Approved Log Going from TRT to first cycle Journal

[Nezz4488]

So, this will be my first cycle.
For a little background info: I’m 33m, 6’, 185lb, fairly lean. I’m currently on TRT: test cyp 180mg/week (tues/Fri), enclomiphene 25mg (m/w/f), and Anastrazole .5mg (Thursday).
My diet is definitely in check. No sugar, no highly processed garbage, bare minimum of saturated fats. Also take 10mg creatine every day along with whey protein post workout. I do a PPL then rest routine and push my sets to failure in the gym. Average session ranges from 1-2 hours depending on energy levels.
I attached my first (baseline levels, no trt) and second (most recent, TRT levels) lab results to get an idea of what’s going on so far.

My goals are to gain mass and size. Also, I would possibly like to restart enclomiphene post cycle to get natural test production working again. I want to have kids one day but for now I’m working on me.

I have gathered a damn good bit of info but it is just a pebble in the ocean that is the knowledge of endocrinology. So any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I want to do this the right way and not jump in head first.

Here’s a little run down of what I was thinking for the cycle:

Baseline (current TRT Phase)

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate: 180 mg/week (split Tues & Fri)
Enclomiphene: 25 mg M/W/F
Anastrazole: .5mg Thurs

Enhanced Phase (Weeks 1–12)

Testosterone Cypionate: 300–400mg/week (split 2x)
Primobolan Enanthate: 400mg/week (split 2x)

Anastrazole: paused (use only if needed)
Enclomiphene: paused

Bloodwork: weeks 3, 7, and 12?(maybe?) into cycle

Transition Phase (Weeks 13–14)

Drop testosterone back to TRT dose (180 mg/week)
Discontinue primobolan
Reintroduce enclomiphene (25 mg M/W/F)

Also bloodwork at 3-4 weeks post-cycle to assess recovery and health markers

Like I said this is my first time building a cycle so any and all advice is welcome. I want to do this the right way the first time and not fuck anything up unnecessarily.

 

[s.gentz]

This is you?
https://t-nation.com/t/going-from-trt-to-first-cycle/291787
Your gonna get the same answers here.
Your current TRT program is not ideal.
For a first cycle take test only and maybe add in an oral later in the cycle if all is going well.

 

[LevButlerov]

So, this will be my first cycle.
For a little background info: I’m 33m, 6’, 185lb, fairly lean. I’m currently on TRT: test cyp 180mg/week (tues/Fri), enclomiphene 25mg (m/w/f), and Anastrazole .5mg (Thursday).
My diet is definitely in check. No sugar, no highly processed garbage, bare minimum of saturated fats. Also take 10mg creatine every day along with whey protein post workout. I do a PPL then rest routine and push my sets to failure in the gym. Average session ranges from 1-2 hours depending on energy levels.
I attached my first (baseline levels, no trt) and second (most recent, TRT levels) lab results to get an idea of what’s going on so far.

My goals are to gain mass and size. Also, I would possibly like to restart enclomiphene post cycle to get natural test production working again. I want to have kids one day but for now I’m working on me.

I have gathered a damn good bit of info but it is just a pebble in the ocean that is the knowledge of endocrinology. So any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I want to do this the right way and not jump in head first.

Here’s a little run down of what I was thinking for the cycle:

Baseline (current TRT Phase)

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate: 180 mg/week (split Tues & Fri)
Enclomiphene: 25 mg M/W/F
Anastrazole: .5mg Thurs

Enhanced Phase (Weeks 1–12)

Testosterone Cypionate: 300–400mg/week (split 2x)
Primobolan Enanthate: 400mg/week (split 2x)

Anastrazole: paused (use only if needed)
Enclomiphene: paused

Bloodwork: weeks 3, 7, and 12?(maybe?) into cycle

Transition Phase (Weeks 13–14)

Drop testosterone back to TRT dose (180 mg/week)
Discontinue primobolan
Reintroduce enclomiphene (25 mg M/W/F)

Also bloodwork at 3-4 weeks post-cycle to assess recovery and health markers

Like I said this is my first time building a cycle so any and all advice is welcome. I want to do this the right way the first time and not fuck anything up unnecessarily.

@Nezz4488 welcome to the EVO family happy to have you share. dont worry we are not T-nation here, they are full of bots and AI bs there, like stupid reddit but stupider lol

I think your cycle switch is possible from TRT but to start off, can you share with us your picture face blurred? we need to see what your base is, what are we working with.

 

[Nezz4488]

@Nezz4488 welcome to the EVO family happy to have you share. dont worry we are not T-nation here, they are full of bots and AI bs there, like stupid reddit but stupider lol

I think your cycle switch is possible from TRT but to start off, can you share with us your picture face blurred? we need to see what your base is, what are we working with.

Sounds good! I've been researching everywhere for the best info so hopefully I've found a good home here, lol. And yup! Here's what I'm looking like now

 

[LevButlerov]

Sounds good! I've been researching everywhere for the best info so hopefully I've found a good home here, lol. And yup! Here's what I'm looking like now

You look really good, strong tight body and lean, you have the look but to start off lets get dialed in more. @Nezz4488

Test and primo is too much and I think we need to see more of your diet and training in way more detail to help you dial in the first cycle.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

 

[Nezz4488]

You look really good, strong tight body and lean, you have the look but to start off lets get dialed in more. @Nezz4488

Test and primo is too much and I think we need to see more of your diet and training in way more detail to help you dial in the first cycle.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

