Approved Log Pre Cycle Training Lifestyle Log

[bullybreed]

how much are you taking ibuprofen? @bullybreed

Heaps, but i think its ok cause ive been shelving it.

 

[Freki]

Heaps, but i think its ok cause ive been shelving it.

Bypasses the Liver

 

[bullybreed]

Bypasses the Liver

That was my thinking bro, what you reckon? See wha if rfk has a tik toc on it maybe?

 

[LevButlerov]

Heaps, but i think its ok cause ive been shelving it.

smart its best to avoid pain killer they kill the gut biome

 

[LevButlerov]

Oops now your in trouble @bullybreed .
Go get him @LevButlerov

LOL

 

[bullybreed]

smart its best to avoid pain killer they kill the gut biome

Bro i’m taking the piss, my shelving days are long gone, sydney in the 90s was quite a scene.

Was taking 6 every 24 hours first week, second week 2 with breakfast, 2 before bed and now 2 before work outs to try and nip any inflammation in the bud before it begins, so hopefully next week off them all together.

All orally.

 

[LevButlerov]

Bro i’m taking the piss, my shelving days are long gone, sydney in the 90s was quite a scene.

Was taking 6 every 24 hours first week, second week 2 with breakfast, 2 before bed and now 2 before work outs to try and nip any inflammation in the bud before it begins, so hopefully next week off them all together.

All orally.

Start boosting probiotics and prebiotics to rebuild gut health after, what do you take daily for digestion now? @bullybreed

 

[bullybreed]

Start boosting probiotics and prebiotics to rebuild gut health after, what do you take daily for digestion now? @bullybreed

Not too much man, just chewing food well?

Could substitute a shake for some yoghurt?

 

[LevButlerov]

Not too much man, just chewing food well?

Could substitute a shake for some yoghurt?

You need to get probiotics with each meal and get psyllium husk ED they arent expensive.

 

[Freki]

You need to get probiotics with each meal and get psyllium husk ED they arent expensive.

Probiotics over here are stupid expensive but agreed they def help

 

[LevButlerov]

Probiotics over here are stupid expensive but agreed they def help

Its your health, that one is worth the money

 

[Freki]

Its your health, that one is worth the money

Agreed

 

[bullybreed]

Probiotics over here are stupid expensive but agreed they def help

What about yakult? That’s pretty cheap.

 

[Freki]

What about yakult? That’s pretty cheap.

Personally Im not a fan, its a single strain culture, ill have to do a bit more of a deep dive on it.
Im under the assumption it should be quite a diverse Mix

 

[LevButlerov]

What about yakult? That’s pretty cheap.

its trash

Personally Im not a fan, its a single strain culture, ill have to do a bit more of a deep dive on it.
Im under the assumption it should be quite a diverse Mix

100% right @Freki total waste

 

[Freki]

How's the back treating you @bullybreed

 

[bullybreed]

How's the back treating you @bullybreed

Hey mate.
Training is consistent but basic, not increasing weight on lifts and keeping movements simple and safe, def no squats or pulling moments that risk something uncoordinated happening.
Twice daily stretching and SI joint movement exercises, have dropped chiropractor this week as it’s not helping improvement at this stage.
Food is on point still, same meals and holding my weight at 80-82kgs.
Maintaining good lean muscle with this approach.
Using tb500 and bpc157, may be helping but not a miracle. Will order some Klow when this supply is running out.
It is improving day to day, morning is still fairly awful, putting on pants and socks first thing is still hard but have gone from having to lay down and get wife to help to almost being able to do it like a normal person.

I could be delaying full recovery while still lifting but hopefully i’ve found the happy medium, but it’s definitely frustrating not being able to trying to progress lifts and im missing making myself sick doing squats or deadlifts, but maybe approaching 45 it could be time to call it on these….

I think i’ll keep this approach till after my January holiday and the extra rest then fingers crossed will be 100%

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey mate.
Training is consistent but basic, not increasing weight on lifts and keeping movements simple and safe, def no squats or pulling moments that risk something uncoordinated happening.
Twice daily stretching and SI joint movement exercises, have dropped chiropractor this week as it’s not helping improvement at this stage.
Food is on point still, same meals and holding my weight at 80-82kgs.
Maintaining good lean muscle with this approach.
Using tb500 and bpc157, may be helping but not a miracle. Will order some Klow when this supply is running out.
It is improving day to day, morning is still fairly awful, putting on pants and socks first thing is still hard but have gone from having to lay down and get wife to help to almost being able to do it like a normal person.

