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Pat7x

Pat7x

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I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
 

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Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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Welcome to logging on EVO, will be subscribing
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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This looks solid bro!! Should kill it on this one, will be following along 👊👌
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
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Now FULLY welcome to the EVO family :D @Pat7x thank you for sharing now your log is approved but lets do this as a TRT log as you work your way into the bulk, sounds good? :D
Pat7x said:
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus
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This is your training now or planned?
Training, Cardio
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
Pat7x said:
My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.
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This is your plan but how about food you eat now how much do you need to move up?

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
Pat7x said:
The attachment is current physique
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You're looking big and thick, whats your bodyfat now?
Pat7x said:
Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
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No joke no games here, with cabergoline you don't want to play, if you get the fakes you'll mess up your prolactin levels. And you need very little of it to work, 0.25mgs/week so one of those domestic-supply bottles will last a long time, good investment imo.

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z
 
LevButlerov said:
Now FULLY welcome to the EVO family :D @Pat7x thank you for sharing now your log is approved but lets do this as a TRT log as you work your way into the bulk, sounds good? :D

This is your training now or planned?
Training, Cardio
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc

This is your plan but how about food you eat now how much do you need to move up?

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

You're looking big and thick, whats your bodyfat now?

No joke no games here, with cabergoline you don't want to play, if you get the fakes you'll mess up your prolactin levels. And you need very little of it to work, 0.25mgs/week so one of those domestic-supply bottles will last a long time, good investment imo.

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z
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I do normal exercise like everybody else but 24-30 sets per muscle groups a week (basic movements nothing special)

For the food right now i do 2200 cal
250g+ protein
120g carbs only post workout
80g fat
I need to bump up slowly each week for bulking

The supplements i take are the one I listed earlier

Thank you for the compliment but i actually don’t know my BF% my digital scale said 22% but i know it’s inaccurate

Thank you for the advice I will go with Domestic-supply.

Update photo today after 1:45 hours arms training.
 

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I do normal exercise like everybody else but 24-30 sets per muscle groups a week (basic movements nothing special)
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You might be overtraining was my concern that's why I ask :D @Pat7x
Pat7x said:
For the food right now i do 2200 cal
250g+ protein
120g carbs only post workout
80g fat
I need to bump up slowly each week for bulking
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How long have you been doing this?
Pat7x said:
The supplements i take are the one I listed earlier
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You need to add the digestive aids.
Pat7x said:
Thank you for the compliment but i actually don’t know my BF% my digital scale said 22% but i know it’s inaccurate
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Your bodyfat is 22% are you sure you want to bulk? might be real touch on your heart.
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Thank you for the advice I will go with Domestic-supply.
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Yes @domestic-supply.com is legit all around :D
Pat7x said:
Update photo today after 1:45 hours arms training.
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Arms are looking big :D
 
LevButlerov said:
You might be overtraining was my concern that's why I ask :D @Pat7x

How long have you been doing this?

You need to add the digestive aids.

Your bodyfat is 22% are you sure you want to bulk? might be real touch on your heart.

Yes @domestic-supply.com is legit all around :D

Arms are looking big :D
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Thank you,
I will look into it.
Im sure i wanna bulk
I come a long way from this picture, 220lbs 40% BF down to 166lbs and bulked up to 191lbs then cutting down to current physique. Yes, I feel small, I wanna get big
 

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Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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caber is pricey. check napsgear. BUT you really don't need much of it that is the thing people don't realize @Pat7x
 
stevesmi said:
caber is pricey. check napsgear. BUT you really don't need much of it that is the thing people don't realize @Pat7x
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I need it just to have it on hand, I will check my bloodwork week 5-6 after my first deca pin. i didn’t have it and didn’t even use AI last time with 400test 300deca dbol/adrol. End of cycle developed mild gyno and had to run Nolva for 8 weeks to fixed it. I will check Napsgear thank you!
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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@Pat7x bro i give you mad love and respect. you pushing things nicely. keep the grind going. i like it
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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yourmuscleshop is not approved on here i don't think. but they are approved on our sister forums. their reviews are generally 99% positive from what i've seen @Pat7x
 
Pat7x said:
For the food right now i do 2200 cal
250g+ protein
120g carbs only post workout
80g fat
I need to bump up slowly each week for bulking
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This is smart play, i see a lot of people smash huge calories straight away before the body is ready for it, not point smothering a campfire with wood before its hot enough to burn through it.
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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bros give you a lot of props @Pat7x let see how you do on this one. i love the consistent training splits
 
*UPDATE
I was planning to do 600mg Test at first, but i will reduce it to 500mg. Deca and Dbol stay the same.
 
