Growth Guys Retatrutide

[LevButlerov]

A lab test will tell me what’s in the vial. Again you can blood work but it won’t say your Reta or ozempic the purity ect.
I’m logging but apparently my Reta is fake in my log but real in others. So I just want to know what’s in the vial they’re selling.

Did you even read what I wrote? come on lol @Bigswaz open up your attention span I took time to write that, please actually read it.

 

[BeMe]

Couldn’t find anything about that, I do remember him posting about anavar as I was apart of the conversation. Not trying to stir sht up but I feel approved sources should have lab tests on hand to provide to us. If not then they also could be selling whatever they want in a bottle

You sure? I know for sure he posted a reta result and it was like 94 or 95. Maybe it was in someone's log then. Pretty sure it was his.

They have posted lots of results and can send you some if you ask. He sent me some Jano results for the Deca they just landed a few weeks ago

 

[LevButlerov]

You sure? I know for sure he posted a reta result and it was like 94 or 95. Maybe it was in someone's log then. Pretty sure it was his.

They have posted lots of results and can send you some if you ask. He sent me some Jano results for the Deca they just landed a few weeks ago

Don't bother with that @BeMe read please
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/growth-guys-retatrutide.106578/post-1895319

Lab tests are a 1 off snapshot and people keep pretending they are the holy grail when they tell you almost nothing about what a lab is really doing long term. @Bigswaz Any half decent scammer can cherry pick 1 clean vial send it off once slap the PDF everywhere and underdose or swap formulas the next 20 batches, and your “real lab test” is still floating around the forums making them look legit while guys are pinning garbage.

Logs are the only real proof because you see patterns over time across different users compounds and doses, with progress pics strength changes side effects and bloodwork all lining up or not. When 10 guys are logging the same source and you see consistent results on test EQ orals and peptides with matching labs from different countries over months that tells you infinitely more than one Janoshik style screenshot on a single vial that could be from any batch or any era.

You keep saying “logs are logs I want real lab tests” but you have it backwards. A single lab sheet without context is just marketing unless it is backed by a wall of logs, repeat testing on random vials actually pulled from orders and bloodwork that reflects what is on the label, and that only comes from a community like the EVO family where people put in the work and document everything. If you have to choose 1 thing, logs will always beat a 1 time lab PDF because logs are where underdosing, inconsistent batches and fake COAs actually get exposed.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

 

[BeMe]

Lab tests are a 1 off snapshot and people keep pretending they are the holy grail when they tell you almost nothing about what a lab is really doing long term. @Bigswaz Any half decent scammer can cherry pick 1 clean vial send it off once slap the PDF everywhere and underdose or swap formulas the next 20 batches, and your “real lab test” is still floating around the forums making them look legit while guys are pinning garbage.

Logs are the only real proof because you see patterns over time across different users compounds and doses, with progress pics strength changes side effects and bloodwork all lining up or not. When 10 guys are logging the same source and you see consistent results on test EQ orals and peptides with matching labs from different countries over months that tells you infinitely more than one Janoshik style screenshot on a single vial that could be from any batch or any era.

You keep saying “logs are logs I want real lab tests” but you have it backwards. A single lab sheet without context is just marketing unless it is backed by a wall of logs, repeat testing on random vials actually pulled from orders and bloodwork that reflects what is on the label, and that only comes from a community like the EVO family where people put in the work and document everything. If you have to choose 1 thing, logs will always beat a 1 time lab PDF because logs are where underdosing, inconsistent batches and fake COAs actually get exposed.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

This is actually a really good point. Proof is in the pudding type thing. Only complaints about Nordic Fusion relate to Titan and all that BS but Fusion made that right for everyone.

Growth guys has had mixed reviews so it's really hard to say they're trusted.

 

[Bigswaz]

This is actually a really good point. Proof is in the pudding type thing. Only complaints about Nordic Fusion relate to Titan and all that BS but Fusion made that right for everyone.

Growth guys has had mixed reviews so it's really hard to say they're trusted.

I’m not saying logs don’t prove results, I understand they do. Blood work stands out. What I’m saying is shouldn’t products be tested from all your approved sources to prove what they’re selling is indeed what they’re selling. Otherwise we could start saying they’re all like growth guys and could have anything in a vial. Purity and what’s in peptides is my concern. I have no doubts everything is legit from any approved source but without testing any peptides they get from their supplier could be abyrhing. And you can’t get blood work saying your taking Reta or ozempic

If I was reading correctly today wasn’t syn selling a garbage brand on their website and buddy bought it ans got bloods and showed it was garbage? Again approved source selling something that if they had gotten lab tests done would have proved it was garbage and never should have been an option for them to sell??

 

[BeMe]

I’m not saying logs don’t prove results, I understand they do. Blood work stands out. What I’m saying is shouldn’t products be tested from all your approved sources to prove what they’re selling is indeed what they’re selling. Otherwise we could start saying they’re all like growth guys and could have anything in a vial. Purity and what’s in peptides is my concern. I have no doubts everything is legit from any approved source but without testing any peptides they get from their supplier could be abyrhing. And you can’t get blood work saying your taking Reta or ozempic

If I was reading correctly today wasn’t syn selling a garbage brand on their website and buddy bought it ans got bloods and showed it was garbage? Again approved source selling something that if they had gotten lab tests done would have proved it was garbage and never should have been an option for them to sell??

Gotta side with the @Bigswaz on this one. Syn really needs to drop the Pharmatech cuz it's a problem. It hurts the Syn brand and by extension the trusted source program here on EVO. I think a discussion needs to be had about that one. @Bigswaz isn't wrong there

 

[Bigswaz]

Gotta side with the @Bigswaz on this one. Syn really needs to drop the Pharmatech cuz it's a problem. It hurts the Syn brand and by extension the trusted source program here on EVO. I think a discussion needs to be had about that one. @Bigswaz isn't wrong there

I do apologize if I do come on strong. But that literally was ignored and when growth guys get test results it’s shady and fake. But we have 1 approved source selling under dosed gear and nothing happens but gets slid under the rug and they continue to sell it on their website.

Prime example to why lab tests for all products being sold should be done for users buying. Not just for my safety but the sources safety and the HIGH STANDARDS we hold here at EVO. I’m a brother here just like all of you and my health and well being should be kept safe just like each and everyone of our members here in this community.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Your argument is garbage and you know it.
“Other gyms use it” means nothing.
“Friends like it” means nothing.
“Approved somewhere else” means nothing.
You’re deflecting because you have no proof, just the same empty lines a source rep uses when backed into a corner.

Fucking aye man! Nice list

It takes a certain type of scumbag to scam medicine in the first place, so conveniently for us they're all basically the same. They think selectively testing and selective-scamming is their own big-brain idea and nobody could every figure that out

Deflection is for children and pussies, giant pussies. Pathetic behaviour from bottom-feeding losers.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Lab tests are a 1 off snapshot and people keep pretending they are the holy grail when they tell you almost nothing about what a lab is really doing long term. @Bigswaz Any half decent scammer can cherry pick 1 clean vial send it off once slap the PDF everywhere and underdose or swap formulas the next 20 batches, and your “real lab test” is still floating around the forums making them look legit while guys are pinning garbage.

Logs are the only real proof because you see patterns over time across different users compounds and doses, with progress pics strength changes side effects and bloodwork all lining up or not. When 10 guys are logging the same source and you see consistent results on test EQ orals and peptides with matching labs from different countries over months that tells you infinitely more than one Janoshik style screenshot on a single vial that could be from any batch or any era.

You keep saying “logs are logs I want real lab tests” but you have it backwards. A single lab sheet without context is just marketing unless it is backed by a wall of logs, repeat testing on random vials actually pulled from orders and bloodwork that reflects what is on the label, and that only comes from a community like the EVO family where people put in the work and document everything. If you have to choose 1 thing, logs will always beat a 1 time lab PDF because logs are where underdosing, inconsistent batches and fake COAs actually get exposed.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

You have the patience of Job @LevButlerov I've come to realize in my time here that some members there's no getting through to.

I've tried to get each of these types of skeptic members to have any and all of their favourite sources come on EVO to start our approval process where these sources KNOW they will get 2000% more orders from all over the world, yet they don't. And I've explained why they don't but it falls on deaf ears.

If you want to get approved on EVO or EF bring it and go on probation as a vendor and try us on. Otherwise I consider any non-approved source bathtub gas station gear!!!

