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You certainly love your cheese on top of your steak. If you can find some good quality bread, put it in between that and you'll have yourself a nice steak sandwich. That sounds really good. @HarleyGuy
Bro. Is that some big time steak right there. @HarleyGuy Is it cooked bloody inside or do you cook it more medium well? You make me super hungry.
@HarleyGuy This is a beautiful touchdown right here. These are high quality supplements. They work incredibly well.
I'm hoping so because I know my bloods are probably horrible right now. I've got citrus bergamot on the way too to add to all these and have added some new ones too but the N2Guard is my secret weapon.
@LevButlerov What do you think of the new additions?
I put all my supp tablets into my skull stein and I can swallow a lot of pills so I down them like chugging a beer and then use gatorade zero and swallow them all at once LOL.
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 2 tbsp (1 tbsp before each meal)
H2Guard (7 caps with Meal # 2 or is empty stomach better @LevButlerov ) **NEW**
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Krill Oil 5000mg
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
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You are going to love that N2guard it's a really good product. Make sure you let us know how you feel on it. I always feel great after a few days on. @HarleyGuy
Will do bro. Today is day two. 7 caps twelve hours after orals.
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I've heard of that cream being rubbed on balls btw LOL!Thank you so much for that and I shouldn't have doubted you.
Actually that's an excellent idea! I'll talk to her about it in the morning and after she's agreed I'll take a bath in that shit myself. Is there any anectodal evidence if I rub it on my junk it will cause site enhancement?. Maybe a straight DHT cream, tempting.
I already know she won't wanna do ED T-shots so I'm thinking 35mg once a week of my Rx TestE. Can't believe I didn't think of this before like why am I fuckin around with creams. LOL
dont do it @HarleyGuy but how about we try to talk to her about 2x/week pins with test? you can control it easier and no mistakes
with women you dont want to overshoot on test, it's not like guys with 400 vs 600 test a bit more touchy.
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Those are a good addition
but dont assume bloods are bad, be positive @HarleyGuy responding
Can you get R-ALA or just ALA?
thats perfect add it with some propolis
n2guard, dont take it on empty stomach it will give you too much acidity imo
With your diet I actually think positive of your bloods
you are intense but thats a good thing my brother.Thanks for the podcast, good listen and amazing feedback from you!
No I can get R-ALA that was an oversight on my part about 1/4 through the bottle I realized I was taking the lesser bioavailable form of it. Next bottle with be R-ALA
Royal Jelly with some proplis it is then! Ordered! Assuming 500mg ED (one capsule) is good or should I do two? I usually double what the bottle says.
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Ok good to know. You know how I am though just took all my supps and I took 3 caps, so 3grams, turns out each cap is 1000mg. What is the best dose of this. I picture 5g being a good dose for some reason. And the bee propolis I'm thinking 2g? Each cap is 500mg.
Will check reply in morning! Thanks
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You're looking at 2-3 grams of royal jelly max and 1-2 grams of propolis is enough
Yeah, you will find that N2guard has a lot of the products that you were using previously for support.
Oh don't tell me that now I wanna get 2 more right now. Tomorrow is payday I'm on it LOL
Not me buying it out first lol. Hoarder battle begins
back in the day they were really bad at keeping it in stock. it really sucked but haven't had issues since with the new owner
Very nice. You should start feeling some changes within a few days.
For some reason I just saw this now. I’m gonna tell her starting next week we’ll do 2xWeek 15-17mg.I've heard of that cream being rubbed on balls btw LOL!
but how about we try to talk to her about 2x/week pins with test? you can control it easier and no mistakes
with women you dont want to overshoot on test, it's not like guys with 400 vs 600 test a bit more touchy.
I don’t think I have any 1” slin pins I’ll have to check.
More importantly. Rubbing test cream on your balls IS actually a thing? Should I start researching this? LOL
Oh and @toddthelineman you’re the man - I’m loving this proviron it’s got me all horned up.
Have fun!proviron it’s got me all horned up.
@HarleyGuy yes sir. The best in the business
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It's much easier and much safer for her, guessing with cream is like tossing a coin.
lol for sure it's a thing I've seen it asked before
@HarleyGuy but I dont suggest it.
@HarleyGuy best of the best!
I just came across this in my log on page 36 from back in September. I crack myself up with the shit I say.
I'm blasting again in January the moment it hits midnight who am I kidding? Nothing like the 2g blast but something good though.
Log Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
Protein:483g today! 
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
- Still juggling being a MOD
with keeping log up to date but don't anyone worry I'm still crushing it in the gym - Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
483g today! Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
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Might get on your lady. Get a little more than you bargained for hahaha. Might be all good between grown ups, but like, that wouldn’t be a measured dose for her.
Day in the life of a proper beastLog Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
Big numbers and killed it on the deads brother! Haha its funny you say about the heavy metal, i listen to alot of heavy music but there are some sets i want to flirt with the devil and i have certain songs i put on for those ones too
I’m starting pinning her next week in fact in consultation with Lev @LevButlerov. Haha way ahead of ya LOL
You’re gonna be living your best life lol. Busy man hahaha
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He's going to keep you busy
after week 2 of pinning add 1mg of tadalafil e3d for her as well. @HarleyGuy
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Log Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
You're grinding it hard
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
you're the best mod thank for all the help in the EVO family our brother @HarleyGuy PUMPED!Protein:
Strong pull day. 4 plates plus 15 on deads and 130 pin rows hit hard.
Shrugs with 100s finish solid, but careful with shrugs not to get neck issues.
again killing it on the protein! TRUE protein KING! level
lol proviron the horny pill
good to see you adding n2guard in there with hcgenerate perfect add
and bee products we discussed before they perfect
Split it 2.5 IU fasted AM and 2.5 IU pre bed. That keeps fat loss active while managing water retention and insulin sensitivity.
There is a way to do pre cardio etc but I don't like the potential blood sugar drops with it imo
Thank you as always for the kind words and amazing advice in your log analyses. I will heed that advice and I’m gonna find a better trap exercise too.You're grinding it hard
PUMPED!
Strong pull day. 4 plates plus 15 on deads and 130 pin rows hit hard.
Shrugs with 100s finish solid, but careful with shrugs not to get neck issues.
again killing it on the protein! TRUE protein KING! level
lol proviron the horny pill
good to see you adding n2guard in there with hcgenerate perfect add
and bee products we discussed before they perfect
Split it 2.5 IU fasted AM and 2.5 IU pre bed. That keeps fat loss active while managing water retention and insulin sensitivity.
There is a way to do pre cardio etc but I don't like the potential blood sugar drops with it imo
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Ok that's interesting I've always went heavy and tried to hold the squeeze at the top of the concentric. I'll lower the dumbbell weight and focus more on mind-muscle connection!Shrugs are fine, just slow with them and not a lot of weight
@HarleyGuy I've never been a fan of using growth hormone too high unless you're competing. Just too many side effects. Especially things like carpal tunnel which are definitely counterproductive long term.Log Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
I was getting that bad from the Chinese blue tops I had. Hands were like dead fish in the morning. Worthless. Then it started to actually hurt. The Rx stuff didn’t do that because it was too expensive to go that high
Blue tops are awesome if you’re trying no fap. Good luck! Hahaha
Omg both you and @stevesmi just pointed out the type of shit I wanna know about 5iu. 2.5iu 2xED seems reasonable instead of a bolus 5iu but if I’m going for its fat loss with cardio maybe 2iu 2xED. I’ve been at 3-4iu since June but all at night and no problems so far.I was getting that bad from the Chinese blue tops I had. Hands were like dead fish in the morning. Worthless. Then it started to actually hurt. The Rx stuff didn’t do that because it was too expensive to go that high
Blue tops are awesome if you’re trying no fap. Good luck! Hahaha
What is with the Chinese giving carpal and the Rx not. Mallitol?
