Approved Log Peptides Recovery Log for Osteitis Pubis - BPC157 + TB500

[apolx]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

 

[LevButlerov]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

welcome fully to the EVO family @apolx thanks for sharing! can you please add pics of you face blurred so we can see your base, we need to understand you better. Start there and we move to log approval after.

 

[apolx]

welcome fully to the EVO family @apolx thanks for sharing! can you please add pics of you face blurred so we can see your base, we need to understand you better. Start there and we move to log approval after.

Not really looking for aesthetic gains but here's a pic anyway

 

[HarleyGuy]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

Thanks for posting your pic bro, your log will be put in the que for approval and we got your back! It's nice to see you've done your research and you're obviously a gym bro for sure. This log will definitely help your recovery and injury and I'm also happy to hear you're staying off the injury until you're pain free very wise move!

Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.

Because you're injured I'd double this dose if you can afford it and you can do it twice a day as well. I healed my tendons due to an armwrestling injury with these peptides and it took a minimum of 8 weeks so I would consider that the minimum length of time to use it.

It's best to pin BPC as close to the injury as possible and in your case coincidentally the lower ab subQ will work for you. Go as low as you can pinning in this area.

Looking forward to following along and getting this all healed up! Then we can turn this into an Ironman prep log!

 

[apolx]

Thanks for posting your pic bro, your log will be put in the que for approval and we got your back! It's nice to see you've done your research and you're obviously a gym bro for sure. This log will definitely help your recovery and injury and I'm also happy to hear you're staying off the injury until you're pain free very wise move!


Because you're injured I'd double this dose if you can afford it and you can do it twice a day as well. I healed my tendons due to an armwrestling injury with these peptides and it took a minimum of 8 weeks so I would consider that the minimum length of time to use it.

It's best to pin BPC as close to the injury as possible and in your case coincidentally the lower ab subQ will work for you. Go as low as you can pinning in this area.

Looking forward to following along and getting this all healed up! Then we can turn this into an Ironman prep log!

Cheers bro, sound advice - I'm a bit risk adverse at the best of times haha so I reckon I'll start with a conservative dose for now for 8 weeks, then if I'm still feeling pain might take 4 weeks off then double the dose as you said?

I've got until June to do the Ironman so hopefully plenty of time to make a full recovery - good news is i can focus on swimming and cycling for now (which i need more than running)

 

[HarleyGuy]

Cheers bro, sound advice - I'm a bit risk adverse at the best of times haha so I reckon I'll start with a conservative dose for now for 8 weeks, then if I'm still feeling pain might take 4 weeks off then double the dose as you said?

I've got until June to do the Ironman so hopefully plenty of time to make a full recovery - good news is i can focus on swimming and cycling for now (which i need more than running)

This sounds like a good plan except for the 4 weeks off. You'll wanna keep yourself 'saturated' with the compound and let it work it's magic, then after 8 weeks if you're still getting pain just go right into 500mcg/500mcg for another 4 weeks.

We're gonna want get this taken care of ASAP if the Ironman is as soon as June. I'd even budget to keep those peptides on board while you train for it (at the lower dose for recovery and prevention). They're great for an injury at higher doses but an Ironman and training for it is grueling so you'd be doing yourself a favour with BPC/TB on board leading up to the Ironman.

 

[apolx]

This sounds like a good plan except for the 4 weeks off. You'll wanna keep yourself 'saturated' with the compound and let it work it's magic, then after 8 weeks if you're still getting pain just go right into 500mcg/500mcg for another 4 weeks.

We're gonna want get this taken care of ASAP if the Ironman is as soon as June. I'd even budget to keep those peptides on board while you train for it (at the lower dose for recovery and prevention). They're great for an injury at higher doses but an Ironman and training for it is grueling so you'd be doing yourself a favour with BPC/TB on board leading up to the Ironman.

Ooh I didn't know that, I thought you had to "cycle" these or at least take a break occasionally. If I see/feel good results I'd be more than happy to keep a maintenance dose for recovery and prevention for sure. Been training pretty hard in the triathlon disciplines for 6 months and man do I feel wrecked 24/7 compared to my old gym bro days! Grueling is an understatement!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ooh I didn't know that, I thought you had to "cycle" these or at least take a break occasionally. If I see/feel good results I'd be more than happy to keep a maintenance dose for recovery and prevention for sure. Been training pretty hard in the triathlon disciplines for 6 months and man do I feel wrecked 24/7 compared to my old gym bro days! Grueling is an understatement!

Some peptides do in fact need to by cycled to prevent down regulation of receptors but with TB/BPC you can run it as long as you need it and if it were me doing an Ironman I'd run it right up until the event at half the dose you'd use for the injury repair. I'd probably load it about 4 weeks out too at 500mcg/500mcg before the event.

Have you look into what GLOW or KLOW is? It's a blend of TB/BPC with 1 or 2 other healing peptides as well.

There's a great write up on these peptides in our eBooks at https://irongorillas.com where it recommends up to 750mcg twice a day for injury healing. Otherwise broad recovery doses are what you'd be looking at with 250mcg once a day.

You can download the eBooks by signing up over at irongorillas.com.

 

[apolx]

Some peptides do in fact need to by cycled to prevent down regulation of receptors but with TB/BPC you can run it as long as you need it and if it were me doing an Ironman I'd run it right up until the event at half the dose you'd use for the injury repair. I'd probably load it about 4 weeks out too at 500mcg/500mcg before the event.

Have you look into what GLOW or KLOW is? It's a blend of TB/BPC with 1 or 2 other healing peptides as well.