Thank you!
And ok, so diet. This is one of the things I got fairly down pact before I even started lifting. Started at around 220lbs with lots of fkin fat and no remorse for what I ate. But, I made a few lifestyle changes, started keto diet, and got down to about 170lbs. Stopped keto, started eating in a small surplus.
This is when I actually started working out. At first with only home workouts/dumbbells then I got to the point where it wasn't enough. Got a gym membership and really started lifting and now I'm up to what you see now and about 185lbs.
I was tracking macros at first but it became tedious so I got a good idea of what I need to eat everyday and just ran with it. I'll have to start a log again to track macros and I definitely will during the cycle.
But mostly my diet consists of 93% hamburger meat, chicken, rice,Greek yogurt, skim milk. No highly processed garbage, no sugar.
Training
In the gym I only use the machines or dumbbells because I absolutely love when I push my body to failure and to get that tight pump is a great feeling. Also, I CANNOT STAND when I feel like I haven't pushed myself to the max. Eats away at me.
Keep in mind all my sets in the gym are pushed to failure maintaining perfect form and getting the best stretch possible while being safe. Once I do my 3 sets on one workout I move to the next machine and then do it over again till I can't or run out of energy. Usually when this happens though I drop the weight and keep going. Also, before I workout I try to atleast do a half mile jogging cardio but I've been slacking lately on this.
Push:
Tricep Pushdown: 60-66lbs 8-10 reps
Overhead Tricep Extensions (straight bar): 60-70lbs 8-10 reps
Seated Decline Press: 180lbs 6-10 reps
Seated Delt Machine: 180lbs 6-8 reps
Pull:
Baysian Cable Curls: 30lbs each arm 8-10
Lat Pulldowns: 180lbs 8-10 reps (can rep with 200 for about 6 but form doesn't stay perfect)
Seated Delt Machine(rear delts): 100-120lbs 8-10 reps
Seated Lat Pulls/rows(pull from the front instead of overhead) 140lbs 8-10 reps
Legs:
Seated Leg Press: 180, 200, 220lbs (step up the weight each time) 8-10 reps
Standing Calf Raise: 80-100lbs 8-10 reps
Seated Quad Extension?: 180-200lbs 6-10 reps
Seated Hamstring Curls?: 180-200lbs 10-15 reps
Rest Day
Supplements
Creatine 10mg daily
Whey Protein shake 1-2 times a day
I know I probably need to take multi vitamins and something to support joint health but need some advice on this area.

Other than that I think that covers everything. Sorry for the excessive reply; I want to be as thorough as possible.

 

[Nezz4488]

This is you?
https://t-nation.com/t/going-from-trt-to-first-cycle/291787
Your gonna get the same answers here.
Your current TRT program is not ideal.
For a first cycle take test only and maybe add in an oral later in the cycle if all is going well.

Yup, that's me. I just noticed your response, sorry. And I just figured to post here and there for a little more resource coverage.

 

[Mobster]

What's your thinking with you using Enclomiphene?

 

[Nezz4488]

What's your thinking with you using Enclomiphene?

Only taking it because the TRT doctor I'm going to right now suggested it. $320 a month is ridiculous. That's why I'm leaving the clinic and getting my own gear.

 

[stevesmi]

So, this will be my first cycle.
For a little background info: I’m 33m, 6’, 185lb, fairly lean. I’m currently on TRT: test cyp 180mg/week (tues/Fri), enclomiphene 25mg (m/w/f), and Anastrazole .5mg (Thursday).
My diet is definitely in check. No sugar, no highly processed garbage, bare minimum of saturated fats. Also take 10mg creatine every day along with whey protein post workout. I do a PPL then rest routine and push my sets to failure in the gym. Average session ranges from 1-2 hours depending on energy levels.
I attached my first (baseline levels, no trt) and second (most recent, TRT levels) lab results to get an idea of what’s going on so far.

My goals are to gain mass and size. Also, I would possibly like to restart enclomiphene post cycle to get natural test production working again. I want to have kids one day but for now I’m working on me.

I have gathered a damn good bit of info but it is just a pebble in the ocean that is the knowledge of endocrinology. So any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I want to do this the right way and not jump in head first.

Here’s a little run down of what I was thinking for the cycle:

Baseline (current TRT Phase)

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate: 180 mg/week (split Tues & Fri)
Enclomiphene: 25 mg M/W/F
Anastrazole: .5mg Thurs

Enhanced Phase (Weeks 1–12)

Testosterone Cypionate: 300–400mg/week (split 2x)
Primobolan Enanthate: 400mg/week (split 2x)

Anastrazole: paused (use only if needed)
Enclomiphene: paused

Bloodwork: weeks 3, 7, and 12?(maybe?) into cycle

Transition Phase (Weeks 13–14)

Drop testosterone back to TRT dose (180 mg/week)
Discontinue primobolan
Reintroduce enclomiphene (25 mg M/W/F)

Also bloodwork at 3-4 weeks post-cycle to assess recovery and health markers

Like I said this is my first time building a cycle so any and all advice is welcome. I want to do this the right way the first time and not fuck anything up unnecessarily.

@Nezz4488 just keep an eye when you are on base trt. you might be crashing estrogen using a serm and AI together like that. might make more sense on trt to just lower the test dose where you dont need anything else

 

[BodyMonster34]

Sounds good! I've been researching everywhere for the best info so hopefully I've found a good home here, lol. And yup! Here's what I'm looking like now

bro you look good! lean physique. need to put on some more meat. you know about tren?

 

[ceo]

So, this will be my first cycle.
For a little background info: I’m 33m, 6’, 185lb, fairly lean. I’m currently on TRT: test cyp 180mg/week (tues/Fri), enclomiphene 25mg (m/w/f), and Anastrazole .5mg (Thursday).
My diet is definitely in check. No sugar, no highly processed garbage, bare minimum of saturated fats. Also take 10mg creatine every day along with whey protein post workout. I do a PPL then rest routine and push my sets to failure in the gym. Average session ranges from 1-2 hours depending on energy levels.
I attached my first (baseline levels, no trt) and second (most recent, TRT levels) lab results to get an idea of what’s going on so far.

My goals are to gain mass and size. Also, I would possibly like to restart enclomiphene post cycle to get natural test production working again. I want to have kids one day but for now I’m working on me.

I have gathered a damn good bit of info but it is just a pebble in the ocean that is the knowledge of endocrinology. So any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I want to do this the right way and not jump in head first.

Here’s a little run down of what I was thinking for the cycle:

Baseline (current TRT Phase)

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate: 180 mg/week (split Tues & Fri)
Enclomiphene: 25 mg M/W/F
Anastrazole: .5mg Thurs

Enhanced Phase (Weeks 1–12)

Testosterone Cypionate: 300–400mg/week (split 2x)
Primobolan Enanthate: 400mg/week (split 2x)

Anastrazole: paused (use only if needed)
Enclomiphene: paused

Bloodwork: weeks 3, 7, and 12?(maybe?) into cycle

Transition Phase (Weeks 13–14)

Drop testosterone back to TRT dose (180 mg/week)
Discontinue primobolan
Reintroduce enclomiphene (25 mg M/W/F)

Also bloodwork at 3-4 weeks post-cycle to assess recovery and health markers

Like I said this is my first time building a cycle so any and all advice is welcome. I want to do this the right way the first time and not fuck anything up unnecessarily.

