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[LevButlerov]

You're totally right man. It all sounds simple and obvious in theory but it's wasn't obvious to me.

I feel like I've beem searching/seeking in one way or another my whole like for something.

I'm happy you found this way of life bro, and what you guys are doing here is life changing for real. I want to join you and follow a similar path

You're already in the EVO family you are here joined us, you can support all EVO brothers and sisters while you're here. This is the path that's going to make you feel the best my iron brother. @vanlife_gymbum

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Agreed. You can get high on methadone if you time it properly or take enough of it. It was the pain drug of choice during the second world war. It's a Mu receptor agonist in the brain which is the pain receptor and it works just like any other opioid and fits the receptor tight and has a long half life but it does activate the same pathways as oxycontin, dilaudid, morphine etc.

Yup, that's spot on. There's nothing different about methadone, it's not like one of the new franken-halfbreed things, it's a full-against opiod not unsimilar to the rest

What makes it different IMHO is lack of availability, being the slowest of the slow acting opiods it's not a very good recreational drug and also fucks up other recreational drugs for by blowing out your tolerance quickly.

I was in the ER and tied to the bed in four-point restraints (for my safety hehe) in a coma from a .1 shot of uncut South East Asian #4 and that was suppost to be a test shot.

Right now I could inject that entire gram and it wouldn't even get me out of methadone withdrawal.

What this means practically is you can't get high off herion anymore because you can't afford that much or your opiate tolerance is just too high.

I was a bit naughty and told my dad it's like antabuse for opiates which was is not the truth really but was convenient to say, it's not atcually blocking anything like the other shit does.

Basically the euphoria was almost completely removed somehow, so it never got big as a street drug because it's boring. So I can't buy it on the streets which is good. This is another reason why the methadone clinic system in the USA is the worst possible way you could do it. It must be on purpose.

You make every drug addict in the surrounding area line up for at least half an hour at 5am every day, they can sell their doses to each other, sell benzos to each other, etc etc.

Nothing like that happens here. I've only met one other guy on it ever at the pharmacy, the guy I bought benzos off then side swiped three BMWs or similar.

Nodding off on methadone is more like just being asleep than in a dream state in a Chinese opium den. So there's no black market and hard to get more (for me anyway)

The method of administration is a big part imo. The oral administration is important but I mean the pharmacist supervising my use, being handed it every day by someone sober and in a lab coat is powerful in and of itself. I can't get high and I'm never in withdrawal, I can't get more, I can't miss a day. I'm not really in charge of it, it doesn't cause the same cravings and mental obsession that other opiates do for me.

I wanted to reduce to 80mg coz a lot of people report side effects reducing around there, and the heart risk factors and shit drop a lot around 80mg compared to 120mg. I atcually only need one yearly ECG now I'm under 100mg.

90mg before but I'll write a new log about my methadone usage that's detailed and I'll lay it all out for feedback.

I believe I'm stable now and as long as I stay daily dosing at the pharmacy that will tick away in the background while I concentrate on my testosterone therapy and the 12 steps.

Suboxone on the other hand will get you high only the first or second time you try and abuse it and then it does it's job which is to fit so tight in the receptor that it blocks any other opoid from filling the Mu receptor. It stays in the receptor so you never get a buzz from it. The best thing I ever did was move from suboxone (buprenorphine) to sublicade (a monthly injection which dissipates slowly). Coming off sublicade there is zero withdrawal and trying to get high with anything else on any buprenorphine product is a complete waste of time. It's like having a constant flood of naloxone in your blood, it's just not gonna happen and you don't get cravings on suboxone either whereas every day you will crave your next methadone hit. There's a delta and kappa receptor too but using drugs that bind to those are NOT a good buzz.

Not suggesting you switch off methadone @vanlife_gymbum but just food for thought as it's what got @BeMe and myself off of everything entirely. Coming off methadone is nasty I've witnessed people having a hard time getting down to 10mg and trying to jump off from there and they get the same feelings as withdrawal where even the wind blowing your hair hurts LOL

Haha man I don't miss withdrawal... those days after I doubled up were insanely bad. I never let myself get into withdrawal like that back when I was trying to keep a job.

I'll write up a proper log entry about my history with it and current status and thoughts for you and @BeMe about it to look at

That last run on opiates was by far the worst one. Chasing the dragon on the regular at a school, at work in customers bathrooms, and at home, and no one had a clue.

It's so stressful having to fix during the day. I try not to be one of those guys who has to one-up the next guy to prove he's worse constantly but ten years straight of fixing at lunchtime I ran into problems a couple of times haha.

Most notably I'm officially banned from the Blacktown Police Training facility in Sydney.

When I worked as a digital forensic analyst for BAE Systems I got this job where the cops trainer quit at short notice and they needed a replacement to run his course, I just needed to present his material it wasn't difficult in that sense but possessing, prepping and using at a police satation for five days kinda sucked ass.

On the last night I had a few too many drinks and ah, I'm not sure what happened, but BAE lost that contract and I almost got fired, but they couldn't find a replacement for me so they just sucked it up in the end. Still got the officially-served letter somewhere, and a few photos from that night.

The way I got clean was going cold turkey and putting myself into a K hole for 3 weeks. Then I was addicted to ketamine for a while until it started destroying my bladder. Getting off ketamine cold turkey wasn't hard tho. At that point my life was a disaster and I realized it was time to turn things around and start putting the pieces back together.

Damn dude, that's hard-core!! Glad you got away from the K bro, a colostomy bag would have caused some imbalances in your physique

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

You're already in the EVO family you are here joined us, you can support all EVO brothers and sisters while you're here. This is the path that's going to make you feel the best my iron brother. @vanlife_gymbum

I believe so too brother! It's hard to believe it's only Day 7 now... I'll try my best to give back and help others

 

[LevButlerov]

I believe so too brother! It's hard to believe it's only Day 7 now... I'll try my best to give back and help others

Day 7! imagine day 700

 

[BeMe]

Yup, that's spot on. There's nothing different about methadone, it's not like one of the new franken-halfbreed things, it's a full-against opiod not unsimilar to the rest

What makes it different IMHO is lack of availability, being the slowest of the slow acting opiods it's not a very good recreational drug and also fucks up other recreational drugs for by blowing out your tolerance quickly.

I was in the ER and tied to the bed in four-point restraints (for my safety hehe) in a coma from a .1 shot of uncut South East Asian #4 and that was suppost to be a test shot.

Right now I could inject that entire gram and it wouldn't even get me out of methadone withdrawal.

What this means practically is you can't get high off herion anymore because you can't afford that much or your opiate tolerance is just too high.

I was a bit naughty and told my dad it's like antabuse for opiates which was is not the truth really but was convenient to say, it's not atcually blocking anything like the other shit does.

Basically the euphoria was almost completely removed somehow, so it never got big as a street drug because it's boring. So I can't buy it on the streets which is good. This is another reason why the methadone clinic system in the USA is the worst possible way you could do it. It must be on purpose.

You make every drug addict in the surrounding area line up for at least half an hour at 5am every day, they can sell their doses to each other, sell benzos to each other, etc etc.

Nothing like that happens here. I've only met one other guy on it ever at the pharmacy, the guy I bought benzos off then side swiped three BMWs or similar.

Nodding off on methadone is more like just being asleep than in a dream state in a Chinese opium den. So there's no black market and hard to get more (for me anyway)

The method of administration is a big part imo. The oral administration is important but I mean the pharmacist supervising my use, being handed it every day by someone sober and in a lab coat is powerful in and of itself. I can't get high and I'm never in withdrawal, I can't get more, I can't miss a day. I'm not really in charge of it, it doesn't cause the same cravings and mental obsession that other opiates do for me.

I wanted to reduce to 80mg coz a lot of people report side effects reducing around there, and the heart risk factors and shit drop a lot around 80mg compared to 120mg. I atcually only need one yearly ECG now I'm under 100mg.

90mg before but I'll write a new log about my methadone usage that's detailed and I'll lay it all out for feedback.

I believe I'm stable now and as long as I stay daily dosing at the pharmacy that will tick away in the background while I concentrate on my testosterone therapy and the 12 steps.



Haha man I don't miss withdrawal... those days after I doubled up were insanely bad. I never let myself get into withdrawal like that back when I was trying to keep a job.

I'll write up a proper log entry about my history with it and current status and thoughts for you and @BeMe about it to look at



It's so stressful having to fix during the day. I try not to be one of those guys who has to one-up the next guy to prove he's worse constantly but ten years straight of fixing at lunchtime I ran into problems a couple of times haha.

Most notably I'm officially banned from the Blacktown Police Training facility in Sydney.

When I worked as a digital forensic analyst for BAE Systems I got this job where the cops trainer quit at short notice and they needed a replacement to run his course, I just needed to present his material it wasn't difficult in that sense but possessing, prepping and using at a police satation for five days kinda sucked ass.