Pat7x said:
I need it just to have it on hand, I will check my bloodwork week 5-6 after my first deca pin. i didn’t have it and didn’t even use AI last time with 400test 300deca dbol/adrol. End of cycle developed mild gyno and had to run Nolva for 8 weeks to fixed it. I will check Napsgear thank you!
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Yeah to be honest it’s a luxury item. Really isn’t necessary. I’ve seen 3 instances where some really needed it
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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welcome to the EVO family. we have tons of sources on here. napsgear, ugfreak, domestic supply. these are all my favorites @Pat7x
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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looking big and strong in your picture! i like this so far. keep up the good work its paying off @Pat7x
 
Thank you for all the kind words guys
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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Welcome into the community 💪
 
Pat7x said:
I’m on a test e cruise @250mg a week atm
Planning to bulk soon, got gears from PSL
Weight : 180~185 rn
Height : 5’5”
Age : 34
Training schedule
Mon - Chest/Shoulders
Tue - Back
Wed - Legs/Forearms/Abs
Thurs - Shoulders
Fri - Arms
Sat - Sun - Off, or light pump focus

My plan is to run Test E 600mg Deca 400mg for 20+ weeks and kickstart with Dbol 20mg AM 20mg PM for 5-6 weeks
My goal is to maximize size
Diet plan is
Protein 300G
Carbs 5-600G
Fat <120G
Daily supplements : fish oil, d3, b-complex, tudca/nac, magnesium, zinc
Planning to use Berberine and ALA during high carbs meal.

The attachment is current physique

Anyone know where can i get Cabergoline for USA domestic? I found it at domestic-supply for 185$ but i’m still on a hunt for a lower price.
I saw Yourmuscleshop.to got a good price but they have good and bad mixed reviews and i’m not sure about ordering with them.
Thank you for reading
Will have more update soon when i actually started the cycle.
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@Pat7x nice start to the log and welcome to the forum. We are glad to have you as part of the family.
 
Next week (September 22-28)
Transition to bulk
Increase test from 250mg a week to 500mg a week
Drop all orals.
Week of September 29
Add deca 400mg
Add dbol 25mg am 25mg pre workout for 5-6 weeks depends on how i feel.

Gonna take super enzymes to help digest on large meals with berberine and ALA on high carbs meal.
 
Pat7x said:
Next week (September 22-28)
Transition to bulk
Increase test from 250mg a week to 500mg a week
Drop all orals.
Week of September 29
Add deca 400mg
Add dbol 25mg am 25mg pre workout for 5-6 weeks depends on how i feel.

Gonna take super enzymes to help digest on large meals with berberine and ALA on high carbs meal.
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Good setup. Bumping test to 500mg will give you a solid base and dropping the orals now keeps liver stress down before you bring in dbol. Adding deca at 400mg with dbol split am and pre lifts will stack nicely for size and strength. Smart call adding enzymes, berberine, and ALA since the food push is just as important as the gear, that’ll keep digestion and bloods in check while you grow.
 
LevButlerov said:
Good setup. Bumping test to 500mg will give you a solid base and dropping the orals now keeps liver stress down before you bring in dbol. Adding deca at 400mg with dbol split am and pre lifts will stack nicely for size and strength. Smart call adding enzymes, berberine, and ALA since the food push is just as important as the gear, that’ll keep digestion and bloods in check while you grow.
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I’m glad i’m in the right direction 😉
 
@LevButlerov I usually pin in my Ventro Gluteal,
Do you think 2cc will fit Ventro? Or i need to move to my glute? I can’t do delt because oil always leak iut and no quad because it’s painful a day or two after.
 