And one Jano test means shit, c'mon @Bigswaz you know better than that.

The most important thing to point out here is the onus is on the source, not on EVO to run around and check their gear for them and at our own expense as individuals. Let the source prove it on here through logs mainly but also through our probation process with testing at their expense!

If a bunch of guys are vouching "bestgearontheplanet.ca" I say they're shit, and scammers, until proven otherwise over time and here on EVO! Period.

 

[BCGains]

You sure? I know for sure he posted a reta result and it was like 94 or 95. Maybe it was in someone's log then. Pretty sure it was his.

They have posted lots of results and can send you some if you ask. He sent me some Jano results for the Deca they just landed a few weeks ago

94-95 is pretty shit when growth guys are 99.5+ for half the price want to see the tests? It’s all on janoshik and they are recent too!

 

[HarleyGuy]

I do apologize if I do come on strong. But that literally was ignored and when growth guys get test results it’s shady and fake. But we have 1 approved source selling under dosed gear and nothing happens but gets slid under the rug and they continue to sell it on their website.

Prime example to why lab tests for all products being sold should be done for users buying. Not just for my safety but the sources safety and the HIGH STANDARDS we hold here at EVO. I’m a brother here just like all of you and my health and well being should be kept safe just like each and everyone of our members here in this community.

I do apologize if I do come on strong.

You're not coming on strong you're just losing credibility each time you seem to gain some with what your showing us your standards are for assuming a source is 100% legit over years and years. BCGains comes on after a year in the dark and thinks this new website is the new holy grail for us Canadians? C'mon, I've been doing this 30+ years I don't think so. I used to order gear back when it was through the mail sending cash in carbon paper and you had no clue what you were getting. Now we have EVO and one Jano test and a bunch of dudes saying a source is good does NOT cut it.

Members don't come on strong, EVO and the tried, tested, and true history of our approved source is what comes on strong!

 

[Bigswaz]

You have the patience of Job @LevButlerov I've come to realize in my time here that some members there's no getting through to.

I've tried to get each of these types of skeptic members to have any and all of their favourite sources come on EVO to start our approval process where these sources KNOW they will get 2000% more orders from all over the world, yet they don't. And I've explained why they don't but it falls on deaf ears.

If you want to get approved on EVO or EF bring it and go on probation as a vendor and try us on. Otherwise I consider any non-approved source bathtub gas station gear!!!

And one Jano test means shit, c'mon @Bigswaz you know better than that.

The most important thing to point out here is the onus is on the source, not on EVO to run around and check their gear for them and at our own expense as individuals. Let the source prove it on here through logs mainly but also through our probation process with testing at their expense!

If a bunch of guys are vouching "bestgearontheplanet.ca" I say they're shit, and scammers, until proven otherwise over time and here on EVO! Period.

Well if they mean sht then keep supporting syn for selling garbage labs in their site and doing nothing about it while YOUR MEMBERS suffer the consequences of crashed test levels and major health issues because of it. A lab test would have shown true potency of the product and could have had your member avoid this all together. But again let’s ignore it and sweep it under the rug

 

[HarleyGuy]

94-95 is pretty shit when growth guys are 99.5+ for half the price want to see the tests? It’s all on janoshik and they are recent too!

Not approved on EVO = shit garbage bathtub gear. I'd never order from them.

Have I got your stirred up yet with your faith in a new website that has a few Jano tests?

Like I said tell these Growth Guys to come on here and become approved and they can reap the benefits, but they won't dare. Text the CEO right now and ask him to come on here to be a probationary vendor.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Well if they mean sht then keep supporting syn for selling garbage labs in their site and doing nothing about it while YOUR MEMBERS suffer the consequences of crashed test levels and major health issues because of it. A lab test would have shown true potency of the product and could have had your member avoid this all together. But again let’s ignore it and sweep it under the rug

That statement is approaching Billy Madison level of being awarded no points.

 

[Bigswaz]

That statement is approaching Billy Madison level of being awarded no points.

Sounds good is what it is m, guess we wait for blood work to show if products hurt us or serve us. I’ll leave it at that for tonite

 

[HarleyGuy]

Sounds good is what it is m, guess we wait for blood work to show if products hurt us or serve us. I’ll leave it at that for tonite

LOL you should hear yourself. You and BCGains need to go cuddle in the Growth Guys lounge, I'm sure their lab has an anti-room with a nice love seat.

 

[Bigswaz]

LOL you should hear yourself. You and BCGains need to go cuddle in the Growth Guys lounge, I'm sure their lab has an anti-room with a nice love seat.

Hey @BeMe agreed with me about syn literally selling garage gear on their site and theirs proof with your member posting blood work. Their approved source and yet your sitting here attacking me when you should be doing your job as a mod and investigating this issue.


PS: I still want to lift with you even if you think I appear to be stupid

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey @BeMe agreed with me about syn literally selling garage gear on their site and theirs proof with your member posting blood work. Their approved source and yet your sitting here attacking me when you should be doing your job as a mod and investigating this issue.


PS: I still want to lift with you even if you think I appear to be stupid

Not stupid at all just willing to use unapproved sources unlike me which is your right and they may be legit I just assume they aren't. Different prerogatives is all. I've never ordered off SYN so can't speak for them. If there's an issue with SYN then it will get addressed and ONLY because they're an approved source here.

And bro, I mod a minimum of 4-6 hours a day on here and it's not my job to investigate one claim from a lab. That gets kicked up higher than me, and WHY? Because being approved here is a bigger deal than just little old me supporting the big boys who would work circles around what I put in for EVO.

 

[LevButlerov]

Well if they mean sht then keep supporting syn for selling garbage labs in their site and doing nothing about it while YOUR MEMBERS suffer the consequences of crashed test levels and major health issues because of it. A lab test would have shown true potency of the product and could have had your member avoid this all together. But again let’s ignore it and sweep it under the rug

So you're saying @SYNPharmaDist is making garbage gear OR are they re-SELLING a lab that many other sources sell, and that particular lab, you mean Pharmatech, had a bad batch? yes thats obvious and we should have @SYNPharmaDist atone for it, and I openly said so.
But it doesn't take away from your rep-like behavior with growth guys, just drop it stop defending these fools.

LOL you should hear yourself. You and BCGains need to go cuddle in the Growth Guys lounge, I'm sure their lab has an anti-room with a nice love seat.

I think @BCGains for sure reps for growth guys, but @Bigswaz is just getting swept in the high tide here. Him and I went at it a few times lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

So you're saying @SYNPharmaDist is making garbage gear OR are they re-SELLING a lab that many other sources sell, and that particular lab, you mean Pharmatech, had a bad batch? yes thats obvious and we should have @SYNPharmaDist atone for it, and I openly said so.
But it doesn't take away from your rep-like behavior with growth guys, just drop it stop defending these fools.

I think @BCGains for sure reps for growth guys, but @Bigswaz is just getting swept in the high tide here. Him and I went at it a few times lol

Yes SYN made a booboo selling Pharmatech. Here's what I did with my pharmatech DECA many months back when I ordered it by accident. @Bigswaz
GARBAGE!

It's ok that you guys are reps you're just trying to work that hustle, I get it. It just will get no play here it's a waste of your time and @BCGains's too.

 

[BeMe]

94-95 is pretty shit when growth guys are 99.5+ for half the price want to see the tests? It’s all on janoshik and they are recent too!

Pharma grade is 95....so 94-95 shit? You think a 4% difference is big when you're talking mg or mcg doses...you should reall stop talking cuz everytime you do you look dumber and dumber dude.

You really want to start again? Lol. I left you alone cuz you clearly couldn't take anymore. I'm not the guy who soccer kicks someone in the head when they're down so I let you be. I actually kinda felt bad seeing how you responded so I just let you slide. I'm trying to be nice but we can go back to how it was if you want.

 

[BeMe]

So you're saying @SYNPharmaDist is making garbage gear OR are they re-SELLING a lab that many other sources sell, and that particular lab, you mean Pharmatech, had a bad batch? yes thats obvious and we should have @SYNPharmaDist atone for it, and I openly said so.
But it doesn't take away from your rep-like behavior with growth guys, just drop it stop defending these fools.

I think @BCGains for sure reps for growth guys, but @Bigswaz is just getting swept in the high tide here. Him and I went at it a few times lol

Big difference here is @Bigswaz was in the wrong before and he manned up big time and wrote a really solid apology. He deserves our respect for that one. You can't lump him in with these other fools out here reppn. @LevButlerov and @Bigswaz are buddies now, don't forget it haha.