There's a great write up on these peptides in our eBooks at https://irongorillas.com where it recommends up to 750mcg twice a day for injury healing. Otherwise broad recovery doses are what you'd be looking at with 250mcg once a day.

You can download the eBooks by signing up over at irongorillas.com.

Thanks for this - really appreciate it. And re: GLOW or KLOW - I am aware they exist, but not really looked into it and for simplicity sake I wanted to start with just BPC/TB blended vial rather than seperate, and Raptor Labs (aus based) were the only ones who did a blended vial. They do offer GLOW but bit more expensive and like I said, I have not done enough research on that added compound or whether it makes sense fo what I am trying to achieve in terms of recovery + reduced inflammation.

Again VERY happy to be educated otherwise, this is all new and I am by no means an expert of any of this - hence why I am always leaning towards a conservative approach first!

 

[LevButlerov]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

welcome fully to the EVO family you look good in the pic very tight and hard! @apolx
Your thinking is mostly right and BPC157 with TB500 is a common combo for osteitis pubis, but 250 mcg each 1x daily is on the low side for a chronic overuse issue like this and I would run BPC157 at 500mcg ed and TB 500 at 5 mg/week split into 2 doses for 8 weeks minimum maybe even 12 weeks.

More important than tweaking peptides is getting a proper rehab and training log updates with daily pain scores, leg loading, cycling volume, sleep, and bodyweight so the EVO family can actually see what is slowing healing and help you get back to Ironman prep safely.
Food will be key as well here, think bone broth collagen etc.

Not really looking for aesthetic gains but here's a pic anyway

 

[apolx]

welcome fully to the EVO family you look good in the pic very tight and hard! @apolx
Your thinking is mostly right and BPC157 with TB500 is a common combo for osteitis pubis, but 250 mcg each 1x daily is on the low side for a chronic overuse issue like this and I would run BPC157 at 500mcg ed and TB 500 at 5 mg/week split into 2 doses for 8 weeks minimum maybe even 12 weeks.

More important than tweaking peptides is getting a proper rehab and training log updates with daily pain scores, leg loading, cycling volume, sleep, and bodyweight so the EVO family can actually see what is slowing healing and help you get back to Ironman prep safely.
Food will be key as well here, think bone broth collagen etc.

Yeah I'm seeing a Ostetis pubis specialist next Friday to tweak my rehab routine and will be following that religiously. I will update the log with those details e.g. pain scores, training volume etc.

I am awful at tracking diets but so no promises there haha.

You're the 2nd person to recommend a higher dose, so I will definitely weight up the cost implications and have a think

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah I'm seeing a Ostetis pubis specialist next Friday to tweak my rehab routine and will be following that religiously. I will update the log with those details e.g. pain scores, training volume etc.

I am awful at tracking diets but so no promises there haha.

You're the 2nd person to recommend a higher dose, so I will definitely weight up the cost implications and have a think

lets see how the rehab goes and start tracking food via app like my fitnesspal @apolx

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yeah I'm seeing a Ostetis pubis specialist next Friday to tweak my rehab routine and will be following that religiously. I will update the log with those details e.g. pain scores, training volume etc.

I am awful at tracking diets but so no promises there haha.

You're the 2nd person to recommend a higher dose, so I will definitely weight up the cost implications and have a think

I second what @LevButlerov said about collagen and I usually recommend that for those using BPC/TB or GLOW or KLOW. These peptides work (amongst other ways) by increased collagen synthesis so bone broth and collagen peptide powder (20g/day minimum) will really move things along for you.

One of our resident experts on bone broth and super high quality foods for both recovery and healing is @stevesmi and he has a great Veteran Thread with his recipe for it here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/steves-bone-broth-recipe.98735/
I highly recommend you listen to Lev on this one and get this included in your daily diet.

Nice catch @LevButlerov

 

[Mobster]

I think the issue here is, even with rehab, you're not tasking a break.

 

[apolx]

I think the issue here is, even with rehab, you're not tasking a break.

Since last Friday (when I got the results) - I've stopped all activity that causes the pain e..g. running, lunges, split squats etc. and have been cleared to keep cycling, swimming and gym work (tweaked leg days) - that being said, I did have 2/3 months of complete rest from August-October when I first got injured and that did absolutely nothing for my pain

But you are right, I can't just peptide my way through this so I'm going to be super careful with load, and work with a specialist at the same.

Also adding Collagen Peptide Powder to my daily diet as per above ^ thanks @HarleyGuy

 

[apolx]

Also small update, am purchasing an additional vial so will be upping dose to Dose: 0.14 ml = 350 mcg BPC-157 + 350 mcg TB-500 ED for 8 weeks.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Since last Friday (when I got the results) - I've stopped all activity that causes the pain e..g. running, lunges, split squats etc. and have been cleared to keep cycling, swimming and gym work (tweaked leg days) - that being said, I did have 2/3 months of complete rest from August-October when I first got injured and that did absolutely nothing for my pain

But you are right, I can't just peptide my way through this so I'm going to be super careful with load, and work with a specialist at the same.

Also adding Collagen Peptide Powder to my daily diet as per above ^ thanks @HarleyGuy

I'm happy to hear this and will following along hoping this works itself out for you. Was very happy to help.
I really hope your budget can handle the 500mcg/500mcg daily too.

 

[stevesmi]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

@apolx keep up the good work on this boss. I like the BPC and TB500. These are really good and I like that you're showing the way you're reconstituting them and taking them.