On the last night I had a few too many drinks and ah, I'm not sure what happened, but BAE lost that contract and I almost got fired, but they couldn't find a replacement for me so they just sucked it up in the end. Still got the officially-served letter somewhere, and a few photos from that night.



Damn dude, that's hard-core!! Glad you got away from the K bro, a colostomy bag would have caused some imbalances in your physique

Ya pissing out chunks of your bladder is a good wake up call.

If you can reduce your methadone then do it. Deal with the mini flu symptoms. Take it in steps. Methadone is just another bad thing to be addicted too. Just government issue. The sooner you can get off the better. Maybe as you get your test dialed in you'll start feeling better and it will make coming off easier.

The injection that @HarleyGuy mentioned sounds really good.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

The injection that @HarleyGuy mentioned sounds really good.

Yeah I do talk to a lot of people online who swear by it.

Government doesn't offer the shot here but they try and make everyone take suboxone over methadone, but I have already had percipritated withdrawal and wouldn't even think about changing this, I'd shoot myself in the head if that happened again, I'm in a different headspace now and it's just not possible. PWD is indescrible.

There's this thing called the bernese method where you taper to 30mg of methadone and then microdose suboxone and titrate up the dose from there but thar sounds like insanity to me and I don't trust these fucks.

A dodgy inogaine clinic in Mexico wouldn't even take me at 30mg and these clowns talk about taking subs while on long acting full agonist opiods like it's just standard procedure. Doctors are way over rated in their skillset, knowledge, experience. I've even met some that were basically salesmen.

They lied to me about some major things, they're not on my side. They're like corporate HR, pretend to be helping you but atcually are only there to protect the company from you, and are atcually doing the opposite of helping.

They don't get my respect by default any more and I dont trust them. It's unacceptable to lie about peoples health, or at all, unless you're trying to pick up girls.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.

Wow man!! That's awesome, just regular ones on the floor like the dude in American Psyco does in his morning routine? He could only do 300.

I encountered a Nautilus Ab Cruncher for the first time last night at the new gym which just opened in my neighbourhood.

I did 3 x 20 last night, and 3 x 50 today. How many of these should I aim for and how many times a week? What are the recovery times for an exercise like this?

Fantastic log man, I think your format and doing whole day summaries instead of individual posts is better.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Wow man!! That's awesome, just regular ones on the floor like the dude in American Psyco does in his morning routine? He could only do 300.

I encountered a Nautilus Ab Cruncher for the first time last night at the new gym which just opened in my neighbourhood.

I did 3 x 20 last night, and 3 x 50 today. How many of these should I aim for and how many times a week? What are the recovery times for an exercise like this?

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Fantastic log man, I think your format and doing whole day summaries instead of individual posts is better.

I usually do 50 at a time and take a small break.... working my way to 1000. Sometimes I'm gassed and my last set is like 12 because I'm at 988 and I only have 12 left in me. However long it takes I don't stop til 1000.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Does anyone know the best place to get the chinese generic blue tops/grey tops/black tops, etc HGH? Napsgear has had them "coming soon" forever now and I only wanna check what's approved off EVO. My wallet is taking a hit at $350/100iu for the others. @BeMe @LevButlerov

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

I usually do 50 at a time and take a small break.... working my way to 1000. Sometimes I'm gassed and my last set is like 12 because I'm at 988 and I only have 12 left in me. However long it takes I don't stop til 1000.

Holy shit that's badass bro!

I'm keen to work on it.

About to smash out some more 50 sets.

Working on the assisted pull-ups too.

 

[BeMe]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

I don't remember you having thick blood.

Why do you want to add low dose aspirin?

 

[BeMe]

Wow man!! That's awesome, just regular ones on the floor like the dude in American Psyco does in his morning routine? He could only do 300.

I encountered a Nautilus Ab Cruncher for the first time last night at the new gym which just opened in my neighbourhood.

I did 3 x 20 last night, and 3 x 50 today. How many of these should I aim for and how many times a week? What are the recovery times for an exercise like this?

View attachment 115798

Fantastic log man, I think your format and doing whole day summaries instead of individual posts is better.

Play around with the rep ranges until you figure out what gives you the best stimulus. For weighted ab movements I like 12-20 reps but you might be different.

From there it's just progressive overload like any other muscle

 

[BeMe]

Does anyone know the best place to get the chinese generic blue tops/grey tops/black tops, etc HGH? Napsgear has had them "coming soon" forever now and I only wanna check what's approved off EVO. My wallet is taking a hit at $350/100iu for the others. @BeMe @LevButlerov

I haven't seen anything cheaper than $350 in a while.

Nordic fusion used to have kits that were $250 and $275 but they weren't on the recent list

 

[HarleyGuy]

I don't remember you having thick blood.

Why do you want to add low dose aspirin?

It was when we were discussing raloxifene and my concern about it causing blood clots but I'm taking tamox/nolva as of yesterday so I'm not sure if this still applies. Amazon never delivered them so I got a refund and now may not need them anyway. Just checking if it's a good idea.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

What's the deal with Collagen bro? My parents are taking it all of a sudden and I heard two boomers at a meeting gushing over it the other day.

It's a massively pushed item at the pharmacy now, I gotta look at racks of the shit waiting to get my dose.

I thought it was just for woman without the means to try the Lee Priest skin-care routine.

This shake looks sweet bro! I've decided to try get to 250g protein via steak, eggs & milk but if I fail that I'll crack and buy some whey.

I don't like where it comes from, who produces it or its history but slamming 75g of protein just like that is somewhat attractive.

If I have enough for a second tray of eggs at the farmers market this Sunday im gonna try the 12-egg and half/half (cream/milk) Vince Gironda shake.

Just one a day not three like he recommends running in a eight week cycle "like a course of DBOL". Heard good things about it. They know what they're talking about down at the burns ward.

 

[BeMe]

What's the deal with Collagen bro? My parents are taking it all of a sudden and I heard two boomers at a meeting gushing over it the other day.

I add a collagen peptide powder to my shakes. It's great for so many things. You're joints, ligaments, tendons, gut, skin, hair, on and on. If it provides even a fraction of the support it's capable of its worth it.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

I add a collagen peptide powder to my shakes. It's great for so many things. You're joints, ligaments, tendons, gut, skin, hair, on and on. If it provides even a fraction of the support it's capable of its worth it.

Okay that sounds good! I greatly value my man-bun and clear skin, and am worried about fucking them up.

I'll have a look for cheaper sources, seemed really pricey at the pharmacy =/

 

[LevButlerov]

What's the deal with Collagen bro? My parents are taking it all of a sudden and I heard two boomers at a meeting gushing over it the other day.

It's a massively pushed item at the pharmacy now, I gotta look at racks of the shit waiting to get my dose.

I thought it was just for woman without the means to try the Lee Priest skin-care routine.

This shake looks sweet bro! I've decided to try get to 250g protein via steak, eggs & milk but if I fail that I'll crack and buy some whey.

I don't like where it comes from, who produces it or its history but slamming 75g of protein just like that is somewhat attractive.

If I have enough for a second tray of eggs at the farmers market this Sunday im gonna try the 12-egg and half/half (cream/milk) Vince Gironda shake.

Just one a day not three like he recommends running in a eight week cycle "like a course of DBOL". Heard good things about it. They know what they're talking about down at the burns ward.

You don't need collagen in high doses if you're high protein, it's going to depend on your diet but collagen and bone broth help a lot. You have a tight budget, stick to the foods that work for you. @vanlife_gymbum

 

[LevButlerov]

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs

True protein king, this is unreal 784 grams of protein, you're the king @HarleyGuy

**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

Good start to your anti gyno protocol! yes I suggest clients do baby aspirin eod, and I take it myself ed as well. You'll see a huge anti inflammatory positive.

 

[BeMe]

Okay that sounds good! I greatly value my man-bun and clear skin, and am worried about fucking them up.

I'll have a look for cheaper sources, seemed really pricey at the pharmacy =/

Amazon has a ton of options

 

[stevesmi]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

@Harley this is a fantastic job man. you are doing a wonderful job hitting the weekly cycle. the test, deca and tren is a dream stack with the masteron.

 

[HarleyGuy]

What's the deal with Collagen bro? My parents are taking it all of a sudden and I heard two boomers at a meeting gushing over it the other day.

It's a massively pushed item at the pharmacy now, I gotta look at racks of the shit waiting to get my dose.

I thought it was just for woman without the means to try the Lee Priest skin-care routine.

This shake looks sweet bro! I've decided to try get to 250g protein via steak, eggs & milk but if I fail that I'll crack and buy some whey.

I don't like where it comes from, who produces it or its history but slamming 75g of protein just like that is somewhat attractive.

If I have enough for a second tray of eggs at the farmers market this Sunday im gonna try the 12-egg and half/half (cream/milk) Vince Gironda shake.

