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Not sure why I didn't notice this before but I see your using the RP app? I use it as well. Love it!! Money well spent!!!
Like adding another 2iu before bed? That would probably help a lot. My recovery metrics got so much better after I started using 2iu before bed. The sleep I got those first few nights was amazing.
Learning the language bro! Gonna put it to good use one day hopefully. Until then I can talk shit Aussie style here with you boys lolGh pm makes for an elite sleep lol. Happy to hear the strength and stamina has come back fully ya weapon always nice to feel in control again and not just surviving the workouts lol.
Hahaha mince, getting more aussie by the day legend
Yea it's great. I used Evolveai for a little over a year and that app was murdering me lol. More powerlifting focused and it was feeding me 2hr training sessions most days.
I like the RP app much better with the bodybuilding hypertrophy focus. Really pushes you to progress and the templates or autofills for the the mesocycles helps keeps things fresh too. In the 2 years of using it I've only had 1 problem with the app and I think it's cuz they were having server issues for 20 minutes.
What templates do you like you to run?
I've always just built my own based on what my current training needs are and the exercises that I like best but I have a 5 week build block starting next week and I may just pick one of their templates and let it rip. What template do you use?
Shit man your macros and rep ranges are right where I wanna be when I start my next cycle.
The daily updates have me in awe. You and I being the only Canadian mods I can't keep up with my log like you do I'm gonna DM you to try and poach all your software you use if that's alright. My log updates take me about a half hour atm just with the details, typing the workout and adjusting macros/cals/reps, etc after a cut and paste which you'd think would speed it up.
You don't add pics often too which also takes up a lot of time for me. I wanna get situated for daily log updates while humming along with the mod shit.
I love that you're inching closer to 200lbs in weight brother you're a beast!
How is this working out for you bro? I remember when you were planning to add it - I've been researching it a lot lately. It's hard to stay focused on what I'm currently taking instead of thinking of what's next
This super interesting man. There's so much medical literature about GH, they've tried it for so many things with great success. I think the info gets muddied in the BB world because of generic GH. I'm definitely keen to head how to go with it.
Yeah I might give it a go, sleep has been pretty average lately
Anybody middle aged who’s into this lifestyle should at least try gh imo. It’s what really levels you up. You sleep really good, and you just take it and it doesn’t seem to do much and then one day you wake up looking different and crazy. It’s awesome. It affects me pretty strongly I get a lot of daytime lethargy, that’s tough.Yeah I might give it a go, sleep has been pretty average lately
Oh I do 2IU in the AM fasted for cardio already, absolutely love it, more interested if it is worth adding another 2 for PM
Ooooooh my bad. Well idk how you take it the daytime hahaha. I felt like I was too tired to drive safely
I've run a whole bunch of them. Thor, Black Adam, 5 day upper, bigger arms, 4 day upper, 4 day total body, then also like you I've taken a template and modified it so I have a couple of my own. It's a lot of fun to tool around with and I love the progression scheme week to week.
Honestly I'm too much of a meathead so I find the app helps me control myself to actually build through a 7 week meso without crashing my recovery in week 5. I usually try to maintain my target reps unless I really feel I got more in the tank and then I'll push the targets up.
If you're going 5 day full body I think the Black Adam one was probably my favorite. I think I ran that one 3 times.
The sleep improvements and recovery improvements were nuts when I first hopped on. I tracked it all with my Whoop strap and I never saw numbers Iike it. Now I think my body has acclimated to it, or my body would be much worse off without it, don't know for sure.How is this working out for you bro? I remember when you were planning to add it - I've been researching it a lot lately. It's hard to stay focused on what I'm currently taking instead of thinking of what's next
This super interesting man. There's so much medical literature about GH, they've tried it for so many things with great success. I think the info gets muddied in the BB world because of generic GH. I'm definitely keen to head how to go with it.
It does help my sleep for sure though.
Gotta get that super physiologal sleep to match the rest of your life bro. I forget, how old are you? You're pretty young still right. I know low dose is really only helpful for waning middle-aged men like myself lol. You might need a bit moreYeah I might give it a go, sleep has been pretty average lately
Cant imagine anything whooping you bro. The way you work, you're like half machine. I did 10hrs straight today outside in a snow storm and I kept thinkn this ain't shit to @toddthelineman
Left in the dark and I was still working in the dark lol. Didn't get home til dinner time. You'd have still been working
I am 34 man, probably a waning middle aged man myself haha
Yup I was outside yesterday working with a 105 pound chick until super late. The very last mile to complete for my project at home and then I get that and my final retainage check and then I’m back on the road for the foreseeable future. And it’s been the worst.