Facts remain growth guys are not approved so they won't get promoted here. Just as simple as that. Can't vouch for unapproved sources, especially when they have mixed reviews from members here. One person's experience is just that. We're happy to listen but that's where it ends

 

[BCGains]

Pharma grade is 95....so 94-95 shit? You think a 4% difference is big when you're talking mg or mcg doses...you should reall stop talking cuz everytime you do you look dumber and dumber dude.

You really want to start again? Lol. I left you alone cuz you clearly couldn't take anymore. I'm not the guy who soccer kicks someone in the head when they're down so I let you be. I actually kinda felt bad seeing how you responded so I just let you slide. I'm trying to be nice but we can go back to how it was if you want.

If you truly think I give a shit about the bullshit you guys spew is hilarious.

I stopped responding cuz your responses are embarassing, no proof, no class, no legitimate argue points just pointless yap.

As if some 40 yr old guy on the internet is “intimidating” me

 

[BCGains]

Pharma grade is 95....so 94-95 shit? You think a 4% difference is big when you're talking mg or mcg doses...you should reall stop talking cuz everytime you do you look dumber and dumber dude.

You really want to start again? Lol. I left you alone cuz you clearly couldn't take anymore. I'm not the guy who soccer kicks someone in the head when they're down so I let you be. I actually kinda felt bad seeing how you responded so I just let you slide. I'm trying to be nice but we can go back to how it was if you want.

Also, pharma Reta doesn’t exist yet you bum, you are talking bullshit lmao it’s just in phase 3 trials you dummy and yes 94/95 is DOG SHIT when you can buy 99+ for cheaper you clown ass

 

[BeMe]

If you truly think I give a shit about the bullshit you guys spew is hilarious.

I stopped responding cuz your responses are embarassing, no proof, no class, no legitimate argue points just pointless yap.

As if some 40 yr old guy on the internet is “intimidating” me

You stopped responding cuz your feelings got hurt lol

Remember this gem

Remember yo momma you dummy. I guess the Xmas at the park memories hit too close to home eh man. Is that why you try so hard to overcompensate by running around on forums talking shit all day?

 

[Bigswaz]

Also, pharma Reta doesn’t exist yet you bum, you are talking bullshit lmao it’s just in phase 3 trials you dummy and yes 94/95 is DOG SHIT when you can buy 99+ for cheaper you clown ass

Hey man that’s way past the line. I myslef don’t agree with a lot that’s been said but this… this isn’t the correct way to handle any situation at all. I respect your view points and we’re all diffeeent and don’t always see eye to eye. But this you lost all respect man….. I’ve fought argued and want to to lose my sht but I’d never stoop low enough to call people names and be little them. Your better then that act like it.

 

[BeMe]

Also, pharma Reta doesn’t exist yet you bum, you are talking bullshit lmao it’s just in phase 3 trials you dummy and yes 94/95 is DOG SHIT when you can buy 99+ for cheaper you clown ass

95 is the standard for pharma grade products tee tease. The fact that you don't know that when you're reppn so hard is pretty hilarious. Try a Google search and see what you come up with. Educate yourself. Something you've clearly failed to do up to this point in your life

Again do you even understand what those numbers even mean? You're like big number mean better, ug ug. But 4 percent is basically nothing.

Plus if you are no example of good reta. You look the exact same in your new pic as your profile pic. Where's the cutting factor? You know you're not supposed to drink it right?

 

[BCGains]

95 is the standard for pharma grade products tee tease. The fact that you don't know that when you're reppn so hard is pretty hilarious. Try a Google search and see what you come up with. Educate yourself. Something you've clearly failed to do up to this point in your life

Again do you even understand what those numbers even mean? You're like big number mean better, ug ug. But 4 percent is basically nothing.

Plus if you are no example of good reta. You look the exact same in your new pic as your profile pic. Where's the cutting factor? You know you're not supposed to drink it right?

Show me the pharma reta tests im waiting.

4 percent isn’t “nothing” when one vendor charges 200+ for 10mg and the other vendor charges 100 for a much more pure product.

You are prime example shit labs considering you are victim weight and should probably focus on injecting food into your mouth over gear

 

[BCGains]

Hey man that’s way past the line. I myslef don’t agree with a lot that’s been said but this… this isn’t the correct way to handle any situation at all. I respect your view points and we’re all diffeeent and don’t always see eye to eye. But this you lost all respect man….. I’ve fought argued and want to to lose my sht but I’d never stoop low enough to call people names and be little them. Your better then that act like it.

Cut the shit bro, these guys sat here talking mad shit nonstop, so I couldn’t care less. I’m not dropping tears over your lack of respect for me trust me on that.

Any real man would call them out on their bullshit, you out here trying to see eye to eye and be friends with bots lmao

 

[BeMe]

You are prime example shit labs considering you are victim weight and should probably focus on injecting food into your mouth over gear

Huh? I'm English please.



Obviously there is no pharma grade reta, it's an INDUSTRY standard. Pharma is short for pharmaceutical...and the pharmaceutical industry standard is 95 percent pure. Do you understand now?

Why do you keep saying things like "Your vendor". It's not mine or the sites vendor dude. Why can't you get this through your skull? We get nothing out of it.

We recommend them based on efficacy and track record. In simple terms for you, that means the gear will always be good and safe. So we feel safe about recommending these vendors. We could care less about who you like or want to use. That's totally up to you.

Everyone is bashing YOU not Growth Guys. Your ignorance and accusational approach is what caused all these issues...notice how no one is going at @Bigswaz or @Enhancedguy who both also like Growth Guys. This has nothing to do with GG and only you @BCGains

You keep arguing these nonsense points and you're looking and behaving like an asshole. Saying stupid shit over and over again just further proving my points that you're the last person any UGL would want representing them.

Just give it a rest. You have no like to stand on and you just keep making yourself look like more and more of a fool.

 

[BCGains]

Huh? I'm English please.



Obviously there is no pharma grade reta, it's an INDUSTRY standard. Pharma is short for pharmaceutical...and the pharmaceutical industry standard is 95 percent pure. Do you understand now?

Why do you keep saying things like "Your vendor". It's not mine or the sites vendor dude. Why can't you get this through your skull? We get nothing out of it.

We recommend them based on efficacy and track record. In simple terms for you, that means the gear will always be good and safe. So we feel safe about recommending these vendors. We could care less about who you like or want to use. That's totally up to you.

Everyone is bashing YOU not Growth Guys. Your ignorance and accusational approach is what caused all these issues...notice how no one is going at @Bigswaz or @Enhancedguy who both also like Growth Guys. This has nothing to do with GG and only you @BCGains

You keep arguing these nonsense points and you're looking and behaving like an asshole. Saying stupid shit over and over again just further proving my points that you're the last person any UGL would want representing them.

Just give it a rest. You have no like to stand on and you just keep making yourself look like more and more of a fool.

The irony here is you mentioned accusations, yet you sit here and accuse me of being a rep, or accuse growth guys of sending fakes etc, re evaluate your argument champ. Only accusations happening is from you and your little crew of mods

It’s you guys that say stupid shit, you discredit tests, you discredit experiences and cock ride each other in the Chat to try to bully anyone else with a different opinion out of the chat.

I personally laugh at all of this shit so keep it up, like I said Christmas

 

[LevButlerov]

Yes SYN made a booboo selling Pharmatech. Here's what I did with my pharmatech DECA many months back when I ordered it by accident. @Bigswaz
GARBAGE!

It's ok that you guys are reps you're just trying to work that hustle, I get it. It just will get no play here it's a waste of your time and @BCGains's too.

Pharmatech Deca going with Growth guys peptides in the trash LOL @HarleyGuy

 

[LevButlerov]

The irony here is you mentioned accusations, yet you sit here and accuse me of being a rep, or accuse growth guys of sending fakes etc, re evaluate your argument champ. Only accusations happening is from you and your little crew of mods

It’s you guys that say stupid shit, you discredit tests, you discredit experiences and cock ride each other in the Chat to try to bully anyone else with a different opinion out of the chat.

I personally laugh at all of this shit so keep it up, like I said Christmas

You talk about cock rides but you’re the only one here riding the big Growth Guys cock every time their name gets typed @BCGains , so is that rep paycheck waiting or what? You keep pretending you’re neutral but nobody defends a source this hard unless they’re getting something out of it, and every post you make reads like a discount coupon with attitude.