@Nezz4488 bros much love for this setup. primo and test not bad. you can also go with EQ and test but log this one

 

[ROIDDERS]

So, this will be my first cycle.
For a little background info: I’m 33m, 6’, 185lb, fairly lean. I’m currently on TRT: test cyp 180mg/week (tues/Fri), enclomiphene 25mg (m/w/f), and Anastrazole .5mg (Thursday).
My diet is definitely in check. No sugar, no highly processed garbage, bare minimum of saturated fats. Also take 10mg creatine every day along with whey protein post workout. I do a PPL then rest routine and push my sets to failure in the gym. Average session ranges from 1-2 hours depending on energy levels.
I attached my first (baseline levels, no trt) and second (most recent, TRT levels) lab results to get an idea of what’s going on so far.

My goals are to gain mass and size. Also, I would possibly like to restart enclomiphene post cycle to get natural test production working again. I want to have kids one day but for now I’m working on me.

I have gathered a damn good bit of info but it is just a pebble in the ocean that is the knowledge of endocrinology. So any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I want to do this the right way and not jump in head first.

Here’s a little run down of what I was thinking for the cycle:

Baseline (current TRT Phase)

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate: 180 mg/week (split Tues & Fri)
Enclomiphene: 25 mg M/W/F
Anastrazole: .5mg Thurs

Enhanced Phase (Weeks 1–12)

Testosterone Cypionate: 300–400mg/week (split 2x)
Primobolan Enanthate: 400mg/week (split 2x)

Anastrazole: paused (use only if needed)
Enclomiphene: paused

Bloodwork: weeks 3, 7, and 12?(maybe?) into cycle

Transition Phase (Weeks 13–14)

Drop testosterone back to TRT dose (180 mg/week)
Discontinue primobolan
Reintroduce enclomiphene (25 mg M/W/F)

Also bloodwork at 3-4 weeks post-cycle to assess recovery and health markers

Like I said this is my first time building a cycle so any and all advice is welcome. I want to do this the right way the first time and not fuck anything up unnecessarily.

@Nezz4488 looks good on this one man. i'm impressed with your steroid stack. just don't overdo the SERM

 

[2Thick]

So, this will be my first cycle.
For a little background info: I’m 33m, 6’, 185lb, fairly lean. I’m currently on TRT: test cyp 180mg/week (tues/Fri), enclomiphene 25mg (m/w/f), and Anastrazole .5mg (Thursday).
My diet is definitely in check. No sugar, no highly processed garbage, bare minimum of saturated fats. Also take 10mg creatine every day along with whey protein post workout. I do a PPL then rest routine and push my sets to failure in the gym. Average session ranges from 1-2 hours depending on energy levels.
I attached my first (baseline levels, no trt) and second (most recent, TRT levels) lab results to get an idea of what’s going on so far.

My goals are to gain mass and size. Also, I would possibly like to restart enclomiphene post cycle to get natural test production working again. I want to have kids one day but for now I’m working on me.

I have gathered a damn good bit of info but it is just a pebble in the ocean that is the knowledge of endocrinology. So any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I want to do this the right way and not jump in head first.

Here’s a little run down of what I was thinking for the cycle:

Baseline (current TRT Phase)

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate: 180 mg/week (split Tues & Fri)
Enclomiphene: 25 mg M/W/F
Anastrazole: .5mg Thurs

Enhanced Phase (Weeks 1–12)

Testosterone Cypionate: 300–400mg/week (split 2x)
Primobolan Enanthate: 400mg/week (split 2x)

Anastrazole: paused (use only if needed)
Enclomiphene: paused

Bloodwork: weeks 3, 7, and 12?(maybe?) into cycle

Transition Phase (Weeks 13–14)

Drop testosterone back to TRT dose (180 mg/week)
Discontinue primobolan
Reintroduce enclomiphene (25 mg M/W/F)

Also bloodwork at 3-4 weeks post-cycle to assess recovery and health markers

Like I said this is my first time building a cycle so any and all advice is welcome. I want to do this the right way the first time and not fuck anything up unnecessarily.

@Nezz4488 i give you a good credit. but you don't need to get bloods that many times lol. just a waste of money

 

[Ulter]

So, this will be my first cycle.
For a little background info: I’m 33m, 6’, 185lb, fairly lean. I’m currently on TRT: test cyp 180mg/week (tues/Fri), enclomiphene 25mg (m/w/f), and Anastrazole .5mg (Thursday).
My diet is definitely in check. No sugar, no highly processed garbage, bare minimum of saturated fats. Also take 10mg creatine every day along with whey protein post workout. I do a PPL then rest routine and push my sets to failure in the gym. Average session ranges from 1-2 hours depending on energy levels.
I attached my first (baseline levels, no trt) and second (most recent, TRT levels) lab results to get an idea of what’s going on so far.

My goals are to gain mass and size. Also, I would possibly like to restart enclomiphene post cycle to get natural test production working again. I want to have kids one day but for now I’m working on me.

I have gathered a damn good bit of info but it is just a pebble in the ocean that is the knowledge of endocrinology. So any advice/suggestions are greatly appreciated. I want to do this the right way and not jump in head first.

Here’s a little run down of what I was thinking for the cycle:

Baseline (current TRT Phase)

Testosterone Enanthate/Cypionate: 180 mg/week (split Tues & Fri)
Enclomiphene: 25 mg M/W/F
Anastrazole: .5mg Thurs

Enhanced Phase (Weeks 1–12)

Testosterone Cypionate: 300–400mg/week (split 2x)
Primobolan Enanthate: 400mg/week (split 2x)

Anastrazole: paused (use only if needed)
Enclomiphene: paused

Bloodwork: weeks 3, 7, and 12?(maybe?) into cycle

Transition Phase (Weeks 13–14)

Drop testosterone back to TRT dose (180 mg/week)
Discontinue primobolan
Reintroduce enclomiphene (25 mg M/W/F)

Also bloodwork at 3-4 weeks post-cycle to assess recovery and health markers

Like I said this is my first time building a cycle so any and all advice is welcome. I want to do this the right way the first time and not fuck anything up unnecessarily.

well if you want mass this is a good stack but there are better options. i would switch primo to EQ. EQ is better here