I need to stop working like this. I need to offload the work to workers so I can run my company and create more jobs. It’s pretty much pathological. Work ed until like 2am last week and got home at four. Had left home at 7am. Ridiculous
Naw you got a few good years left atleast. In your condition probably more. I was 37 when I felt my body really starting to disappoint me. My brain felt like I could still do stuff the old way and it was like my body was in slow motion or something. It was a really strange feeling.
You're in great shape so I bet you prolong that reckoning for a good while longer than me
I bet you feel amazing now though, you look great, like everyone, my only regret is not starting this lifestyle earlier haha
You ever try A.R.T or any other massage etc for your shoulder?
That's what I did for near my elbow after seeing a vid on YouTube. Worked pretty well!
I feel you on that one bro. I got sooooo lazy for so long. Took getting noticeably weak for me to finally do something about it.
I feel much better in general for sure. These last few weeks have been shit tho lol. Antibiotics and now this flu that keeps coming back. Back to being weak again lol
Naw no massages for me. Maybe I should try it. I'm hoping the peptides will fix up this issue that keeps flaring up on me once and for all.
Have you done A.R.T?
Awesome man! That's really interesting. Great to have all that data aye
I'm noticing lots of stuff from heart rate sleep monitoring, like if I go to sleep without taking my nicotine patch off my heart rate elevates by 10bpm while I'm sleeping...I say I've tried everything to fix my sleep but I never thought to try steroids!
Yeah mate. They call ART the gold standard for treatment and I would agree. Need someone who is good at it though. It's pretty straight forward really, sort of just massage while taking the muscle to a stretched position.
Well more a peptide than a steroid but tomato tomato right haha.Awesome man! That's really interesting. Great to have all that data aye
I say I've tried everything to fix my sleep but I never thought to try steroids!
Maybe I'll give that a go if this shoulder keeps acting up. Keeps getting better then flaring up again. Real pain in the ass.
I also think of @toddthelineman when I'm being lazy but ten hours working in a snow-strom is not that!! You're hardcore too bro!
And it's snowing there already?? We've had like 5 nice spring days but it's also been raining an windy and cold still too.
@toddthelineman can be lazy, believe that haha. I can picture how @BeMe works. He’s got a plan and he knows what to do. Organized and efficient and doesn’t have to stop much at all. AND THEN he basically never falls off his routine. Didn’t even miss workouts with the flu. I was much more like that when I had a normal job and a steady girl. Chaos is all I have rn so I just go hard until something stops me and then I clean up the mess. I can’t really stop or the world will roll right over me atm
Haha I try my best to be hardcore. There's definitely levels too it and @toddthelineman is peak hardcore.
Yea we're getting blasts but no real accumulation. About 40 mins north of Toronto its a winter wonderland already though.
Haha you aren't wrong. I do plan to work as efficiently as possible and I'm always going. Stopped for 20mins to eat my lunch but the rest of the day is non stop, no wasted seconds.
Chaos can be good to. When you finally settle down you appreciate the structure more. I've lived through plenty of chaos myself too and now I appreciate the lifestyle Iive. Hopefully it doesn't work in reverse and I end up as a crazy street guy again LOL
I was up and down an extension ladder in the snow all day yesterday and I kept thinkn how the fuck does Todd climb poles in this weather all day haha. My quads and glutes were burnt last night.
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2iu GH pre-bed
900mcg bpc 157 ed
2mg tb500 EOD
Yesterday was pretty rough. Almost 12 hours at work and 10hrs of non stop work through a snow storm. The wind was gusts were so bad the snow was coming down sideways. Shoulda worn my skin goggles.
Wednesday night my wife said she was feeling sick with her flu again. Sure enough halfway through the workday yesterday I started running a fever and my throat was sore. Feeling sick again today. Good news is my wife is better today so hopefully I'll be good my tomorrow.
I think my E2 might be a bit too high at the moment. First I was dealing with nipple sensitivity, now I'm holding extra water, and then I had a situation where I wasn't staying as hard as I normally am if you catch my drift. I didn't lose it all together but it felt like it was close. I was dealing with the sensitive nipples before I added in the 100mg of Deca per week for my joints.
Gonna add in a very low dose of Aromasin, 6.25mg EOD and see how I feel.
Gonna try to get some good sleep tonight before heading up North in the am to spend my Bday weekend with the whole family.