You scream “accusations” but everything coming out of you is accusations while you ignore the fact that your entire argument is built on nothing but your word and 2 recycled screenshots. You discredit logs you discredit members you discredit mods and then cry that people won’t bow to your Growth Guys gospel. That’s not defending “your opinion,” that’s exactly what a rep does when the brand gets exposed and the mask slips.

There’s no bullying here.
You got called out because you’re pushing a shady lab and lying about your role in it.
You’re not laughing.
You’re panicking and lashing out because the only guys cock riding are you and your Growth Guys handler.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz

 

[Bigswaz]

Pharmatech Deca going with Growth guys peptides in the trash LOL @HarleyGuy

Getttig blood work done today will post my igf1 results and the rest in my log when I get results

 

[LevButlerov]

Getttig blood work done today will post my igf1 results and the rest in my log when I get results

We going to have a growth guys bitch session after? lol @Bigswaz

 

[Bigswaz]

We going to have a growth guys bitch session after? lol @Bigswaz

@LevButlerov no my brother I’m exhausted mentally and physically. Just wanted to get some blood work. Took screen shots of the post you made of what to get tested went to the dr and she’s like let’s do it. Plus it’s that time to get blood done anyways apart of staying “HEALTHY”

But I mean it would prove the hgh I got per say could or could not be legit

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov no my brother I’m exhausted mentally and physically. Just wanted to get some blood work. Took screen shots of the post you made of what to get tested went to the dr and she’s like let’s do it. Plus it’s that time to get blood done anyways apart of staying “HEALTHY”

But I mean it would prove the hgh I got per say could or could not be legit

Lets get it done EVO family support and love your way, lets be positive my brother @Bigswaz

 

[HarleyGuy]

Getttig blood work done today will post my igf1 results and the rest in my log when I get results

Good stuff bro, let us know!

 

[BCGains]

Getttig blood work done today will post my igf1 results and the rest in my log when I get results

Not like it will matter, mods will still scream selective scamming or some other bs.

Lev is easily the worst offender of them all.

 

[HarleyGuy]

The irony here is you mentioned accusations, yet you sit here and accuse me of being a rep, or accuse growth guys of sending fakes etc, re evaluate your argument champ. Only accusations happening is from you and your little crew of mods

It’s you guys that say stupid shit, you discredit tests, you discredit experiences and cock ride each other in the Chat to try to bully anyone else with a different opinion out of the chat.

I personally laugh at all of this shit so keep it up, like I said Christmas

You're a mosquito... just whining in our ears now.

 

[Bigswaz]

Not like it will matter, mods will still scream selective scamming or some other bs.

Lev is easily the worst offender of them all.

Hey in his and other mods own words proof is in the pudding. Blood work doesn’t lie. And @LevButlerov and I do have an understanding. I respect his standing and I’m sure he respects mine. We are all allowed to have view points opinions ect. @HarleyGuy guy himself only stands firm the way he does as well because of the guidelines set out by this community. Honestly if we don’t like like it we can take a hike. But respectably I’d rather have debates and arguments go hit a bench pr drink some protein and shake hands after wards.

 

[BCGains]

Hey in his and other mods own words proof is in the pudding. Blood work doesn’t lie. And @LevButlerov and I do have an understanding. I respect his standing and I’m sure he respects mine. We are all allowed to have view points opinions ect. @HarleyGuy guy himself only stands firm the way he does as well because of the guidelines set out by this community. Honestly if we don’t like like it we can take a hike. But respectably I’d rather have debates and arguments go hit a bench pr drink some protein and shake hands after wards.

Lol, I can already see the response from lev.

“Thanks for posting blood work! Update that evo LOG bro! But the tests don’t mean anything, growth guys sent you 1 Legit vial with 9 fake vials to trick your blood test. Stick to approved sources next time, there is probably lead, snake oil, and crack mixed with meth in your vial. I wouldn’t trust it!”

I look forward to the shit show

 

[BeMe]

The irony here is you mentioned accusations, yet you sit here and accuse me of being a rep, or accuse growth guys of sending fakes etc, re evaluate your argument champ. Only accusations happening is from you and your little crew of mods

It’s you guys that say stupid shit, you discredit tests, you discredit experiences and cock ride each other in the Chat to try to bully anyone else with a different opinion out of the chat.

I personally laugh at all of this shit so keep it up, like I said Christmas

Yea you said like Christmas yes, and then ur only comeback after was yo momma LOL.

I'm not accusing you of being a rep doofus. We keep saying it cuz you get sooooo butt hurt everytime we do LOL. You just keep falling for it and we're all just laughing at you LOL!!! You're such a dope you don't even realize what's going on haha.

You're clearly no intelligent enough to be a rep. Your ped knowledge is basic at best. Don't know what pharma grade means. Post a fluffy pic when you're talking about how great your reta was. No concept of what 4% purity difference actually equates too in a Reta cycle. A rep would actually know these things.

The only "cock rider" out here is the guy running his mouth hoping Growth Guys will toss him a bone lol. You do kinda look like Wes Watson with that unrealistically colour dyed beard lol. He loves the bone too so maybe there's some parallels here.

And now you're back playing the victim by using words like "bullying" LMAO!!! What happened to the big bad ass who kept shooting off at the mouth cuz he's the ultimate crusader standing up for justice in the world? C'mon cupcake don't dish it out if you can't take it.

 

[BCGains]

Yea you said like Christmas yes, and then ur only comeback after was yo momma LOL.

I'm not accusing you of being a rep doofus. We keep saying it cuz you get sooooo butt hurt everytime we do LOL. You just keep falling for it and we're all just laughing at you LOL!!! You're such a dope you don't even realize what's going on haha.

You're clearly no intelligent enough to be a rep. Your ped knowledge is basic at best. Don't know what pharma grade means. Post a fluffy pic when you're talking about how great your reta was. No concept of what 4% purity difference actually equates too in a Reta cycle. A rep would actually know these things.

The only "cock rider" out here is the guy running his mouth hoping Growth Guys will toss him a bone lol. You do kinda look like Wes Watson with that unrealistically colour dyed beard lol. He loves the bone too so maybe there's some parallels here.

And now you're back playing the victim by using words like "bullying" LMAO!!! What happened to the big bad ass who kept shooting off at the mouth cuz he's the ultimate crusader standing up for justice in the world? C'mon cupcake don't dish it out if you can't take it.

175 victim response

 

[BeMe]

175 victim response

Once again I'm very confused. What it must be like to live in that head of yours lol. It's you against the world...everyone else is a dumbass cuz they can't understand you... everyone's and asshole cuz they don't get along with you.

You should transition so you could blame it on that. Pretty wig and a low cut top I bet you'd get some action too LOL

 

[BCGains]

You should transition so you could blame it on that. Pretty wig and a low cut top I bet you'd get some action too LOL

Stop the wishful thinking, I think the tren may have made you go gay

 

[LevButlerov]

Lol, I can already see the response from lev.

“Thanks for posting blood work! Update that evo LOG bro! But the tests don’t mean anything, growth guys sent you 1 Legit vial with 9 fake vials to trick your blood test. Stick to approved sources next time, there is probably lead, snake oil, and crack mixed with meth in your vial. I wouldn’t trust it!”

I look forward to the shit show

You’re lying about everything again and everyone can see it because the pattern is the same every time Growth Guys gets mentioned. You instantly jump in with this nervous sarcasm, make up fake quotes, try to twist what people said, and pretend you’re some comedian watching a “shit show” when really you’re just trying to get ahead of getting exposed again. That is classic rep behavior, not a normal member giving an opinion. @bcg

Nobody said “1 legit vial and 9 fake vials,” that’s the fantasy straw man you keep building because you have 0 real argument. What people actually said is that a single vial test means nothing when a shady lab can cherry pick 1 clean sample and under dose the rest. And the only reason that triggers you this hard is because it hits your situation perfectly.

You’re not predicting responses, you’re pre spinning them because you’re guilty.
You’re not joking, you’re deflecting.
You’re not neutral, you’re repping for Growth Guys harder than their own website.

You keep lying, keep inventing stories, keep shifting the conversation, and keep trying to paint EVO brothers as some cartoon villain mob because you can’t provide a single piece of real proof that Growth Guys isn’t exactly what people said they are, a selective scam.

The only “shit show” here is you doing PR for a lab nobody trusts.