 

[LevButlerov]

Thank you!
And ok, so diet. This is one of the things I got fairly down pact before I even started lifting. Started at around 220lbs with lots of fkin fat and no remorse for what I ate. But, I made a few lifestyle changes, started keto diet, and got down to about 170lbs. Stopped keto, started eating in a small surplus.
This is when I actually started working out. At first with only home workouts/dumbbells then I got to the point where it wasn't enough. Got a gym membership and really started lifting and now I'm up to what you see now and about 185lbs.
I was tracking macros at first but it became tedious so I got a good idea of what I need to eat everyday and just ran with it. I'll have to start a log again to track macros and I definitely will during the cycle.
But mostly my diet consists of 93% hamburger meat, chicken, rice,Greek yogurt, skim milk. No highly processed garbage, no sugar.
Training
In the gym I only use the machines or dumbbells because I absolutely love when I push my body to failure and to get that tight pump is a great feeling. Also, I CANNOT STAND when I feel like I haven't pushed myself to the max. Eats away at me.
Keep in mind all my sets in the gym are pushed to failure maintaining perfect form and getting the best stretch possible while being safe. Once I do my 3 sets on one workout I move to the next machine and then do it over again till I can't or run out of energy. Usually when this happens though I drop the weight and keep going. Also, before I workout I try to atleast do a half mile jogging cardio but I've been slacking lately on this.
Push:
Tricep Pushdown: 60-66lbs 8-10 reps
Overhead Tricep Extensions (straight bar): 60-70lbs 8-10 reps
Seated Decline Press: 180lbs 6-10 reps
Seated Delt Machine: 180lbs 6-8 reps
Pull:
Baysian Cable Curls: 30lbs each arm 8-10
Lat Pulldowns: 180lbs 8-10 reps (can rep with 200 for about 6 but form doesn't stay perfect)
Seated Delt Machine(rear delts): 100-120lbs 8-10 reps
Seated Lat Pulls/rows(pull from the front instead of overhead) 140lbs 8-10 reps
Legs:
Seated Leg Press: 180, 200, 220lbs (step up the weight each time) 8-10 reps
Standing Calf Raise: 80-100lbs 8-10 reps
Seated Quad Extension?: 180-200lbs 6-10 reps
Seated Hamstring Curls?: 180-200lbs 10-15 reps
Rest Day
Supplements
Creatine 10mg daily
Whey Protein shake 1-2 times a day
I know I probably need to take multi vitamins and something to support joint health but need some advice on this area.

Other than that I think that covers everything. Sorry for the excessive reply; I want to be as thorough as possible.

@Nezz4488 thank you for sharing
this covers some but again, the food is very general please start tracking macros and updating us.

Same with training thats general I get it but lets start actually seeing you do the training and update us.

Supplements did you see the list I gave you have digestive aids multis? use cycle support like n2guard?

 

[Nezz4488]

@Nezz4488 bros much love for this setup. primo and test not bad. you can also go with EQ and test but log this one

I've seen a lot of people talking about eq and test. Think this would be a better route? I choose primo because it's non-aromatizing and has minimal side effects.

 

[Nezz4488]

well if you want mass this is a good stack but there are better options. i would switch primo to EQ. EQ is better here

I just might do that because it seems like that's what everybody is suggesting. How are the side effects when compared to primo? And any suggestions on dosing?

 

[ballin2504]

Sounds good! I've been researching everywhere for the best info so hopefully I've found a good home here, lol. And yup! Here's what I'm looking like now

We are glad to have you man. Alot of good people here on this forum

 

[LevButlerov]

I've seen a lot of people talking about eq and test. Think this would be a better route? I choose primo because it's non-aromatizing and has minimal side effects.

EQ and test is much better, primobolan is trash and overrated. EQ is at least something you'll get non-aromatizing but high quality results. @Nezz4488 Been waiting hows your training diet?

 

[Nezz4488]

@Nezz4488 thank you for sharing
this covers some but again, the food is very general please start tracking macros and updating us.

Same with training thats general I get it but lets start actually seeing you do the training and update us.

Supplements did you see the list I gave you have digestive aids multis? use cycle support like n2guard?

Heyy, sorry for the delay. I work third shift and it throws my sleep hours off on the weekends. I wind up sleeping all day. But I just downloaded myfitnesspal so I'll keep an eye on the macros. Will have to grab all the right supplements this weekend. Also! I been looking into EQ and there's about as many horror stories on it as there are tren. Lol. Everybody's experience here with it good?
And my training is pretty much what I listed above. Push, pull, legs rest, repeat.

 

[Nezz4488]

EQ and test is much better, primobolan is trash and overrated. EQ is at least something you'll get non-aromatizing but high quality results. @Nezz4488 Been waiting hows your training diet?

Hey, sorry for the delay. I thought I had replied but it didn't post for some reason. But anyway, I downloaded myfitnesspal so I'll have to update you on the exact macros in a few days? And with EQ are there higher risks when it comes to side effects? That was one of the main reasons I was hoping to go with primo due to its lower side effects.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Heyy, sorry for the delay. I work third shift and it throws my sleep hours off on the weekends. I wind up sleeping all day. But I just downloaded myfitnesspal so I'll keep an eye on the macros. Will have to grab all the right supplements this weekend. Also! I been looking into EQ and there's about as many horror stories on it as there are tren. Lol. Everybody's experience here with it good?
And my training is pretty much what I listed above. Push, pull, legs rest, repeat.

tren horror? depends on the dose brother if you microdose you be fine @Nezz4488

 

[ceo]

I've seen a lot of people talking about eq and test. Think this would be a better route? I choose primo because it's non-aromatizing and has minimal side effects.

bros i would try both. you might like eq though better

 

[Ulter]

I just might do that because it seems like that's what everybody is suggesting. How are the side effects when compared to primo? And any suggestions on dosing?

sides are dependent on the person and dosaging

 

[Nezz4488]

bros i would try both. you might like eq though better

Yea, I guess I'll go with EQ. Any recommendations on dosing starting out?

 

[LevButlerov]

Yea, I guess I'll go with EQ. Any recommendations on dosing starting out?

Start with 100mgs and move up to 200mgs slowly.

 

[ceo]

Yea, I guess I'll go with EQ. Any recommendations on dosing starting out?

bros EQ 300-400mgs always solid

 

[Nezz4488]

Start with 100mgs and move up to 200mgs slowly.