Just one a day not three like he recommends running in a eight week cycle "like a course of DBOL". Heard good things about it. They know what they're talking about down at the burns ward.

I tore the tendons in both my elbows armwrestling my 24 year old and 22 year old over and over because they wanted to beat me on Fathers Day. It took 6 weeks for me to get back to the gym and I was on cycle and still am and stayed on cycle for those 6 weeks too. I mega-dosed the collagen peptides (bag says take 5g/day so I take 20g/day - that's just my personality) as collagen is that primary structural protein that makes up your tendons, it's like scaffolding for new tissue repair. I upped my creatine to 20g/day and I'm staying there to use as a nootropic as well. I also pinned a boatload of healing peptides TB-500, BPC-157 and GHK copper directly into the injured area (it goes systemic but apparently the copper can work locally) and only stopped the healing peptides yesterday. I was back in the gym within 6 weeks lifting what I did when I was 14 years old and when you see today's log update you'll see I Wolverine'd myself back into shape in just shy of 12 weeks. Both my docs said it would be a 6-month layoff.

Today I was crushing the same weights I did before my injury only difference was less reps but I'm 90% back baby! Gotta love being a bodybuilder science nerd! I had to explain to my step-sons doc was beta cells were and that we didn't wanna fry his beta cells in his pancreas at a young age trying to get his A1C under control with such standard methods. Docs know nothing about peptides. Retatrutide even on an 11 year old could totally help reduce his odds of type 2 diabetes and it can also reverse fatty liver disease if it's caught early.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today 04Sep2025

Note: I'm so glad I take pics of my meals for EVO because I'd always forget what the hell I ate! LOL

Protein: 783 grams today!


Training today (I do a 'heavy duty' Mike Mentzer/Dorian Yates style of training - trash the muscle and get in and out):

Chest:
Bench press (under a rack - the kind that has the cheater hooks every 6 inches to 'give up' without a spotter
warmup with 25's x 2 sets (bloodflow, form check, injury check).
1 set with 45's x 15 (135lbs)
2 sets with 45's and a 25 x 12 reps (185lbs)
1 set with 2x45's for 8 reps (225lbs)
1 set with 2x45's for 4 reps (225lbs)
strip set immediately after with 45's (135lbs) to complete failure (the kind where you barely get the bar on the hook and have to shove your face under the bar to get out)

Back:
Seated row with Double D triangle grip **back to pulling the whole rack again, when I started after injury I had the pin at 35!**
warmup with pin at 85 x 2 sets x 10, deep stretch and pull into my lower core
1 set with pin at 135 x 15
2 sets with pin at 185 x 15
1 set with pin at 225 x 8 forced rep
1 strip set to pin at 135 to failure

Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 20
2 sets with 100's x 15
2 sets with 120's x 12
go immediately to:
1 set with 100's x 10
1 set with 80's to failure until I was forcing partials (with straps)

Calves (I want to end all workouts with this now)
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
If I don't walk away walking like I'm drunk I go back and do more

Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
5 sets to failure



Diet: 2MAD TODAY
(Meal1: Shake with Steak&Eggs w/ provolone cheese & Meal2: 2 steaks with half pound lean ground beef and banana protein drink)


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 0.55kg stirploin + 4 whole eggs with 4 slices provolone cheese):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

0.53kg stirploin steak:
1500 cals
160 P
95 F
0 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

4 slices provolone cheese
460 cals
44 P
44 F
1 C

Meal #1 Total:
3158 cals
388 P
181 F
22 C


Meal # 2 (1kg striploin steak and 0.5lb lean ground hamburger with a banana protein premix drink:

1kg striploin steak (in two steaks)
3000 cals
320 P
191 F
0 C

0.5lb lean ground hamburger
300 cals
45 P
12 F
0 C

1 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
160 cals
30 P
2.5 F
5 C

Meal #2 Total:
3460 cals
395 P
205 F
5 C

Total today 04Sep2025:
6618 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
Finished healing peptides (as seen in above lifts): GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
**NEW** Started evening of 01Sep2025:

-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- I can do a vacuum and when I flex my abs they look good and 'blocky'. Despite this I have what's called "ab muscle laxity" where I can look ripped with abs one second and then push out a big pot belly if I want to and look pregnant too. Apparently it's genetic but has a lot to do with visceral fat. My question is: I'd be all over retatrutide as it helps nuke visceral fat but it seems like it would be upwards of the price of HGH if I got up to a 5mg dose of it. Is there a retatrutide results or before/after retatrutide thread on here anywhere? I eat so much protein and meats I'm not hungry so I'm not looking for the food noise intervention but moreso the visceral fat incineration. Any feedback? @BeMe @LevButlerov

 

[Mobster]

While it's a fun thing to do there's no actual need to hit 700+g protein

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

I tore the tendons in both my elbows armwrestling my 24 year old and 22 year old over and over because they wanted to beat me on Fathers Day.

Hahaha what the fuck bro.. that's wild

You're the second guy I know who's fucked himself up arm wrestling.

My old boss got into a gambling related arm-wrestling match at a bar in Singapore and did not emerge the victor.

The scan of the X-ray of his lower arm broken clearly in two he sent me replaced the giant rat on my nightmares.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

While it's a fun thing to do there's no actual need to hit 700+g protein

I haven't ever even heard of that before. I thought Dorian Yates was extreme mentioning 400g. I recon I can do 250 or 300g as I adapt to mostly eating meat more.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I haven't ever even heard of that before. I thought Dorian Yates was extreme mentioning 400g. I recon I can do 250 or 300g as I adapt to mostly eating meat more.

No @Mobster is correct. My 700+ protein per day is overkill. It's been a byproduct of my almost completely carnivore diet and red meat. I'm basically doing 3+g per pound of bodyweight when 2g per pound is lots. I've been avoiding carbs but am going to incorporate brown rice more (like this morning for example) and steel cut organic rolled oats so more of my calories come from healthy slow carbs.

I'm surprised my uric acid hasn't given me gout yet with this diet! LOL.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Good start to your anti gyno protocol! yes I suggest clients do baby aspirin eod, and I take it myself ed as well. You'll see a huge anti inflammatory positive.

Excellent thank you, will pick some up this morning! EOD it is.

 

[BeMe]

Log Update today 04Sep2025

Note: I'm so glad I take pics of my meals for EVO because I'd always forget what the hell I ate! LOL

Protein: 783 grams today!


Training today (I do a 'heavy duty' Mike Mentzer/Dorian Yates style of training - trash the muscle and get in and out):

Chest:
Bench press (under a rack - the kind that has the cheater hooks every 6 inches to 'give up' without a spotter
warmup with 25's x 2 sets (bloodflow, form check, injury check).
1 set with 45's x 15 (135lbs)
2 sets with 45's and a 25 x 12 reps (185lbs)
1 set with 2x45's for 8 reps (225lbs)
1 set with 2x45's for 4 reps (225lbs)
strip set immediately after with 45's (135lbs) to complete failure (the kind where you barely get the bar on the hook and have to shove your face under the bar to get out)

Back:
Seated row with Double D triangle grip **back to pulling the whole rack again, when I started after injury I had the pin at 35!**
warmup with pin at 85 x 2 sets x 10, deep stretch and pull into my lower core
1 set with pin at 135 x 15
2 sets with pin at 185 x 15
1 set with pin at 225 x 8 forced rep
1 strip set to pin at 135 to failure

Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 20
2 sets with 100's x 15
2 sets with 120's x 12
go immediately to:
1 set with 100's x 10
1 set with 80's to failure until I was forcing partials (with straps)

Calves (I want to end all workouts with this now)
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
If I don't walk away walking like I'm drunk I go back and do more

Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
5 sets to failure



Diet: 2MAD TODAY
(Meal1: Shake with Steak&Eggs w/ provolone cheese & Meal2: 2 steaks with half pound lean ground beef and banana protein drink)


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 0.55kg stirploin + 4 whole eggs with 4 slices provolone cheese):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

0.53kg stirploin steak:
1500 cals
160 P
95 F
0 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

4 slices provolone cheese
460 cals
44 P
44 F
1 C

Meal #1 Total:
3158 cals
388 P
181 F
22 C


Meal # 2 (1kg striploin steak and 0.5lb lean ground hamburger with a banana protein premix drink:

1kg striploin steak (in two steaks)
3000 cals
320 P
191 F
0 C

0.5lb lean ground hamburger
300 cals
45 P
12 F
0 C

1 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
160 cals
30 P
2.5 F
5 C

Meal #2 Total:
3460 cals
395 P
205 F
5 C

Total today 04Sep2025:
6618 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
Finished healing peptides (as seen in above lifts): GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
**NEW** Started evening of 01Sep2025:

-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- I can do a vacuum and when I flex my abs they look good and 'blocky'. Despite this I have what's called "ab muscle laxity" where I can look ripped with abs one second and then push out a big pot belly if I want to and look pregnant too. Apparently it's genetic but has a lot to do with visceral fat. My question is: I'd be all over retatrutide as it helps nuke visceral fat but it seems like it would be upwards of the price of HGH if I got up to a 5mg dose of it. Is there a retatrutide results or before/after retatrutide thread on here anywhere? I eat so much protein and meats I'm not hungry so I'm not looking for the food noise intervention but moreso the visceral fat incineration. Any feedback? @BeMe @LevButlerov

There's a lot of members running reta logs right now. If you search reta you'll find them.

