcgenerate.com
post your pre cycle bloods please

Unfortunately, the capsules I have are 15mg. I would of went 10 although the source I got them from was the only trusted one I had at the time (Before I came across EVO). Noted on the PCT will get. Bloods attached (note. Liver marker in the red, was partying to much, have had 4 week break before starting cycle.)

You need to add milk thistle to this and higher NAC and TUDCA doses.
supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

What doses do you recommend for TUDCA/NAC? 500g/1600g?
Currently no digestive supps.

Diet
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good. We need to see actual foods.
Your protein is too low to grow and carbs too low if you want to grow too. You need around 250 grams of protein and 300 grams of carbs to grow.

Will start logging food. Breakfast uploaded, Lunch will be the same.
250g Chicken tenderloin, 70g vermicelli, 80g avocado.
Calories: 612
C: 63G
P: 63G
F:13G

Training, Cardio
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Only Cardio atm is walks usually 40 mins around midday and 1hr soccer every Tuesday night. Will log Todays workout later.

 

[stevesmi]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

this is a good stack for someone your age. can you also share where you got your sarms. that is very important too ! @Archie

 

[bigKO1]

this is a good stack for someone your age. can you also share where you got your sarms. that is very important too ! @Archie

@stevesmi , Source was Xclusivesupps.

 

[stevesmi]

@stevesmi , Source was Xclusivesupps.

never herad of them man. a lot of fake sarms going around right now

 

[bigKO1]

never herad of them man. a lot of fake sarms going around right now

Yeh mate, although I do have a lot of faith in this one.

 

[Mobster]

Good to see you're using sarms over anabolics at your age

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

@Archie you look great man! pushing some good workouts. i like the diet for sure

 

[bigKO1]

Good to see you're using sarms over anabolics at your age

Haha, I thought I was going to get a lot of critical comments for not pinning test as a first cycle.

 

[bigKO1]

@Archie you look great man! pushing some good workouts. i like the diet for sure

Thanks mate! Just getting started.

 

[LevButlerov]

Unfortunately, the capsules I have are 15mg. I would of went 10 although the source I got them from was the only trusted one I had at the time (Before I came across EVO). Noted on the PCT will get. Bloods attached (note. Liver marker in the red, was partying to much, have had 4 week break before starting cycle.)

In that case go with 15mgs for now. @Archie

What doses do you recommend for TUDCA/NAC? 500g/1600g?
Currently no digestive supps

Double that dose and start adding digestive supps, probiotics digestive enzymes and psyllium husk.

Will start logging food. Breakfast uploaded, Lunch will be the same.
250g Chicken tenderloin, 70g vermicelli, 80g avocado.
Calories: 612
C: 63G
P: 63G
F:13G

waiting to see your log you want to bulk or cut this way?

Only Cardio atm is walks usually 40 mins around midday and 1hr soccer every Tuesday night. Will log Todays workout later.

Start doing 10min pre and post workout walk up treadmill incline.

 

[bigKO1]

Upper B this arvo.
Below excludes warm up sets. All sets to failure. All workouts have a big focus on intensity/form and progressive overload. Average 1-2 reps extra from last workout on most exercises. Also got a bit of manflu so pretty happy overall.
Bent over row
3x sets
Reverse grip lat pulldown
2x sets
Chest fly
3x sets
Stretch Push ups
2x sets
Upright row
3 x sets
Tricep push down
3 x sets

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper B this arvo.
Below excludes warm up sets. All sets to failure. All workouts have a big focus on intensity/form and progressive overload. Average 1-2 reps extra from last workout on most exercises. Also got a bit of manflu so pretty happy overall.
Bent over row
3x sets
Reverse grip lat pulldown
2x sets
Chest fly
3x sets
Stretch Push ups
2x sets
Upright row
3 x sets
Tricep push down
3 x sets

@Archie how about weights on those?

 

[bigKO1]

Double that dose and start adding digestive supps, probiotics digestive enzymes and psyllium husk.

Shops it is tomorrow

waiting to see your log you want to bulk or cut this way?

Goal is to recomp. I would estimate myself at around 20% bodyfat and the plan is hopefully gain some muscle over the next 7weeks. Get hormones good again then into a cut.

how about weights on those?