This sounds like a good safe route. Should I bump the test to 300? Also, I have the Anastrazole on hand right now because that doctor had me taking it every week. Should I stop the enclomiphene and Anastrazole, start the cycle, then check bloods about 4 weeks in to see where my resting levels are and decide about the Anastrazole from that point? Just wondering because my pre-trt E2 level was a fkin 6 and after being on trt dose test with the enclomiphene and taking Anastrazole every week my E2 rose up to 29. Is that considered a high aromatization rate or pretty standard?
Also, I notice you have the domestic supply badge. I was about to place my order but it's down to domestic or Usroids. Only reason I mention US is because they have a buy 3 get 1 free sale right now and they are like $30 cheaper per vial right now.

 

[Nezz4488]

bros EQ 300-400mgs always solid

Daaaaamn, 300-400? Trying to go beast mode. Lol. Nah but I might try to bump it up higher. Just wanna make sure I react well to it first.

 

[Nezz4488]

Also, I went ahead and started to checkout on Napsgear and it said to make sure the name is who lives at the address. Do y'all put your actual name on the order with home address?

 

[ceo]

Daaaaamn, 300-400? Trying to go beast mode. Lol. Nah but I might try to bump it up higher. Just wanna make sure I react well to it first.

Also, I went ahead and started to checkout on Napsgear and it said to make sure the name is who lives at the address. Do y'all put your actual name on the order with home address?

bros if international they might make you sign for it. so smart to put real name. for domestic you don't need real name IMO

 

[Nezz4488]

bros if international they might make you sign for it. so smart to put real name. for domestic you don't need real name IMO

I am ordering here domestic. And I spoke with John or Jonah I think his name is? The Napsgear rep. He got me squared away and I finally got my order put in.

 

[LevButlerov]

This sounds like a good safe route. Should I bump the test to 300? Also, I have the Anastrazole on hand right now because that doctor had me taking it every week. Should I stop the enclomiphene and Anastrazole, start the cycle, then check bloods about 4 weeks in to see where my resting levels are and decide about the Anastrazole from that point? Just wondering because my pre-trt E2 level was a fkin 6 and after being on trt dose test with the enclomiphene and taking Anastrazole every week my E2 rose up to 29. Is that considered a high aromatization rate or pretty standard?

I don't know if you should bump yet because you aren't sharing the rest of your log I would say maybe yes but need to see more updates. @Nezz4488

. I was about to place my order but it's down to domestic or Usroids. Only reason I mention US is because they have a buy 3 get 1 free sale right now and they are like $30 cheaper per vial right now.

Cheaper is not smart, I do suggest domestic-supply.com and I support Greg openly no behind the scene games and he supports the EVO family too If you want to support our family support @domestic-supply.com Greg.
I wont comment on the infections I've seem from USroids we'll leave it at that.

 

[LevButlerov]

Also, I went ahead and started to checkout on Napsgear and it said to make sure the name is who lives at the address. Do y'all put your actual name on the order with home address?

Its possible, I would go with D-S way more anon.

 

[Nezz4488]

I don't know if you should bump yet because you aren't sharing the rest of your log I would say maybe yes but need to see more updates. @Nezz4488

Cheaper is not smart, I do suggest domestic-supply.com and I support Greg openly no behind the scene games and he supports the EVO family too If you want to support our family support @domestic-supply.com Greg.
I wont comment on the infections I've seem from USroids we'll leave it at that.

Do you mean the food and macros part of the log?
And ooh, I'm glad I went with Napsgear then. I saw a lot of positive reviews on them. But next time I'll go with DS.

 

[ceo]

I am ordering here domestic. And I spoke with John or Jonah I think his name is? The Napsgear rep. He got me squared away and I finally got my order put in.

bros napsgear solid you won't go wrong

 

[LevButlerov]

Do you mean the food and macros part of the log?

Yes food macros training diet. You haven't shared anything day to day. @Nezz4488

And ooh, I'm glad I went with Napsgear then. I saw a lot of positive reviews on them. But next time I'll go with DS.

Actually we suggested you go with domestic-supply.com but napsgear is fine as well.

 

[Nezz4488]

Yes food macros training diet. You haven't shared anything day to day. @Nezz4488

Actually we suggested you go with domestic-supply.com but napsgear is fine as well.

Okk, so how does this sound for macros:

Daily target average: 3,300 kcal
Protein: 190–200 g
Fat: 75–85 g
Carbs: 400–420 g

And as far as the actual food goes, I'll have to update you on that one. Gotta get a kitchen scale and start meal prepping. My training is what I listed above.

 

[LevButlerov]

Okk, so how does this sound for macros:

Daily target average: 3,300 kcal
Protein: 190–200 g
Fat: 75–85 g
Carbs: 400–420 g

And as far as the actual food goes, I'll have to update you on that one. Gotta get a kitchen scale and start meal prepping. My training is what I listed above.

The target of calories forget, calories mean nothing

I would stay at around 250 protein for you rest keep. @texas.redneck

 

[Nunya]

How many years have you been training naturally?

 

[Nezz4488]

Just a little update:
First pack touchdown. Got the test pack. Still waiting on the eq. I dunno if y'all want pics of the pack but can post them if requested.
Also, here's some 'before cycle' photos for reference. That way can keep the log updated.

 

[Nezz4488]

I couldn't hardly get pics of my back. But I'll try to get more

 

[LevButlerov]

Just a little update:
First pack touchdown. Got the test pack. Still waiting on the eq. I dunno if y'all want pics of the pack but can post them if requested.
Also, here's some 'before cycle' photos for reference. That way can keep the log updated.

I couldn't hardly get pics of my back. But I'll try to get more

You are looking good fairly lean now @Nezz4488
when is your eq coming?

 

[Nezz4488]

You are looking good fairly lean now @Nezz4488
when is your eq coming?

Thanks Lev! I can definitely feel the fat just holding on right above my abs though. And lower back. But anywho, I dunno! I've been waiting for an update but it only says shipping label created so far. Same status for about 16 days now. Jason from Napsgear said that it will update once it gets into the country. (I didn't realize I was ordering the items from international as some of the postings do not specify that. It's actually misleading in a way). But it's fine, hopefully it will be here soon.