I could be delaying full recovery while still lifting but hopefully i’ve found the happy medium, but it’s definitely frustrating not being able to trying to progress lifts and im missing making myself sick doing squats or deadlifts, but maybe approaching 45 it could be time to call it on these….

I think i’ll keep this approach till after my January holiday and the extra rest then fingers crossed will be 100%

good to see you update how is the peptide dose now?

 

[bullybreed]

good to see you update how is the peptide dose now?

It’s 2ml bac water in each vile and 1 unit of each before bed.

 

[Freki]

Hey mate.
Training is consistent but basic, not increasing weight on lifts and keeping movements simple and safe, def no squats or pulling moments that risk something uncoordinated happening.
Twice daily stretching and SI joint movement exercises, have dropped chiropractor this week as it’s not helping improvement at this stage.
Food is on point still, same meals and holding my weight at 80-82kgs.
Maintaining good lean muscle with this approach.
Using tb500 and bpc157, may be helping but not a miracle. Will order some Klow when this supply is running out.
It is improving day to day, morning is still fairly awful, putting on pants and socks first thing is still hard but have gone from having to lay down and get wife to help to almost being able to do it like a normal person.

I could be delaying full recovery while still lifting but hopefully i’ve found the happy medium, but it’s definitely frustrating not being able to trying to progress lifts and im missing making myself sick doing squats or deadlifts, but maybe approaching 45 it could be time to call it on these….

I think i’ll keep this approach till after my January holiday and the extra rest then fingers crossed will be 100%

Farrrk really copped it this time hey. There is no right approach unfortunately, I mean hopefully the break helps as well but backs are just shit. I suppose at least you can get your socks on now.

 

[LevButlerov]

It’s 2ml bac water in each vile and 1 unit of each before bed.

not sure whats the dose on it? mcg ED @bullybreed

 

[bullybreed]

not sure whats the dose on it? mcg ED @bullybreed

Sorry bro, i’m not sure mcg either, i’m just under wolfinsteins instruction, so i’m sure it’s standard dose for anti inflammatory properties.

 

[Allupfromhere]

not sure whats the dose on it? mcg ED @bullybreed

500mcg of each @LevButlerov

 

[Allupfromhere]

Farrrk really copped it this time hey. There is no right approach unfortunately, I mean hopefully the break helps as well but backs are just shit. I suppose at least you can get your socks on now.

Starting to worry that this was a bit worse then originally thought. Not good @bullybreed just keep taking it steady brother dont want to hit the restart but this late again from training too much.

 

[LevButlerov]

500mcg of each @LevButlerov

I missed that, thats fine thanks @Allupfromhere

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry bro, i’m not sure mcg either, i’m just under wolfinsteins instruction, so i’m sure it’s standard dose for anti inflammatory properties.

I saw it was 500mcg thanks to @Allupfromhere
@bullybreed you added bone broth and collagen and high vitamin C?

 

[bullybreed]

Starting to worry that this was a bit worse then originally thought. Not good @bullybreed just keep taking it steady brother dont want to hit the restart but this late again from training too much.

Thanks mate, definitely not able to send it yet. I think i’m fairly safe at my modified 6 day push pull legs, lifting to about 2 reps left over being very safe, slow and strict, all risky movements dropped but still getting a pump, but definitely haven’t visited the dark place for a while.
Food on point so still looking ok.
Will keep this approach up with twice daily stretching and lower back movements for rest of year.

 

[bullybreed]

I saw it was 500mcg thanks to @Allupfromhere
@bullybreed you added bone broth and collagen and high vitamin C?

Hey Lev, no collagen, gotta consider budget unfortunately mate, with bills and kids ill prioritise buying the peptides instead of collagen.
I got vitamin C as part of vitamins, and i haven’t made bone broth yet. Fo you make it or buy it like soup stock?

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey Lev, no collagen, gotta consider budget unfortunately mate, with bills and kids ill prioritise buying the peptides instead of collagen.
I got vitamin C as part of vitamins, and i haven’t made bone broth yet. Fo you make it or buy it like soup stock?

sorry I forget you said budget issues.
If you can lets get some bones and boil them out, for budget its the best, bones are cheap and you can make your own broth @bullybreed

 

[bullybreed]

sorry I forget you said budget issues.
If you can lets get some bones and boil them out, for budget its the best, bones are cheap and you can make your own broth @bullybreed

Sweet, good idea mate.