Current Dosing
70mg test EOD
100mg Deca per week
2iu GH pre-bed
900mcg bpc 157 ed
2mg tb500 EOD
Yesterday was pretty rough. Almost 12 hours at work and 10hrs of non stop work through a snow storm. The wind was gusts were so bad the snow was coming down sideways. Shoulda worn my skin goggles.
Wednesday night my wife said she was feeling sick with her flu again. Sure enough halfway through the workday yesterday I started running a fever and my throat was sore. Feeling sick again today. Good news is my wife is better today so hopefully I'll be good my tomorrow.
I think my E2 might be a bit too high at the moment. First I was dealing with nipple sensitivity, now I'm holding extra water, and then I had a situation where I wasn't staying as hard as I normally am if you catch my drift. I didn't lose it all together but it felt like it was close. I was dealing with the sensitive nipples before I added in the 100mg of Deca per week for my joints.
Gonna add in a very low dose of Aromasin, 6.25mg EOD and see how I feel.
Gonna try to get some good sleep tonight before heading up North in the am to spend my Bday weekend with the whole family.
Hahaha well. When I first started it was basically killing me. I had sores in the corners of my mouth and my hands were always cramped. I had to use the line to pry my fingers open everyday for years. Didn’t matter how much fluid I drank or electrolytes. But my legs were already bullet proof from a solid year of just pulling my ass off. That used to have my quads cramping so bad. It took years for me to hit my peak of strength and endurance as a climber. It’s so abusive to work like that with so few rest days. Tbh I have no idea how I did it either. No way I could climb 100+ poles a day back to back to back right now. That would be a life threatening effort. But I used to do it without too much drama
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@BeMe 12 hours at work! non stop work you're hardcore.
you ok?
can you try dropping the deca please? might be a DHN issue
and do you have proviron?
@Fusion Canada get this man some proviron
i wouldn't do that, lets start with the deca/proviron fix
get sleep and enjoy the birthday weekend can you please post on your bday just 'my bday' so we can all congratulate you
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Still good whoop numbers even with the load on your body, GH doing you good, happy birthday for then mate, keen to see how you go with the aromasin
Vertical climbing really takes it outta ya. Do you use one of those belts around the pole so you can lean back to work when you get to the top?Hahaha well. When I first started it was basically killing me. I had sores in the corners of my mouth and my hands were always cramped. I had to use the line to pry my fingers open everyday for years. Didn’t matter how much fluid I drank or electrolytes. But my legs were already bullet proof from a solid year of just pulling my ass off. That used to have my quads cramping so bad. It took years for me to hit my peak of strength and endurance as a climber. It’s so abusive to work like that with so few rest days. Tbh I have no idea how I did it either. No way I could climb 100+ poles a day back to back to back right now. That would be a life threatening effort. But I used to do it without too much drama
With ladders I find it's the standing still on the ladder up top that really gets me. Stiffen up so much cuz you can't move around much and keep the blood flowing
Yep I have lots of Proviron on hand. Can I keep the deca in and add the Proviron? @LevButlerovsteady dose
12 hours at work! non stop work you're hardcore.
you ok?
can you try dropping the deca please? might be a DHN issue
and do you have proviron?
@Fusion Canada get this man some proviron
i wouldn't do that, lets start with the deca/proviron fix
get sleep and enjoy the birthday weekend can you please post on your bday just 'my bday' so we can all congratulate you
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I plan on running Proviron at 25mg daily anyway with my Tren.
I wasn't too worried about a DHN issue cuz it's only 100mg and I've only been running it a few weeks. But I had the nipple sensitivity well before any of it and I thought maybe I was a bit watery cuz of the antibiotics. The water factor has gotten a fair bit worse tho since the deca. The ed scare was the 3rd issue so made me think I need a little bit of ai. Last check on e2 was end of September, same dose as now, 134pmol
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Around 200mg/week was always your TRT dose from memory? Is this the first time you've had the E2 symptoms at that dose?