 

[ceo]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

Bro, seems like a lotta dudes hitting these peptides hot and heavy these days. That's why I like to read these logs. I like to learn some of these. A lot of people in America don't know much about them yet. @apolx

 

[Ulter]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

I like the plan that you got together for sure. The BPC and the TB500 are a good mix. You should also look into maybe the KLOW stack. @apolx that one is BPC and TB 500 and you're adding KPV and you're adding GHK.

 

[2Thick]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

@apolx training history for 14 years, being a gym bro is really good, man. You built up a lot of muscle memory doing all that so the sky is the limit on this log. Let's kill it.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Man, you're so damn modest, not looking for aesthetic gains, huh? You look better than 99.9% of people out there so you crack me up, man. @apolx

Not really looking for aesthetic gains but here's a pic anyway

 

[apolx]

Man, you're so damn modest, not looking for aesthetic gains, huh? You look better than 99.9% of people out there so you crack me up, man. @apolx

Haha no I'm very happy what I've achieved naturally, I didn't realise the photo request was for a profile pic or part of a process for the log - thought it was a way to track visual changes, which I'm not expecting nor looking for with this recovery stack

 

[ROIDDERS]

Haha no I'm very happy what I've achieved naturally, I didn't realise the photo request was for a profile pic or part of a process for the log - thought it was a way to track visual changes, which I'm not expecting nor looking for with this recovery stack

you can do your log however you want man. Some people like to do it one way. Some people like to do another. At the end of the day we want you to improve. That's the number one thing we care about.

 

[RoySimpson]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

@apolx Welcome to the forums bro! Ive had great results from peptides, will be following along!

 

[ballin2504]

1) Background, Context of Injury, MRI Results, Age, Weight, Height

Hey everyone, I've been dealing with left-sided groin/lower abdominal pain for nearly 6 months (first onset early August 2025). It started during running training and soccer matches - pain when running, lunging, stretching the hip, or doing tough core work like hanging leg raises. Strong sneezes/coughs also hurt it. I'm training for an Ironman in June 2026, so this is killing my progress. No trauma - just overuse from high-volume training.

I've done 3 months of physio/rehab focused on hip flexor and adductor tendinitis, but no real improvement. Got an MRI last week (left hip and pubic symphysis), and the summary is: findings of moderate chronic osteitis pubis. A small anterosuperior acetabular labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought more likelv incidental.

• Age: 31
• Weight: 69kg
• Height: 173cm

Training history: Gym bro for 14 years; but current routine is: 4x gym (Push/Legs/Pull/Legs), 3x cycling (VO2, threshold, long), 2x run (threshold, long), 4x swim (drills + open water). Modifying legs for recovery (box squats, single-leg focus, isometrics). Rehab every other day (dead bugs, squeezes, planks). No prior cycles or peptides.

Note: I am no longer running since the diagnosis until I am pain free.

2) My Protocol and How I THINK I Will Be Doing It (happy for tips/advice)

I'm exploring a peptide stack for recovery (BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg blend. This is to reduce inflammation, aid tendon recovery, and pubic bone healing.

Here's the plan:

• Stack: BPC-157 5mg + TB-500 5mg per vial (10mg total blend/vial). Most likely from Raptor Labs?
• Goal: Tendon/ligament/muscle recovery + inflammation reduction for osteitis pubis.
• Vials needed: 3.
• BAC water total: 6 ml (2 ml per vial × 3 vials). Buy one 10 ml bottle.
• Syringes: 56 x 0.3 ml (30-unit) U-100 insulin syringes (29–31G, ½ inch).
• Reconstitution per vial: Add 2 ml BAC water → swirl gently → fridge.
• Daily dose: 0.1 ml (10 units) = 250 mcg BPC + 250 mcg TB.
• Frequency: 1 injection per day subcutaneously in the lower abs area every morning.
• Duration: 8 weeks (56 injections total).

Total blend used: 28 mg (5.6 ml reconstituted) → 3 vials minimum.

How I will track (weekly): Log pain (0–10) daily, sides, rehab progress.

Looking for feedback - is this dose too low/high? Any tweaks for osteitis pubis recovery? Thanks!

@apolx welcome aboard man. Nice start to the log. Glad to have ya.

 

[apolx]

Day 1 Update:
Peptides have arrived from @Raptor Labs @Raptor Rep (photo attached) - smooth communication and really easy process. Thanks so much. Probably TOO discrete, because my neighbour opened it all up thinking it was their parcel haha!

I have also decided to up the dose to 0.20ml (i.e 500mcg of BPC & TB) - partly due to a few people saying my original dose was too low, but also so that I can compress the cycle to 6 weeks (less needles)

Have just reconstituted my 1st vial, think my syringes are a little small so was hard to get the BAC out and into the Peptide vial but all good in the end. Have pinned my first dose too - was nervy and HR was high, but it was super painless.

Have also started 20g of Peptide Protein Powder daily as recommended above.

Will report back on the 23rd to add details on the new routine the Physio has me on and any (if any at this stage) observations of the cycle.

Pain is still a baseline 4/10 at all times, and wince enducing trying to lunge, sprint etc.

 

[Raptor Labs]

Peptides have arrived from @Raptor Labs @Raptor Rep (photo attached) - smooth communication and really easy process. Thanks so much. Probably TOO discrete, because my neighbour opened it all up thinking it was their parcel haha!

Haha happy to see safe touchdown. The reason for the super discrete is because the postage guys steal them if they can tell what it is

What a great start to a recovery log, we are glad to be here on the journey with you. The advise from brotherrs @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy is hitting the nail on the head, couldn't add anything on top of what they said

Much respect for doing ironman brother

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 1 Update:
Peptides have arrived from @Raptor Labs @Raptor Rep (photo attached) - smooth communication and really easy process. Thanks so much. Probably TOO discrete, because my neighbour opened it all up thinking it was their parcel haha!