 

[kcates]

Thanks Lev! I can definitely feel the fat just holding on right above my abs though. And lower back. But anywho, I dunno! I've been waiting for an update but it only says shipping label created so far. Same status for about 16 days now. Jason from Napsgear said that it will update once it gets into the country. (I didn't realize I was ordering the items from international as some of the postings do not specify that. It's actually misleading in a way). But it's fine, hopefully it will be here soon.

With Napsgear all of sudden one day it will update and then be at your home with a few days after that maybe like 3-4. My internationals take 3-4 weeks delivery in. Florida and they come in usually up around New York Or Jersey.

Let's see your daily exercises logged with sets and reps. Also exactly what you eat for all your meals. Taking pictures of your food is awesome everyone loves to see food porn. Check out my logs and see how I log my daily exercise and diet. This will help out the people like Lev and others to dial you in.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks Lev! I can definitely feel the fat just holding on right above my abs though. And lower back. But anywho, I dunno! I've been waiting for an update but it only says shipping label created so far. Same status for about 16 days now. Jason from Napsgear said that it will update once it gets into the country. (I didn't realize I was ordering the items from international as some of the postings do not specify that. It's actually misleading in a way). But it's fine, hopefully it will be here soon.

Give it time it will arrive @Nezz4488 these days international shipping can be a mess due to tariffs.

Lets meanwhile start doing more training and food for you.

 

[Nezz4488]

Well sunovabitch...

Did this at work this morning(3rd shift). I still went through my push routine this morning and definitely was affected. Was so pissed off and frustrated I couldn't go all out. But, anybody else have any advice when it comes to something like this?
ALSO, hopefully it'll be good enough by the time eq gets here. Lol.

 

[Nezz4488]

Oh yea, I'll post up some of the stuff I eat this weekend. Sorry for the delay.

 

[kcates]

Well sunovabitch...

Did this at work this morning(3rd shift). I still went through my push routine this morning and definitely was affected. Was so pissed off and frustrated I couldn't go all out. But, anybody else have any advice when it comes to something like this?
ALSO, hopefully it'll be good enough by the time eq gets here. Lol.

Dang, what happened to cause that? Did your nail pop out the back at the critical?

 

[Nezz4488]

Dang, what happened to cause that? Did your nail pop out the back at the critical?

Yup. I couldn't figure out what the hell it was at first. Lol. I didn't realize your nail grew back like that. But I got it damn near crushed between a steel 90° corner and like an 80lb plate in a twisting motion.

 

[Nezz4488]

Also, here's something that I just put together when I want something sweet. Also, I sometimes get whole grain cinnamon toast crunch or something like that and sprinkle a little on top to give it a little extra flavor.
1 1/2 cups greek yogurt
1/2 cup skim milk
1tbsp zero sugar coffee creamer
About 1/2 cup whole oats
Final Macros (for the whole recipe):
445 Calories
48 g Carbs
44 g Protein
8 g Fat
(numbers added using chatgpt so I didn't have to add all that up) looks about right though.

 

[kcates]

Yup. I couldn't figure out what the hell it was at first. Lol. I didn't realize your nail grew back like that. But I got it damn near crushed between a steel 90° corner and like an 80lb plate in a twisting motion.

Oh man that don't sound good. Hope you have a quick recovery. Get well soon.

 

[LevButlerov]

Well sunovabitch...

Did this at work this morning(3rd shift). I still went through my push routine this morning and definitely was affected. Was so pissed off and frustrated I couldn't go all out. But, anybody else have any advice when it comes to something like this?
ALSO, hopefully it'll be good enough by the time eq gets here. Lol.

Yup. I couldn't figure out what the hell it was at first. Lol. I didn't realize your nail grew back like that. But I got it damn near crushed between a steel 90° corner and like an 80lb plate in a twisting motion.

can you move the hand fine? @Nezz4488

Also, here's something that I just put together when I want something sweet. Also, I sometimes get whole grain cinnamon toast crunch or something like that and sprinkle a little on top to give it a little extra flavor.
1 1/2 cups greek yogurt
1/2 cup skim milk
1tbsp zero sugar coffee creamer
About 1/2 cup whole oats
Final Macros (for the whole recipe):
445 Calories
48 g Carbs
44 g Protein
8 g Fat
(numbers added using chatgpt so I didn't have to add all that up) looks about right though.

I like the macros and the food but worried about your hand, you ok? @Nezz4488

 

[Nezz4488]

can you move the hand fine? @Nezz4488

I like the macros and the food but worried about your hand, you ok? @Nezz4488

I can kind of move it. The pull routine in the morning is definitely going to be more challenging than the push routine though. I can't bend my ring and pinky finger. I'll manage but it pisses me off so bad since it affects my workout.

Oh! Also, I managed to get my last shipment of test from my trt clinic, before I canceled, so now I'm stocked up with extra test just in case?

 

[LevButlerov]

I can kind of move it. The pull routine in the morning is definitely going to be more challenging than the push routine though. I can't bend my ring and pinky finger. I'll manage but it pisses me off so bad since it affects my workout.

That’s frustrating, grip is everything on pull days and those two fingers make a big difference. You can still get work in by leaning on straps for rows and pulldowns so the hand doesn’t limit you. Keep pushing what you can without forcing it, the strength will hold while the finger heals up.

Oh! Also, I managed to get my last shipment of test from my trt clinic, before I canceled, so now I'm stocked up with extra test just in case?

Perfect, touchdown pics? @Nezz4488

 

[Nezz4488]

That’s frustrating, grip is everything on pull days and those two fingers make a big difference. You can still get work in by leaning on straps for rows and pulldowns so the hand doesn’t limit you. Keep pushing what you can without forcing it, the strength will hold while the finger heals up.

Perfect, touchdown pics? @Nezz4488

I was actually looking into getting a pair of wrist straps this morning. I just didn't feel like going by Walmart so I'm about to order some off Amazon right now.
I the pics: on the left is the Napsgear and the right is from my old clinic. The Napsgear came wrapped in like 6 bubble wrap bags for safe shipping.
They're both 200mg/ml test cyp but napsgear is 10ml and the others are 5ml. Also, the different coloring is from different carrier oils I'm assuming?