Yeah, climbing belt with D rings and a positioning belt around the pole. You can let the belt out or clip just one side so you can lean really far, which is brutal on your abs hahaha. Getting something heavy out there can have you literally screaming it burns bad if you aren’t doing it all the time. We’re forced to use ladders sometimes and it can be ridiculously awkward because the ladder is laying on what you’re working on and you’re bracing backwards instead of with your abs. Sometimes you can have the ground guys help you with ropes and pulleys, but if you’re very confident on a pole you can finesse it and it’s really fun and impressive looking. Ladders… never fun hahaha. And then you have to carry it again
. I used to sling around a 40’ hook ladder, if I had to do that now I… just wouldn’t hahaha. I’d find a way to get the truck there or I’d drop the line off the pole, do the work and hoist it back onto the pole. I just got in from jamming a bunch of cable through a few thousand feet of crappy conduit with a chick helping me. It’s kinda crazy how hard single moms will work for a few hundred bucks
. It’s a whiteout blizzard rn and we needed to get the cable in the ground before it all got buried by the plows. She showed up with full snowmobile gear hahaha. We got the worst of it done before the wind got way too stupid and it’s a holiday weekend and all the drunk people are out drifting in the neighborhoods. Not worth itAttachments
Highly suspect the deca. Blood pressure still good with it, yes? It’ll take a long time for the deca to leave your body so I like your idea of keeping it but adding proviron first. You’ll know if it’s going to work (probably will!) right away but if it doesn’t you can drop the deca
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we can try it just bump proviron 50mgs and see
try 50mgs
@BeMeWe are doing a lot of guess work but its not always high e2 could be dht/dhn mix issue as well. Especially with deca.
Get some tadalafil 5mgs eod.
Happy birthday bro!!!
Yea normally I run 180-200 and everything is all good but now I'm 70mg EOD so roughly 250ish. Naw at 200 was upper range and only real change was slightly softer emotionally haha. Sad things in movies can actually get me sometimes lol
Funny thing is everything was back working perfect last night. Maybe it was a mental thing. I took half an aromasin last night so maybe that just cleared my head LOLHighly suspect the deca. Blood pressure still good with it, yes? It’ll take a long time for the deca to leave your body so I like your idea of keeping it but adding proviron first. You’ll know if it’s going to work (probably will!) right away but if it doesn’t you can drop the deca
Actually everything worked really well last night. Like REALLY well LOL. I took half an aromasin and boom. So maybe semi ED was just a psychological thing. Stressing about the water retention and sensitive nips maybe caused me to fabricate a false ED emergency in my brain?we can try it just bump proviron 50mgs and see
try 50mgs
We are doing a lot of guess work but its not always high e2 could be dht/dhn mix issue as well. Especially with deca.
Get some tadalafil 5mgs eod.
I do really wanna keep the deca on cuz my knees have been really bugging me this last month and a bit. I really haven't been pounding legs in my training either. It's a bitch.
Thanks. Although at this age who's really counting anymore lol.
Crying in movies and feeling soft emotionally is e2 bro. That aromasin seems to have done the trick and got you "hard" again (pun intended)
Totally agree. I don't count shit anymore the older I'm aware I am the harder I wanna go. Probably an ominous undertaking but I try and operate like Goggins and roll like Jocko.
Log Day 226
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70mg test EOD
100mg Deca per week
2iu GH pre-bed
900mcg bpc 157 ed
2mg tb500 EOD
Stupid flu is back dragging me down again. My brother was saying he took 2 weeks to beat it. My wife is feeling pretty much all better now and her immune system is usually weak compared to mine so hopefully I'll be good after this weekend off.
I thought I should take the night off training last night but then I thought naw let's get after it. Maybe a good sweat and pump will help clear the system out. Felt a bit feverish during training but felt good afterwards. Slept like a baby last night too. Definitely feeling better today compared to yesterday. I'm actually gonna skip a day of training and get a proper rest day on my Bday tomorrow. Hopefully that will be the key to turning all this around and feeling totally healthy and normal again.
Up north again spending time with the family. I'll get some pics this weekend to share. Today was a bit of a busy one finishing up the last of the winterizing work outside.
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70mg test EOD
100mg Deca per week
2iu GH pre-bed
900mcg bpc 157 ed
2mg tb500 EOD
Stupid flu is back dragging me down again. My brother was saying he took 2 weeks to beat it. My wife is feeling pretty much all better now and her immune system is usually weak compared to mine so hopefully I'll be good after this weekend off.
I thought I should take the night off training last night but then I thought naw let's get after it. Maybe a good sweat and pump will help clear the system out. Felt a bit feverish during training but felt good afterwards. Slept like a baby last night too. Definitely feeling better today compared to yesterday. I'm actually gonna skip a day of training and get a proper rest day on my Bday tomorrow. Hopefully that will be the key to turning all this around and feeling totally healthy and normal again.
Up north again spending time with the family. I'll get some pics this weekend to share. Today was a bit of a busy one finishing up the last of the winterizing work outside.