Pat7x said:
@LevButlerov I usually pin in my Ventro Gluteal,
Do you think 2cc will fit Ventro? Or i need to move to my glute? I can’t do delt because oil always leak iut and no quad because it’s painful a day or two after.
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Yes ventro glute can hold 2cc without issue, it’s one of the safest and cleanest sites if you’re hitting the right spot. Rotate sides and you’ll be fine, most guys run 2–3cc there no problem. If delts leak and quads beat you up then just stick with ventro and glute rotation, that’s more than enough real estate to cover your pin schedule. :D
 
LevButlerov said:
Yes ventro glute can hold 2cc without issue, it’s one of the safest and cleanest sites if you’re hitting the right spot. Rotate sides and you’ll be fine, most guys run 2–3cc there no problem. If delts leak and quads beat you up then just stick with ventro and glute rotation, that’s more than enough real estate to cover your pin schedule. :D
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Perfect, thank you!
 
LevButlerov said:
EVO family support :D
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Bro, am I crazy?
When i was on a cut i was always hungry and fights with hunger everyday. Today my first transition drop clen anavar and winstol. Im full with breakfast and lunch. I had to force feed my dinner.

Breakfast i got 2 servings of Rice Chex with 2 servings of Carbmaster chocolate milk, 2 cans of tuna with light miracle whip with garlic powder and onions.

Lunch after i trained chest i got Jamaican curry goat with cabbage and rice and beans a big portion. Super enzymes +ALA+berberine

Dinner i got Kevin’s paleo meal korean bbq chicken with 2 cups of white rice and 24g of gochujang. ALA+berberine

Still got 156cal to eat to hit 2700cal and im full
 

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Bro, am I crazy?
When i was on a cut i was always hungry and fights with hunger everyday. Today my first transition drop clen anavar and winstol. Im full with breakfast and lunch. I had to force feed my dinner.

Breakfast i got 2 servings of Rice Chex with 2 servings of Carbmaster chocolate milk, 2 cans of tuna with light miracle whip with garlic powder and onions.

Lunch after i trained chest i got Jamaican curry goat with cabbage and rice and beans a big portion. Super enzymes +ALA+berberine

Dinner i got Kevin’s paleo meal korean bbq chicken with 2 cups of white rice and 24g of gochujang. ALA+berberine

Still got 156cal to eat to hit 2700cal and im full
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Not crazy at all, that’s just your body flipping from being on clen, anavar, winstrol to now running natural hunger signals again. Those orals and clen ramp metabolism and appetite swings, once you drop them food feels heavier and digestion slows a bit. Breakfast and lunch you packed in solid carbs and protein, then that curry goat meal is dense so no wonder dinner felt like force feeding. Ride it out, appetite usually balances after a week or so, and hitting 2700 cals while feeling full is a good spot to grow from. :D
You use a GLP-1 before? @Pat7x
 
LevButlerov said:
Not crazy at all, that’s just your body flipping from being on clen, anavar, winstrol to now running natural hunger signals again. Those orals and clen ramp metabolism and appetite swings, once you drop them food feels heavier and digestion slows a bit. Breakfast and lunch you packed in solid carbs and protein, then that curry goat meal is dense so no wonder dinner felt like force feeding. Ride it out, appetite usually balances after a week or so, and hitting 2700 cals while feeling full is a good spot to grow from. :D
You use a GLP-1 before? @Pat7x
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Thank you for the response brotha!

No, i never use GLP-1 before but after this off season cycle I will cut with Retatrutide + trt (150-200mg test e a week) and maybe some winny+var blend from PSL.
No more clen, i hate clen so much, it makes my jaw cramp when chewing food🤣
 
After i dig on my last bulk, my right nipple started to get irritated when i added 4ea of dbol a day. It’s 40mg on the lable but lab results from Euro Pharma is 12.5mg each, that makes it 50mg. I had mild gyno from last bulk and had to fixed with Nolva for 8 weeks to reversed it.
I will not run 50mg this cycle but i will do 3 pills a day(37.5mg) and I will do it 3 times a day, every 6-7 hours. I think this way will makes my blood level stable and don’t have a peak spike of e2.
@Pigsy @LevButlerov what do you guys think?
 