You might get away with it! I’ll bet that your extremely low carb diet will keep the water down significantly. You might have zero problems. Some people take a lot of gh. I don’t see how lol. I would need robot hands.
I’ve only heard speculation. But you definitely can get carpal tunnel and everything else from Rx Gh. I have. It just takes a lot and it’s like $8-10/iu so you’re seriously spending money at that point. Serostim is maybe a whole other level. I never found a dose of it that made me hold water.
For some reason that’s the only GH I’ve never heard anyone have anything bad to say about it and in fact all I’ve seen is rave reviews at all dosages. We should get a breakdown of the fillers that are in with 191aa of serostim because it must be something it doesn’t contain vs what it does.
Well I heard it’s because there’s no preservatives in the water. It’s intended to be used one vial a day! 18iu! It’s just way too expensive for regular use man. The smallest you can really dose it is 1.8iu. So if you can get a kit for like $900 it’s still like $500/month at that point. Supply is hit or miss.
Holy shit if I win the lottery then yes but otherwise screw that LOL
Yeah I think I’ll explore some ugl gh. Times are changing. Other people are getting good results.
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Depends on your goals, if you want to step on stage sure go heavy, but in your situation more lifestyle I would be careful with the neck and shoulders in general to stay in the game longer
@HarleyGuy at this age you can carry something wrong and mess up your neck and thats it, much less with heavy shrugs
you can see @Trenhead3cc is going thru it now, I feel bad for him i know the pain
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2025-and-beyond-cycle-log.103014/post-1860709
Fucked my shoulder and neck Sunday arvo , carrying something awkward, found a new sports chiro / rehab clinic. He stayed open after hours for me so I could get seen.
Said I look like Jack reacher -
Then guessed my favorite exercise during the appointment and even came out and asked if I do gear. Which I told him I do sports TRT. But yeah from the injury happened to find a good physician going back next week and feel already a heap better!
i told one of my clients recently you don't need much but he didn't listen and went with 3iu's from one of our sources on here. he came back to me a month later and was like "why do my fingers hurt so much?" i was like there you go. this hgh is strong shit. 20 years ago you would need to run 6iu's to get anything. now even 3iu's is strongI was getting that bad from the Chinese blue tops I had. Hands were like dead fish in the morning. Worthless. Then it started to actually hurt. The Rx stuff didn’t do that because it was too expensive to go that high
Blue tops are awesome if you’re trying no fap. Good luck! Hahaha
those meals look pretty damn good. those are some good looking eggs. looks like you are eating good! @HarleyGuyLog Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
those callouses are no joke @HarleyGuy you can always tell if someone works out by looking at them. they are well worth itLog Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
Excellent advise I'm going to switch it up and try a @Pat7x supersetting style lighter weight regime. It's time I switch up my lifting regiment anyway for a bit.Depends on your goals, if you want to step on stage sure go heavy, but in your situation more lifestyle I would be careful with the neck and shoulders in general to stay in the game longer
at this age you can carry something wrong and mess up your neck and thats it, much less with heavy shrugs
you can see @Trenhead3cc is going thru it now, I feel bad for him i know the pain
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2025-and-beyond-cycle-log.103014/post-1860709
@HarleyGuy bros that a nice ass pic. you got some cool scenery too over there. it look like Minnesota in the movies
Definitely can't hurt to change some things up. I think supersets are a good idea. There's a lot of benefits to doing them. @HarleyGuy
Bro you need an Asian wooden one!
OOOOOooooooooooooo do tell? Like this one? I'll keep it under the floor mat where my billy club is for road rage.Bro you need an Asian wooden one!
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My N2Guard has 250mg TUDCA. In researching TUDCA this I came across this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8674405/
I'd like to add 1g TUDCA to my supplement regime and being at 210lbs it appears this is well tolerated and the higher doses are what moves the needle on your HDL. I realize it's moreso a liver supplement but I'm interested in the HDL/LDL benefits moreso.
Do you recommend something like this and do you have any issues with 1g-1.25g TUDCA ed?
My N2Guard has 250mg TUDCA. In researching TUDCA this I came across this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8674405/
I'd like to add 1g TUDCA to my supplement regime and being at 210lbs it appears this is well tolerated and the higher doses are what moves the needle on your HDL. I realize it's moreso a liver supplement but I'm interested in the HDL/LDL benefits moreso.
Do you recommend something like this and do you have any issues with 1g-1.25g TUDCA ed?
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Exactly, that one is the best
Yeah I lifted up my draw slides back of the Ute that are loaded and tried to peak underneath looking for something small. They aren’t bolted down coz work vehicle. But yeah holding up under load I tried to bend down and peak a look. Very stupid! That night standing infront of mirror would see one trap sitting higher than the other. But good news is my recovery has been 10 x what I thought it would be because I been running @Raptor Labs GLOW70. 50mg GHK-cu , 10mg Bpc157 and 10mg TB500 and seeing a specialist chiro and dry needling. 1 week today and tomorrow I think I might be back into it. Honestly thought my cycle was fucked and I was done.Depends on your goals, if you want to step on stage sure go heavy, but in your situation more lifestyle I would be careful with the neck and shoulders in general to stay in the game longer
at this age you can carry something wrong and mess up your neck and thats it, much less with heavy shrugs
you can see @Trenhead3cc is going thru it now, I feel bad for him i know the pain
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2025-and-beyond-cycle-log.103014/post-1860709
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I use the wall LOL
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You don't need more TUDCA in the mix, whats in n2guard is enough. Too much tudca is not a good thing either
Your hdl/ldl wont move with tudca really, what you're looking for is fish oil and psyllium which you're doing. @HarleyGuy
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Just make sure you warm up
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Happy to hear about your recovery
but its an example for all of us to be careful with traps! @Trenhead3cc
That's hilarious bro because if you go to page 1 of my log that is literally my story of how I came on EVO. I tore my tendons armwrestling during cycle and used GLOW to get them back up and running in 6 weeks and said fuck it I'm not quitting my cycle and started a log here back in late July. The rest is history, now I'm all in for EVO!
Ok good to know... I'll spend the money on more N2Guard LOL. I take 15g psyllium 2xED and 3g krill oil ED as well. (as seen in my supp list)You don't need more TUDCA in the mix, whats in n2guard is enough. Too much tudca is not a good thing either
Your hdl/ldl wont move with tudca really, what you're looking for is fish oil and psyllium which you're doing. @HarleyGuy
Log Update today: Saturday 25Oct2025
Protein:586g today!
Training today (@LevButlerov this one's for you from 30Sep!)