Bro that's a good workout with a fever and chills, I love it!
No shame in this... listen to your body. You're more addicted to all of this than I am so it's tough to have to gear down but you'll repair better for next workout
I'm looking forward to this I like our personal "life" pics on here. Have a great birthday evening and Sunday up there bro.
It'll probably be obvious once you answer, but what do you have to do to prepare for winter?
Yeah, climbing belt with D rings and a positioning belt around the pole. You can let the belt out or clip just one side so you can lean really far, which is brutal on your abs hahaha. Getting something heavy out there can have you literally screaming it burns bad if you aren’t doing it all the time. We’re forced to use ladders sometimes and it can be ridiculously awkward because the ladder is laying on what you’re working on and you’re bracing backwards instead of with your abs. Sometimes you can have the ground guys help you with ropes and pulleys, but if you’re very confident on a pole you can finesse it and it’s really fun and impressive looking. Ladders… never fun hahaha. And then you have to carry it again
This is insane bro!!! Very fucking cool and no wonder you're so sliced doing all that!!
The things in your body are always fluctuating right? Glad it worked for you hahaha
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If it worked well thats all high e2
so you're GTG @BeMe if you want to keep deca lets keep it.
and happy Birthday our EVO brother
Basically put away all the fun stuff lol. Docks, boats, lifts, outdoor furniture, pull pumps, winterize outdoor water lines, goes on and on really. Then gotta get ready for winter so plow goes on the 4 wheeler, prep the blower, that kinda stuff. All good to go now just in time too. Woke up to this lol
Really Aromasin can work in a few hours?If it worked well thats all high e2
if you want to keep deca lets keep it.
and happy Birthday our EVO brother
Thanks for the Birthday wishes bro!
Hey Fam today my Birthday. 41 years young today lol.
This is my first Birthday celebrated as part of the EVO fam which makes it a very memorable one. Just wanna say thanks to everyone for all the help and support throughout this year. It's really been the best year I can remember and EVO has been a massive part of that!
This is my first Birthday celebrated as part of the EVO fam which makes it a very memorable one. Just wanna say thanks to everyone for all the help and support throughout this year. It's really been the best year I can remember and EVO has been a massive part of that!
I got my lift out but my dock is still in
Happy birthday bro!!!
Happy birthday mate! Hope you have a good day!
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At least mentally for sure fast
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looks beautiful
I’ll second that. Half an aromasin chills my nipples out super fast. I once suspected I was having anxiety from high e2 as well and it worked. Placebo maaaaaaybe but it did work same dayAt least mentally for sure fast
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its fairly fast actually
Yea I fi it was all placebo. Didn't even bother looking up the mecahnis of action for Aromasin cuz I didn't wanna ruin the effects I got LOL
Ok Fam this will be my last post in this log as I close it up.
Had a great Birthday today. Honestly at my age I'd kind of gotten to the point where birthdays don't really matter anymore. But I have to say all the wishes from you guys and spending time with my little nieces and nephews kinda got me into it again.
Played outside in the snow for over an hour with my 3 year old niece, just me and her. We made a snowman, snow angels, and got my cardio in pretending to be Rudolph towing her around in a sled. I was surprised how long I was able to run in snow with her in tow.
Came in to a great dinner and had a Bday cake prepared by my niece and wife. My little niece helped make the cake batter, icing, and she decorated the cake pretty much by herself. Seeing how proud she was made it the best bday cake ever and I had to have a little piece. All and all a great day.
Look forward to seeing all you guys in my next log.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-deca-tren-hgh-cardarine-cycle-log.107943/
Had a great Birthday today. Honestly at my age I'd kind of gotten to the point where birthdays don't really matter anymore. But I have to say all the wishes from you guys and spending time with my little nieces and nephews kinda got me into it again.
Played outside in the snow for over an hour with my 3 year old niece, just me and her. We made a snowman, snow angels, and got my cardio in pretending to be Rudolph towing her around in a sled. I was surprised how long I was able to run in snow with her in tow.
Came in to a great dinner and had a Bday cake prepared by my niece and wife. My little niece helped make the cake batter, icing, and she decorated the cake pretty much by herself. Seeing how proud she was made it the best bday cake ever and I had to have a little piece. All and all a great day.
Look forward to seeing all you guys in my next log.
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Sound like an awesome day!
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beautiful place to play for bday
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Sounds like an awesome day man, Happy birthday to you, and I will be following your next log, we will be starting one around the same time, enjoy your day legend.
This made me smile brother. You deserved a day like this.
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