 

[LevButlerov]

Sweet, good idea mate.

lets do it and get pics up

 

[bullybreed]

Small up date because i’ve achieved slight progress.
Legs session today started on V squat machine 80kg x15 reps for 4 sets atg. This is only 50% of my normal v squat weight but still felt really good to squat below parallel, not pain, slightly loaded up around joints and tender as it’s been an age since i’ve been down there, see how i feel tomorrow but so far feeling good, i’ll take this as a win.

Sorry Lev, no bone broth at the moment, hopefully will get some time in kitchen on weekend.

Also running low on TB and BPC so i have an order in with Mr. Peptide aka @Wolfenstein for 2 x Klow which should keep me going to holidays.

 

[LevButlerov]

Small up date because i’ve achieved slight progress.
Legs session today started on V squat machine 80kg x15 reps for 4 sets atg. This is only 50% of my normal v squat weight but still felt really good to squat below parallel, not pain, slightly loaded up around joints and tender as it’s been an age since i’ve been down there, see how i feel tomorrow but so far feeling good, i’ll take this as a win.

Sorry Lev, no bone broth at the moment, hopefully will get some time in kitchen on weekend.

Also running low on TB and BPC so i have an order in with Mr. Peptide aka @Wolfenstein for 2 x Klow which should keep me going to holidays.

good update and thats a good rep range for squats, good to see you leveling in there again!
how is your food so far? minus the broth

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@toddthelineman @Noah Wixx

 

[Dreamer]

Small up date because i’ve achieved slight progress.
Legs session today started on V squat machine 80kg x15 reps for 4 sets atg. This is only 50% of my normal v squat weight but still felt really good to squat below parallel, not pain, slightly loaded up around joints and tender as it’s been an age since i’ve been down there, see how i feel tomorrow but so far feeling good, i’ll take this as a win.

Sorry Lev, no bone broth at the moment, hopefully will get some time in kitchen on weekend.

Also running low on TB and BPC so i have an order in with Mr. Peptide aka @Wolfenstein for 2 x Klow which should keep me going to holidays.

Hopefully you recover well, but progress is progress - well done

 

[waggat]

Small up date because i’ve achieved slight progress.
Legs session today started on V squat machine 80kg x15 reps for 4 sets atg. This is only 50% of my normal v squat weight but still felt really good to squat below parallel, not pain, slightly loaded up around joints and tender as it’s been an age since i’ve been down there, see how i feel tomorrow but so far feeling good, i’ll take this as a win.

Sorry Lev, no bone broth at the moment, hopefully will get some time in kitchen on weekend.

Also running low on TB and BPC so i have an order in with Mr. Peptide aka @Wolfenstein for 2 x Klow which should keep me going to holidays.

Geez mate.... good weight for 15 reps at 50% on the V Squat. Not sure if yours is the same as mine (Hammer Strength) but I'm not sure I'd get 15 reps with 80kg.

 

[Freki]

Small up date because i’ve achieved slight progress.
Legs session today started on V squat machine 80kg x15 reps for 4 sets atg. This is only 50% of my normal v squat weight but still felt really good to squat below parallel, not pain, slightly loaded up around joints and tender as it’s been an age since i’ve been down there, see how i feel tomorrow but so far feeling good, i’ll take this as a win.

Sorry Lev, no bone broth at the moment, hopefully will get some time in kitchen on weekend.

Also running low on TB and BPC so i have an order in with Mr. Peptide aka @Wolfenstein for 2 x Klow which should keep me going to holidays.

Great to here
Still walking the dogs daily?

 

[bullybreed]

good update and thats a good rep range for squats, good to see you leveling in there again!
how is your food so far? minus the broth

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@toddthelineman @Noah Wixx

Food on point mate, still same 5 meals, just dropped my extra meal until i’m back at progressive overload.
Approximately 4000 Calories but changed macros to 40p 40f 20c by adjusting portion sizes.

 

[bullybreed]

Geez mate.... good weight for 15 reps at 50% on the V Squat. Not sure if yours is the same as mine (Hammer Strength) but I'm not sure I'd get 15 reps with 80kg.

Yeah gym has hammer strength equipment.
80x15 feeling good but still nowhere back to visiting the dark place @Allupfromhere

 

[bullybreed]

Great to here
Still walking the dogs daily?

Hey mate, yeah dogs getting double up on daily walks cause they ain’t getting their tug a war games unfortunately, they ain’t impressed missing out in that department.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Yeah gym has hammer strength equipment.
80x15 feeling good but still nowhere back to visiting the dark place @Allupfromhere

Give things time brother see the rest of the year out recovering and focus on being back to where you need early next year.