 

[LevButlerov]

Stop the wishful thinking, I think the tren may have made you go gay

youu’re only saying that because you already exposed yourself earlier talking about those homosexual fantasies and now you’re scrambling to project it on everyone else. @BCGains
Every time you get cornered about repping for Growth Guys you panic, deflect, and throw some weird line hoping people forget the receipts you already posted. Nobody here is buying it. You weren’t joking then and you’re not joking now, you’re just trying to shift attention because you have 0 defence for that scam lab you keep protecting.

 

[BCGains]

youu’re only saying that because you already exposed yourself earlier talking about those homosexual fantasies and now you’re scrambling to project it on everyone else. @BCGains
Every time you get cornered about repping for Growth Guys you panic, deflect, and throw some weird line hoping people forget the receipts you already posted. Nobody here is buying it. You weren’t joking then and you’re not joking now, you’re just trying to shift attention because you have 0 defence for that scam lab you keep protecting.

So what’s the response when his test comes back and it proves it’s legit? Lol

 

[LevButlerov]

So what’s the response when his test comes back and it proves it’s legit? Lol

Lets see the test first lol @BCGains

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I heard @BCGains prints growth guys labels, is this true?

 

[BCGains]

I heard @BCGains prints growth guys labels, is this true?

I heard you wear your girlfriend’s thongs, can we please get a mod to verify the legitimacy of this?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I heard you wear your girlfriend’s thongs, can we please get a mod to verify the legitimacy of this?

It’s true no need verification I like them strings.
Now let’s get back to you, growth guys rep, when you coming out of closet and logging in as growth guys?

 

[HarleyGuy]

175 victim response

@BCGains=GG rep ... his advertising tactics above

 

[LevButlerov]

@BCGains=GG rep ... his advertising tactics above

This is now a thong convo from what I see lol

 

[HarleyGuy]

This is now a thong convo from what I see lol

@BCGains Myself and @BeMe prefer the seamless boyshorts panties. Let's see where you go with that one. Where do you find the time to post this much on here while you're filling all those orders for GG?

 

[Bigswaz]

@BCGains Myself and @BeMe prefer the seamless boyshorts panties. Let's see where you go with that one. Where do you find the time to post this much on here while you're filling all those orders for GG?

………. I just go commando. Either you join me in the hot tub with your Martini shaken not stirred or go home

 

[BCGains]

It’s true no need verification I like them strings.
Now let’s get back to you, growth guys rep, when you coming out of closet and logging in as growth guys?

Truthfully no I’m not a rep, I’ve been using them for HGH for over a year and have tried other products like Reta, bpc tb500 etc from them.

So I figured I would chime in when lev was openly slandering a good source.

But regardless it doesn’t matter, because ultimately you guys don’t give a shit. I doubt you even truly think I am a rep, because if you did you’d be an absolute idiot.

If you look at my post history you’d notice I’ve tried many many labs and I just give my honest opinion whether you or any other mod likes to agree with it or not.

had I been growthguys rep I wouldn’t bother with this forum based on the reputation you guys currently have.

Nordic fusion ran away with people’s money.
Syn pharma selling questionable gear on their website I mean really would a good source want to be part of a forum that has this type of reputation?

And let’s be honest, growth guys are a very large distributor in Canada, they don’t need the attention from this forum, I’m sure it’s already a cash cow.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

let’s be honest, growth guys are a very large distributor in Canada, they don’t need the attention from this forum, I’m sure it’s already a cash cow.

Did you buy a Ferrari with your cash cow? be honest

 

[Eddie Haskell]

………. I just go commando. Either you join me in the hot tub with your Martini shaken not stirred or go home

I prefer the red strings my girl wears as I get in the tub
no alcohol allowed! I have to stay away.

 

[BeMe]

Did you buy a Ferrari with your cash cow? be honest

King of the one liners LMAO!!!

These Aussie guys got crazy jokes. Best in the game lol

 

[BeMe]

Truthfully no I’m not a rep, I’ve been using them for HGH for over a year and have tried other products like Reta, bpc tb500 etc from them.

So I figured I would chime in when lev was openly slandering a good source.

But regardless it doesn’t matter, because ultimately you guys don’t give a shit. I doubt you even truly think I am a rep, because if you did you’d be an absolute idiot.

If you look at my post history you’d notice I’ve tried many many labs and I just give my honest opinion whether you or any other mod likes to agree with it or not.

had I been growthguys rep I wouldn’t bother with this forum based on the reputation you guys currently have.

Nordic fusion ran away with people’s money.
Syn pharma selling questionable gear on their website I mean really would a good source want to be part of a forum that has this type of reputation?

And let’s be honest, growth guys are a very large distributor in Canada, they don’t need the attention from this forum, I’m sure it’s already a cash cow.

Lol if this forum has a bad reputation then why come here and try to make an argument?

Wouldn't that basically be akin to banging your head against a wall?

Or trying to convince @Bigswaz to put on a bathing suit?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Truthfully no I’m not a rep, I’ve been using them for HGH for over a year and have tried other products like Reta, bpc tb500 etc from them.

So I figured I would chime in when lev was openly slandering a good source.

But regardless it doesn’t matter, because ultimately you guys don’t give a shit. I doubt you even truly think I am a rep, because if you did you’d be an absolute idiot.

If you look at my post history you’d notice I’ve tried many many labs and I just give my honest opinion whether you or any other mod likes to agree with it or not.

had I been growthguys rep I wouldn’t bother with this forum based on the reputation you guys currently have.

Nordic fusion ran away with people’s money.
Syn pharma selling questionable gear on their website I mean really would a good source want to be part of a forum that has this type of reputation?

And let’s be honest, growth guys are a very large distributor in Canada, they don’t need the attention from this forum, I’m sure it’s already a cash cow.

Any cow with cash is a GG rep wearing a cow costume.

 

[LevButlerov]

Everyone lets turn the dial down, this is getting out of hand
I didn't reach out to @BCGains in private on purpose I didn't want this to be hidden, we are transparent here.
If you want to clear your name @BCGains bring growth guys to EVO to talk for himself, otherwise it looks like you're talking for him.
You don't think you look like a mouthpiece for him? I do and everyone else does.

Truthfully no I’m not a rep, I’ve been using them for HGH for over a year and have tried other products like Reta, bpc tb500 etc from them.

So I figured I would chime in when lev was openly slandering a good source.

But regardless it doesn’t matter, because ultimately you guys don’t give a shit. I doubt you even truly think I am a rep, because if you did you’d be an absolute idiot.

If you look at my post history you’d notice I’ve tried many many labs and I just give my honest opinion whether you or any other mod likes to agree with it or not.

had I been growthguys rep I wouldn’t bother with this forum based on the reputation you guys currently have.

Nordic fusion ran away with people’s money.
Syn pharma selling questionable gear on their website I mean really would a good source want to be part of a forum that has this type of reputation?

And let’s be honest, growth guys are a very large distributor in Canada, they don’t need the attention from this forum, I’m sure it’s already a cash cow.

I prefer the red strings my girl wears as I get in the tub
no alcohol allowed! I have to stay away.

King of the one liners LMAO!!!

These Aussie guys got crazy jokes. Best in the game lol

Lol if this forum has a bad reputation then why come here and try to make an argument?

Wouldn't that basically be akin to banging your head against a wall?

Or trying to convince @Bigswaz to put on a bathing suit?

Any cow with cash is a GG rep wearing a cow costume.

………. I just go commando. Either you join me in the hot tub with your Martini shaken not stirred or go home

 

[BCGains]

Everyone lets turn the dial down, this is getting out of hand
I didn't reach out to @BCGains in private on purpose I didn't want this to be hidden, we are transparent here.
If you want to clear your name @BCGains bring growth guys to EVO to talk for himself, otherwise it looks like you're talking for him.
You don't think you look like a mouthpiece for him? I do and everyone else does.

You really act like I know these guys or live across the street from them?

Yeah let me just call homeboy and have him hop in the chat

Lmao bro it’s an online website I just order from. Quit the bullshit posts it’s getting tiresome.

God forbid I like a source and want to give Canadians useful information not just YAP defamation with 0 credibility or experience. @LevButlerov im looking at you.

I’ve refrained from responding a lot because you guys keep saying the same dumb sht, just let the chat die till @Bigswaz gets his test and proves how wrong you are.

Then what @LevButlerov what’s the excuse then?
I’m sure you’ll pull some shit, it’s in your blood. You can’t be REAL you are like a politician bound to follow your boards directions.