Bent over row

3x sets

85kg for 9 reps , 6 reps, 80 for 6 reps

Reverse grip lat pulldown

2x sets

65kg for 10 reps ,6 reps

Chest fly

3x sets

50 for 8 reps, 6 reps 45 for 8 reps

Stretch Push ups

2x sets

10 reps, 8 reps

Upright row

3 x sets

42.5 for 10 reps, 7 reps, 6 reps

Tricep push down

3 x sets

30 for 9 reps 7 reps 5 reps

 

[BodyMonster34]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

bro you already look like a texas stud. i want to see red meat pushed hard. and i want to see lot lizards too @Archie

 

[ceo]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

bros we blessed to have you part of EVO family. much love on this start. can you put up some pics of your meals too? @Archie

 

[2Thick]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

@Archie i'm a big fan of this layout. the training and diet is on point. photos are looking good too. keep up the good work !

 

[Ulter]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

@Archie bodybuilding is a nice thing to get into. i like how you are using sarms and not steroids at your age. make sure you still respect them and cycle on and off. make sure you have a mini pct in place as well

 

[bigKO1]

i'm a big fan of this layout. the training and diet is on point. photos are looking good too. keep up the good work !

Thanks @2Thick , appreciate it.

bodybuilding is a nice thing to get into. i like how you are using sarms and not steroids at your age. make sure you still respect them and cycle on and off. make sure you have a mini pct in place as well

Yeh @Ulter, 100%... definitely doing PCT and monitoring everything closely.

 

[bigKO1]

bros we blessed to have you part of EVO family. much love on this start. can you put up some pics of your meals too? @Archie

Thanks @ceo , Breakfast attached.
Calories: 580
P: 58
C: 53
F: 13

 

[LevButlerov]

Shops it is tomorrow

Post pics when you have them

Goal is to recomp. I would estimate myself at around 20% bodyfat and the plan is hopefully gain some muscle over the next 7weeks. Get hormones good again then into a cut.

If you want to recomp you need to start with cutting at your bodyfat, we need to cut carbs and up protein and fats.

Bent over row

3x sets

85kg for 9 reps , 6 reps, 80 for 6 reps

Reverse grip lat pulldown

2x sets

65kg for 10 reps ,6 reps

Chest fly

3x sets

50 for 8 reps, 6 reps 45 for 8 reps

Stretch Push ups

2x sets

10 reps, 8 reps

Upright row

3 x sets

42.5 for 10 reps, 7 reps, 6 reps

Tricep push down

3 x sets

30 for 9 reps 7 reps 5 reps

@Archie good training day, the volume is intense, how much cardio?

 

[bigKO1]

If you want to recomp you need to start with cutting at your bodyfat, we need to cut carbs and up protein and fats.

Weight has been pretty stable last two weeks with strength increasing so I've been pretty happy with Diet. In saying that what do you recommend? I like having a good amount of carbs around my workout windows.

good training day, the volume is intense, how much cardio?

20 mins... I have a home gym so no tredmill walking up and down a steep long drive way if that counts

 

[LevButlerov]

Weight has been pretty stable last two weeks with strength increasing so I've been pretty happy with Diet. In saying that what do you recommend? I like having a good amount of carbs around my workout windows.

Cut by about 50 grams of carbs lets start there.

20 mins... I have a home gym so no tredmill walking up and down a steep long drive way if that counts

You can get one of those mini treadmills for home that fold, worth it. @Archie

 

[bigKO1]

You can get one of those mini treadmills for home that fold, worth it.

Ok, I'll look into it.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok, I'll look into it.

Cheap on Amazon.

 

[2Thick]

Thanks @2Thick , appreciate it.

Yeh @Ulter, 100%... definitely doing PCT and monitoring everything closely.

we appreciate you!

 

[Ulter]

Thanks @2Thick , appreciate it.

Yeh @Ulter, 100%... definitely doing PCT and monitoring everything closely.

that is smart!

 

[ceo]

Thanks @ceo , Breakfast attached.
Calories: 580
P: 58
C: 53
F: 13

bros looks good!

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

@Archie Amazing start man....looking forward to awesome updates.........