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I have also decided to up the dose to 0.20ml (i.e 500mcg of BPC & TB) - partly due to a few people saying my original dose was too low, but also so that I can compress the cycle to 6 weeks (less needles)

Have just reconstituted my 1st vial, think my syringes are a little small so was hard to get the BAC out and into the Peptide vial but all good in the end. Have pinned my first dose too - was nervy and HR was high, but it was super painless.

Have also started 20g of Peptide Protein Powder daily as recommended above.

Will report back on the 23rd to add details on the new routine the Physio has me on and any (if any at this stage) observations of the cycle.

Pain is still a baseline 4/10 at all times, and wince enducing trying to lunge, sprint etc.

good touchdown for Team Raptor @Raptor Labs @Raptor Rep nice bottles and good info in the packs Team Raptor for the win! @apolx

have you started adding bone broth as well to your diet? how about infrared lamp?

 

[HarleyGuy]

I have also decided to up the dose to 0.20ml (i.e 500mcg of BPC & TB)

Wise move. If after 4 weeks you've noticed nothing has changed yet, try and budget for another 6 week run of it at those doses for a total of 12 weeeks.

 

[apolx]

Day 6 Update
Still running my daily stack: 500 mcg BPC-157 + 500 mcg TB-500.

• Zero side effects so far (which is great).
• No noticeable improvements in symptoms yet - which is exactly what I expected at just 6 days in, but the rest of my body feels great (though I can attribute this to peptides just yet)

Had a solid consult with my osteitis pubis specialist. Key takeaways:

• Strict 4-week deload from any activities that cause pubic shearing or aggravation (no exceptions).
• Allowed: Swimming and high-cadence cycling (low-impact cardio to stay active).
• Leg days completely reworked to target and correct my specific muscle weaknesses and imbalances.

Important clarification from the specialist: My issue is purely at the pubic symphysis bone level (bone stress/inflammation), not primarily muscle, tendon, or ligament-based.This has me a bit concerned that the BPC/TB stack might have less impact here (since these peptides are more renowned for soft-tissue repair, though some reports suggest benefits for bone healing/inflammation too). Still, I'm continuing the full cycle regardless it's low-risk for me so far.

Other supports in play:

• 20g collagen peptides daily (ongoing).
• 10g creatine daily (been on this for years).
• Bone broth added sporadically for extra joint/bone support.

Daily rehab exercises are locked in and feeling manageable.

Plan: Check back in with the specialist in 4 weeks for re-testing and progress assessment. He's suggesting a repeat MRI then, but I'm weighing the $400 cost - will decide closer to the date based on how things feel. That being said, I am paying $400 next week for a specialist Triathlon Bike fitting to hopefully make some tweaks to shift any pressure on my pelvis (because I make stupid decisions sometimes)

Overall: Early days, staying patient and consistent. Will update again (most likely at the 14 day point).

 

[CyberPimp55]

Hey buddy, welcome to the forum! I'm right there with you! I've been runnig on BPC157 - 500mcg ed and TB 500 at 5 mg/week for an elbow tendinitis injury. The pain still comes and goes! but I've def started seeing some imporvements. I am only 4 weeks in.

Great log, I'll be following along!

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 6 Update
Still running my daily stack: 500 mcg BPC-157 + 500 mcg TB-500.

• Zero side effects so far (which is great).
• No noticeable improvements in symptoms yet - which is exactly what I expected at just 6 days in, but the rest of my body feels great (though I can attribute this to peptides just yet)

Had a solid consult with my osteitis pubis specialist. Key takeaways:

• Strict 4-week deload from any activities that cause pubic shearing or aggravation (no exceptions).
• Allowed: Swimming and high-cadence cycling (low-impact cardio to stay active).
• Leg days completely reworked to target and correct my specific muscle weaknesses and imbalances.

Important clarification from the specialist: My issue is purely at the pubic symphysis bone level (bone stress/inflammation), not primarily muscle, tendon, or ligament-based.This has me a bit concerned that the BPC/TB stack might have less impact here (since these peptides are more renowned for soft-tissue repair, though some reports suggest benefits for bone healing/inflammation too). Still, I'm continuing the full cycle regardless it's low-risk for me so far.

Other supports in play:

• 20g collagen peptides daily (ongoing).
• 10g creatine daily (been on this for years).
• Bone broth added sporadically for extra joint/bone support.

Daily rehab exercises are locked in and feeling manageable.

Plan: Check back in with the specialist in 4 weeks for re-testing and progress assessment. He's suggesting a repeat MRI then, but I'm weighing the $400 cost - will decide closer to the date based on how things feel. That being said, I am paying $400 next week for a specialist Triathlon Bike fitting to hopefully make some tweaks to shift any pressure on my pelvis (because I make stupid decisions sometimes)

Overall: Early days, staying patient and consistent. Will update again (most likely at the 14 day point).

0 sites is good news i'm hoping to see some rehab pics @apolx

 

[apolx]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

Good to see pain reduction lets see how you do with food?

 

[apolx]

Good to see pain reduction lets see how you do with food?

Yea have been eating much more, bone broth, collagen peptide powder, more protein - not counting calories but im gaining weight lol

 

[stevesmi]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

@apolx great to see another update out of you, man. I'm really impressed. I'm glad the pain is starting to go down; that's always very good to hear.