I've been reading @Pigsy reta log and he's killing it

 

[Pigsy]

There's a lot of members running reta logs right now. If you search reta you'll find them.

I've been reading @Pigsy reta log and he's killing it

Yeah, love the stuff

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Docs know nothing about peptides.

Most of them don't know shit about anything in my experience... either that or they lie constantly.

 

[2Thick]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

@HarleyGuy this one is looking perfect if you ask me. the weekly breakdown of the cycle is outstanding. keep up the good work

 

[ceo]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

@HarleyGuy bros good to see you know how to make eggs fun. see too many people make them complicated. lots of good benefits to eggs

 

[BodyMonster34]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

bro daym that some good stuff. love the high protein A++. and i love the tren but i like it higher. i say 500mgs a week tren better

 

[HarleyGuy]

bro daym that some good stuff. love the high protein A++. and i love the tren but i like it higher. i say 500mgs a week tren better

Haha my weekly pin of 8cc (each are 4cc's into a large muscle) is today and just for you this one time I'll throw in 1cc of NF supertren to go with the NF trenomast. Because your posts crack me up.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I don’t think I’ve ever posted pics of my morning shake. Here’s part of the process…

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

Easy way to start the day with 152g of protein and 20g creatine.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Log Update today 30Aug2025

Protein: 704 grams today!@toddthelineman Bro I made it to 700 today... you wanna top this so I have a new goal?
**NEW** Raw Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with mother: 2 tbsp before each meal


Training today:

Core
Straight upward crunches 4 sets to failure - failure is taking longer already
Oblique angled crunches 4 sets each side to failure - failure is taking longer already

Cardio
Logged 12,000 steps by moving all day and going on a one hour walk with the dogs


Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a striploin steak - **see pics**):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton **see pics**:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

6 whole large eggs **see pics**:
480 cals
42 P
36 F
0 C

0.36kg striploin steak **see pics**:
946 cals
80 P
35 F
0 C

Meal #1 Total:
2524 cals
329 P
86 F
26 C


Meal # 2 (1.5lb of lean ground bison **see pics**:

1400 cals
180 P
60 F
0 C


Total today 23Aug2025:
3924 cals
509g Protein
146g Fat
26g Carbs


Peptides today:
GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**

Supps today (added Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal)


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
100mg MastP (I do this twice a week due to the ester)
100mg TrenA (I do this twice a week due to the ester)
The rest I do once weekly due to the longer esters

Orals:
**NEW** Orals (from Dbol to Anavar now):
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar evening

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar

Questions:
- @LevButlerov With my N2Guard arriving Wednesday can I go ahead with they gyno therapy you recommended? 40 Nolva/6.25 aromasin/81mg baby aspirin/3 caps N2Guard. I can start the N2Guard when it arrives Wednesday. My gyno was rated grade 1 only, by the surgeon and am going for an ultrasound to see how big the lump is beacause he thinks it's mostly fatty tissue (causing the sag). Will post the prices I got for everything soon.

Damn 704 grams is crazy work lol

 

[Noah Wixx]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

Premier makes amazing tasting shakes

 

[toddthelineman]

Damn 704 grams is crazy work lol

@HarleyGuy is unmatched! I think I could do it, at least in theory, but he’s consistently doing it now. He’ll hit 1000 I bet.

 

[Ulter]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

I'm liking this training. and i'm liking the stack. @HarleyGuy that is a lot of compounds i don't recommend that unless you really have experience with each as you do

 

[ROIDDERS]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

test, tren, deca, mast, dhb and anavar. that is a lot of gear wow. i like how you break down the classes of steroids too @HarleyGuy

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

@HarleyGuy bros good to see you know how to make eggs fun. see too many people make them complicated. lots of good benefits to eggs

They're the true superfood. How to you cook them bro? I like boiled throughout the day and carry a few in my man-bag, or scrambled coz it's fast.

 

[toddthelineman]

Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**

With the amount that you eat, how do you even feel fasted? When I was getting up to 600g of protein I felt well fed even if my food was digested I suppose your workouts and your metabolism are levels beyond what I have done.

I have a little anecdote about melanotan 2. It might just be me or the product that I had, but every time I took it, eventually I would develop lower back pain. And it could get bad. I stop it, it would resolve in a few days. Start again, it came back. My skin is a little more tan, and without a tan I have a slightly yellow tone that turns more golden. Pretty common Scandinavian skin tone I think. With melanotan 2, I turn a sort of dirty brown quite quickly. I used it to prevent burns early in the season as well as just an experiment in vanity, but I much prefer my natural tan

 

[HarleyGuy]

I'm liking this training. and i'm liking the stack. @HarleyGuy that is a lot of compounds i don't recommend that unless you really have experience with each as you do

@ROIDDERS @Ulter i agree it’s a monster stack and I’ve run them all before in some combo just not all together in this combo. I’m almost done the cycle and I don’t think I’ll go this high at my age again. I’m getting to 205 with less BF from 193 and then thinking of a high end TRT dose with EQ and Reta. Very excited about Reta. I know from my bloods I can run that all year basically.

 

[HarleyGuy]

With the amount that you eat, how do you even feel fasted? When I was getting up to 600g of protein I felt well fed even if my food was digested I suppose your workouts and your metabolism are levels beyond what I have done.

With the amount I’m eating it’s uncanny I don’t gain more weight but it comes on slow if it’s a clean bulk and VERY easily if I dirty bulk hence my near zero carb approach and zero fast carbs when I do have carbs.

When I eat that much I feel bogged down and go to bed with a food baby. If I fast for 24 hours+ it gives me energy and I feel more clear.

 

[toddthelineman]

With the amount I’m eating it’s uncanny I don’t gain more weight but it comes on slow if it’s a clean bulk and VERY easily if I dirty bulk hence my near zero carb approach and zero fast carbs when I do have carbs.

When I eat that much I feel bogged down and go to bed with a food baby. If I fast for 24 hours+ it gives me energy and I feel more clear.

Ooooh you were fasted fasted. I see!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ooooh you were fasted fasted. I see!

If you meant how do I feel throughout the day in general when not eating on my current diet I feel bogged down and have a food baby LOL. If I eat the wrong thing and the food baby doesn’t subside I fast the next day, like the time I ate a 1lb bag of dry roasted soya beans at night binge eating (see log a couple weeks ago), had to fast the whole next day.

 

[toddthelineman]

If you meant how do I feel throughout the day in general when not eating on my current diet I feel bogged down and have a food baby LOL. If I eat the wrong thing and the food baby doesn’t subside I fast the next day, like the time I ate a 1lb bag of dry roasted soya beans at night binge eating (see log a couple weeks ago), had to fast the whole next day.

Makes sense!

 

[RoySimpson]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

@HarleyGuy awesome log right here!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

With the amount that you eat, how do you even feel fasted? When I was getting up to 600g of protein I felt well fed even if my food was digested I suppose your workouts and your metabolism are levels beyond what I have done.

I was wondering that too. When I'm fully fat adapted and only eating meat it's super satiating and I sometimes went to bed completely forgetting to eat.

 

[toddthelineman]

I was wondering that too. When I'm fully fat adapted and only eating meat it's super satiating and I sometimes went to bed completely forgetting to eat.

Yes I got pretty skinny like that after a while. You gotta make it happen.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Yes I got pretty skinny like that after a while. You gotta make it happen.

Interesting. I think that's one of its super powers, among others.

But people don't give it long enough.

Need at least a month IMHO, but if they gave it a honest shot for 90 days they'd start to get it.

 

[toddthelineman]

Interesting. I think that's one of its super powers, among others.

But people don't give it long enough.

Need at least a month IMHO, but if they gave it a honest shot for 90 days they'd start to get it.

Absolutely.

 

[LevButlerov]

There's a lot of members running reta logs right now. If you search reta you'll find them.

I've been reading @Pigsy reta log and he's killing it

@BeMe @HarleyGuy we have a retatrutide mega thread but I slacked on updating it last week -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy awesome log right here!

Thanks bro, I appreciate everyone one of you!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

@BeMe @HarleyGuy we have a retatrutide mega thread but I slacked on updating it last week -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339

Oh awesome thanks for pointing that out bro!