Me however? I’m free, I’m not bound to any shackles of this board, I can speak openly.

BCGains keeping it real one post at a time

Stay mad

 

[Noah Wixx]

No I do get it and I understand what you’re saying. But they have been vetted have gone through approval processes testing done on other major Canadian forums, the same forums that fusion and syn are apart of. Just because they’re not here doesn’t mean they’re not legit. Regardless I’m not here to fight with anyone I’ll try and get him to come here.

It is nice when someone who uses a vendor or product we haven't or dont see on evo to come in, at the end of the day if someone can come correct with receipts and proof of legitimacy it helps put everyone at ease, although he doesn't have to do any of that because its his business and if he is on enough sites and content that's his business, if he did come here and get someone not affiliated with his company to run a log and bloods it goes a long way if he did want to get approval here regardless this whole post has turned into a mushy back and forth mess

 

[LevButlerov]

You really act like I know these guys or live across the street from them?

Yeah let me just call homeboy and have him hop in the chat

Lmao bro it’s an online website I just order from. Quit the bullshit posts it’s getting tiresome.

God forbid I like a source and want to give Canadians useful information not just YAP defamation with 0 credibility or experience. @LevButlerov im looking at you.

I’ve refrained from responding a lot because you guys keep saying the same dumb sht, just let the chat die till @Bigswaz gets his test and proves how wrong you are.

Then what @LevButlerov what’s the excuse then?
I’m sure you’ll pull some shit, it’s in your blood. You can’t be REAL you are like a politician bound to follow your boards directions.

Me however? I’m free, I’m not bound to any shackles of this board, I can speak openly.

BCGains keeping it real one post at a time

Stay mad

Stop lying to yourself you are free here but not free to lie right. @BCGains You keep screaming that you are just some random customer but every time Growth Guys is mentioned you appear out of nowhere and fight harder for them than they ever do for you which is exactly how a rep behaves not a normal member.

1st you bragged that the lab is legit because your local gyms use them and your friends use them and they took over gyms in your area and now suddenly it is just an online website you order from and you do not know them at all. That is a straight contradiction and everyone reading can see it. You are lying about your connection and hiding behind this fake victim act while you attack EVO brothers, mods, VIPs and members for not worshipping your favorite source.

You keep talking about accusations but the only person here building stories out of thin air is you. You invent fantasies that we are all bots and politicians and shackled while you present 0 proof and ignore years of history with shady tests and shady behavior from that lab. 1 guys bloodwork or 1 vial result does not erase a pattern.

You are not some free voice keeping it real, you are the badly paid mouthpiece for a lab that cannot defend itself in the open. You are free to post but you are not free to rewrite reality and expect nobody to call it out.

Looks like I ranted here my EVO brothers

@BeMe @HarleyGuy

 

[Noah Wixx]

The one thing that always is fascinating is when something like this happens with a non approved source and disagreements start, the source in question somehow like clockwork new members just appear out of nowhere to talk up that source or defend it, only time that ever happens, when u check posts they have 1 or a few all on the source thread... could people do a google search sure, majority of the time that is unlikely to happen. I offen times see its buddies or reps or members of a different message board who hear about it and then come here and defend said source or say they use a source. I like seeing proof personally vials label's etc, other wise your a no profile picture random who i cant take for truth, weve all been around long enough to understand why we ask for photos or proof etc.

Like i talk about belgias and pharmaqo all the time being two of my favorite brands from my experiences with them and my cycles, which can be seen in my logs or offen times i will just do this to show im not just talking about it, i actually run whag im speaking about with experience.

This was my last cycle right now currently just doing trt etc.

 

[BCGains]

Stop lying to yourself you are free here but not free to lie right. @BCGains You keep screaming that you are just some random customer but every time Growth Guys is mentioned you appear out of nowhere and fight harder for them than they ever do for you which is exactly how a rep behaves not a normal member.

1st you bragged that the lab is legit because your local gyms use them and your friends use them and they took over gyms in your area and now suddenly it is just an online website you order from and you do not know them at all. That is a straight contradiction and everyone reading can see it. You are lying about your connection and hiding behind this fake victim act while you attack EVO brothers, mods, VIPs and members for not worshipping your favorite source.

You keep talking about accusations but the only person here building stories out of thin air is you. You invent fantasies that we are all bots and politicians and shackled while you present 0 proof and ignore years of history with shady tests and shady behavior from that lab. 1 guys bloodwork or 1 vial result does not erase a pattern.

You are not some free voice keeping it real, you are the badly paid mouthpiece for a lab that cannot defend itself in the open. You are free to post but you are not free to rewrite reality and expect nobody to call it out.

Looks like I ranted here my EVO brothers

@BeMe @HarleyGuy

Only paid mouth piece here is you. All you do is write long ass pages of bullshit.

You aren’t even Canadian you don’t know jack shit lev, I’m excited to see your reaction when @Bigswaz posts his bloods and then you are left scrambling for another defamation story you like to write up.

You are easily the worst mod here because you talk too much shit with 0 knowledge on labs and just sit there and make claims. No other mod here has done that to the degree you do.

Talk about paid mouthpiece

 

[BCGains]

side note I want everyone to take a second and look at EVERY MODERATORS SIGNATURE.

Who’s the paid mouth piece here? Lmao

 

[Noah Wixx]

side note I want everyone to take a second and look at EVERY MODERATORS SIGNATURE.

Who’s the paid mouth piece here? Lmao

Our signature is common knowledge its out in the open for a reason it goes back a few pages now when i openly admitted from time to time we can get a sponsored cycle that's like that on any message board, its not a smoking gun by any means i can still be forthcoming and truthful about my experiences good or bad i don't sugar coat it, i would talk openly about it via a post or my own log.

 

[BCGains]

Our signature is common knowledge its out in the open for a reason it goes back a few pages now when i openly admitted from time to time we can get a sponsored cycle that's like that on any message board, its not a smoking gun by any means i can still be forthcoming and truthful about my experiences good or bad i don't sugar coat it, i would talk openly about it via a post or my own log.

Noah none of this is directly towards you. You haven’t made any outlandish made up claims. All of this is mainly towards lev, if you look at his history of comments all he’s done is slander a lab he knows nothing about. Claiming they send out fakes or some other bs when he has no experience. Meanwhile @Bigswaz myself and others have shared experience with the source and it’s all been positive, yet he continues to tell us no it’s a scam.

Regarding your last comment, yes here is a 400iu kit of HGH from growth guys, this was before they added labels. @Bigswaz can vouch that this is how they came.

I’ve gone through multiple of these kits and other products from them, I just don’t really take pics of my gear unless I’m showing some friends irl.

Now pay attention, I’ve posted recent janoshik testing, I’ve posted the product, I’ve posted other forums verifying the legitimacy but what has lev posted? Nothing. He just makes bullshit claims

 

[Noah Wixx]

Noah none of this is directly towards you. You haven’t made any outlandish made up claims. All of this is mainly towards lev, if you look at his history of comments all he’s done is slander a lab he knows nothing about. Claiming they send out fakes or some other bs when he has no experience. Meanwhile @Bigswaz myself and others have shared experience with the source and it’s all been positive, yet he continues to tell us no it’s a scam.

Regarding your last comment, yes here is a 400iu kit of HGH from growth guys, this was before they added labels. @Bigswaz can vouch that this is how they came.

I’ve gone through multiple of these kits and other products from them, I just don’t really take pics of my gear unless I’m showing some friends irl.

I know its not directed towards me brother no offense or negativity i was merely just trying to be productive and open in the conversation and speak my truth and can only speak for myself and my status as an individual moderator. I typically try and be reasonable and talk with people and get all sides and try and meet somewhere in the middle. I like people to see and know the truth, what you said was true about the signatures so i just wanted to add that for most who have been in the game a while they know what it means, i wanted to be open i absolutely am and have been sponsored by domestic-supply.com i wont hide it or lie about it. I also understand other sources exist outside of evo who are good, i just cant speak on them being good because i dont have any experience with said source myself, im more of a i have to inject it or take it personally and have a good few runs with products before i can give it the go head for others i like making sure people are smart and safe with what we are doing. I cant speak for lev as he is his own man with his own thoughts i also know you are a man with yours and your beliefs and stances on experience and sources, in the end id like to see GG come on here and say his peace instead of talking behind him id rather we talk to him and with him, not really fair if he cant speak on his company customers or products just my opinion of course others might feel differently.