 

[RoySimpson]

Hi All,

So glad I've stumbled across this site the last few weeks and after encouragement from EVO mods I'm posting my LGD log.

I'm 22 years old 5'7" (Can't grow taller so may aswell grow wider) and 80kg. Been training naturally approx 4 years, this is my first time using any form of PED. I pretty consistently hit 8hrs sleep per night.

My Cycle is:
LGD 4033 15mg ED - 8 Weeks
MK677 25mg ED - 12 Weeks
PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks 20/20/10/10. Start day after last LGD does. (Dosage may change depnding on bloodwork results).
Bloodwork:
Pre Cycle - everything came back in normal ranges, Will be getting bloods at week 4 of LGD, after LGD last dose and after 4 weeks PCT.

Supplements:
-Multivitamin
-Fish Oil (2,700mg EPA DHA Combined)
-Zinc
-Ashwaghanda 600mg
-Vitamin D
-Creatine
-Magnesium
-Tudca 250mg, NAC 800mg

Diet:
Circa 2300 calories (running at maintenance, trying to recomp)
P: 160-180G
F: 50-80g
C: Remaining calories
I shuffle my diet around as long as im ticking my fat and protein goals and am eating at around maitenance. Typically it's ground beef/chicken, with rice, potato etc. Very repetitive but it doesn't bother me.

Training:
Upper Lower x 2 a week. Big focus on progressive overload and high intensity. Each upper and lower split for the week incorporates different exercises for that muscle group.

Goals:
- Gain muscle whilst keeping similar BF%. (Understand gains wont be crazy on a sarm only cycle)
-More importantly get a feel of what's required for a cycle (E.G. tracking bloods, on cycle support, pct etc.) to set myself up for future if I ever want to do more full on cycles.

Im into 2nd week of this and strength has increased and pumps have been through the roof. I can see why people love PED's.

Photos are no pump, and I need to learn to pose haha.

Look forward to updating you as I go along and keen for feedback / advice particulary post cycle and trying to get lipids back up.

Cheers,
Archie

@Archie Looking good bro keep the log coming!

 

[25homes]

Nice work here

 

[bigKO1]

Post pics when you have them

@LevButlerov , got psyllium husk aswell.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov , got psyllium husk aswell.

perfect start @Archie start taking ED

 

[bigKO1]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

 

[LevButlerov]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

Traps and shoulders really good width you growing

 

[stevesmi]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

@Archie good job on the lifting man! hopefully the lifting went well. strength is looking strong keep it up !

 

[Mobster]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

Meal looked like mine last night - just smaller

 

[ceo]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

bros @Archie great week of lifting much love and respect. next step for you is take to next level

 

[ROIDDERS]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

That's a very good carb meal along with protein. Good way to feed the muscles, especially after some hardcore iron training. Keep up the good work, man. Let's see more. @Archie

 

[BodyMonster34]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

bro pushing hard and eating red meat. you never gonna get negative feeling or mood. red meat make the man don't worry @Archie

 

[Ulter]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

@Archie this is looking good! what do you expect to get with 'suppression' that is going to happen on gear either way. you just want to stay motivated

 

[2Thick]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

@Archie strength going up is a very good sign. it means your body is getting stronger and thicker. vascularity improving is also a great sign

 

[bigKO1]

bro pushing hard and eating red meat. you never gonna get negative feeling or mood. red meat make the man don't worry @Archie

Hahah your not wrong!

@Archie this is looking good! what do you expect to get with 'suppression' that is going to happen on gear either way. you just want to stay motivated

Yeh 100% I know it's going to happen. I was more meaning energy, mood etc. hasn't changed yet. Definitely keeping motivated!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hahah your not wrong!

Yeh 100% I know it's going to happen. I was more meaning energy, mood etc. hasn't changed yet. Definitely keeping motivated!

More red meat = more growth

 

[Ulter]

Hahah your not wrong!

Yeh 100% I know it's going to happen. I was more meaning energy, mood etc. hasn't changed yet. Definitely keeping motivated!

your mood seems happy on here

 

[BodyMonster34]

Hahah your not wrong!