 

[Mobster]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

Keep that going. Lots will slack off at this point

 

[2Thick]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

Proud of you man. Keep up the good work. This is a really good log update. I'm glad that you're feeling better. Nobody wants to deal with that negativity of pain. @apolx

 

[ROIDDERS]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

Continue doing your mobility and stretching work; that's very important. Make sure you're always warming up religiously. @apolx seems like your rehab is going well. Keep it up.

 

[Ulter]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

@apolx my view is no pain, no gain but there's a difference between good pain and bad pain. Obviously you don't want the bad pain.

 

[ceo]

Day 19 update:
Noticed a significant reduction of pain on day 14, didn't want to post an update too soon as I wanted to see if this was a placebo or just a "good day" - pain has gradually gotten better since then, and the usual rehab activities are much less sore and my typical "stress test" i.e half squat adductor squeeze is causing little pain 1 or 2 out of 10.

Don't want to get carried away, and will continue my protocol but things are *fingers crossed* looking better!

Still haven't (and won't) test running until my physio clears me - check up in 2 or 3 weeks but for an injury that has lasted for 6 months, with zero improvement and now a big improvement in 19 days on Wolverine stack, I am feeling pumped!

Not sure if I can 100% attribute this to the stack, I've deloaded, tweaked gym workout, changed diet, and am doing my rehab religiously 4 days a week

Bros, the iron grind ever stops for sure. Just make sure to listen to your body. If you're feeling some pain maybe stop. Don't push through the pain; you'll get more injured. @apolx

 

[apolx]

Ah missed some of these comments appreciate the support - I'm still being super conservative and strict with everything!

I've also decided I'll be repurchasing to extend my cycle to 8 weeks (up from 6) and have noticed @Raptor Labs now stocks KLOW 80mg - has anyone got any experience with that?

Should I use that for the final 20 days with 5ml BAC, 0.25ml daily injection to give (if my maths is right)
TB-500 500mcg
BPC-157 500mcg
GHK-Cu 2500mcg
KPV 500mcg

Or just stick with my current protocol? I've got about 7 days left of my last vial so need to decide soon haha!

 

[apolx]

Ah missed some of these comments appreciate the support - I'm still being super conservative and strict with everything!

I've also decided I'll be repurchasing to extend my cycle to 8 weeks (up from 6) and have noticed @Raptor Labs now stocks KLOW 80mg - has anyone got any experience with that?

Should I use that for the final 20 days with 5ml BAC, 0.25ml daily injection to give (if my maths is right)
TB-500 500mcg
BPC-157 500mcg
GHK-Cu 2500mcg
KPV 500mcg

Or just stick with my current protocol? I've got about 7 days left of my last vial so need to decide soon haha!

Correction: 3ml BAC + 0.15ml sorry - assuming 3ml is the vial limit

 

[LevButlerov]

Ah missed some of these comments appreciate the support - I'm still being super conservative and strict with everything!

I've also decided I'll be repurchasing to extend my cycle to 8 weeks (up from 6) and have noticed @Raptor Labs now stocks KLOW 80mg - has anyone got any experience with that?

Should I use that for the final 20 days with 5ml BAC, 0.25ml daily injection to give (if my maths is right)
TB-500 500mcg
BPC-157 500mcg
GHK-Cu 2500mcg
KPV 500mcg

Or just stick with my current protocol? I've got about 7 days left of my last vial so need to decide soon haha!

I would stick with what you have now, did you want to change? @apolx how about diet update?

 

[apolx]

I would stick with what you have now, did you want to change? @apolx how about diet update?

I don't want to change, I guess the sentiment around that is "what if this helps more?"

Re: diet I've been having (daily):
10g creatine
15g peptide powder
500-750+ calories above baseline
2x a week a bone broth meal

But all good healthy foods, I may have been suffering from REDs according to my doctor given how nutritionally deficient I've been, despite training 15 hours a week

Have put on a little weight, but still lean and cycling and swimming performance improving. I've done a 50m run and it was pain free, but I won't push my luck until I see physio next week.

Funnily, he did say given my MRI and physical tests this would "take several months" to get me back to running - so 4 weeks to feel like this has me feeling good! I'll probably tell him I've been on peptides just so he has the full picture

 

[LevButlerov]

I don't want to change, I guess the sentiment around that is "what if this helps more?"

Re: diet I've been having (daily):
10g creatine
15g peptide powder
500-750+ calories above baseline
2x a week a bone broth meal

But all good healthy foods, I may have been suffering from REDs according to my doctor given how nutritionally deficient I've been, despite training 15 hours a week

Have put on a little weight, but still lean and cycling and swimming performance improving. I've done a 50m run and it was pain free, but I won't push my luck until I see physio next week.

Funnily, he did say given my MRI and physical tests this would "take several months" to get me back to running - so 4 weeks to feel like this has me feeling good! I'll probably tell him I've been on peptides just so he has the full picture

you don tneed to change but depends on the situation @apolx
your mri results can you post them please?

 

[apolx]

you don tneed to change but depends on the situation @apolx
your mri results can you post them please?

Summary:
EXAMINATION:
MRI LEFT HIP AND PUBIC SYMPHYSIS
Clinical History:
Pain above the left hip in the pubic area. To exclude tendinopathy/labral.
Technique:

Coronal T2 FS, T1, sagittal PD FS and axial T2 FS through the pubic symphysis,
axial oblique, coronal and sagittal PD FS weighted sequences through the left
hip.
Comparison:
None
Findings:

There is bone marrow oedema through both pubic bodies in keeping with osteitis
pubis. There is associated cortical irregularity about the symphysis along with
thickening and hyperintensity at the superior pubic ligament and posterior pubic
ligaments. The arcuate ligament is normal in appearance. No associated pubic
fracture is present. The adductor longus attachments are intact. Minor oedema
extends from the left pubic bone into the adductor musculature. The rectus
abdominis muscles are normal in appearance. No abnormality is identified at the
pubic plate.