 

[BCGains]

I also understand other sources exist outside of evo who are good, i just cant speak on them being good because i dont have any experience with said source myself, im more of a i have to inject it or take it personally and have a good few runs with products before i can give it the go head for others i like making sure people are smart and safe with what we are doing.

This is exactly the response I expect from mods, if you don’t know don’t slander a source.

And I whole heartedly agree, that’s why I decided to post, because I noticed the negative comments and I’m sitting here like wtf.. that’s bullshit, I’ve used it myself so I’m sure I know far more than some dude in America or Australia talking shit about a lab that doesn’t even ship to him.

I’ve repeated multiple times, if you guys don’t have experience just say “we don’t know, to be safe try our approved sources”

But instead as you can see, defamation and slander has been consistently the reaction.

 

[Noah Wixx]

This is exactly the response I expect from mods, if you don’t know don’t slander a source.

And I whole heartedly agree, that’s why I decided to post, because I noticed the negative comments and I’m sitting here like wtf.. that’s bullshit, I’ve used it myself so I’m sure I know far more than some dude in America or Australia talking shit about a lab that doesn’t even ship to him.

I’ve repeated multiple times, if you guys don’t have experience just say “we don’t know, to be safe try our approved sources”

But instead as you can see, defamation and slander has been consistently the reaction.

I actually will try and research topics on sources and go out of my way to look up sources on other message boards or review sites outside of evo, it can be tricky because you dont know who knows who or who is working with who or who is just a legitimate customer with experience with a source. I do atleast make an attempt to learn about sources and read people's posts on it.

To my knowledge so far i only saw a few posts of someone pretending to be GG and scamming people with an email, the email was very similar in nature to GG email with a slight change you wouldn't catch unless paying attention to it, that was in 2024 i believe, i didn't actually see any reports of GG scamming which i will be upfront about.

I try my best not to be biased at the end of the day obviously im going to back evo sources because i have all my experience with plenty of our sources here and know they are GTG, that doesn't mean i have to discredit someone else's experiences outside of evo.

Two way street man i like to believe any and all are welcome here on evo to discuss any and everything fitness life or ped related.

 

[BCGains]

I actually will try and research topics on sources and go out of my way to look up sources on other message boards or review sites outside of evo, it can be tricky because you dont know who knows who or who is working with who or who is just a legitimate customer with experience with a source. I do atleast make an attempt to learn about sources and read people's posts on it.

To my knowledge so far i only saw a few posts of someone pretending to be GG and scamming people with an email, the email was very similar in nature to GG email with a slight change you wouldn't catch unless paying attention to it, that was in 2024 i believe, i didn't actually see any reports of GG scamming which i will be upfront about.

I try my best not to be biased at the end of the day obviously im going to back evo sources because i have all my experience with plenty of our sources here and know they are GTG, that doesn't mean i have to discredit someone else's experiences outside of evo.

Two way street man i like to believe any and all are welcome here on evo to discuss any and everything fitness life or ped related.

This is true, on the other board they did make a comment about “gr0wthguys” email being a scam. The 0 instead of the o.

They no longer take orders via email, it’s all on their website now you can order directly

You are A OK in my book @noahwixx you seem like a solid dude and are actually keeping it real. I like that

 

[Noah Wixx]

This is true, on the other board they did make a comment about “gr0wthguys” email being a scam. The 0 instead of the o.

They no longer take orders via email, it’s all on their website now you can order directly

You are A OK in my book @noahwixx you seem like a solid dude and are actually keeping it real. I like that

Yeah i thought that was it but i didn't want to speak on the 0 or the o unless i was 100% certain i just remember it was something with the email.

Its all part of being a mod and who i am on here is how i carry myself in my daily life, i just try to be well-rounded and truthful brother no more no less.

I think Canadians just like me man lol, one of my closest friends is Canadian lol hell im from the Midwest might as well be from Canada myself right lol.

 

[Stranger]

Always heard good things about gg but never tried them yet

 

[BCGains]

Always heard good things about gg but never tried them yet

Nice assuming that’s your Reta you just got. It def packs a punch lol you’ll be pleased. I’ve used that Reta myself with my wife, her sisters and my own mother is also using it.

If it’s your first time using Reta, less is more. Start with 1mg a week split into 2-3 doses my suggestion.

 

[Stranger]

Nice assuming that’s your Reta you just got. It def packs a punch lol you’ll be pleased. I’ve used that Reta myself with my wife, her sisters and my own mother is also using it.

If it’s your first time using Reta, less is more. Start with 1mg a week split into 2-3 doses my suggestion.

yeah that's my pic just now. was gonna start 1mg for 2 weeks then 2mg onwards? hearing i need more for the gluc effects but i'll feel it out. .5mg pharma sema made me nauseous

 

[Stranger]

. Start with 1mg a week split into 2-3 doses my suggestion.

do you notice this or you're just talking about half life stable levels? ill probably go with 1/w unless i feel off by day 4+

 

[HarleyGuy]

Noah none of this is directly towards you. You haven’t made any outlandish made up claims. All of this is mainly towards lev, if you look at his history of comments all he’s done is slander a lab he knows nothing about. Claiming they send out fakes or some other bs when he has no experience. Meanwhile @Bigswaz myself and others have shared experience with the source and it’s all been positive, yet he continues to tell us no it’s a scam.

Regarding your last comment, yes here is a 400iu kit of HGH from growth guys, this was before they added labels. @Bigswaz can vouch that this is how they came.

I’ve gone through multiple of these kits and other products from them, I just don’t really take pics of my gear unless I’m showing some friends irl.

Now pay attention, I’ve posted recent janoshik testing, I’ve posted the product, I’ve posted other forums verifying the legitimacy but what has lev posted? Nothing. He just makes bullshit claims

Why buy off GG then, those are clearly from China with no labels and marked up probably 500% by GG. I thought you had a plug from China you order from so why are you ordering marked up GH off GG?

 

[Stranger]

I also support the reta from the trusted sources here too, if they provide the jano tests for current batches

 

[BCGains]

do you notice this or you're just talking about half life stable levels? ill probably go with 1/w unless i feel off by day 4+

I noticed when you do one dosage that is larger for the whole week, the first few days after that dosage is tough. Nauseous, 0 appetite and just overall feeling like crap

 

[BCGains]

Why buy off GG then, those are clearly from China with no labels and marked up probably 500% by GG. I thought you had a plug from China you order from so why are you ordering marked up GH off GG?

It’s all from China lmao you’d think you’d know.

Your approved sources get all of their Raws and peptides from China.

I paid 400$ for 400 iu of GH from gg, when other sources are doing the same thing charging 350+ for 100 iu.
Why would I order from them?

I did order from China as well, it’s just easier sometimes to order from GG because the prices are good and I don’t have to fear customs seizing my package or having to wait months for it.

One of my China orders should be here by the end of the week actually.

 

[HarleyGuy]

It’s all from China lmao you’d think you’d know.

Your approved sources get all of their Raws and peptides from China.

Of course it's all from China. The inositol put into vials and sold as GH isn't though.

 

[BCGains]

Of course it's all from China. The inositol put into vials and sold as GH isn't though

And how do we know your own approved vendors aren’t being scammed by the Chinese selling inositol as GH?

I assume it’s because they do this wild thing called janoshik testing, just like growth guys and any other peptide reseller.

But your argument always defaults to, gg fakes it, ours don’t. But that’s a load of shit and you know it.

 

[HarleyGuy]

And how do we know your own approved vendors aren’t being scammed by the Chinese selling inositol as GH?

I assume it’s because they do this wild thing called janoshik testing, just like growth guys and any other peptide reseller.

But your argument always defaults to, gg fakes it, ours don’t. But that’s a load of shit and you know it.

Why don't you actually add to this forum by updating your log instead of repping for GG all day long waiting for mods to reply. You're not going to change things here at this point you're just yelling the same thing into a canyon and the same echoes are coming back at you which by definition is insanity and wanting to whine about certain mods for the sake of it. You won't win here so you can stay mad, or be productive and focus more on your log and let us see what you're up to. We might even have advice for your supps and training if you can stand to listen to it.

 

[Stranger]

Of course it's all from China. The inositol put into vials and sold as GH isn't though.

inositol and gh aren't even close, though. atleast for people that know what to look for

 

[HarleyGuy]

inositol and gh aren't even close, though. atleast for people that know what to look for

Neither are nectarines and peaches but I could go to a farmers market and sell nectarines as peaches to at least 50% of the masses out there.