Legs
Squats:
bodyweight warmup form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 (175lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and 35 (195lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and a 35 (195) x 5
Sending it at this point for Lev (see above)
1 set with 3 plates (310lbs) x 8 **had a spotter - had to pause after the 6th and 7th for a bit - felt that give out point at half way point but made it**
1 set with 2 plates x 8
Seated quad extension:
3 sets each to failure
Prone hamstring curl:
4 sets each to failure (set pin to be able to do 10,9,9,7 slow and burny)
Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - stretch when at bottom and squeeze at the top and hold
Core
Crunches
3 sets each to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Obliques
3 sets each side to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Cardio
EVO Podcast episode on EQ on the treadmill at an 'almost jog'.
Diet:
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P (I now take psyllium husk/collagen/creatine/taurine separate before Meal#2 **see pics**)
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (standard - costco XL eggs):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see pics**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Pre Workout carbs due to leg day:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1kg boneless rib steak with 250g parmesan cheese **See pics**):
1kg rib steaks
2910 cals
237 P
218 F
0 C
250g parmesan cheese on top
1144 cals
78 P
88 F
8 C
Meal #2 Total:
4054 cals
315 P
306 F
8 C
Total macros today 25Oct2025 (Saturday):
6407 cals
586g Protein
397g Fat
139g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu (2.5iu morning fasted and 2.5iu bedtime fasted)
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps :
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Collagen Peptides 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal) **15g before meal # 2 in same separate shake now - see pic**
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps after meal # 2 stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals which are in morning) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g **separate shake now - see pic**
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg
Niacin 500mg
Royal Jelly 2000mg
Bee Propolis 1000mg
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg
Baby Aspirin 81mg
Questions:
- What BF% would you say I'm really at? I don't believe my Renpho at 17% I think I'm higher. Semi relaxed morning front shot - no pump. Still 5'9" and 207lbs this morning.
- Upped my MOD game and will be posting log updates e3d now if I can because what really is down time for? Fuck relaxing.
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect (Had to repeat this one bullet point)
- 207lbs this morning @ 16-17% BF (roughly - I don't trust my Renpho scale) with progress pic below repping EVO merch.
- Still stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Sticking to a semi Heavy Duty training for a bit but will stich to higher volume lower weight and supersets come winter here
- Over ate today I think stoked for leg day and Lev's challenge - wanted to get the most from it but didn't need 3 rib steaks (2 woulda sufficed lol)
Protein:
586g today!Training today (@LevButlerov this one's for you from 30Sep!)
Legs
Squats:
bodyweight warmup form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 (175lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and 35 (195lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and a 35 (195) x 5
Sending it at this point for Lev (see above)
1 set with 3 plates (310lbs) x 8 **had a spotter - had to pause after the 6th and 7th for a bit - felt that give out point at half way point but made it**
1 set with 2 plates x 8
Seated quad extension:
3 sets each to failure
Prone hamstring curl:
4 sets each to failure (set pin to be able to do 10,9,9,7 slow and burny)
Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - stretch when at bottom and squeeze at the top and hold
Core
Crunches
3 sets each to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Obliques
3 sets each side to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Cardio
EVO Podcast episode on EQ on the treadmill at an 'almost jog'.
Diet:
- 2MAD + Pre/Post Workout carbs depending on workout
- Been having the same Meal#1 lately for convenience and speed knowing macros/calories are in check
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (standard - costco XL eggs):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see pics**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Pre Workout carbs due to leg day:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1kg boneless rib steak with 250g parmesan cheese **See pics**):
- **See pic of my special thaw method using warm water and a 5lb dumbbell**
1kg rib steaks
2910 cals
237 P
218 F
0 C
250g parmesan cheese on top
1144 cals
78 P
88 F
8 C
Meal #2 Total:
4054 cals
315 P
306 F
8 C
Total macros today 25Oct2025 (Saturday):
6407 cals
586g Protein
397g Fat
139g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu (2.5iu morning fasted and 2.5iu bedtime fasted)
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps :
- Some bottles of my supps are below **see pics**
- My supps are more than my gear (shouldn't they be?)
- The pills/capsules I chug with a gatorade zero below **see pics**
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Collagen Peptides 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal) **15g before meal # 2 in same separate shake now - see pic**
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps after meal # 2 stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals which are in morning) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g **separate shake now - see pic**
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg
Niacin 500mg
Royal Jelly 2000mg
Bee Propolis 1000mg
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg
Baby Aspirin 81mg
Questions:
- What BF% would you say I'm really at? I don't believe my Renpho at 17% I think I'm higher. Semi relaxed morning front shot - no pump. Still 5'9" and 207lbs this morning.
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@HarleyGuy log is on point bro! Love seeing the addition of N2guard and HCGenerate!Log Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
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Your mod game is upped big time EVO brother
@HarleyGuy EVO family love back at you, love and respect
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
I'll comment below on the pic.
That's a good stack and effective for you especially you're off cycle TRT, keeps the balls plump.
your training is strong!
no such thing as overate steak
PROTEIN KING WIN!Protein:
You have good memory thats a while back!
dont do obliques no need, work more on planks and crunches
that's a good one I want to see more eq discussion going too
you're true carnivore here
really loading it up.how do you feel on the digestion front? you're emptying every day?
Good off cycle stack!
perfect and I saw the pics on point.
Bodyfat I think you're closer to 15% if you ask me. You're holding some water from hgh and nutrobal mk677 that's what's throwing off the look a bit, but if I had to guess closer to 15% not 17.
Haha you got me there... I can't believe I said thatno such thing as overate steak
I try and watch how you work and I notice you somehow have everyone's details on point when you reply even from a while back so I make notes with dates and jot down certain things members say and then can compare it to their posts a month later for example.
Roger that!
Bro! For the first time in my life I take a shit every day, and at roughly the same time! Usually an hour or two after meal # 2 like clockwork.
Damn I wasn't expecting that. I'll take that thank you sir!
I wonder if @vanlife_gymbum would have room for all these supps? Actually I KNOW he'd MAKE room! @Allupfromhere have you thought about getting those two supps from N2BM? Actually come to think of it are either of you @BeMe or @toddthelineman trying or have any experience with N2Guard or HCGenerate? I already notice my nuts are fuller from the HCGenerate and just started N2Guard. If you check my log update from today I'm stacking both now.
Brooo your like the epitome of that shredded bad boy biker look lol the one girls dads are saying be weary of but they just cant help themselvesLog Update today: Saturday 25Oct2025
- Upped my MOD game and will be posting log updates e3d now if I can because what really is down time for? Fuck relaxing.
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- 207lbs this morning @ 16-17% BF (roughly - I don't trust my Renpho scale) with progress pic below repping EVO merch.
- Still stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Sticking to a semi Heavy Duty training for a bit but will stich to higher volume lower weight and supersets come winter here
- Over ate today I think stoked for leg day and Lev's challenge - wanted to get the most from it but didn't need 3 rib steaks (2 woulda sufficed lol)
Protein:
Training today (@LevButlerov this one's for you from 30Sep!)
Legs
Squats:
bodyweight warmup form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 (175lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and 35 (195lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and a 35 (195) x 5
Sending it at this point for Lev (see above)
1 set with 3 plates (310lbs) x 8 **had a spotter - had to pause after the 6th and 7th for a bit - felt that give out point at half way point but made it**
1 set with 2 plates x 8
Seated quad extension:
3 sets each to failure
Prone hamstring curl:
4 sets each to failure (set pin to be able to do 10,9,9,7 slow and burny)
Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - stretch when at bottom and squeeze at the top and hold
Core
Crunches
3 sets each to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Obliques
3 sets each side to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Cardio
EVO Podcast episode on EQ on the treadmill at an 'almost jog'.