 

[LevButlerov]

Food on point mate, still same 5 meals, just dropped my extra meal until i’m back at progressive overload.
Approximately 4000 Calories but changed macros to 40p 40f 20c by adjusting portion sizes.

not bad at all hopefully you start moving macros up

 

[bullybreed]

6 workouts again this week, modified to suit injury. Legs today, i dropped the v squat machine because my hips and lower back felt slightly tight and loaded after last legs with v squat machine.

Update photo for during injury recovery, still keeping it fairly honest i think.

 

[LevButlerov]

6 workouts again this week, modified to suit injury. Legs today, i dropped the v squat machine because my hips and lower back felt slightly tight and loaded after last legs with v squat machine.

Update photo for during injury recovery, still keeping it fairly honest i think.

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6 workouts well done @bullybreed you're looking lean love the abs

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@toddthelineman

 

[bullybreed]

6 workouts well done @bullybreed you're looking lean love the abs

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@toddthelineman

Cheers mate, yeah second straight week at push pull legs x 2, weights are moderate, leaning 2 or 3 reps in the bank to make sure form is 100% and other then some slight tightness in the hip flexors and lower back muscles the SI joints feeling not to bad.

 

[Freki]

6 workouts again this week, modified to suit injury. Legs today, i dropped the v squat machine because my hips and lower back felt slightly tight and loaded after last legs with v squat machine.

Update photo for during injury recovery, still keeping it fairly honest i think.

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6 workouts is great,
Conditioning is still good, going to take a hammering with chrissy and the Holiday coming up,

 

[Dreamer]

6 workouts again this week, modified to suit injury. Legs today, i dropped the v squat machine because my hips and lower back felt slightly tight and loaded after last legs with v squat machine.

Update photo for during injury recovery, still keeping it fairly honest i think.

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Looking solid man, 6 workouts is a great workrate!

 

[bullybreed]

6 workouts is great,
Conditioning is still good, going to take a hammering with chrissy and the Holiday coming up,

Cheers mate, volume and out put has definitely dropped off, but maybe that suits my metabolism, when full recovered and can up the weights might look at just hitting some compound movements with 2 working sets, maybe look at spending a max of 45 minutes in gym.

 

[LevButlerov]

go slow as you hit legs more be careful please

Cheers mate, yeah second straight week at push pull legs x 2, weights are moderate, leaning 2 or 3 reps in the bank to make sure form is 100% and other then some slight tightness in the hip flexors and lower back muscles the SI joints feeling not to bad.

 

[Freki]

volume and out put has definitely dropped off, but maybe that suits my metabolism, when full recovered and can up the weights might look at just hitting some compound movements with 2 working sets,

Def give it a go, Im down to 1 working set now, still smashes the muscles just way less fatigue. Takes an hr still, as I take every rep slow including the warmups. Mind - muscle is really on point.

 

[bullybreed]

go slow as you hit legs more be careful please

Being real careful mate, definitely not gonna stuff up before going away.

 

[bullybreed]

Def give it a go, Im down to 1 working set now, still smashes the muscles just way less fatigue. Takes an hr still, as I take every rep slow including the warmups. Mind - muscle is really on point.

Sounds good mate, i guess i go for volume because i don’t lift heavy to avoid injury, but with proper mind muscle for 1 quality set body should be able to hold up when fully recovered.

 

[waggat]

Cheers mate, yeah second straight week at push pull legs x 2, weights are moderate, leaning 2 or 3 reps in the bank to make sure form is 100% and other then some slight tightness in the hip flexors and lower back muscles the SI joints feeling not to bad.

When you're fully getting after it do you still do the PPL 6 days a week?

 

[bullybreed]

When you're fully getting after it do you still do the PPL 6 days a week?

Hey mate, yeah that’s what i was doing. Maybe this time when i can lift to failure again i might dumb it down and really work on 1 quality working set and focus on compound movements.

 

[LevButlerov]

Being real careful mate, definitely not gonna stuff up before going away.

most injuries are shoulder elbow btw

 

[bullybreed]

most injuries are shoulder elbow btw

Lower back for me mate, working under stuff in weird positions lifting heavy parts for 30 years hasn’t helped…

 

[LevButlerov]

Lower back for me mate, working under stuff in weird positions lifting heavy parts for 30 years hasn’t helped…

hopefully you got a red light on it?

 

[waggat]

Hey mate, yeah that’s what i was doing. Maybe this time when i can lift to failure again i might dumb it down and really work on 1 quality working set and focus on compound movements.