 

[Nezz4488]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

 

[LevButlerov]

I was actually looking into getting a pair of wrist straps this morning. I just didn't feel like going by Walmart so I'm about to order some off Amazon right now.
I the pics: on the left is the Napsgear and the right is from my old clinic. The Napsgear came wrapped in like 6 bubble wrap bags for safe shipping.
They're both 200mg/ml test cyp but napsgear is 10ml and the others are 5ml. Also, the different coloring is from different carrier oils I'm assuming?

Get some straps and let us know.

The gear looks clean Napsgear delivered well
and yes carrier oils change from different lab batches, it's normal. @Nezz4488

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

 

[stevesmi]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

nice touchdowns man. we talk about this gear on the podcast

 

[Mobster]

Can't see the pics. Better inserted and not attached

 

[jasonhill800]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

Awesome TD brother. Thanks for posting.

Share it here as well and earn some store credit - https://www.napsgear.org/gearpics.php

 

[BodyMonster34]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

bro the gear looks strong. @Nezz4488 you won't go wrong. i want to see you pump it hard

 

[2Thick]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

That's some good touchdown stuff right there. Love to see it.

 

[Ulter]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

@Nezz4488 Very nice touchdown pictures. The gear looks fantastic.

 

[ballin2504]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

@Nezz4488 can’t be a good touchdown picture the products will treat you very well. Congratulations.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

nice stuff. pharmaqo is a top quality brand @Nezz4488 keep us updated

 

[ceo]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

Bro, is good to see that you post them pictures of your touchdown. Look and really nice.

 

[Nezz4488]

Can't see the pics. Better inserted and not attached

I tried to insert the pics but for some reason it keeps saying there was an error. Won't let me insert.

Awesome TD brother. Thanks for posting.

Share it here as well and earn some store credit - https://www.napsgear.org/gearpics.php

Thanks Jason. I'll post up some pics and write a good review over there on Napsgear today.

I can't wait to get the EQ so I can get this cycle started. Hopefully sooner than later.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

I use pharmaqo personally and its really good quality smooth injections

 

[LevButlerov]

I tried to insert the pics but for some reason it keeps saying there was an error. Won't let me insert.

how big is the picture?

 

[Nezz4488]

how big is the picture?

It's 50mp. I guess I need to adjust my camera settings and take another smaller Pic.
ALSO! I just got an update on my EQ! Hopefully should be here in the next couple days!

When it does get here should I just stick to my normal schedule and pin on Tuesday/Friday? Also, run the test at 300 and eq at 100 or...?

 

[LevButlerov]

It's 50mp. I guess I need to adjust my camera settings and take another smaller Pic.
ALSO! I just got an update on my EQ! Hopefully should be here in the next couple days!

When it does get here should I just stick to my normal schedule and pin on Tuesday/Friday? Also, run the test at 300 and eq at 100 or...?

Try to edit so it's not 4k quality
Good news on the EQ landing soon. Stick with your regular Tues/Fri schedule so your levels stay steady, no need to change that. If you’re set on running it alongside test, keep your test at 300 and bring the EQ in at 300 as well, that’s a nice balanced starting point. Running EQ at only 100 won’t really show much effect, so better to keep them even and see how you respond.

 

[25homes]

Sorry, I thought I uploaded the pics but I guess I didn't attach them.

This is great to see

 

[Nezz4488]

Try to edit so it's not 4k quality
Good news on the EQ landing soon. Stick with your regular Tues/Fri schedule so your levels stay steady, no need to change that. If you’re set on running it alongside test, keep your test at 300 and bring the EQ in at 300 as well, that’s a nice balanced starting point. Running EQ at only 100 won’t really show much effect, so better to keep them even and see how you respond.

Okk, sounds good! I'll get some new pics up in the morning or when my EQ lands. Also, I do have joint and tendon pain sometimes and I dunno if it's from me pushing myself or what but I've been looking into BPC-157 and TB-500. What do y'all think of these for recovery and joint/tendon support? From everything I've read everybody seems to really have positive feedback on it.

 

[LevButlerov]

Okk, sounds good! I'll get some new pics up in the morning or when my EQ lands. Also, I do have joint and tendon pain sometimes and I dunno if it's from me pushing myself or what but I've been looking into BPC-157 and TB-500. What do y'all think of these for recovery and joint/tendon support? From everything I've read everybody seems to really have positive feedback on it.

BPC-157 and TB-500 are both solid options when joints and tendons are nagging. BPC is great localized healing if you pin close to the site, guys notice less pain and quicker recovery there. TB tends to work more systemically, helps with overall soft tissue repair and inflammation. A lot of people run them together for that reason, and feedback is usually very positive if you’re consistent with dosing.

 

[Nezz4488]

BPC-157 and TB-500 are both solid options when joints and tendons are nagging. BPC is great localized healing if you pin close to the site, guys notice less pain and quicker recovery there. TB tends to work more systemically, helps with overall soft tissue repair and inflammation. A lot of people run them together for that reason, and feedback is usually very positive if you’re consistent with dosing.

OK, sounds good. I'll have to get me some then.
I was just thinking about it and I'm guessing when I go to pin the eq and test that will be 2 seperate shots? Because I have the 1ml syringes with a 18g for pulling up and 25g for pinning (had the 27g and liked those better). I've been going into my glutes this whole time because it seems the most tolerable/comfortable. Since I'll have to be pinning 2 seperate shots should I just stick one in each cheek? Lol

 

[LevButlerov]

OK, sounds good. I'll have to get me some then.
I was just thinking about it and I'm guessing when I go to pin the eq and test that will be 2 seperate shots? Because I have the 1ml syringes with a 18g for pulling up and 25g for pinning (had the 27g and liked those better). I've been going into my glutes this whole time because it seems the most tolerable/comfortable. Since I'll have to be pinning 2 seperate shots should I just stick one in each cheek? Lol

You can pull both into the same syringe if the oils are compatible, no need for 2 separate pins unless you want to. Just swap the draw pin for your 25 and you’re good. Glutes are fine, they hold a lot of volume, just rotate sides each pin so you’re not hammering the same spot every time. If you liked the 27s and the oil isn’t too thick you can run those again, it’ll just take a bit longer to push.

 

[Nezz4488]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

 

[LevButlerov]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

Love this Geneza pharma touchdown pic @Nezz4488 from napsgear is HOT!
what's your cycle plan now?

 

[Nezz4488]

Love this Geneza pharma touchdown pic @Nezz4488 from napsgear is HOT!
what's your cycle plan now?