Diet:
- 2MAD + Pre/Post Workout carbs depending on workout
- Been having the same Meal#1 lately for convenience and speed knowing macros/calories are in check
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P(I now take psyllium husk/collagen/creatine/taurine separate before Meal#2 **see pics**)
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (standard - costco XL eggs):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see pics**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Pre Workout carbs due to leg day:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1kg boneless rib steak with 250g parmesan cheese **See pics**):
- **See pic of my special thaw method using warm water and a 5lb dumbbell**
1kg rib steaks
2910 cals
237 P
218 F
0 C
250g parmesan cheese on top
1144 cals
78 P
88 F
8 C
Meal #2 Total:
4054 cals
315 P
306 F
8 C
Total macros today 25Oct2025 (Saturday):
6407 cals
586g Protein
397g Fat
139g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu (2.5iu morning fasted and 2.5iu bedtime fasted)
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps :
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
- Some bottles of my supps are below **see pics**
- My supps are more than my gear (shouldn't they be?)
- The pills/capsules I chug with a gatorade zero below **see pics**
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Collagen Peptides 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal) **15g before meal # 2 in same separate shake now - see pic**
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps after meal # 2 stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals which are in morning) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g **separate shake now - see pic**
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg
Niacin 500mg
Royal Jelly 2000mg
Bee Propolis 1000mg
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg
Baby Aspirin 81mg
Questions:
- What BF% would you say I'm really at? I don't believe my Renpho at 17% I think I'm higher. Semi relaxed morning front shot - no pump. Still 5'9" and 207lbs this morning.
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And for real brother i got bloated just from reading 6400cals in 2 meals
your a pure animal!I looked into it very early on brother as i wish we could have better access to it over here but the cost of postage and exchange rate really kills the feasibility unfortunately. Need shop to stock it over here
Ya and Dad saying be weary because even his wife is eyeballing me too and he knows it. Every chick loves borderline psycho and badass looking dude who actually likes to cuddle when no one is looking.Brooo your like the epitome of that shredded bad boy biker look lol the one girls dads are saying be weary of but they just cant help themselves
EXAMPLE FROM TODAY IN FACT:
It's Sunday so HarleyGirl's ex drops the kids off at 6pm after his access for the weekend. So, HarleyGirls fatass 6'7" Homer Simpson estrogen bodied narcissistic ex-husband (who is a lawyer) walked his too-tall pear-shaped body and fat ass toward the front door to drop off the kids after his weekend with them and I stepped out onto the front porch in a tank and jeans after chest/delt day, EVO ball cap on and said "the court order in Section 8(d) says "return the children" it doesn't say stroll up here like we're all buddies and you're gonna what ring the doorbell and say hi? Those kids have two legs they can get out of your fancy 'look at me' Escalade and walk into the house themselves so get your fuckin ass off my laneway and back in your car... you're a taxi for your visits with them, an ATM for support for HarleyGirl and you were literally just a sperm donor that's all you are so back the fuck up off the pavement and get in your vehicle". (They did IVF he literally was just a sperm donor). I used full on cop "this is an order and you're going to do it" tone too. He turned around and walked back to his car and I 1000-yard stared his ass until he drove away. I'm hoping "Taxi, ATM, and sperm donor" are repeated in his head like a mantra that won't go away for a while.
Then I walk back in the house and HarleyGirl says "fuck you're hot" hahahaha. He had traumatized her so much she didn't have the bandwidth or energy to fight him anymore and he used to just come in the house when he dropped off the kids before I met her; he'd sit on the couch, bug the dog, eat her fuckin food and take shits in her bathroom. He's never done that before today since I told him not to exit his vehicle when dropping off the kids but like any narcissist he's gonna test the waters. Go ahead and test I'll make sure you get an F on that test you fat fuck.
The kids can't stand him. He put her through absolute hell during the divorce case and made it drag out 8 fucking years and wouldn't pay support and filed a motion to not pay support til the case was over with so he had her on wellfare (in the US that's like TANF or Public Assistance) with 3 young kids living in a 1-bedroom box then when she finally won the case she got a big settlement but the damage was done she had a lot of debt and interest to pay and that was his mission all along just to stick it to her for "leaving him". And the whole time it was him that was caught serial cheating on her and she left him when they were like 3 years and 1&1 (second kids were twins).
Then we put on Season 5 of Vikings and cuddled on the couch and I massaged cream on her feet like nothing happened. She loves who I am and love she is, it's a perfect union.
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Steak is KING!
never too much lol You have some real good memories seriously, I forget things after 4-5 hours on pc.
thats perfect, means your digestion is on track!
that's the truth
I believe @vanlife_gymbum has n2guard coming already, he can update here
and @toddthelineman had amazing blood work post n2guardhttps://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-bulking-journey-to-200lbs.105770/post-1853471
Hahahaha this is fucking wicked ey! Nothing like the perfect match bro, im the same with my wife 15 years without a single drama. We just bounce of eachothers energy and both read the play super well. I keep her safe, loved and remind her how beautiful she is to be everyday. She keeps me grounded calm and always feel like im desired.Ya and Dad saying be weary because even his wife is eyeballing me too and he knows it. Every chick loves borderline psycho and badass looking dude who actually likes to cuddle when no one is looking.
EXAMPLE FROM TODAY IN FACT:
It's Sunday so HarleyGirl's ex drops the kids off at 6pm after his access for the weekend. So, HarleyGirls fatass 6'7" Homer Simpson estrogen bodied narcissistic ex-husband (who is a lawyer) walked his too-tall pear-shaped body and fat ass toward the front door to drop off the kids after his weekend with them and I stepped out onto the front porch in a tank and jeans after chest/delt day, EVO ball cap on and said "the court order in Section 8(d) says "return the children" it doesn't say stroll up here like we're all buddies and you're gonna what ring the doorbell and say hi? Those kids have two legs they can get out of your fancy 'look at me' Escalade and walk into the house themselves so get your fuckin ass off my laneway and back in your car... you're a taxi for your visits with them, an ATM for support for HarleyGirl and you were literally just a sperm donor that's all you are so back the fuck up off the pavement and get in your vehicle". (They did IVF he literally was just a sperm donor). I used full on cop "this is an order and you're going to do it" tone too. He turned around and walked back to his car and I 1000-yard stared his ass until he drove away. I'm hoping "Taxi, ATM, and sperm donor" are repeated in his head like a mantra that won't go away for a while.
Then I walk back in the house and HarleyGirl says "fuck you're hot" hahahaha. He had traumatized her so much she didn't have the bandwidth or energy to fight him anymore and he used to just come in the house when he dropped off the kids before I met her; he'd sit on the couch, bug the dog, eat her fuckin food and take shits in her bathroom. He's never done that before today since I told him not to exit his vehicle when dropping off the kids but like any narcissist he's gonna test the waters. Go ahead and test I'll make sure you get an F on that test you fat fuck.