Yeh 100% I know it's going to happen. I was more meaning energy, mood etc. hasn't changed yet. Definitely keeping motivated!

bro red meat A+

 

[25homes]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

Good work here

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

@Archie Strong back bro.....good work on diet.........

 

[RoySimpson]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

@Archie definition is coming in nice bro!

 

[bigKO1]

Strong back bro.....good work on diet........

definition is coming in nice bro!

Thanks legends!

 

[bigKO1]

Upper B today + the pose I need to work on the most. Strength is still on the up and 2-3 kg heavier since start of cycle which is no surprise with the Mk.

 

[ballin2504]

Start of week 3 on cycle
Upper A today
Strength is continuing to rise on most lifts and pump is through the roof. Might just be in my head but I feel like vascularity has increased also.
No suppressions signs or any negative side effects as yet.
I wish you all a great week of lifting.

@Archie nice update man. Keep it up

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper B today + the pose I need to work on the most. Strength is still on the up and 2-3 kg heavier since start of cycle which is no surprise with the Mk.

@Archie upper day went well looks like whats your macros on the day? arms and shoulders are HUGE!

 

[bigKO1]

@Archie upper day went well looks like whats your macros on the day? arms and shoulders are HUGE!

Cheers making me blush bro.
Macros were
2200 cals
P: 188g
C: 150g
F: 50g

 

[LevButlerov]

Cheers making me blush bro.
Macros were
2200 cals
P: 188g
C: 150g
F: 50g

It's true, you have some real mass on you
but we need to get the protein up @Archie

 

[bigKO1]

It's true, you have some real mass on you
but we need to get the protein up @Archie

You rekn? I'm already well above most recommended ranges.

 

[LevButlerov]

You rekn? I'm already well above most recommended ranges.

20 grams 1 protein bar you'll kill it

 

[bigKO1]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

 

[LevButlerov]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

I'm looking at your training, not listing cardio?
@Archie you are looking big in the pic, making gains. What are you eating?

Bloods I would get them next week why not.

 

[bigKO1]

I'm looking at your training, not listing cardio?
@Archie you are looking big in the pic, making gains. What are you eating?

Bloods I would get them next week why not.

Cardio is walking incline treadmill 30 mins x 5 days a week.
Food is same but protein upped as suggested.
Ok, will get bloods.

 

[LevButlerov]

Cardio is walking incline treadmill 30 mins x 5 days a week.
Food is same but protein upped as suggested.
Ok, will get bloods.

try to get more cardio on weekend.

 

[stevesmi]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

food looks good to be honest. i'm glad to see the protein and rice. it is looking good! @Archie

 

[Mobster]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

Do both - mid-cycle and post cycle - if you can

 

[ceo]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

@Archie bros solid work. glad to see lgd working well for you. that the way it should be done

 

[BodyMonster34]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

bro you got a nice size back. muscles look big an strong. @Archie you showing how it done

 

[2Thick]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

@Archie I don't see the point of you getting blood work.What exactly are you trying to see?Are you worried that your sarms might be fake? bloods wont' show that

 

[Ulter]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

food is looking solid. lgd is a good one if you want mild results and sides. you feel good so no need to get bloods @Archie unless you are curious

 

[ROIDDERS]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

good to see you are making out well on lgd. its a very good sarm. always been one of my favorites @Archie

 

[SPOONMAN366]

I remember my first sarm lgd cycle
Added cardarine also
My goodness
The leg gains the trap gains
Was definitely something else

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I remember my first sarm lgd cycle
Added cardarine also
My goodness
The leg gains the trap gains
Was definitely something else

@SPOONMAN366 hey brother why havent you posted your LOG yet? we have been waiting nothing!

 

[RoySimpson]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

@Archie stay on that grind bro!

 

[ballin2504]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

@Archie i really liked lgd when I ran it. Made some great gains

 

[Noah Wixx]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

Just depends i typically on cycle get them before and mudway through to make needed adjustments

 

[LevButlerov]

I remember my first sarm lgd cycle
Added cardarine also
My goodness
The leg gains the trap gains
Was definitely something else

@SPOONMAN366 yes you ok? what happened to your LOG?

@SPOONMAN366 hey brother why havent you posted your LOG yet? we have been waiting nothing!