Pat7x said:
After i dig on my last bulk, my right nipple started to get irritated when i added 4ea of dbol a day. It’s 40mg on the lable but lab results from Euro Pharma is 12.5mg each, that makes it 50mg. I had mild gyno from last bulk and had to fixed with Nolva for 8 weeks to reversed it.
I will not run 50mg this cycle but i will do 3 pills a day(37.5mg) and I will do it 3 times a day, every 6-7 hours. I think this way will makes my blood level stable and don’t have a peak spike of e2.
@Pigsy @LevButlerov what do you guys think?
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Splitting the dbol into 3 doses is the smarter move, less chance of that big e2 spike hitting you like before. 37.5mg should still give you plenty of strength and fullness without pushing the gyno risk higher. Keep Nolva on hand just in case but if you’re spreading it evenly you’ll likely manage sides a lot better this run. :D @Pat7x though I would consider low dose tamoxifen 5mgs eod to be safe.
 
LevButlerov said:
Splitting the dbol into 3 doses is the smarter move, less chance of that big e2 spike hitting you like before. 37.5mg should still give you plenty of strength and fullness without pushing the gyno risk higher. Keep Nolva on hand just in case but if you’re spreading it evenly you’ll likely manage sides a lot better this run. :D @Pat7x though I would consider low dose tamoxifen 5mgs eod to be safe.
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Thank you, i got aromasin caber and nolva on hand
 
Pat7x said:
Thank you, i got aromasin caber and nolva on hand
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That's good, pics of the aromasin cabergoline and tamoxifen please :D @Pat7x we love pics in the EVO family!
 

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Right i saw you post genlabs before :D @Pat7x

how is your training diet going?
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Been good
This is my whole day eating today.
Gain .5” on arms already with just a week of 500mg test
Tomorrow will start adding deca and dbol
 

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Pat7x said:
Been good
This is my whole day eating today.
Gain .5” on arms already with just a week of 500mg test
Tomorrow will start adding deca and dbol
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Big food, feels high carbs? macros?
 
LevButlerov said:
Big food, feels high carbs? macros?
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Protein 220-250g a day
Carbs 250-300g a day
Fat 70-80g a day
Feels good, not super hungry all the time. Sometimes have to force eat
 
Pat7x said:
Protein 220-250g a day
Carbs 250-300g a day
Fat 70-80g a day
Feels good, not super hungry all the time. Sometimes have to force eat
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Good level, try to really pump up some protein to 300 :D @Pat7x
 
Pat7x said:
@LevButlerov I usually pin in my Ventro Gluteal,
Do you think 2cc will fit Ventro? Or i need to move to my glute? I can’t do delt because oil always leak iut and no quad because it’s painful a day or two after.
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Bro this a great log. And welcome to the EVO family! I'll be following.

And just about the above... when I was on my 16-week blast I'd put 4CC into each ventro glute no problem.

And I'd get that protein up my man... you're thick AF and at around 200lbs you can easily handle 300+ grams.
 
HarleyGuy said:
Bro this a great log. And welcome to the EVO family! I'll be following.

And just about the above... when I was on my 16-week blast I'd put 4CC into each ventro glute no problem.

And I'd get that protein up my man... you're thick AF and at around 200lbs you can easily handle 300+ grams.
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I'm waiting for @Pat7x to update the EVO family more :D
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Once i hit 200lbs i will try that 😁
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Almost the end of week 2 update!
190lbs now
Bench press 225lbs went up from 5 reps last week to 7 reps this week. Other compund and isolation movements feels lighter gotta add more weight this week.
Attachment are today’s post shoulders day and average macros for the last 7 days
 

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Pat7x said:
Almost the end of week 2 update!
190lbs now
Bench press 225lbs went up from 5 reps last week to 7 reps this week. Other compund and isolation movements feels lighter gotta add more weight this week.
Attachment are today’s post shoulders day and average macros for the last 7 days
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Looking big in the pic there :D @Pat7x
clean progress hitting 190 lbs and adding 2 reps at 225 on bench in just a week shows strength and recovery are lined up well. Keep progressive jumps small, around 5–10 lbs per lift, to lock in clean form while that momentum lasts.