The kids can't stand him. He put her through absolute hell during the divorce case and made it drag out 8 fucking years and wouldn't pay support and filed a motion to not pay support til the case was over with so he had her on wellfare (in the US that's like TANF or Public Assistance) with 3 young kids living in a 1-bedroom box then when she finally won the case she got a big settlement but the damage was done she had a lot of debt and interest to pay and that was his mission all along just to stick it to her for "leaving him". And the whole time it was him that was caught serial cheating on her and she left him when they were like 3 years and 1&1 (second kids were twins).
Then we put on Season 5 of Vikings and cuddled on the couch and I massaged cream on her feet like nothing happened. She loves who I am and love she is, it's a perfect union.
You just maddogged the mfer.. is what we call that is Australia and i fucking love it
That's an epic collection you have! I was talking with some Aussie guys last night about my recent findings on the organ support supplement front but it's still no n2guard, however looks like my problems with that are about to be solved and I'll be able to use atcual proper n2guard
Damn, that's quite the transformation! Impressive progress from 270 to maintaining around 200-205. Also, arm wrestling injuries are no joke, heal up!
What a crazy fkin mess.Ya and Dad saying be weary because even his wife is eyeballing me too and he knows it. Every chick loves borderline psycho and badass looking dude who actually likes to cuddle when no one is looking.
EXAMPLE FROM TODAY IN FACT:
It's Sunday so HarleyGirl's ex drops the kids off at 6pm after his access for the weekend. So, HarleyGirls fatass 6'7" Homer Simpson estrogen bodied narcissistic ex-husband (who is a lawyer) walked his too-tall pear-shaped body and fat ass toward the front door to drop off the kids after his weekend with them and I stepped out onto the front porch in a tank and jeans after chest/delt day, EVO ball cap on and said "the court order in Section 8(d) says "return the children" it doesn't say stroll up here like we're all buddies and you're gonna what ring the doorbell and say hi? Those kids have two legs they can get out of your fancy 'look at me' Escalade and walk into the house themselves so get your fuckin ass off my laneway and back in your car... you're a taxi for your visits with them, an ATM for support for HarleyGirl and you were literally just a sperm donor that's all you are so back the fuck up off the pavement and get in your vehicle". (They did IVF he literally was just a sperm donor). I used full on cop "this is an order and you're going to do it" tone too. He turned around and walked back to his car and I 1000-yard stared his ass until he drove away. I'm hoping "Taxi, ATM, and sperm donor" are repeated in his head like a mantra that won't go away for a while.
Then I walk back in the house and HarleyGirl says "fuck you're hot" hahahaha. He had traumatized her so much she didn't have the bandwidth or energy to fight him anymore and he used to just come in the house when he dropped off the kids before I met her; he'd sit on the couch, bug the dog, eat her fuckin food and take shits in her bathroom. He's never done that before today since I told him not to exit his vehicle when dropping off the kids but like any narcissist he's gonna test the waters. Go ahead and test I'll make sure you get an F on that test you fat fuck.
The kids can't stand him. He put her through absolute hell during the divorce case and made it drag out 8 fucking years and wouldn't pay support and filed a motion to not pay support til the case was over with so he had her on wellfare (in the US that's like TANF or Public Assistance) with 3 young kids living in a 1-bedroom box then when she finally won the case she got a big settlement but the damage was done she had a lot of debt and interest to pay and that was his mission all along just to stick it to her for "leaving him". And the whole time it was him that was caught serial cheating on her and she left him when they were like 3 years and 1&1 (second kids were twins).
Then we put on Season 5 of Vikings and cuddled on the couch and I massaged cream on her feet like nothing happened. She loves who I am and love she is, it's a perfect union.
In other news I also make sure to hit the rib eye steak pre leg day
Log Update today: Saturday 25Oct2025
- Upped my MOD game and will be posting log updates e3d now if I can because what really is down time for? Fuck relaxing.
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- 207lbs this morning @ 16-17% BF (roughly - I don't trust my Renpho scale) with progress pic below repping EVO merch.
- Still stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Sticking to a semi Heavy Duty training for a bit but will stich to higher volume lower weight and supersets come winter here
- Over ate today I think stoked for leg day and Lev's challenge - wanted to get the most from it but didn't need 3 rib steaks (2 woulda sufficed lol)
Protein:
Training today (@LevButlerov this one's for you from 30Sep!)
Legs
Squats:
bodyweight warmup form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 (175lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and 35 (195lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and a 35 (195) x 5
Sending it at this point for Lev (see above)
1 set with 3 plates (310lbs) x 8 **had a spotter - had to pause after the 6th and 7th for a bit - felt that give out point at half way point but made it**
1 set with 2 plates x 8
Seated quad extension:
3 sets each to failure
Prone hamstring curl:
4 sets each to failure (set pin to be able to do 10,9,9,7 slow and burny)
Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - stretch when at bottom and squeeze at the top and hold
Core
Crunches
3 sets each to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Obliques
3 sets each side to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Cardio
EVO Podcast episode on EQ on the treadmill at an 'almost jog'.
Diet:
- 2MAD + Pre/Post Workout carbs depending on workout
- Been having the same Meal#1 lately for convenience and speed knowing macros/calories are in check
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P(I now take psyllium husk/collagen/creatine/taurine separate before Meal#2 **see pics**)
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (standard - costco XL eggs):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see pics**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Pre Workout carbs due to leg day:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1kg boneless rib steak with 250g parmesan cheese **See pics**):
- **See pic of my special thaw method using warm water and a 5lb dumbbell**
1kg rib steaks
2910 cals
237 P
218 F
0 C
250g parmesan cheese on top
1144 cals
78 P
88 F
8 C
Meal #2 Total:
4054 cals
315 P
306 F
8 C
Total macros today 25Oct2025 (Saturday):
6407 cals
586g Protein
397g Fat
139g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu (2.5iu morning fasted and 2.5iu bedtime fasted)
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps :
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
- Some bottles of my supps are below **see pics**
- My supps are more than my gear (shouldn't they be?)
- The pills/capsules I chug with a gatorade zero below **see pics**
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Collagen Peptides 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal) **15g before meal # 2 in same separate shake now - see pic**
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps after meal # 2 stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals which are in morning) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g **separate shake now - see pic**
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg
Niacin 500mg
Royal Jelly 2000mg
Bee Propolis 1000mg
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg
Baby Aspirin 81mg
Questions:
- What BF% would you say I'm really at? I don't believe my Renpho at 17% I think I'm higher. Semi relaxed morning front shot - no pump. Still 5'9" and 207lbs this morning.
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Awesome log update bro! I didn't get notified though, it's starting to get annoying and I'm missing a lot.
That's also an awesome belt buckle, I want one
You seem to have the same thing going on as me with skin on your lower belly - I've been looking into a few things to try, lots of people say sunbathing but that's not a good pastime directly under the cfc hole in the ozone layer, but a bunch of early podcast episodes and some recent ones too talk about isong fasting to solve this.
I didn't quite get how it worked but he did say the scientific name for the process but basically it's like a cell regeneration process that is kicked off in a fasted state, your body starts repurposing stuff and goes for low hanging fruit which includes unnecessary skin.
Made enough sense when I listened to it that I'll try it, they said 5-6 days fasting (with water) is better than masteron...