Yeah I guess it's a matter of figuring out what you can recover from. Six days a week with high volume probably doesn't work for most.

 

[HarleyGuy]

6 workouts again this week, modified to suit injury. Legs today, i dropped the v squat machine because my hips and lower back felt slightly tight and loaded after last legs with v squat machine.

Update photo for during injury recovery, still keeping it fairly honest i think.

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Bro, looking jacked! 6 workouts a week is intense man.

How's the probiotic coming along? I bet your gut is right fucked up at the moment. I slam 20g psyllium husk before each meal too with apple cider vinegar.

 

[bullybreed]

Bro, looking jacked! 6 workouts a week is intense man.

How's the probiotic coming along? I bet your gut is right fucked up at the moment. I slam 20g psyllium husk before each meal too with apple cider vinegar.

I’m pretty low maintenance mate, my guts and digestion pretty good.
I’m usually at 6 workouts a week pre injury so good to be getting back there. I don’t really lift heavy so rely on volume for my workouts.
Might mix it up when fully recovered.

 

[Allupfromhere]

6 workouts again this week, modified to suit injury. Legs today, i dropped the v squat machine because my hips and lower back felt slightly tight and loaded after last legs with v squat machine.

Update photo for during injury recovery, still keeping it fairly honest i think.

View attachment 151218

Geesuz big boy looking thick for someone cruising through training.. thought you said your struggling to put on size hahaha.

Def give it a go, Im down to 1 working set now, still smashes the muscles just way less fatigue. Takes an hr still, as I take every rep slow including the warmups. Mind - muscle is really on point.

 

[bullybreed]

Geesuz big boy looking thick for someone cruising through training.. thought you said your struggling to put on size hahaha.

Cheers my man, like i said to freki maybe the lower intensity/lower volume is suiting whatever my body does, still at the 81-82kg mark, the 3iu growth is helping keep the fat of but its close to time to give that a rest, my hands are definitely suffering from the fluid and it’s at the almost point where it’s affecting normal life. I’ll finish off my open vile and give it a rest, and as i said to you gonna do a proper fastest blood test after holiday to check the insulin sensitivity back to normal.

 

[Freki]

Cheers my man, like i said to freki maybe the lower intensity/lower volume is suiting whatever my body does, still at the 81-82kg mark, the 3iu growth is helping keep the fat of but its close to time to give that a rest, my hands are definitely suffering from the fluid and it’s at the almost point where it’s affecting normal life. I’ll finish off my open vile and give it a rest, and as i said to you gonna do a proper fastest blood test after holiday to check the insulin sensitivity back to normal.

If it is affecting your day to day then yes i'd drop it.
3Iu is still low dose, how much sodium do you consume?
Could try upping your potassium intake as well

 

[bullybreed]

If it is affecting your day to day then yes i'd drop it.
3Iu is still low dose, how much sodium do you consume?
Could try upping your potassium intake as well

Guilty of not counting things like sodium. I don’t add salt to meals and with my meals i don’t believe my intake is high.

I’m on my 5th vial of s growth at 3iu daily, how long to people normally run growth before taking a rest from it?

When i say it’s affecting day to day i’ve felt the fluid retention for a while but over the last week or 2 it’s changed to slight pain with carpal tunnel and some tingling in morning on waking.
Do i drop right away or finish the week or 2 left in the open vial?

 

[Freki]

Guilty of not counting things like sodium. I don’t add salt to meals and with my meals i don’t believe my intake is high.

I’m on my 5th vial of s growth at 3iu daily, how long to people normally run growth before taking a rest from it?

When i say it’s affecting day to day i’ve felt the fluid retention for a while but over the last week or 2 it’s changed to slight pain with carpal tunnel and some tingling in morning on waking.
Do i drop right away or finish the week or 2 left in the open vial?

Id drop it for a few days, then start again at 2iu.

Hgh is a long game, you generally stay on it, but that doesn't matter, if your sleep if affected. If it affects sleep it gets cut.

How do you not add salt, I love it. No point in me tracking it I know its to high

 

[bullybreed]

Id drop it for a few days, then start again at 2iu.

Hgh is a long game, you generally stay on it, but that doesn't matter, if your sleep if affected. If it affects sleep it gets cut.

How do you not add salt, I love it. No point in me tracking it I know its to high

Cheers mate.
No dramas with the sleep, probably helps.

Love salt too mate, sacrifices we make hey.

 

[Freki]

How's the all inclusive?