Post your shoulder day breakdowd in your log. It’ll help fine tune load progression and nutrient timing as the next few weeks pick up pace.
 
Pat7x said:
Almost the end of week 2 update!
190lbs now
Bench press 225lbs went up from 5 reps last week to 7 reps this week. Other compund and isolation movements feels lighter gotta add more weight this week.
Attachment are today’s post shoulders day and average macros for the last 7 days
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Progress baby!
 
Pat7x said:
Almost the end of week 2 update!
190lbs now
Bench press 225lbs went up from 5 reps last week to 7 reps this week. Other compund and isolation movements feels lighter gotta add more weight this week.
Attachment are today’s post shoulders day and average macros for the last 7 days
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@Pat7x This is looking really good. Benching 225 and going up on the repetitions is a good sign. It means you're getting stronger and your body is reacting.
 
Pat7x said:
Almost the end of week 2 update!
190lbs now
Bench press 225lbs went up from 5 reps last week to 7 reps this week. Other compund and isolation movements feels lighter gotta add more weight this week.
Attachment are today’s post shoulders day and average macros for the last 7 days
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bros 190lbs is not bad. Seem like you're getting stronger little by little. @Pat7x That's good. You mix in isolation and compound lifting.
 
Pat7x said:
Almost the end of week 2 update!
190lbs now
Bench press 225lbs went up from 5 reps last week to 7 reps this week. Other compund and isolation movements feels lighter gotta add more weight this week.
Attachment are today’s post shoulders day and average macros for the last 7 days
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@Pat7x 190lbs is a good weight for you. your strength has miles to improve though. at 190 you should be benching 350 easy
 
Ulter said:
@Pat7x 190lbs is a good weight for you. your strength has miles to improve though. at 190 you should be benching 350 easy
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That’s what im thinking and beating on myself everyday. I can’t even do 315 yet after working out for 3 years, i feel like a failure
 
Pat7x said:
That’s what im thinking and beating on myself everyday. I can’t even do 315 yet after working out for 3 years, i feel like a failure
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I'm sort of just messing with you, man. I didn't think you'd take it so personally. Not everybody has strong lifts and not everybody was born to power lift. Keep that in mind.
 
Ulter said:
I'm sort of just messing with you, man. I didn't think you'd take it so personally. Not everybody has strong lifts and not everybody was born to power lift. Keep that in mind.
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Bro, it’s not about you at all. It’s about me. My wife said I stare in the mirror and talk shit to my self every hour and I never be satisfied. I really want to get that 315 bench for real
 
Pat7x said:
Bro, it’s not about you at all. It’s about me. My wife said I stare in the mirror and talk shit to my self every hour and I never be satisfied. I really want to get that 315 bench for real
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you will get there lol.
 
Pat7x said:
Bro, it’s not about you at all. It’s about me. My wife said I stare in the mirror and talk shit to my self every hour and I never be satisfied. I really want to get that 315 bench for real
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with our help. with your dedication.. and yes with the help of steroids you are going to hit 3 plates one day. just be patient and keep working @Pat7x
 
Pat7x said:
Bro, it’s not about you at all. It’s about me. My wife said I stare in the mirror and talk shit to my self every hour and I never be satisfied. I really want to get that 315 bench for real
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You're 34 years old man you've got some years left in the tank to get to 315lbs for a few reps easy.
 
I feel like I started lifting so late (32yo)
 
Pat7x said:
Almost the end of week 2 update!
190lbs now
Bench press 225lbs went up from 5 reps last week to 7 reps this week. Other compund and isolation movements feels lighter gotta add more weight this week.
Attachment are today’s post shoulders day and average macros for the last 7 days
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@Pat7x looks like you’re making some great progression man. You’re gonna be strong as hell.
 