Now I feel a lot better about eating 3 of them and 1kg of them if I'm taking after and modeling EVO's true beast!
Yes I call it my "ex fat guy" skin... it's been there since I lost the weight coming down from a carbed up edema mess of what was 270 lbs of pure estrogenic aromatizable fat all over my body.
You lost like 60 pounds in a matter of months, right?
@HarleyGuy yeah that is the thing with dating someone with kids. dealing with the jackass she had kids with prior. you are a scary looking guy too so that helpsYa and Dad saying be weary because even his wife is eyeballing me too and he knows it. Every chick loves borderline psycho and badass looking dude who actually likes to cuddle when no one is looking.
EXAMPLE FROM TODAY IN FACT:
It's Sunday so HarleyGirl's ex drops the kids off at 6pm after his access for the weekend. So, HarleyGirls fatass 6'7" Homer Simpson estrogen bodied narcissistic ex-husband (who is a lawyer) walked his too-tall pear-shaped body and fat ass toward the front door to drop off the kids after his weekend with them and I stepped out onto the front porch in a tank and jeans after chest/delt day, EVO ball cap on and said "the court order in Section 8(d) says "return the children" it doesn't say stroll up here like we're all buddies and you're gonna what ring the doorbell and say hi? Those kids have two legs they can get out of your fancy 'look at me' Escalade and walk into the house themselves so get your fuckin ass off my laneway and back in your car... you're a taxi for your visits with them, an ATM for support for HarleyGirl and you were literally just a sperm donor that's all you are so back the fuck up off the pavement and get in your vehicle". (They did IVF he literally was just a sperm donor). I used full on cop "this is an order and you're going to do it" tone too. He turned around and walked back to his car and I 1000-yard stared his ass until he drove away. I'm hoping "Taxi, ATM, and sperm donor" are repeated in his head like a mantra that won't go away for a while.
Then I walk back in the house and HarleyGirl says "fuck you're hot" hahahaha. He had traumatized her so much she didn't have the bandwidth or energy to fight him anymore and he used to just come in the house when he dropped off the kids before I met her; he'd sit on the couch, bug the dog, eat her fuckin food and take shits in her bathroom. He's never done that before today since I told him not to exit his vehicle when dropping off the kids but like any narcissist he's gonna test the waters. Go ahead and test I'll make sure you get an F on that test you fat fuck.
The kids can't stand him. He put her through absolute hell during the divorce case and made it drag out 8 fucking years and wouldn't pay support and filed a motion to not pay support til the case was over with so he had her on wellfare (in the US that's like TANF or Public Assistance) with 3 young kids living in a 1-bedroom box then when she finally won the case she got a big settlement but the damage was done she had a lot of debt and interest to pay and that was his mission all along just to stick it to her for "leaving him". And the whole time it was him that was caught serial cheating on her and she left him when they were like 3 years and 1&1 (second kids were twins).
Then we put on Season 5 of Vikings and cuddled on the couch and I massaged cream on her feet like nothing happened. She loves who I am and love she is, it's a perfect union.
nice sporting that evo hat. looks good on you! nice flat stomach which is a great thing @HarleyGuyLog Update today: Saturday 25Oct2025
- Upped my MOD game and will be posting log updates e3d now if I can because what really is down time for? Fuck relaxing.
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- 207lbs this morning @ 16-17% BF (roughly - I don't trust my Renpho scale) with progress pic below repping EVO merch.
- Still stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Sticking to a semi Heavy Duty training for a bit but will stich to higher volume lower weight and supersets come winter here
- Over ate today I think stoked for leg day and Lev's challenge - wanted to get the most from it but didn't need 3 rib steaks (2 woulda sufficed lol)
Protein:
Training today (@LevButlerov this one's for you from 30Sep!)
Legs
Squats:
bodyweight warmup form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 (175lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and 35 (195lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and a 35 (195) x 5
Sending it at this point for Lev (see above)
1 set with 3 plates (310lbs) x 8 **had a spotter - had to pause after the 6th and 7th for a bit - felt that give out point at half way point but made it**
1 set with 2 plates x 8
Seated quad extension:
3 sets each to failure
Prone hamstring curl:
4 sets each to failure (set pin to be able to do 10,9,9,7 slow and burny)
Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - stretch when at bottom and squeeze at the top and hold
Core
Crunches
3 sets each to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Obliques
3 sets each side to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Cardio
EVO Podcast episode on EQ on the treadmill at an 'almost jog'.
Diet:
- 2MAD + Pre/Post Workout carbs depending on workout
- Been having the same Meal#1 lately for convenience and speed knowing macros/calories are in check
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P(I now take psyllium husk/collagen/creatine/taurine separate before Meal#2 **see pics**)
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (standard - costco XL eggs):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see pics**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Pre Workout carbs due to leg day:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1kg boneless rib steak with 250g parmesan cheese **See pics**):
- **See pic of my special thaw method using warm water and a 5lb dumbbell**
1kg rib steaks
2910 cals
237 P
218 F
0 C
250g parmesan cheese on top
1144 cals
78 P
88 F
8 C
Meal #2 Total:
4054 cals
315 P
306 F
8 C
Total macros today 25Oct2025 (Saturday):
6407 cals
586g Protein
397g Fat
139g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu (2.5iu morning fasted and 2.5iu bedtime fasted)
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps :
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
- Some bottles of my supps are below **see pics**
- My supps are more than my gear (shouldn't they be?)
- The pills/capsules I chug with a gatorade zero below **see pics**
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Collagen Peptides 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal) **15g before meal # 2 in same separate shake now - see pic**
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps after meal # 2 stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals which are in morning) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g **separate shake now - see pic**
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg
Niacin 500mg
Royal Jelly 2000mg
Bee Propolis 1000mg
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg
Baby Aspirin 81mg
Questions:
- What BF% would you say I'm really at? I don't believe my Renpho at 17% I think I'm higher. Semi relaxed morning front shot - no pump. Still 5'9" and 207lbs this morning.
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You mean scary like, he used to kill bad guys for a living? Or… after that when he’d beat people to a pulp… by accident? Or the list of other things? lol
@HarleyGuy is a “nope” all day. You don’t even have to know the backstory. It’s not a good bet at all hahaha. That fat lawyer is pretty stupid thinking he can push any kind of boundaries like that. He should just go find someone else to torture
It sucks that the kids have to even deal with him honestly. I grew up like that. It’s stupid and it doesn’t work, even the Bible says don’t split the kids in half. Eventually the kids are not going to want to bounce around.
when i was a teacher i could tell the 2-3 kids in the class who were destined to end up being bad people. and don't you know it in 95% of situations when i look up what happened to them or we have class reunions they end up being in prison, dead or drug addicts. me and another teacher visited one of them in prison 4 hours away just to check in on them, dude was doing years for attempted murder. there is this built up anger inside that never goes away. the link was simple. crappy, abusive or absent dads. the cycle repeats itself in a lot of cases. breaking the cycle is possible but its hard.
That was me. I was very troubled and problematic kid, but I was pretty smart. Drove them nuts. I’ve actually had teachers reach out to me on Facebook. One recently. My first grade teacher. Said I was unforgettable and she’d been watching my ski shows. I don’t think she knows about my darker times but I’m sure she wondered.
That’s amazing that you did than man.