 

[25homes]

Gym sessions have been great. This is 4th week on LGD so nearly halfway through. Was planning on getting bloods early next week. Do you think I should do this or wait till after cycle? I feel great ATM, and will save me a couple $$.

Good update

 

[bigKO1]

Thanks for the replies Guys! Opting not to get bloods at this stage (only 3.5 weeks left of cycle will get them done then).
Today was Leg day, need to grow my Chicken Legs Lol.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for the replies Guys! Opting not to get bloods at this stage (only 3.5 weeks left of cycle will get them done then).
Today was Leg day, need to grow my Chicken Legs Lol.

Good meals @Archie looks clean, and why chicken legs? they good legs

 

[bigKO1]

Good meals @Archie looks clean, and why chicken legs? they good legs

Haha, probably just my body dysmorphia

 

[LevButlerov]

Haha, probably just my body dysmorphia

we all have body dysmorphia thats why we here lol

 

[bigKO1]

Cycle still been going good. Actually starting to lean out slightly whilst still picking up strength. Been trying to eat at maintenance but must be in a slight deficit. Post cycle will begin in just over two weeks have Nolvadex on hand and planning on doing 20/20/10/10 for 4 weeks (blood work results may change this ) was also looking at Cardarine to help with endurance whilst trying to get hormones back to normal. Keen to hear people's thoughts on this.

 

[LevButlerov]

Cycle still been going good. Actually starting to lean out slightly whilst still picking up strength. Been trying to eat at maintenance but must be in a slight deficit. Post cycle will begin in just over two weeks have Nolvadex on hand and planning on doing 20/20/10/10 for 4 weeks (blood work results may change this ) was also looking at Cardarine to help with endurance whilst trying to get hormones back to normal. Keen to hear people's thoughts on this.

@Archie 1 meal pic and 1 pic of you in 2 weeks almost?
what happened to training/ and can we get a shirt off pic please
on the pct, tamoxifen alone is NOT enough, you will not recover.

 

[bigKO1]

@Archie 1 meal pic and 1 pic of you in 2 weeks almost?
what happened to training/ and can we get a shirt off pic please
on the pct, tamoxifen alone is NOT enough, you will not recover.

Training etc. has still been consistent 4 x weeks just nothing major to log. Ok will get pic.
What a long with Nolva then would you suggest?

 

[LevButlerov]

Training etc. has still been consistent 4 x weeks just nothing major to log. Ok will get pic.

Always something to log on training
waiting on pic.

What a long with Nolva then would you suggest?

@Archie you need nolvadex clomid hcgenerate minimum.

 

[bigKO1]

Always something to log on training
waiting on pic.

True true. I'm weighing in more consistently around 80 now compared to 82 at start of cycle. Pretty pleased with this considering strength is going up every session.

Pics attached now @LevButlerov. Was after an upper session.

you need nolvadex clomid hcgenerate minimum

Ok will get hcg. So you don't think Nolva + clomid is overkill for a LGD only cycle? I guess I should go by what bloods say anyway not just guess.

 

[LevButlerov]

Pics attached now @LevButlerov. Was after an upper session.

Can you do a full body shot? we not seeing your lower body at all.

Ok will get hcg. So you don't think Nolva + clomid is overkill for a LGD only cycle? I guess I should go by what bloods say anyway not just guess.

I said HCGenerate not HCG, HCG is estrogenic.

 

[bigKO1]

Can you do a full body shot? we not seeing your lower body at all

Attached. Leaning out is going to be my focus after this cycle.

I said HCGenerate not HCG, HCG is estrogenic.

Yeh lol sorry, I abbreviated it.

 

[bigKO1]

Will post full body tonight

 

[LevButlerov]

Attached. Leaning out is going to be my focus after this cycle.

Yeh lol sorry, I abbreviated it.