Just a little update on the end of week 2
Week 1001st Deca Dbol
29/9/25Test250 deca200
2/10/25Test250 deca200
Week 1012nd Deca Dbol
6/10/25Test250 deca200
9/10/25Test250 deca200

Dbol Fall 2025
Week 1
29/9/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
30/9/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
1/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
2/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
3/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
4/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
5/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
Week 2
6/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
7/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
8/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
9/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
10/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
11/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
12/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
 
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Just a little update on the end of week 2
Week 1001st Deca Dbol
29/9/25Test250 deca200
2/10/25Test250 deca200
Week 1012nd Deca Dbol
6/10/25Test250 deca200
9/10/25Test250 deca200

Dbol Fall 2025
Week 1
29/9/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
30/9/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
1/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
2/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
3/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
4/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
5/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
Week 2
6/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
7/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
8/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
9/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
10/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
11/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
12/10/25 Mgs
8:00/14:00/20:00 12.5/12.5/12.5
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Good update, you’re dosing the Dbol right at 37.5 mg split across the day for steady blood levels. Test and Deca both at 500 mg total per week balanced, just make sure AI use is consistent to manage e2 as Dbol aromatizes fast. how much aromasin or dostinex you using?

Strength should start climbing hard from here into week 3. Keep protein high and carbs around training to fuel the growth phase.
 
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I feel like I started lifting so late (32yo)
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Bro trust me when I tell you it doesn't look it at all. At worst it looks like you used to life heavy and now you're back at it again just hardening up old muscle memory. You have muscle maturity that looks old and waiting to grow again. Plus if you're done having kids (or even if you're not) 32 is a much better age to start gear than 22 in my opinion. @Pat7x
 
LevButlerov said:
Good update, you’re dosing the Dbol right at 37.5 mg split across the day for steady blood levels. Test and Deca both at 500 mg total per week balanced, just make sure AI use is consistent to manage e2 as Dbol aromatizes fast. how much aromasin or dostinex you using?

Strength should start climbing hard from here into week 3. Keep protein high and carbs around training to fuel the growth phase.
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I don’t use ai and caber yet, don’t have symptoms. But I will do bloodwork soon to confirm, maybe around week 5-6
 
Pat7x said:
I don’t use ai and caber yet, don’t have symptoms. But I will do bloodwork soon to confirm, maybe around week 5-6
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lets get bloods sooner :D
 
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When should i get it? I wanted deca to fully saturated first
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That's why we wanna get bloods sooner. Once you're fully saturated the prolactin and e2 may have been too high for too long and you'll be playing catchup with your AI's or caber.
 
Alright guys I will do bloodwork on week 4 then, I got my doctor’s order in already
I feel like i did so good lately on my macros (attached photo)
On my workday, I have been doing the same 3 meal everyday at work. 2 bagels with cream cheese and 2 scoops of Dymatize whey isolate at 6:30, 8oz 98% lean turkey with taco seasoning and 2 cups of white rice at 9-10:00 and another meal at 12:00 or 13:00 then go workout at 15:30. Post workout I go get whatever i feel like around the gym but must be low fat high carbs and protein (I like Qdoba) and then go to Aldi to get another 1lb of 98% lean ground turkey to cook for tomorrow and repeat the cycle of eating. I feel like I’m doing my own meal for meal 1-3 and take out on meal 4 is sustainable and I can enjoy my life.
 

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Alright guys I will do bloodwork on week 4 then, I got my doctor’s order in already
I feel like i did so good lately on my macros (attached photo)
On my workday, I have been doing the same 3 meal everyday at work. 2 bagels with cream cheese and 2 scoops of Dymatize whey isolate at 6:30, 8oz 98% lean turkey with taco seasoning and 2 cups of white rice at 9-10:00 and another meal at 12:00 or 13:00 then go workout at 15:30. Post workout I go get whatever i feel like around the gym but must be low fat high carbs and protein (I like Qdoba) and then go to Aldi to get another 1lb of 98% lean ground turkey to cook for tomorrow and repeat the cycle of eating. I feel like I’m doing my own meal for meal 1-3 and take out on meal 4 is sustainable and I can enjoy my life.
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Good structure. The 3 meal rotation at work hits balance, and the post workout takeout rule of low fat high carb keeps glycogen topped without messing digestion. Well planned! though you do need more fiber add psyllium husk, can you? @Pat7x

The 1 lb turkey prep at night keeps you on track for the next day, so stay with this setup through week 4 bloodwork. Once labs are in, post them up.
 