@HarleyGuy congrats on the mod! Great work with the food and the training. Definitely tearing those callouses up!Log Update today: Thursday 24Oct2025
- Still juggling being a MOD
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- Maintaining 205-208lbs with BF% down a bit - water came off from blast and looking leaner
- Went beast mode and did deadlifts with back today - soaked shirt at the end - longer workout than usual so no cardio today
- Now stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Have gone completely to semi Heavy Duty with my training and love the strength aspect and sheer grit required
- Upping HGH to 5iu for no particular reason except to see if lipolysis increases (I have a boatload of wholesale chinese stuff I wanna get through and it's tested ok from last year)
Protein:
Training today:
Glutes/Hamstring/Back:
Deadlift
warmup for form and bloodflow
1 set with 2 plates x 12
2 sets with 3 plates x 8
1 set with 4 plates x 5
1 set with 4 plates+15 x 3 (had to play heavy metal for this one and get angry - getting stronger!)
Back:
Seated D-grip cable row (**see pics of what these did to my prideful cable row callouses I LOVE IT!** @Mobster you'll appreciate this pic below LOL)
warmup for form and bloodflow
2 sets with pin at 110 x 10
2 sets with pin 120's x 9 (long rest before heavy)
1 set with pin at 130 x 10
1 set with pin at 130 x 8 (might start to use wraps at or above 130)
Bent over rows
no warmup
1 set with 80's x 10
1 set with 110's x 8
1 set with 120's x 5
1 set with 70's to failure
Traps:
Dumbbell shrugs on incline bench - chest on upright portion of bench:
warmup form and bloodflow
2 sets with 70's x15
1 set with 90's x 10
1 set with 100's x 8
1 set with 100's x 7
1 set with 60's to eccentric failure
**hold contraction at top of rep**
**I think I don't have the same amount of androgen receptors most males do in their traps - traps don't respond even on high gear dosages like most guys' traps do - usually that's the telltale sign of gear usage**
Core
Seated ab crunch machine with half rack resistance
3 sets to failure
Crunches
4 sets to failure holding a 30lb dumbbell on my chest
Calves:
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - the usual
Diet:
2MAD + Post Workout carbs
Still quasi-carnivore with Karbolyn post-workout. Maintaining protein above 400g/day with red meat as usual, pressed cottage cheese, and egg whites/eggs etc. Caloric intake isn't ridiculous anymore due to not being on blast.
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (**see standard pic of my eggs**):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see standard pic**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Post Workout carbs:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1lb lean ground beef with 250g smoked meat with two Premier Protein drinks)**See pics**:
1lb lean ground beef
621 cals
97 P
23 F
0 C
250g smoked meat
500 cals
55 P
35 F
0 C
Two premier protein drinks
320 cals
60 P
5 F
10 C
Meal #2 Total:
1441 cals
212 P
63 F
10 C
Total macros today 23Oct2025 (Thursday):
3794 cals
483g Protein
154g Fat
141g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu @ night fasted
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps:
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g with protein shake
Collagen Peptides 20g in protein shake
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal)
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps before bed stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g in protein shake
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg **NEW**
Niacin 500mg **NEW**
Royal Jelly 2000mg **NEW**
Bee Propolis 1000mg **NEW** **TOUCHDOWN PIC BELOW**
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg **NEW**
Baby Aspirin 81mg **NEW**
Questions:
- The age old question... what is the general consensus on the best way to take 5iu or higher of HGH for lipolysis. I've heard so many arguments both ways. Want to hear from the big Daddy's @LevButlerov
teachers remember a handful of kids forever. the super bad kids or the super amazing kids.
@BeMe i'm sure was one of those amazing kids. that dude is one of the smartest MOFO's i've interacted with on here. i can tell he has genius intelligence.
btw from talking to you i actually think you are a good dude. so whatever happened before, you learned from it and became who you are today. i think there is good in everyone. nobody is born a bad person. its just that people do bad things sometimes
Can confirm. It never goes away
I think I did it. Not by far perfect but my kids are much better adjusted than I was
I blocked out so much of my childhood that it fucks me up to be around my family. They tell all these stories and I’m like “I don’t remember that, that not how I remember it, that didn’t happen”. Very jarring. I can’t handle it and I don’t. But I don’t really remember being super bad, I just would lash out and I didn’t want to participate much. I was mostly checked out in elementary school. To the point that I was sent to the nurse because they thought I was on drugs. Teacher was snapping in my face and I couldn’t even see it.
Yeah he’s sharp. Smart kids are a pain in the ass though. I bet he was one of those
yeah man brutal for sure. you had some hard knocks you had to overcome
bros dayum that a big meal day. 10 big eggs @HarleyGuy that no joke at all with that proteinLog Update today: Saturday 25Oct2025
- Upped my MOD game and will be posting log updates e3d now if I can because what really is down time for? Fuck relaxing.
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- 207lbs this morning @ 16-17% BF (roughly - I don't trust my Renpho scale) with progress pic below repping EVO merch.
- Still stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Sticking to a semi Heavy Duty training for a bit but will stich to higher volume lower weight and supersets come winter here
- Over ate today I think stoked for leg day and Lev's challenge - wanted to get the most from it but didn't need 3 rib steaks (2 woulda sufficed lol)
Protein:
Training today (@LevButlerov this one's for you from 30Sep!)
Legs
Squats:
bodyweight warmup form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 (175lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and 35 (195lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and a 35 (195) x 5
Sending it at this point for Lev (see above)
1 set with 3 plates (310lbs) x 8 **had a spotter - had to pause after the 6th and 7th for a bit - felt that give out point at half way point but made it**
1 set with 2 plates x 8
Seated quad extension:
3 sets each to failure
Prone hamstring curl:
4 sets each to failure (set pin to be able to do 10,9,9,7 slow and burny)
Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - stretch when at bottom and squeeze at the top and hold
Core
Crunches
3 sets each to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Obliques
3 sets each side to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Cardio
EVO Podcast episode on EQ on the treadmill at an 'almost jog'.
Diet:
- 2MAD + Pre/Post Workout carbs depending on workout
- Been having the same Meal#1 lately for convenience and speed knowing macros/calories are in check
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P(I now take psyllium husk/collagen/creatine/taurine separate before Meal#2 **see pics**)
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (standard - costco XL eggs):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see pics**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Pre Workout carbs due to leg day:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1kg boneless rib steak with 250g parmesan cheese **See pics**):
- **See pic of my special thaw method using warm water and a 5lb dumbbell**
1kg rib steaks
2910 cals
237 P
218 F
0 C
250g parmesan cheese on top
1144 cals
78 P
88 F
8 C
Meal #2 Total:
4054 cals
315 P
306 F
8 C
Total macros today 25Oct2025 (Saturday):
6407 cals
586g Protein
397g Fat
139g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu (2.5iu morning fasted and 2.5iu bedtime fasted)
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps :
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
- Some bottles of my supps are below **see pics**
- My supps are more than my gear (shouldn't they be?)
- The pills/capsules I chug with a gatorade zero below **see pics**
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Collagen Peptides 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal) **15g before meal # 2 in same separate shake now - see pic**
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps after meal # 2 stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals which are in morning) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g **separate shake now - see pic**
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg
Niacin 500mg
Royal Jelly 2000mg
Bee Propolis 1000mg
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg
Baby Aspirin 81mg
Questions:
- What BF% would you say I'm really at? I don't believe my Renpho at 17% I think I'm higher. Semi relaxed morning front shot - no pump. Still 5'9" and 207lbs this morning.