I now have the retatrutide and was planning on seeking advice from The Forum on how to proceed with it.

I'm excited about it, I've never tired to lose weight before and have always had a beer gut and bitch tits.

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh awesome thanks for pointing that out bro!

I now have the retatrutide and was planning on seeking advice from The Forum on how to proceed with it.

I'm excited about it, I've never tired to lose weight before and have always had a beer gut and bitch tits.

Retatrutide is a life changer but you have limited food so try to buy low fat foods with reta if you can, like low fat milk etc, easier to digest with this GLP1.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Retatrutide is a life changer but you have limited food so try to buy low fat foods with reta if you can, like low fat milk etc, easier to digest with this GLP1.

Okay I might just stop drinking milk for now then.

But what about fatty meat? Should I try get leaner meat as well? Will that force my body to start using bodyfat stores?

I've got the carb refeed day on Saturdays (tomorrow for me) but could just do ground beef with all the fat rendered out, I usually soak that up with eggs.

That'll be no carbs apart from the refeed day and low fat, I never tried that before but plenty of body fat available, haha.

I probably wouldn't normally do that but now I'm on external testosterone things are different I guess.

Let's say my current cycle/goal is 100 days and I'll re-evaluate everything completely then and continue making adjustments as I get feedback and observe things myself.

There are fruit and vegetables available at the farmers market if I need too, and for far less money than I'm spending on meat.

I was planning on saving that for another time/season and just do meat & eggs to keep things simple and get sliced and reduce a few cup sizes.

I'm open to anything though.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today: Thursday 04Sep2025

**I'm writing the day of the week now in the banner update because I keep using the same template every day and forget to change the date LOL

**Note: No pics of meal #1 except the shake but it's a standard HarleyGuy meal # 1.


Protein: 708 grams today!


Training today (I do a 'heavy duty' Mike Mentzer/Dorian Yates style of training - trash the muscle and get in and out):

Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup: 1 plate (135lbs) x 2 sets x 15 for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 4 (felt good to hit 4 plates after my injury!!!)
1 set with 4 plates x 2 (felt that second one, damn!)
1 set with 2 plates x 8

Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure

Crunches
3 sets to failure

Calves (I want to end all workouts with this now)
Standing calf raise machine
5 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest
If I don't walk away walking like I'm drunk I go back and do more


Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (Standard: Protein shake + 6 whole eggs with 500g egg whites + 4 slices provolone cheese):

Protein shake (upon waking **see pics**)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

6 whole large eggs:
540 cals
48 P
40 F
0 C

500g egg whites:
245 cals
50 P
0 F
5 C

4 slices provolone cheese
460 cals
44 P
44 F
1 C

Meal #1 Total:
2083 cals
294 P
99 F
27 C


Meal # 2 (1kg tenderloin and 0.5kg striploin with an avocado and tomatoes/red peppers:

0.5kg striploin steak
1500 cals
160 P
95 F
0 C

1kg beef tenderloin (three tenderloins each about 0.3kg - the pics don't do their thickness justice!)
2500 cals
250 P
150 F
0 C

1 Avocado
320 cals
4 P
30 F
17 C

Meal #2 Total:
4320 cals
414 P
275 F
17 C

Total today 04Sep2025 (Thursday):
6403 cals
708g Protein
374g Fat
44g Carbs


Peptides today:
Finished healing peptides: GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
**NEW DOSE** NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard (It's still in Montreal at the moment, any day now!)


GEAR today & breakdown **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Weekly Pin **See pics - all Nordic Fusion at the moment**:

Pin # 1 = about 5CC **see pics**
4cc Rx TestE (Delatestryl Rx 200mg/ml)
1cc TestP (200mg/ml)
*right quad- don't worry quads and glutes used to 5cc* **see pics**

Pin # 2 = about 4.5CC **see pics**
1.5cc (150mg) NPP (this is biweekly),
1cc Supertren = 100mg TrenE + 50mg TrenA (ran out of NF Trenomast)
1cc (100mg) DHB,
1cc (100mg) Mast P (this is biweekly)
*left glute **spared you the pic **

Orals: 40mg NF Anavar ED:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar ED (20mg b.i.d.)

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
**NEW** Started evening of 01Sep2025:

-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- How did I not start listening to your podcast sooner? Just listened to # 176 today (Retatrutide). @Mobster and @stevesmi (I think that was you?), fucking well done! I'm gonna order five 30mg vials and start a long term protocol. Old fucks like me pushing 50 this is epic! @vanlife_gymbum @LevButlerov @BeMe @Npcclassicphysique champ @Pigsy @toddthelineman @RoySimpson I'm sure you all already listen?

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay I might just stop drinking milk for now then.

But what about fatty meat? Should I try get leaner meat as well? Will that force my body to start using bodyfat stores?

I've got the carb refeed day on Saturdays (tomorrow for me) but could just do ground beef with all the fat rendered out, I usually soak that up with eggs.

That'll be no carbs apart from the refeed day and low fat, I never tried that before but plenty of body fat available, haha.

I probably wouldn't normally do that but now I'm on external testosterone things are different I guess.

Let's say my current cycle/goal is 100 days and I'll re-evaluate everything completely then and continue making adjustments as I get feedback and observe things myself.

There are fruit and vegetables available at the farmers market if I need too, and for far less money than I'm spending on meat.

I was planning on saving that for another time/season and just do meat & eggs to keep things simple and get sliced and reduce a few cup sizes.

I'm open to anything though.

You should stick to your diet for you as it is since working but once you start the retatrutide see which foods you can digest go slow.

 

[HarleyGuy]

While it's a fun thing to do there's no actual need to hit 700+g protein

@Mobster While I'm in total agreement with this I'd love hear the science behind not needing that high of protein. It's at the point now where my diet is such that I can't help but get to 600 now every day and sometimes 700. I'd have to add in more carbs and less meat which would bloat me and I'd look soft; I've tried for decades to make carbs work for me and the only time they do is if I wanna show up somewhere looking super filled out I can binge eat some fast carbs and look amazing for that night only. But the daily dense and lean look I need this diet.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update Friday 05Sep2025:

-202 lbs (was down to 193lbs during 6 week layoff due to armwresting tendons injury in both arms - shot back up fast since then)
-Morning shot relaxed

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Log Update Friday 05Sep2025:

-202 lbs (was down to 193lbs during 6 week layoff due to armwresting tendons injury in both arms - shot back up fast since then)
-Morning shot relaxed

Damn, 202 is crazy bro. You're looking tuff as!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Damn, 202 is crazy bro. You're looking tuff as!

Thanks brother! DM'd you about your 12-step program, checking in.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Did anyone notice my salbutamol inhaler on the sink in my morning pic posted just above? You'd have to look close. I have it on standby for when I inject tren . The shit we do eh?

I think this will be my goodbye farewell cycle with tren given that I'm almost 50 yrs old.

 

[BodyMonster34]

Haha my weekly pin of 8cc (each are 4cc's into a large muscle) is today and just for you this one time I'll throw in 1cc of NF supertren to go with the NF trenomast. Because your posts crack me up.

bro you should run tren with the intention of ending up in prison. then you know the dose right

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Thanks brother! DM'd you about your 12-step program, checking in.

Thanks bro, I'll try reply before before I bus into town this morning. I'm feeling pretty spiritual though haha.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

bro you should run tren with the intention of ending up in prison. then you know the dose right

Logging takes some of the trial and error out of it =)

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Did anyone notice my salbutamol inhaler on the sink in my morning pic posted just above? You'd have to look close. I have it on standby for when I inject tren . The shit we do eh?

I think this will be my goodbye farewell cycle with tren given that I'm almost 50 yrs old.

What's that bro? One of those 1940's inhalers they used to prescribe to woman for weightloss and staying up all night?

You'll still have plenty of Testosterone to ride on!

 

[ceo]

They're the true superfood. How to you cook them bro? I like boiled throughout the day and carry a few in my man-bag, or scrambled coz it's fast.

bros my wife cooks them many ways. she asian i couldn't even tell you the things she does

 

[Ulter]

@ROIDDERS @Ulter i agree it’s a monster stack and I’ve run them all before in some combo just not all together in this combo. I’m almost done the cycle and I don’t think I’ll go this high at my age again. I’m getting to 205 with less BF from 193 and then thinking of a high end TRT dose with EQ and Reta. Very excited about Reta. I know from my bloods I can run that all year basically.

hey man i can't criticize you. have you seen my stack on my log? lol.

 

[ballin2504]

Log Update today 02Sep2025

Protein **NEW PROTEIN PR**: 784 grams today!


Training today:

Rest Day

Core
Did 1000 crunches in various sets, didn't stop til got to 1000.