****Update*****
Bench press 225lbs from 7 reps last week to 8.75 almost 9 this week!!! Almost got rep 9 up to the top pin but failed on the second pin, i fought hard tho
 
Pat7x said:
****Update*****
Bench press 225lbs from 7 reps last week to 8.75 almost 9 this week!!! Almost got rep 9 up to the top pin but failed on the second pin, i fought hard tho
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Amazing! clean bench, just make sure you warm up :D @Pat7x
 
LevButlerov said:
Amazing! clean bench, just make sure you warm up :D @Pat7x
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Yep
Empty bar x12 stretching
135 x10
135 x10
Then 225 x8.75
225 x8
My weight dropped to 188.7 btw, maybe time to increase food intake
 
Physique update on week 3 @ 188~189lbs during arms day
 

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Yep
Empty bar x12 stretching
135 x10
135 x10
Then 225 x8.75
225 x8
My weight dropped to 188.7 btw, maybe time to increase food intake
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easy and good day :D
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Physique update on week 3 @ 188~189lbs during arms day
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wow really thick, big arms and huge shoulders in the pic! @Pat7x
 
Pat7x said:
Physique update on week 3 @ 188~189lbs during arms day
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@Pat7x nice job. And I would have never believed that you're only 188lbs. You look much bigger than that.
 
@ROIDDERS @stevesmi @Ulter @ceo @Mobster @2Thick @LevButlerov
Thank you all for your honest comments, I really hope I can bench 315 by the end of the year. Unfortunately, my left wrist on the pinky side have been bugging me for months, that’s why I have to wear straps only on the left wrist.
 
i’m expecting weight and size drop after next week (Dbol runs out around week 4.5) and i will have to wait for deca to jump in, gonna be some dips for sure
 
Pat7x said:
@ROIDDERS @stevesmi @Ulter @ceo @Mobster @2Thick @LevButlerov
Thank you all for your honest comments, I really hope I can bench 315 by the end of the year. Unfortunately, my left wrist on the pinky side have been bugging me for months, that’s why I have to wear straps only on the left wrist.
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easy 315 bench is coming fast :D but give the wrist time to heal for now, you on BPC? @Pat7x
recently @BeMe had an issue with his wrist in his log you can check
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
 
Pat7x said:
i’m expecting weight and size drop after next week (Dbol runs out around week 4.5) and i will have to wait for deca to jump in, gonna be some dips for sure
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That happens dont worry most drops from dbol are water :P
 
Pat7x said:
@ROIDDERS @stevesmi @Ulter @ceo @Mobster @2Thick @LevButlerov
Thank you all for your honest comments, I really hope I can bench 315 by the end of the year. Unfortunately, my left wrist on the pinky side have been bugging me for months, that’s why I have to wear straps only on the left wrist.
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I got the exact same problem bro. Same wrist, exact same pain. I'm about 6 or 7 weeks in. Been strapping up as well to keep not safe. No forearm training. Cuffs for my shoulder work.

Happy to say tho it's feeling a bit better these past few days now. I've been running bpc-157 and tb500 for about 4 weeks now and I think it's finally healing.
 
My training today, I just started to write in a book between sets now. I’m off today, so I went to gym twice🤣
 

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My training today, I just started to write in a book between sets now. I’m off today, so I went to gym twice🤣
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Nice old school! Don't see note pads much anymore.

Looks like you're writing with your bad wrist?? Lol joking joking haha
 
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Nice old school! Don't see note pads much anymore.

Looks like you're writing with your bad wrist?? Lol joking joking haha
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My hands are shakinggggg lmao
 
Pat7x said:
My hands are shakinggggg lmao
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Haha glad you can take a joke bro.

It's always tough fukin around with someone you don't but I figure we're all gym bros so we get it haha. This is a safe space for us lol.

How's the wrist doin? Fair amount for pressing and pushing there
 
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