Bone marrow signal at the demonstrated pelvic bones is otherwise normal. No
muscle tear or haematoma is identified. The dedicated imaging through the left
hip demonstrates a trace of fluid in the hip joint. The ligamentum teres
appears intact. Hip joint articular cartilage is mildly thinned
superolaterally. A small anterosuperior labral tear is present from 2 o'clock
to 3 o'clock. No displaced labral tissue or paralabral cyst. No periarticular
osteophytes are present. No CAM lesion is identified at the femoral head/neck
junction. Bone marrow signal is otherwise normal in the field of view. The
hamstrings attachments are intact and normal in appearance. Sciatic nerve
course and signal is normal bilaterally. The pelvic soft tissues are normal in
appearance. No inguinal soft tissue abnormality is detected.
CONCLUSION:

There are findings of moderate acute on chronic osteitis pubis thought the most
likely cause for the patient's symptoms. A small anterosuperior acetabular
labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought
more likely incidental.

Attached images - used to be able to see 100s? Can only see a few now

 

[LevButlerov]

Summary:
EXAMINATION:
MRI LEFT HIP AND PUBIC SYMPHYSIS
Clinical History:
Pain above the left hip in the pubic area. To exclude tendinopathy/labral.
Technique:

Coronal T2 FS, T1, sagittal PD FS and axial T2 FS through the pubic symphysis,
axial oblique, coronal and sagittal PD FS weighted sequences through the left
hip.
Comparison:
None
Findings:

There is bone marrow oedema through both pubic bodies in keeping with osteitis
pubis. There is associated cortical irregularity about the symphysis along with
thickening and hyperintensity at the superior pubic ligament and posterior pubic
ligaments. The arcuate ligament is normal in appearance. No associated pubic
fracture is present. The adductor longus attachments are intact. Minor oedema
extends from the left pubic bone into the adductor musculature. The rectus
abdominis muscles are normal in appearance. No abnormality is identified at the
pubic plate.


Bone marrow signal at the demonstrated pelvic bones is otherwise normal. No
muscle tear or haematoma is identified. The dedicated imaging through the left
hip demonstrates a trace of fluid in the hip joint. The ligamentum teres
appears intact. Hip joint articular cartilage is mildly thinned
superolaterally. A small anterosuperior labral tear is present from 2 o'clock
to 3 o'clock. No displaced labral tissue or paralabral cyst. No periarticular
osteophytes are present. No CAM lesion is identified at the femoral head/neck
junction. Bone marrow signal is otherwise normal in the field of view. The
hamstrings attachments are intact and normal in appearance. Sciatic nerve
course and signal is normal bilaterally. The pelvic soft tissues are normal in
appearance. No inguinal soft tissue abnormality is detected.
CONCLUSION:

There are findings of moderate acute on chronic osteitis pubis thought the most
likely cause for the patient's symptoms. A small anterosuperior acetabular
labral tear and mild superolateral chondral thinning at the left hip is thought
more likely incidental.

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Your MRI and the images match classic osteitis pubis, bone marrow edema in both pubic bodies when I zoom in there, so the pubic symphysis inflammation is the real pain cause here.
The hip findings are small and likely incidental like the report says, so stop chasing the hip and treat this like a load management and rehab problem with progressive adductor and core work. Core will be important.
I would avoid painful sprinting or heavy adductor stretching, and make sure you are eating enough.
At your weight you need to get more food and collagen and bone broth in there. @apolx

 

[apolx]

6 weeks 2 days update!
Huge update - apologies if this is too much

After 6 weeks and 1 day I've returned to physio and been given the green light to return back to running (albeit volume managed). Went for my first run today and couldn't believe it - I am pain free!

Physio was genuinely surprised, and very impressed with how quickly I've improved and said I've far exceeded expectations. I told him about the peptides and while he was very familiar with them couldn't legally give an opinion but it was good to give him the full context. I still have about 30ish days of BPC/TB left so will bring my total course to just over 10 weeks. I will finish the course, and report back in 4 weeks (unless I have a drastic setback....)

Original notes indicated "i expect a gradual return to running in several months"

Latest physio notes below (some personal details/fluff redacted)
Key Updates:

• Resolution of symptoms during ADL’s, cross training
• Introduce posterior chain strengthening with torsional hemi-pelvis loading
• Graduated return-to-running program over 8-10 weeks
• Monitor symptom response, particularly pubic bone irritability and morning pain

Notes:
Great to see you yesterday. I’m really pleased with how things are progressing! The biggest takeaway for me is that you’ve made excellent progress with your adductor squeeze strength, abdominal control and general pelvic control. Importantly, the pain that was previously more localised around the pubic bone has largely settled, and the small amount of discomfort you now feel sits more in the adductor muscle itself. That’s actually a positive shift, as it suggests the stress around the pubic bone is settling and the load is being better tolerated through the surrounding muscle.

Overall you’ve done an excellent job with the rehab so far. Your improvement over the past six weeks is genuinely impressive and gives us a strong platform to keep building from.

Clinical update summary

• Significant improvement since the initial review, with strong adherence to the rehabilitation program.
• Minimal to no pubic bone pain is now reported, with only occasional mild adductor soreness during higher load or longer lever tasks.
• Daily activities and controlled gym-based training are being completed without symptom provocation.