Diet: 2MAD TODAY (Boring Meal1 you're all used to and same with Meal2 but was chicken, no red meat OMG )


Meal # 1 (Protein shake and 500g egg whites + 6 whole eggs with a 12 pieces of bacon):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g egg white carton:
260 cals
55 P
0 F
5 C

4 whole large eggs:
360 cals
32 P
27 F
0 C

12 pieces of bacon
550 cals
40 P
40 F
10 C

Meal #1 Total:
2008 cals
274 P
92 F
36 C


Meal # 2 (1.2kg boneless skinless chicken breat with 4 Premiere Protein banana milk carton**see pics**:

1.2kg chicken
1480 cals
390 P
36 F
0 C

4 Protein drinks (banana - ready to drink in carton)
640 cals
120 P
10 F
20 C

Meal #2 Total:
2120 cals
510 P
46 F
20 C

Total today 02Sep2025:
4128 cals
784g Protein
138g Fat
56g Carbs


Peptides today:
**Glow is done tonight - last shot** GLOW (70mg total per vial - GHK 50mg/TB 10mg/BPC 10mg) @ 1.25mg/250mcg/250mcg twice daily AM and PM
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
NAC 1600mg
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard


GEAR today **note: orals switched to Anavar due to E2 bloods and bloat:

Pin:
No pin today

Orals: 40mg Anavar:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)

Breakdown of Weekly cycle:
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
300mg Deca
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar

Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


**NEW** Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov How helpful would the baby aspirin be and have you ever used it?

@HarleyGuy that’s a hell of a lot of protein man. I’d be so stuffed I’d have to puke lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

@HarleyGuy that’s a hell of a lot of protein man. I’d be so stuffed I’d have to puke lol

It's been 10 weeks of this I have two weeks to go and I'm counting the days... it's been a ride man. From 205lbs, injured and went down to 193lbs and building myself back to 205 again or more. Gained 10lbs so far from my 193lbs and BF has barely gone up. This log and EVO has helped IMMENSELY!

And yes, I walk around with a constant food baby and feel like I weigh 400lbs LOL.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

bros my wife cooks them many ways. she asian i couldn't even tell you the things she does

You're a lucky man! I had a Japanese girlfriend for the two years I lived in Tokyo back in the day, she was like a master chef, could do fancy knife tricks and stuff too, but she was just an average Japanese girl, they're all masters.

Also Tokyo constantly smells of BBQ meat so you just want to eat meat all the time =)

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today: Friday 05Sep2025


Protein: 684 grams today!


Training today:

Rest day



Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (500g (1+ lbs) of pressed cottage cheese and 12 slices of bacon with protein shake):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g pressed cottage cheese **see pics**:
540 cals
108 P
4 F
12 C

12 slices bacon **see pics**:
528 cals
36 P
54 F
0 C


Meal #1 Total:
1906 cals
296 P
73 F
33 C


Meal # 2 (1kg striploin steak and a boat load of lycopene with 2 protein drinks:

1kg striploin steak **see pics**
3000 cals
320 P
190 F
0 C

6 Tomatoes **see pics**
Lycopene LOL
200 cals
8 P
2 F
37 C

2 Premier Protein banana drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C

Meal #2 Total:
3520 cals
388 P
212 F
54 C


Total today 05Sep2025 (Thursday):
5426 cals
684g Protein
285g Fat
87g Carbs


Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**


Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
**NEW DOSE** NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard (It's still in Montreal at the moment, any day now!)


GEAR pinned today and weekly breakdown:

No pin today (see yesterdays pics and log for a good show)

Orals: 40mg NF Anavar ED:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)


Breakdown of Weekly cycle (*NEW: Deca for NPP for last two weeks):
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
**NEW** 300mg NPP (150mg twice a week)
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar ED (20mg b.i.d.)


Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
**NEW** Started evening of 01Sep2025:

-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- @LevButlerov Just to confirm the 6.25 aromasin is ED (I do morning with the 20 tamox) and the baby aspirin is EOD?
- @BeMe If I'm ever in prison again I want you to mail me your logs, I'm loving reading through yours and watch as you step it up and progress. You too @vanlife_gymbum. In fact you're welcome to mail me anything, but I'm off probation in January so I'd have to go pretty postal again to have to go straight back in except for a few nights waiting for a bail hearing LOL.

 

[HarleyGuy]

This massive cycle ends on 20Sep (two more pins) and I plan on being above 205lbs with lower BF than when I started. My question is, on 21Sep what should be throw the nutrition out the window celebration cheat meal? I'm thinking I go big and do a leg and deadlift day and then hit a buffet somewhere and go apeshit on anything I want. Or order two large pizzas and try and get through them both?

Then dial the gear back start the RETA and stay at 205+ at 5'9" but rock solid and lean.

Any thoughts?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log INJURY 06Sep data update:

-I'm in my 12th week of a 14 week cycle. Started at about 205lbs at 17% BF
-Around the beginning of cycle while I was trying to drop BF before starting I tore my tendons armwrestling (both arms) on 15June2025 and ended up losing weight and strength so fast I went down to 193lbs fast!
-Stayed on cycle and started this log and dove into EVO on 26Jul2025
-Used peptide science, EVO motivation and advice, pure grit with my log holding me accountable to build back to my old weight lifts today, after a 6 week lay-off from the gym from 15Jun until late July.
-Now back up to 203lbs on 06Sep2025 and shooting to get back to 205lbs at 15% BF

The cycle ended up being to offset what the injury did (and would have done even worse) had I not stayed determined.

Check out the drastic damage it caused in my Renpho graphs below.

 

[ceo]

You're a lucky man! I had a Japanese girlfriend for the two years I lived in Tokyo back in the day, she was like a master chef, could do fancy knife tricks and stuff too, but she was just an average Japanese girl, they're all masters.

Also Tokyo constantly smells of BBQ meat so you just want to eat meat all the time =)

bros dayum that sound interesting. how they BBQ though in middle of city in buildings, they go on roof?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Edit: Log INJURY 06Sep data update:

I just shocked my own self and looked at the graph and realized I went down to 188lbs after the injury. So journey from 188lbs to 205lbs. Crazy.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

-Around the beginning of cycle while I was trying to drop BF before starting I tore my tendons armwrestling (both arms) on 15June2025 and ended up losing weight and strength so fast I went down to 193lbs fast!

What are your future plans around arn wrestling? I asked my old boss for a copy of his xray pics to show you

-Stayed on cycle and started this log and dove into EVO on 26Jul2025

Wow that doesn't seem that long ago on paper but reading through your log feels like years worth

-Used peptide science, EVO motivation and advice, pure grit with my log holding me accountable to build back to my old weight lifts today, after a 6 week lay-off from the gym from 15Jun until late July.

You have stumbled across a winning formula there.

Awesome work bro, very inspiring.

 

[HarleyGuy]

What are your future plans around arn wrestling? I asked my old boss for a copy of his xray pics to show you

To never, ever, do it again . As bodybuilders we don't train to put that much torque or strain on our tendons at that angle. Being strong at that specific angle has no use except in armwrestling or maybe in rock climbing.

Wow that doesn't seem that long ago on paper but reading through your log feels like years worth

Ya man I was doing this on my own and then got injured bad, found EVO and went all-in with my first post on 26Jul2025. Finding EVO is what motivated me to go from 188lbs (as seen in the graph) back to 205lbs and I have about 90-95% of my strength back. Staying on cycle and not giving up along with the peptides ended up being a great idea or I'd still be wearing a brace.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

To never, ever, do it again . As bodybuilders we don't train to put that much torque or strain on our tendons at that angle. Being strong at that specific angle has no use except in armwrestling or maybe in rock climbing.

Excellent, that was going to be my suggestion. Didn't have to suggest that to my old boss because the option was removed when he broke his lower arm clear in two. I'm pretty sure he lost his mortgage money that night too but he "didn't want to talk about it"

Ya man I was doing this on my own and then got injured bad, found EVO and went all-in with my first post on 26Jul2025. Finding EVO is what motivated me to go from 188lbs (as seen in the graph) back to 205lbs and I have about 90-95% of my strength back. Staying on cycle and not giving up along with the peptides ended up being a great idea or I'd still be wearing a brace.

205 is nearly 100kg right? That's a lot of extra lean muscle man! You'll already be strong as fuck compared to most guys out there.

 

[HarleyGuy]

205 is nearly 100kg right? That's a lot of extra lean muscle man! You'll already be strong as fuck compared to most guys out there.

Ya bro it's 93kg. If I could keep my BF% the same I'd go to 100kg but it would take forever. I don't like to put on fluffy bullshit water weight just to lift more for nothing and have it just go away after I'm off the bloatlord type juice. I prefer the what you see is what you get look, meaning I have good cardio and can go no matter the weight I'm at. I could get to 100kg easy but I'd be out of breath putting the groceries away LOL.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Ya bro it's 93kg. If I could keep my BF% the same I'd go to 100kg but it would take forever. I don't like to put on fluffy bullshit water weight just to lift more for nothing and have it just go away after I'm off the bloatlord type juice. I prefer the what you see is what you get look, meaning I have good cardio and can go no matter the weight I'm at. I could get to 100kg easy but I'd be out of breath putting the groceries away LOL.