 

[Stranger]

I noticed when you do one dosage that is larger for the whole week, the first few days after that dosage is tough. Nauseous, 0 appetite and just overall feeling like crap

thanks, ill be on the look-out for that and take your advice at heart

 

[BCGains]

Why don't you actually add to this forum by updating your log instead of repping for GG all day long waiting for mods to reply. You're not going to change things here at this point you're just yelling the same thing into a canyon and the same echoes are coming back at you which by definition is insanity and wanting to whine about certain mods for the sake of it. You won't win here so you can stay mad, or be productive and focus more on your log and let us see what you're up to. We might even have advice for your supps and training if you can stand to listen to it.

I am adding to the forums, you should see all of the love I get from the Canadian bros on evo. Only people that dislike me or yap are a few mods.

Seems like I’ve already won.

thanks, ill be on the look-out for that and take your advice at heart

See? @HarleyGuy I’ve provided more in this thread than you or lev or any other mod has.

Aside from Noah, he’s a real one.

 

[BCGains]

I also want you all to recognize, not once have I bad mouthed any approved source on this board or even claimed they send out fakes, but look at how the mods act when members are actively posting positive reviews about other sources. Just look at the shit lev or Harley type

Do I think the approved sources are selling overpriced peptides? Absolutely!

Do I think they are fake? Not at all

Do I know there are cheaper alternatives that are readily available for Canadians? ABSOLUTELY

Will I speak openly about it and ensure I’m helping other Canadians find good priced peptides or gear and not get overcharged for China shit?
100 fuckin percent


Who’s the bad guy?

 

[nattybydesign]

I also want you all to recognize, not once have I bad mouthed any approved source on this board or even claimed they send out fakes, but look at how the mods act when members are actively posting positive reviews about other sources. Just look at the shit lev or Harley type

Do I think the approved sources are selling overpriced peptides? Absolutely!

Do I think they are fake? Not at all

Do I know there are cheaper alternatives that are readily available for Canadians? ABSOLUTELY

Will I speak openly about it and ensure I’m helping other Canadians find good priced peptides or gear and not get overcharged for China shit?
100 fuckin percent


Who’s the bad guy?

This thread is popping off for some reason.

I've tried GG, first source I've ever tried actually.

TB500/BPC157 -> blood flow to / muscle recovery felt better
CJC no dac / IPA -> flushing of face / little bit of hunger
Seems legit, I'm not sure about all the approved Canadian sources on this forum, but Syn seems okay.
The GG Janoshik results are a nice touch and the bottles are labeled with the batch number on the tests.
I've since moved to another peptide source with more group-testing / open discourse and have the same results I've mentioned.
I don't think I've ever seen Syn post Janoshik tests though. At the end of the day things are kind of Russian roulette even if they are 'approved'
Also word of caution for anyone that sees 'approved' as good to go , especially if you check out other forums, some of the mods just turn a blind eye to cash grabbing.

 

[LevButlerov]

Only paid mouth piece here is you. All you do is write long ass pages of bullshit.

You aren’t even Canadian you don’t know jack shit lev, I’m excited to see your reaction when @Bigswaz posts his bloods and then you are left scrambling for another defamation story you like to write up.

You are easily the worst mod here because you talk too much shit with 0 knowledge on labs and just sit there and make claims. No other mod here has done that to the degree you do.

Talk about paid mouthpiece

side note I want everyone to take a second and look at EVERY MODERATORS SIGNATURE.

Who’s the paid mouth piece here? Lmao

The only reason you do not advertise Growth Guys in your signature is because you cannot have one here and you know it. @BCGains If you had a banner slot you would have their logo plastered under every post in 5 minutes so stop pretending you are some neutral guy who just orders off a random website.

You keep acting like being Canadian gives you special source knowledge but all you actually do is make false claims and rep for Growth Guys every time their name comes up which does not make you some Canadian authority it just makes you another shill liar. You call everyone else paid mouthpieces while hiding your own connection to that lab and that is why nobody here believes a word you say.

@BeMe @HarleyGuy

 

[BCGains]

This thread is popping off for some reason.

I've tried GG, first source I've ever tried actually.

TB500/BPC157 -> blood flow to / muscle recovery felt better
CJC no dac / IPA -> flushing of face / little bit of hunger
Seems legit, I'm not sure about all the approved Canadian sources on this forum, but Syn seems okay.
The GG Janoshik results are a nice touch and the bottles are labeled with the batch number on the tests.
I've since moved to another peptide source with more group-testing / open discourse and have the same results I've mentioned.
I don't think I've ever seen Syn post Janoshik tests though. At the end of the day things are kind of Russian roulette even if they are 'approved'
Also word of caution for anyone that sees 'approved' as good to go , especially if you check out other forums, some of the mods just turn a blind eye to cash grabbing.

Love it when a guy hops on here and keeps it real and isn’t afraid of mod backlash.

Syn I’ve used for years, so I’ve come to trust the product myself, however I don’t order from the website posted here, so I can’t speak on that.

Care to share what source you are getting peptides from now? I’m always curious what other Canadians are using. I’ve used the Syn peptides, gg, and canada pep. They have all been solid.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Love it when a guy hops on here and keeps it real and isn’t afraid of mod backlash.

Syn I’ve used for years, so I’ve come to trust the product myself, however I don’t order from the website posted here, so I can’t speak on that.

Care to share what source you are getting peptides from now? I’m always curious what other Canadians are using. I’ve used the Syn peptides, gg, and canada pep. They have all been solid.

You're mad because you can't come on here and reinvent the EVO wheel. EVO is EVO, end of story and we've been around longer than you've been lifting. I've was on elitefitness.com in 1999 and I knew about EVO eight years ago going back to 2017 and they haven't changed. We've been through the whole brand new popup websites that resell Chinese stuff and they end up crashing and burning like every other either legit new startup or bunk gear website too. Your company Growth Guys will crash and burn too.

You'll get nowhere on here trying to point members to unapproved sources. You got what, one or two members listening to you? Good for you. We have a quarter million members on here and thousands of logs and our vetting process isn't going to change so keep trying to push unapproved sources and the only play/money you'll get for Growth Guys is from the newbies who don't know any better yet. @LevButlerov @BeMe

 

[BCGains]

You're mad because you can't come on here and reinvent the EVO wheel. EVO is EVO, end of story and we've been around longer than you've been lifting. I've was on elitefitness.com in 1999 and I knew about EVO eight years ago going back to 2017 and they haven't changed. We've been through the whole brand new popup websites that resell Chinese stuff and they end up crashing and burning like every other either legit new startup or bunk gear website too. Your company Growth Guys will crash and burn too.

You'll get nowhere on here trying to point members to unapproved sources. You got what, one or two members listening to you? Good for you. We have a quarter million members on here and thousands of logs and our vetting process isn't going to change so keep trying to push unapproved sources and the only play/money you'll get for Growth Guys is from the newbies who don't know any better yet. @LevButlerov @BeMe

I’ve yet to see a single member that isn’t a mod agree with you or lev.

Sorry I didn’t know giving personal experience and speaking about sources was reinventing the wheel. What’s the wheel at evo? Push the labs that pays evo and talk shit about those that don’t?

That seems like a pretty shady wheel to me.

 

[nattybydesign]

Also I forgot to mention they accept Paypal, so chargeback is possible

Love it when a guy hops on here and keeps it real and isn’t afraid of mod backlash.

Syn I’ve used for years, so I’ve come to trust the product myself, however I don’t order from the website posted here, so I can’t speak on that.

Care to share what source you are getting peptides from now? I’m always curious what other Canadians are using. I’ve used the Syn peptides, gg, and canada pep. They have all been solid.

All underground stuff, you'll need to keep digging into places like glp1 forums. Everything is sketch though, you'll need to join group-testing to really vet what you have is the real deal. 1/10 vials + group fee. Even with Syn, do you even know what you have is what they tested, unless you send off a tablet or a vial? Who's got the resources to do that though . Canada also sucks in terms of blood testing (https://teletest.ca/app/care/mens-health/) is only offered in 1/12 provinces in Canada + ease of access to real gear. Unless you want to pay out of the ass for stuff like Gambit Health or Felix (you can search those up to see the costs per month) for less than TRT dosages...

 

[BeMe]

side note I want everyone to take a second and look at EVERY MODERATORS SIGNATURE.

Who’s the paid mouth piece here? Lmao

I'm a mod