Assessment findings

• Adductor squeeze strength is strong and non-provocative across multiple positions.
• Previously painful abdominal loading tasks are now well tolerated.
• Only mild pressure discomfort remains on palpation, rather than the focal tenderness seen earlier.
• Dynamic movements including hopping, lunging, squatting, and trunk control tasks were completed pain free.

Clinical interpretation

• Findings indicate a positive shift away from primary pubic bone stress.
• Management has progressed toward strengthening through range and careful reintroduction of running.
• Rehabilitation now includes greater posterior chain involvement, torsional pelvic loading, and pelvic force closure work.

Current plan

• A graduated return-to-running program has commenced using short run-walk intervals.
• Running load will increase gradually while aiming to limit excessive pubic symphysis stress.
• Higher speed running remains restricted until continuous running is comfortably tolerated.

Outlook

• If progress continues, a steady return toward full running is expected over the coming months.
• Symptoms will continue to be monitored closely, with the plan adjusted if pubic symptoms re-emerge or progress slows.
• A more conservative reloading timeline may be required if symptoms flare.

New Rehab Routine:
The main exercises we discussed are the:

• Copenhagen adductor exercise moving through a controlled up-and-down range rather than just holding the position,
• Split squats with a longer stance and vertical front shin to encourage glute and posterior chain activation,
• single-leg Romanian deadlifts focusing on hip control and hamstring strength,
• Feet-elevated hamstring bridge/hip thrust variation to build posterior chain strength without excessive pelvic stress.

Dosage is around 2x weekly with 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps (each leg if single leg)

Running can now start to be reintroduced gradually. The aim initially is simply to rebuild tolerance to running volume rather than speed. All running should be at an easy conversational pace on flat ground. Mild discomfort during running (up to about 1-2/10) can be acceptable provided symptoms settle within a few hours and there is no increase in morning pubic pain.

For the first four weeks I’d suggest the following structure:

Week 1 - Two runs during the week.
Run 1: 1 minute running / 1 minute walking repeated for 20 minutes total.
Run 2: Repeat the same session

Week 2 - Two runs during the week.
Run 1: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 20–22 minutes.
Run 2: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 24–25 minutes.

Week 3 - Two runs during the week.
Run 1: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 25–27 minutes.
Run 2: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 28–30 minutes.

Week 4 - Continue with two runs initially while transitioning toward continuous running.
Run 1: 3 x 5 minutes of continuous easy running with 2 mins of walking in between.
Run 2: 2 x 10 minutes continuous easy running with 2 mins of walking between sets
If this is well tolerated, a third short run can be added at the end of the week (around 15-20 minutes).

 

[LevButlerov]

6 weeks 2 days update!
Huge update - apologies if this is too much

After 6 weeks and 1 day I've returned to physio and been given the green light to return back to running (albeit volume managed). Went for my first run today and couldn't believe it - I am pain free!

Physio was genuinely surprised, and very impressed with how quickly I've improved and said I've far exceeded expectations. I told him about the peptides and while he was very familiar with them couldn't legally give an opinion but it was good to give him the full context. I still have about 30ish days of BPC/TB left so will bring my total course to just over 10 weeks. I will finish the course, and report back in 4 weeks (unless I have a drastic setback....)

Original notes indicated "i expect a gradual return to running in several months"

Latest physio notes below (some personal details/fluff redacted)
Key Updates:

• Resolution of symptoms during ADL’s, cross training
• Introduce posterior chain strengthening with torsional hemi-pelvis loading
• Graduated return-to-running program over 8-10 weeks
• Monitor symptom response, particularly pubic bone irritability and morning pain

Notes:
Great to see you yesterday. I’m really pleased with how things are progressing! The biggest takeaway for me is that you’ve made excellent progress with your adductor squeeze strength, abdominal control and general pelvic control. Importantly, the pain that was previously more localised around the pubic bone has largely settled, and the small amount of discomfort you now feel sits more in the adductor muscle itself. That’s actually a positive shift, as it suggests the stress around the pubic bone is settling and the load is being better tolerated through the surrounding muscle.

Overall you’ve done an excellent job with the rehab so far. Your improvement over the past six weeks is genuinely impressive and gives us a strong platform to keep building from.

Clinical update summary

• Significant improvement since the initial review, with strong adherence to the rehabilitation program.
• Minimal to no pubic bone pain is now reported, with only occasional mild adductor soreness during higher load or longer lever tasks.
• Daily activities and controlled gym-based training are being completed without symptom provocation.

Assessment findings

• Adductor squeeze strength is strong and non-provocative across multiple positions.
• Previously painful abdominal loading tasks are now well tolerated.
• Only mild pressure discomfort remains on palpation, rather than the focal tenderness seen earlier.
• Dynamic movements including hopping, lunging, squatting, and trunk control tasks were completed pain free.

Clinical interpretation

• Findings indicate a positive shift away from primary pubic bone stress.
• Management has progressed toward strengthening through range and careful reintroduction of running.
• Rehabilitation now includes greater posterior chain involvement, torsional pelvic loading, and pelvic force closure work.

Current plan

• A graduated return-to-running program has commenced using short run-walk intervals.
• Running load will increase gradually while aiming to limit excessive pubic symphysis stress.
• Higher speed running remains restricted until continuous running is comfortably tolerated.

Outlook

• If progress continues, a steady return toward full running is expected over the coming months.
• Symptoms will continue to be monitored closely, with the plan adjusted if pubic symptoms re-emerge or progress slows.
• A more conservative reloading timeline may be required if symptoms flare.