Nice man, I agree with all that and my goals are very similar. I saw this interview with Lee Haney once where he said at his gym they used to "diet up" for a show not bulk and cut. That seemed like a good idea to me.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

bros dayum that sound interesting. how they BBQ though in middle of city in buildings, they go on roof?

Nah man they have these places called Izakaya in every building on every corner, often translated as "pub" but that's not right, they're meat places that server beer, but I don't call a bar a peanut stand so I dunno where that came from.

At the Izayaka they usually have the kotatsu floor tables, they all look kinda the same. At the table there is a small grill and they bring you plates of thinly sliced raw meat and you grab it with your chopsticks and throw it on the little grill yourself, or just eat it raw if you're already half drunk or late for the train or whatever.

I think this is because steel was rare in Japan, so only the chief has a knife and does all the cutting, everyone else has chopsticks which are just bits of wood. But I think a lot of things.

Man made me hungry remembering those places

 

[ceo]

Nah man they have these places called Izakaya in every building on every corner, often translated as "pub" but that's not right, they're meat places that server beer, but I don't call a bar a peanut stand so I dunno where that came from.

At the Izayaka they usually have the kotatsu floor tables, they all look kinda the same. At the table there is a small grill and they bring you plates of thinly sliced raw meat and you grab it with your chopsticks and throw it on the little grill yourself, or just eat it raw if you're already half drunk or late for the train or whatever.

I think this is because steel was rare in Japan, so only the chief has a knife and does all the cutting, everyone else has chopsticks which are just bits of wood. But I think a lot of things.

Man made me hungry remembering those places

bros can you post a picture of that? seems crazy in the middle of a city

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

bros can you post a picture of that? seems crazy in the middle of a city

Sure thing bro, there's a few different styles so I tried to find a few different ones. They're not fancy restaurants, they're where most common people eat and are cheap. They're busy places laid out something like this

You can get any type of beef, chicken, fish or offal. Side bowls of rice are just the default and one will come as soon as you sit down. The Japanese also use rice as a 'palet clenser' to wash the taste of one thing out before trying the next.

Every weird part of an animal I've ever eaten was at one of these in Japan. Tongue is really common

There's also a similar style called Shabu Shabu where there's a communal hot water trough that goes around the whole counter like at a Sushi Train place execpt instead of train tracks there's a river of boiling water.

Then you pickup the thinly sliced meat with your chopsticks and dip it in the water and hold for ten seconds and it's cooked.

Check the Wiki page about them too:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izakaya
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabu-shabu

 

[25homes]

Here's my bloods from 2 days ago during my blast cycle. In my humble opinion my liver is somehow in good shape as are my kidneys. I think Lev recommended 2 caps because it's part of a gyno reduction cycle of Nolva/Aromasin at 40mg/6.25 with the N2Guard as support. Take a look though if you can read the Canadian results and let me know what you think.

What do you use the N2Guard for personally?

p.s. Today is a rest day but I'm gonna hit 600 protein easy again I have 1.5lbs of ground bison thawed and ready in the fridge with a protein shake to go with it. Breakfast was 500g of egg whites with 6 eggs and a steak haha. I'm on a mission!

N2guard great for everyday use bro

 

[HarleyGuy]

Sure thing bro, there's a few different styles so I tried to find a few different ones. They're not fancy restaurants, they're where most common people eat and are cheap. They're busy places laid out something like this

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You can get any type of beef, chicken, fish or offal. Side bowls of rice are just the default and one will come as soon as you sit down. The Japanese also use rice as a 'palet clenser' to wash the taste of one thing out before trying the next.

Every weird part of an animal I've ever eaten was at one of these in Japan. Tongue is really common

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There's also a similar style called Shabu Shabu where there's a communal hot water trough that goes around the whole counter like at a Sushi Train place execpt instead of train tracks there's a river of boiling water.

Then you pickup the thinly sliced meat with your chopsticks and dip it in the water and hold for ten seconds and it's cooked.

Check the Wiki page about them too:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izakaya
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabu-shabu

This place looks amazing but I don't think they'd be able to make enough meat fast enough for me in the quantity I'd want LOL. First thing I thought haha.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Log Update today: Saturday 06Sep2025


Protein: 622 grams today!
Progress pic update below
Hit 205lbs this morning pic below

Training today:

Legs:
Squats
warmup: 1 plate (135lbs) x 2 sets x 10 for form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 x 10
1 sets with 1 plate and 35 x 8
2 sets with 2 plates x 8
1 set with 2 plates and a 25 x 6
1 set with 1 plates x 8

Seated quad extension:
3 sets to failure

Prone hamstring curl:
3 sets to failure

Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure

Crunches
3 sets to failure

Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest




Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (500g air fried hot capicollo w/ 8 slices of provolone cheese on a wrap and a protein shake):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g hot capicollo air fried **see pics**:
3400 cals
270P
270 F
0 C

8 slices provolone cheese **see pics**:
780 cals
22 P
55 F
2 C

1 tortilla wrap:
200 cals
6 F
6 F
30 C

Meal #1 Total:
5218 cals
450 P
336 F
53 C


Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with half pound shredded cheese (225g)):

1lb lean ground beef **see pics**
620 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C

225g shredded cheese **see pics**
900 cals
15 P
70 F
0 C

2 Premier Protein banana drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C

Meal #2 Total:
1840 cals
172 P
98 F
10 C


Total today 06Sep2025 (Saturday):
5426 cals
622g Protein
285g Fat
87g Carbs


Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**
**new** PT-141 1mg (kids are gone for the weekend! LOL)

Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
**NEW DOSE** NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard (It's still in Montreal at the moment, any day now!)


GEAR pinned today and weekly breakdown:

No pin today (see pics from Thursday for a good gear and pin show)

Orals: 40mg NF Anavar ED:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)


Breakdown of Weekly cycle (*NEW: Deca for NPP for last two weeks):
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
**NEW** 300mg NPP (150mg twice a week)
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar ED (20mg b.i.d.)


Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
**NEW** Started evening of 01Sep2025:

-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- If you see in my progress pic 205lbs is almost exactly when I start to lose definition. I'm thinking of dialing back the calories a bit to maintenance level and introducing cardio to taper off the last two weeks of my cycle then start on RETA. My goal will be to try to hang onto all the muscle and try and slightly lower my BF% where it's at now around 16% until I'm done the cycle. Then lean out with RETA on an undecided cruise and maintain at 200lbs. Or! Should I just keep blasting for the next two weeks?
- @LevButlerov Does Nolva make you have an irritable mood? LOL

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

This place looks amazing but I don't think they'd be able to make enough meat fast enough for me in the quantity I'd want LOL. First thing I thought haha.

If you made a joke like that around them they'd start bringing out shit that is still alive. They're serious little buggers I wouldn't test them personally

One place my boss took me, I think he was the richest guy I ever met, he could bribe the police in Japan somehow which is unheard of outside Yakuza bosses and whatever. We went 190km a hour though the tunnel under Tokyo in his mazarati sports car surving around traffic too, and kept that up for half an hour until we got to this restaurant

It was laid like how their federal villages used to be the village head would have this entertaining shack with one of those BBQ tables in it. This one had a little lake with staff fishing in it and they'd bring the bring the fish to you still alive on a stick the sadistic fucks but it was pretty sweet.

My Japanese was poor at this time and rich boss was bad at English too and I tried to make a joke about how we are taught not to eat raw chicken and next thing I know a man appeared holding a chicken.

This was in 2005 and I can't remember what the exact sequence of events were but the things I remember were guy offering to let ME kill the chicken, I was like I'm with rich guy, we're the customer bro you do it, and he did.

And then he stayed to see the what the white guy recons of the most expensive chicken in a Tokyo and I had to eat this shit without spewing or dry retching with these guys watching me.

 

[toddthelineman]

If you made a joke like that around them they'd start bringing out shit that is still alive. They're serious little buggers I wouldn't test them personally

One place my boss took me, I think he was the richest guy I ever met, he could bribe the police in Japan somehow which is unheard of outside Yakuza bosses and whatever. We went 190km a hour though the tunnel under Tokyo in his mazarati sports car surving around traffic too, and kept that up for half an hour until we got to this restaurant

It was laid like how their federal villages used to be the village head would have this entertaining shack with one of those BBQ tables in it. This one had a little lake with staff fishing in it and they'd bring the bring the fish to you still alive on a stick the sadistic fucks but it was pretty sweet.

My Japanese was poor at this time and rich boss was bad at English too and I tried to make a joke about how we are taught not to eat raw chicken and next thing I know a man appeared holding a chicken.