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@HarleyGuy you certainly like to throw that cheese on your steak. Looks really good. And you cooked it to perfection. Maybe a little too raw for me.Log Update today: Saturday 25Oct2025
- Upped my MOD game and will be posting log updates e3d now if I can because what really is down time for? Fuck relaxing.
- Loving being a mod - thanks EVO for this amazing opportunity! Super mad love and respect
- 207lbs this morning @ 16-17% BF (roughly - I don't trust my Renpho scale) with progress pic below repping EVO merch.
- Still stacking N2Guard with HCGenerate (7 caps/day and 5 caps/day respectively). I'm just gonna send it and run these two forever and consider it a monthly expense.
- Sticking to a semi Heavy Duty training for a bit but will stich to higher volume lower weight and supersets come winter here
- Over ate today I think stoked for leg day and Lev's challenge - wanted to get the most from it but didn't need 3 rib steaks (2 woulda sufficed lol)
Protein:
Training today (@LevButlerov this one's for you from 30Sep!)
Legs
Squats:
bodyweight warmup form and bloodflow
1 set with 1 plate and a 25 (175lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and 35 (195lbs) x 10
1 set with 1 plate and a 35 (195) x 5
Sending it at this point for Lev (see above)
1 set with 3 plates (310lbs) x 8 **had a spotter - had to pause after the 6th and 7th for a bit - felt that give out point at half way point but made it**
1 set with 2 plates x 8
Seated quad extension:
3 sets each to failure
Prone hamstring curl:
4 sets each to failure (set pin to be able to do 10,9,9,7 slow and burny)
Calves
Standing calf raise machine
4 sets to failure with pin set near the bottom at its heaviest - stretch when at bottom and squeeze at the top and hold
Core
Crunches
3 sets each to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Obliques
3 sets each side to failure with 20lb dumbbell
Cardio
EVO Podcast episode on EQ on the treadmill at an 'almost jog'.
Diet:
- 2MAD + Pre/Post Workout carbs depending on workout
- Been having the same Meal#1 lately for convenience and speed knowing macros/calories are in check
Meal # 1 (Protein shake + 10 whole eggs with 500g pressed cottage cheese)**See pics**:
Protein shake (upon waking)
Whey 3-scoops = 450 cals 75g P 9g C 9g F
Protein milk 320 cals 60g P 12g C 6g F
Collagen Peptide Protein 1 scoop same size as the whey 68 cals 17g P(I now take psyllium husk/collagen/creatine/taurine separate before Meal#2 **see pics**)
Creatine 20g
1 cup blueberries
2 tbsp cinnamon (reduced cinnamon getting sick of it overpowering)
vanilla extract
838 cals
152 P
15g F
21g C
10 whole large eggs (standard - costco XL eggs):
715 cals
63 P
48 F
0 C
Cottage cheese 500g (**see pics**)
400 Cals
56g P
28g F
10g C
Meal #1 Total:
1953 cals
271 P
91 F
31 C
Pre Workout carbs due to leg day:
Karbolyn - 2 scoops
400 cals
0 P
0 F
100g C
Meal # 2 (1kg boneless rib steak with 250g parmesan cheese **See pics**):
- **See pic of my special thaw method using warm water and a 5lb dumbbell**
1kg rib steaks
2910 cals
237 P
218 F
0 C
250g parmesan cheese on top
1144 cals
78 P
88 F
8 C
Meal #2 Total:
4054 cals
315 P
306 F
8 C
Total macros today 25Oct2025 (Saturday):
6407 cals
586g Protein
397g Fat
139g Carbs
Peptides:
HGH 5iu (2.5iu morning fasted and 2.5iu bedtime fasted)
MK677 10mg right before bed
GEAR:
Off cycle - TRT+
150mg Rx TestE per week
25mg Proviron ED - this is like a horny pill!
Ancillaries:
None
Supps :
Digest Gold 2 caps before each meal
- Some bottles of my supps are below **see pics**
- My supps are more than my gear (shouldn't they be?)
- The pills/capsules I chug with a gatorade zero below **see pics**
NAC 2000mg (1000mg with each meal)
Biotin 10mg (10,000 mcg) x 2 = 20mg biotin
Berberine 1000mg (with every meal)
Milk Thistle 3 pills providing 450mg of silymarin
Mutant multi vitamin x 2 (one with meal# 1 and meal #2)
Creatine 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Collagen Peptides 20g **separate shake now - see pic**
Psyllium husk 30g (15g before each meal) **15g before meal # 2 in same separate shake now - see pic**
Ubiquinol 200mg
Organic Raw Apple Cider Vinegar with mother 4 tbsp (2 tbsp before each meal - whatever a 'swig' is)
N2Guard (7 caps after meal # 2 stacked with HCGenerate in morning - taking N2Guard 12 hours after orals which are in morning) **NEW**
HCGenerate (5 caps in morning with proviron)
Taurine 9g **separate shake now - see pic**
Biopiperine 10mg
Krill Oil 5000mg
ALA 1800mg
Niacin 500mg
Royal Jelly 2000mg
Bee Propolis 1000mg
Citrus Bergamot 2000mg
Baby Aspirin 81mg
Questions:
- What BF% would you say I'm really at? I don't believe my Renpho at 17% I think I'm higher. Semi relaxed morning front shot - no pump. Still 5'9" and 207lbs this morning.
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That does look pretty epic. I'm pretty sure those plastic containers wouldn't be legal, or I'd hope not anyway, but I've seen these plastic sealed cardboard containers pop up here now, I don't know where they come from and something was off about them so I bailed on them but was tempting at $6 USD for 20. Trays are also usually three dozen not 20 so probably imported. Despite having a giant label they didn't put much on it, another red flag.
If that's a walk in fridge then those eggs must be really fucked. You don't refrigerate eggs normally, that's why they're awesome. I pushed it a few months ago and ate these eggs that were in my van for 5 or so months, they were sweet but that was when it was cold, probably was like a fridge.
Try fasting. That's really the best way to get rid of that loose skin. Or you can try certain creams or there's things like going to a dermatologist and seeing what they can do. @HarleyGuy
costco has low quality food. but people shop there to buy in bulk to save money. its sort of a scam if you ask me. those eggs aren't worth a damn they come from corporate farms that pollute
Agreed. Whenever we pass a farmers market I load up there even more than Costco. A farmers market for me is like a kid in a candy store!
yes as long as the farmers market is legit.
Out where I am (outside the capital city) they thankfully are. But yes, some can be bunk.
yeah some asshole once sold me a bunch of rotten peaches. he was offering samples of the best peaches, but the ones he was actually selling were trash. nice bait and switch. those places attract scammers sometime. i'm sure you would have went back there and kicked his ass
They wash the eggs here unless you buy it directly from a farmer. It washes the seal off and the shell is porous, so they will go bad. It’s super dumb, but assuming it was a good egg in the first place, I don’t think the quality is affected too badly. But they don’t last as long even in the fridge. Or so I heard. Eggs never go bad at my house because I eat like 100 a week
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