Well, tomorrow would be my pin day so I'll start tomorrow. I'll drop the enclomiphene and Anastrazole and just run the EQ and test. I will eventually incorporate the BPC-157 & TB-500 into the mix but that will be this coming week or the next. Get labs done after 4 weeks in.
I'll get some more diet/food items posted up this weekend also.
Is something like N2guard required or strongly recommended for a cycle like this?

 

[LevButlerov]

Well, tomorrow would be my pin day so I'll start tomorrow. I'll drop the enclomiphene and Anastrazole and just run the EQ and test. I will eventually incorporate the BPC-157 & TB-500 into the mix but that will be this coming week or the next. Get labs done after 4 weeks in.
I'll get some more diet/food items posted up this weekend also.

Good call simplifying it, EQ and test will give you a clear read without extra stuff clouding how you feel. Adding BPC-157 and TB-500 after you’ve settled in makes sense, that way you’ll notice what’s doing what. Labs at 4 weeks is perfect. Definitely post the diet too, seeing the food with the gear and training gives the full picture of how it’s working.

Is something like N2guard required or strongly recommended for a cycle like this?

I would suggest you get n2guard, it's 1 bottle for 2 months worth the investment into your health @Nezz4488

 

[Mobster]

It's 50mp. I guess I need to adjust my camera settings and take another smaller Pic.
ALSO! I just got an update on my EQ! Hopefully should be here in the next couple days!

When it does get here should I just stick to my normal schedule and pin on Tuesday/Friday? Also, run the test at 300 and eq at 100 or...?

Yeah 16mp is better. Or take a bigger pic and then crop down

 

[stevesmi]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

yeah there were delays over the holiday for a lot of brands/sources. people on vacation etc. good touchdowns @Nezz4488

 

[BodyMonster34]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

@Nezz4488 bro EQ is a good one. nice touchdown. look good if you ask me next to some tren

 

[2Thick]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

i am pretty sure a lot of brands include freebies like that @Nezz4488 it is nice to have in case. cialis has a lot of benefits

 

[jasonhill800]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

Hi brother, Nice td. @Nezz4488

As a token of appreciation you'll get $200 credit from Napsgear.

Just place your order from website and send me the order number in pm, I'll apply the credit.

 

[ceo]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

bros EQ exciting to see. One of the most underrated steroids out there. A lot of people should use it. @Nezz4488

 

[ROIDDERS]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

the touchdown looks juicey! i love what you are doing here @Nezz4488 keep up the grind.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi brother, Nice td. @Nezz4488

As a token of appreciation you'll get $200 credit from Napsgear.

Just place your order from website and send me the order number in pm, I'll apply the credit.

@jasonhill800 love the Napsgear support for @Nezz4488

 

[Nezz4488]

Hi brother, Nice td. @Nezz4488

As a token of appreciation you'll get $200 credit from Napsgear.

Just place your order from website and send me the order number in pm, I'll apply the credit.

That's Jason! There's a couple more things I needed anyways so this will definitely help! Awesome support!

the touchdown looks juicey! i love what you are doing here @Nezz4488 keep up the grind.

Oh I am. Grinding everyday. About to go do leg day now. Lol

Also, I've seen a lot of people run their test higher than eq since the eq tends to crash estradiol. Any thoughts on this? I already did my first pin yesterday but figured I'd see what everybody's opinion is on this.

 

[ballin2504]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

@Nezz4488 now that’s a touchdown!!!! A lot of great looking products there brother.

 

[LevButlerov]

That's Jason! There's a couple more things I needed anyways so this will definitely help! Awesome support!

EVO family got your back on this one dial this cycle up and we'll support you @Nezz4488

 

[ROIDDERS]

That's Jason! There's a couple more things I needed anyways so this will definitely help! Awesome support!

Oh I am. Grinding everyday. About to go do leg day now. Lol

Also, I've seen a lot of people run their test higher than eq since the eq tends to crash estradiol. Any thoughts on this? I already did my first pin yesterday but figured I'd see what everybody's opinion is on this.

i think its overrated that it will crash estrogen

 

[Noah Wixx]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

Nice td

 

[25homes]

Touchdown! Finally got my EQ! Looks nice; exactly like on the site. I guess they threw in a pack of cialis for free for the delay?
Also, I'm still having trouble inserting images so I'll just attach them. Let me know if they look OK.

You got a great stash

 

[Nezz4488]

Okay I've heard all the More Plates More Dates videos on how gear makes your libido wild but, wtf?
I think the gear finally hit the libido because mine is definitely in over drive. I never realized how powerful hormones really are and the way they mentally drive you crazy. Lol.
Is it like this starting every cycle? Cuz I feel like I could fuck a football right now. Happen like this to anybody else?

I know it's random but I figure I'd keep the log updated with everything that's happening as it happens.

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay I've heard all the More Plates More Dates videos on how gear makes your libido wild but, wtf?
I think the gear finally hit the libido because mine is definitely in over drive. I never realized how powerful hormones really are and the way they mentally drive you crazy. Lol.
Is it like this starting every cycle? Cuz I feel like I could fuck a football right now. Happen like this to anybody else?

I know it's random but I figure I'd keep the log updated with everything that's happening as it happens.

That’s normal early in a cycle once serum test levels rise and your body adjusts to the androgen surge. It usually peaks around week 3–5, then evens out once e2 stabilizes and your system balances aromatization. @Nezz4488

If it gets excessive or mood swings start, get mid-cycle labs to check test and e2 so you know where you’re sitting. Keep your sleep and food consistent since both impact how your hormones settle across the next few weeks.

 

[Nezz4488]

That’s normal early in a cycle once serum test levels rise and your body adjusts to the androgen surge. It usually peaks around week 3–5, then evens out once e2 stabilizes and your system balances aromatization. @Nezz4488

If it gets excessive or mood swings start, get mid-cycle labs to check test and e2 so you know where you’re sitting. Keep your sleep and food consistent since both impact how your hormones settle across the next few weeks.

Okay, sounds good. Do you have any recommendations on labs? Or should I just go to my local LabCorp? I've seen the kewl tests online that you just stick in your shoulder and it draws blood for you but I dunno.

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay, sounds good. Do you have any recommendations on labs? Or should I just go to my local LabCorp? I've seen the kewl tests online that you just stick in your shoulder and it draws blood for you but I dunno.

You are in USA? @Nezz4488