Looking good, lean

 

[bigKO1]

Photos up @LevButlerov. Pec unevenness throws me off a bit on lat spread but think this is genetic and not much I can do about it.
Legs need a lot of work.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Photos up @LevButlerov. Pec unevenness throws me off a bit on lat spread but think this is genetic and not much I can do about it.
Legs need a lot of work.

front lat spready does you good brother
i think you should recomp more i scrolled up and a few pages dont see your diet at all
@Archie for you food is the big factor

 

[bigKO1]

front lat spready does you good brother
i think you should recomp more i scrolled up and a few pages dont see your diet at all
@Archie for you food is the big factor

Food is very repetitive for me. Pretty much ground beef chicken eggs and then another source of red meat for tea. I've attached a few recent meals. After cycle I'll be doing a cut and then aiming to make gains whilst eating around maintenance over the summer.

 

[bigKO1]

Bloods are in and Test is absolutely tanked lol. Haven't felt much side effect wise but I guess that's why you get bloodwork. I'll be getting Clomid now as well as the nolva for PCT as advised. Also, will hold off on the cut until hormones are on the up.

 

[bigKO1]

Updated plan is Nolva at 40mg and Clomid at 25 + HCGenerate for 6 weeks get bloodwork and determine next steps from there.

 

[LevButlerov]

Food is very repetitive for me. Pretty much ground beef chicken eggs and then another source of red meat for tea. I've attached a few recent meals. After cycle I'll be doing a cut and then aiming to make gains whilst eating around maintenance over the summer.

This food looks good, very high carb though how much carbs you eating? @Archie

Bloods are in and Test is absolutely tanked lol. Haven't felt much side effect wise but I guess that's why you get bloodwork. I'll be getting Clomid now as well as the nolva for PCT as advised. Also, will hold off on the cut until hormones are on the up.

We cant open PDFs can you screen shot and post please? I dont know why IT allows people to post PDFs.

Updated plan is Nolva at 40mg and Clomid at 25 + HCGenerate for 6 weeks get bloodwork and determine next steps from there.

This is a good plan, but you started when?

 

[bigKO1]

This food looks good, very high carb though how much carbs you eating? @Archie

Carbs are around 200-220g, the plan was get a good amount of Carbs in at maintenance calories so when I cut I can keep Protein/Fats the same so most of my calories cut are from carbs and my hunger levels don't crash so much.

We cant open PDFs can you screen shot and post please? I dont know why IT allows people to post PDFs.

Screenshots attached, all other markers are within range so I've just attached the ones in red. I've attached pre-cycle as well so as you can see suppression is extremely high.

This is a good plan, but you started when?

Haven't started yet, plan was to start Saturday last LGD dose is this Tomorrow. Any other natural supplements recommended? I'll also be taking Cardarine 10mg and MK677 10mg with PCT to try and keep endurance/strength post cycle to help keep as much of the muscle gained as possible.

 

[LevButlerov]

Carbs are around 200-220g, the plan was get a good amount of Carbs in at maintenance calories so when I cut I can keep Protein/Fats the same so most of my calories cut are from carbs and my hunger levels don't crash so much.

You can keep protein at 250+ track it please.

Screenshots attached, all other markers are within range so I've just attached the ones in red. I've attached pre-cycle as well so as you can see suppression is extremely high.

Thank you but no e2 or progesterone or alt ast?

Haven't started yet, plan was to start Saturday last LGD dose is this Tomorrow. Any other natural supplements recommended? I'll also be taking Cardarine 10mg and MK677 10mg with PCT to try and keep endurance/strength post cycle to help keep as much of the muscle gained as possible.

Start saturday it's a good start @Archie if you want to add something that will help organ liver support is a must, get n2guard which is all in 1 cycle support https://n2guard.com

 

[bigKO1]

Thank you but no e2 or progesterone or alt ast?

Sorry attached now, thought they attached before.

Start saturday it's a good start @Archie if you want to add something that will help organ liver support is a must, get n2guard which is all in 1 cycle support https://n2guard.com

I'm taking Tudca and NAC hoping this will improve AST, hoping Cardarine improves HDL . n2gaurd needed as well as this?

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry attached now, thought they attached before.

I'm taking Tudca and NAC hoping this will improve AST, hoping Cardarine improves HDL . n2gaurd needed as well as this?

Bloods aren't bad, but TUDCA and nac not the only thing you need for cycle support, you need about 20+ ingredients which n2guard has, instead of going 1 by 1 just get the n2guard use lower doses and the bottle lasts 2 months easy. @Archie