New Rehab Routine:
The main exercises we discussed are the:

• Copenhagen adductor exercise moving through a controlled up-and-down range rather than just holding the position,
• Split squats with a longer stance and vertical front shin to encourage glute and posterior chain activation,
• single-leg Romanian deadlifts focusing on hip control and hamstring strength,
• Feet-elevated hamstring bridge/hip thrust variation to build posterior chain strength without excessive pelvic stress.

Dosage is around 2x weekly with 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps (each leg if single leg)

Running can now start to be reintroduced gradually. The aim initially is simply to rebuild tolerance to running volume rather than speed. All running should be at an easy conversational pace on flat ground. Mild discomfort during running (up to about 1-2/10) can be acceptable provided symptoms settle within a few hours and there is no increase in morning pubic pain.

For the first four weeks I’d suggest the following structure:

Week 1 - Two runs during the week.
Run 1: 1 minute running / 1 minute walking repeated for 20 minutes total.
Run 2: Repeat the same session

Week 2 - Two runs during the week.
Run 1: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 20–22 minutes.
Run 2: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 24–25 minutes.

Week 3 - Two runs during the week.
Run 1: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 25–27 minutes.
Run 2: 2 minutes running / 1 minute walking repeated for around 28–30 minutes.

Week 4 - Continue with two runs initially while transitioning toward continuous running.
Run 1: 3 x 5 minutes of continuous easy running with 2 mins of walking in between.
Run 2: 2 x 10 minutes continuous easy running with 2 mins of walking between sets
If this is well tolerated, a third short run can be added at the end of the week (around 15-20 minutes).

Good to see you back @apolx did you see my post to you?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...teitis-pubis-bpc157-tb500.108741/post-1984477

Your MRI and the images match classic osteitis pubis, bone marrow edema in both pubic bodies when I zoom in there, so the pubic symphysis inflammation is the real pain cause here.
The hip findings are small and likely incidental like the report says, so stop chasing the hip and treat this like a load management and rehab problem with progressive adductor and core work. Core will be important.
I would avoid painful sprinting or heavy adductor stretching, and make sure you are eating enough.
At your weight you need to get more food and collagen and bone broth in there. @apolx

 

[apolx]

Good to see you back @apolx did you see my post to you?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...teitis-pubis-bpc157-tb500.108741/post-1984477

Ah oops must have missed this sorry! But yes completely agree, for the last 6 weeks I've been really focusing on adductor and core work (no stretching or sprinting) and reluctantly, eating much more (including bone broth and collagen) - game changer!

 

[LevButlerov]

Ah oops must have missed this sorry! But yes completely agree, for the last 6 weeks I've been really focusing on adductor and core work (no stretching or sprinting) and reluctantly, eating much more (including bone broth and collagen) - game changer!

you should rework the training a bit @apolx

 

[apolx]

you should rework the training a bit @apolx

Yep as above you've seen my updated running routine. Below is my new 6 week strength training routine. This is a shift away from lots of isometrics ive been doing for 6 weeks, to now a bit more dynamic.


The main exercises we discussed are the:

• Copenhagen adductor exercise moving through a controlled up-and-down range rather than just holding the position,
• Split squats with a longer stance and vertical front shin to encourage glute and posterior chain activation,
• single-leg Romanian deadlifts focusing on hip control and hamstring strength,
• Feet-elevated hamstring bridge/hip thrust variation to build posterior chain strength without excessive pelvic stress.
• Bent knee calf raises to strengthen lower calf soleus

Dosage is around 2x weekly with 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps (each leg if single leg)

 

[LevButlerov]

Yep as above you've seen my updated running routine. Below is my new 6 week strength training routine. This is a shift away from lots of isometrics ive been doing for 6 weeks, to now a bit more dynamic.


The main exercises we discussed are the:

• Copenhagen adductor exercise moving through a controlled up-and-down range rather than just holding the position,
• Split squats with a longer stance and vertical front shin to encourage glute and posterior chain activation,
• single-leg Romanian deadlifts focusing on hip control and hamstring strength,
• Feet-elevated hamstring bridge/hip thrust variation to build posterior chain strength without excessive pelvic stress.
• Bent knee calf raises to strengthen lower calf soleus

Dosage is around 2x weekly with 3-4 sets of 10-12 reps (each leg if single leg)

that will work lets see your new weights but I would go to 12-15 reps @apolx

 

[apolx]

Officially done!

Injury is night a day different, I'm not back to 100% yet but I'm managing my running load carefully and improving every week. I can never say for certain whether it was BPC, TB, diet, rehab but I'm sure all of it helped so thank you to everyone who gave me advice over the last few months

 

[LevButlerov]

Officially done!

Injury is night a day different, I'm not back to 100% yet but I'm managing my running load carefully and improving every week. I can never say for certain whether it was BPC, TB, diet, rehab but I'm sure all of it helped so thank you to everyone who gave me advice over the last few months

done and recovered? @apolx

 

[apolx]

done and recovered? @apolx

Done, but not 100% recovered. I'm back to running 3x a week at a 0.5/10 pain but very carefully managing my load - still doing physio religiously to work on the muscular weaknesses. Next physio check-in next week.

But I am off the peptide stack for now...

 

[LevButlerov]

Done, but not 100% recovered. I'm back to running 3x a week at a 0.5/10 pain but very carefully managing my load - still doing physio religiously to work on the muscular weaknesses. Next physio check-in next week.

But I am off the peptide stack for now...

recover first