This was in 2005 and I can't remember what the exact sequence of events were but the things I remember were guy offering to let ME kill the chicken, I was like I'm with rich guy, we're the customer bro you do it, and he did.

And then he stayed to see the what the white guy recons of the most expensive chicken in a Tokyo and I had to eat this shit without spewing or dry retching with these guys watching me.

That’s a helluva a story bro! I would have eaten anything they pulled out. They could’ve clowned me pretty good

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

Wow so that's 152g Protein in the shake all up? That's pretty crazy atcually. I want to get in on this but how do you find getting those down?

I was thinking of blending six eggs, two bananas and the whey we found yesterday when I get it, and for the liquid use half n half if normal milk had too many carbs and additives. The half and half trick is what Vince Gironda wrote about in his book for his 36-eggs-via-shake cycle. 12 eggs in half/half, three times a day... yumbo.

I know a lot of carnivore guys like blueberries because they're largely in the same form as millions of years ago compared to say bananas which we would not recognise as food how they used to be. But would they work as well or have too much sugar? Skin fruit like that I think I can already buy from Islanders and they're really easy to store.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

I tore the tendons in both my elbows armwrestling my 24 year old and 22 year old over and over because they wanted to beat me on Fathers Day.

I heard back from my old boss who broke his arm armwrestling at a bar in Singapore, he said "18 breaks" whatever that means and here's the x-ray of his rod

 

[toddthelineman]

I heard back from my old boss who broke his arm armwrestling at a bar in Singapore, he said "18 breaks" whatever that means and here's the x-ray of his rod

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one of the only people that ever beat me as an adult was an Asian guy in a bar hahaha. There was a whole bunch of people arm wrestling. I said I wanted the winner. The winner said, “nah, you can arm wrestle him”. Well the guy wasn’t very big and he was covered up. Took me down like nothing and then pulled up his sleeve. Forearm was like a football. His arm was so short he really just twisted my wrist hahaha.

 

[LevButlerov]

Log Update today: Saturday 06Sep2025


Protein: 622 grams today!
Progress pic update below
Hit 205lbs this morning pic below

Training today:

Legs:
Squats
warmup: 1 plate (135lbs) x 2 sets x 10 for form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 x 10
1 sets with 1 plate and 35 x 8
2 sets with 2 plates x 8
1 set with 2 plates and a 25 x 6
1 set with 1 plates x 8

Seated quad extension:
3 sets to failure

Prone hamstring curl:
3 sets to failure

Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure

Crunches
3 sets to failure

Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest




Diet: 2MAD TODAY


Meal # 1 (500g air fried hot capicollo w/ 8 slices of provolone cheese on a wrap and a protein shake):

Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
4 tbsp cinnamon
vanilla extract

838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C

500g hot capicollo air fried **see pics**:
3400 cals
270P
270 F
0 C

8 slices provolone cheese **see pics**:
780 cals
22 P
55 F
2 C

1 tortilla wrap:
200 cals
6 F
6 F
30 C

Meal #1 Total:
5218 cals
450 P
336 F
53 C


Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with half pound shredded cheese (225g)):

1lb lean ground beef **see pics**
620 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C

225g shredded cheese **see pics**
900 cals
15 P
70 F
0 C

2 Premier Protein banana drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C

Meal #2 Total:
1840 cals
172 P
98 F
10 C


Total today 06Sep2025 (Saturday):
5426 cals
622g Protein
285g Fat
87g Carbs


Peptides today:
Jeotropin HGH 3iu @ night fasted
MK677 20mg right before bed
**new** Melanotan2 - about 3-4 hours after stand up tanning **no tanning today**
**new** PT-141 1mg (kids are gone for the weekend! LOL)

Supps today (reduced Apple Cider Vinegar):
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal (I usually take what the bottle says and double it LOL)
**NEW DOSE** NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 3 = 30mg biotin (thin hair lol) **upped this to 30mg**
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 100mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
**COMING SOON** N2Guard (It's still in Montreal at the moment, any day now!)


GEAR pinned today and weekly breakdown:

No pin today (see pics from Thursday for a good gear and pin show)

Orals: 40mg NF Anavar ED:
20mg anavar morning + 20mg anavar night (or sublingual before workout on non-rest days)


Breakdown of Weekly cycle (*NEW: Deca for NPP for last two weeks):
800mg TestE
200mg TestP (equals 1g Test in the form of my own "Sust" blend)
**NEW** 300mg NPP (150mg twice a week)
200mg TrenA (100mg twice a week)
200mg MastP (100mg twice a week)
100mg DHB
oral: 40mg anavar ED (20mg b.i.d.)


Total weekly gear breakdown:
1g T
500mg 19-Nor
300mg DHT
280mg Anavar


Ancillaries (gyno reduction protocol - 6 weeks):
**NEW** Started evening of 01Sep2025:

-20mg tamoxifen (Nolvadex) morning
-20mg tamoxifen night
-6.25mg aromasin morning


Questions:
- If you see in my progress pic 205lbs is almost exactly when I start to lose definition. I'm thinking of dialing back the calories a bit to maintenance level and introducing cardio to taper off the last two weeks of my cycle then start on RETA. My goal will be to try to hang onto all the muscle and try and slightly lower my BF% where it's at now around 16% until I'm done the cycle. Then lean out with RETA on an undecided cruise and maintain at 200lbs. Or! Should I just keep blasting for the next two weeks?
- @LevButlerov Does Nolva make you have an irritable mood? LOL

Impressive intake you're on the next level with the food? @HarleyGuy

Sure thing bro, there's a few different styles so I tried to find a few different ones. They're not fancy restaurants, they're where most common people eat and are cheap. They're busy places laid out something like this

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You can get any type of beef, chicken, fish or offal. Side bowls of rice are just the default and one will come as soon as you sit down. The Japanese also use rice as a 'palet clenser' to wash the taste of one thing out before trying the next.

Every weird part of an animal I've ever eaten was at one of these in Japan. Tongue is really common

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There's also a similar style called Shabu Shabu where there's a communal hot water trough that goes around the whole counter like at a Sushi Train place execpt instead of train tracks there's a river of boiling water.

Then you pickup the thinly sliced meat with your chopsticks and dip it in the water and hold for ten seconds and it's cooked.

Check the Wiki page about them too:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izakaya
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabu-shabu

thats actually legit high protein place grilled style too.

Total today 06Sep2025 (Saturday):
5426 cals
622g Protein
285g Fat
87g Carbs

That's perfect protein level you are popping hard

Questions:
- If you see in my progress pic 205lbs is almost exactly when I start to lose definition. I'm thinking of dialing back the calories a bit to maintenance level and introducing cardio to taper off the last two weeks of my cycle then start on RETA. My goal will be to try to hang onto all the muscle and try and slightly lower my BF% where it's at now around 16% until I'm done the cycle. Then lean out with RETA on an undecided cruise and maintain at 200lbs. Or! Should I just keep blasting for the next two weeks?
- @LevButlerov Does Nolva make you have an irritable mood? LOL

You look good the size is legit I really think you are much thicker right now.
For the retatrutide, if you add it, first lets see how you feel and we can dial back fat and protein for more carbs and protein.

Nolva Q, it definitely can for some people. Nolva plays with your estrogen and that can throw your mood out of balance pretty quick. Some guys get short tempered, some just feel flat or annoyed easier than usual. It’s not everyone, but it’s common enough that it’s worth keeping an eye on. If you notice it getting worse, you might want to adjust we could have lowered e2 too much. Lets switch to 20mgs nolvadex AM and no pm dose and 6.25mgs aromasin EOD.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Nolva Q, it definitely can for some people. Nolva plays with your estrogen and that can throw your mood out of balance pretty quick. Some guys get short tempered, some just feel flat or annoyed easier than usual. It’s not everyone, but it’s common enough that it’s worth keeping an eye on. If you notice it getting worse, you might want to adjust we could have lowered e2 too much. Lets switch to 20mgs nolvadex AM and no pm dose and 6.25mgs aromasin EOD.

Ok I can adjust starting tonight. I felt it big time yesterday for the first time then was fine again today. N2Guard is due to arrive tomorrow as well. I can get e2 checked as well in a couple weeks and see if we've crushed it or have it in range; I'm fine if the e2 is even in the mid to mid/high range.

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok I can adjust starting tonight. I felt it big time yesterday for the first time then was fine again today. N2Guard is due to arrive tomorrow as well. I can get e2 checked as well in a couple weeks and see if we've crushed it or have it in range; I'm fine if the e2 is even in the mid to mid/high range.

Lets recheck in 2 weeks but dial back a bit now.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Lets recheck in 2 weeks but dial back a bit now.

Deal... I don't know how you do it but thank God for all your help with this and with everyone else's logs too. You're the GOAT on forums bro and I've been around since dial up AOL