Going with NPP or DECA, which one is best for bulking?

[tuomner]

What do you think about using Sustanon along with NPP or deca? Which one of those would be best for bulking up? I'm currently around 95 kilograms and I'm a hard gainer and I'm stuck at a plateau. I'm 6'4". I would like to break through 100 kilograms and maybe shoot for 112 kilograms.
Thinking of going with NPP 300mg or maybe DECA at 400mg.
Do you think that this would be a good stack for me?

 

[Dreamer]

What do you think about using Sustanon along with NPP or deca? Which one of those would be best for bulking up? I'm currently around 95 kilograms and I'm a hard gainer and I'm stuck at a plateau. I'm 6'4". I would like to break through 100 kilograms and maybe shoot for 112 kilograms.
Thinking of going with NPP 300mg or maybe DECA at 400mg.
Do you think that this would be a good stack for me?

Have you ran either before? They are the same compound just in different esters, if you havent, I would suggest NPP at a lower dose pinned daily so you can assess your tolerance, as the half life of NPP is much much shorter, say 150mg a week spread over 7 days, can always titrate up to 300/400. NPP is wonderful, my favourite compound, but it can be especially brutal for some people. 150 will still pack muscle on if everything else is dialled in.

While your at it, why not consider starting a log mate? It is the best way to get guidance and support.

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Sustanon is good but adds another level of complexity to the cycle. Now you have 4 esters of testosterone with different half lives.. ed or eod injections is a pain in the ass.

Keep it simple 2shots a wk and an oral
Testosterone cypionate
Nandrolone decanoate
Tbol

 

[LevButlerov]

What do you think about using Sustanon along with NPP or deca? Which one of those would be best for bulking up? I'm currently around 95 kilograms and I'm a hard gainer and I'm stuck at a plateau. I'm 6'4". I would like to break through 100 kilograms and maybe shoot for 112 kilograms.
Thinking of going with NPP 300mg or maybe DECA at 400mg.
Do you think that this would be a good stack for me?

start with just test only before adding more, so in your case sustanon

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Same drug different ester. If you are going for a decent length 12+ week cycle go with standard deca. Shorter cycle go NPP

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

With a 4-6w dbol kick start for old school bulk

 

[Allupfromhere]

What do you think about using Sustanon along with NPP or deca? Which one of those would be best for bulking up? I'm currently around 95 kilograms and I'm a hard gainer and I'm stuck at a plateau. I'm 6'4". I would like to break through 100 kilograms and maybe shoot for 112 kilograms.
Thinking of going with NPP 300mg or maybe DECA at 400mg.
Do you think that this would be a good stack for me?

If your looking to put on 15kg in a cycle it wont last when you come off. You say your a hard gainer brother and i agree you quite light for your height. But abusing drugs isnt your answer here. Im not saying dont use gear or that nandrolone wont help you build but there would be other things i look at first before you lean on forcing anabolics.

Whats your daily nutrition and macros look like? Whats training stimulus and form quality look like? Daily expendature and output?

Post some physique photos and blur out your face so we can see where your base is currently at.

You need to start a log bro as @Dreamer said to get accurate help here legend.

Much more to it then simply pinning more gear.

 

[JasonPriest]

The beauty part of domestic supply is you can try both NPP and DECA. Try them on different cycles and see how you like them. Essentially the big difference is NPP is a short ester.

 

[ceo]

Bros, I've always gone with Deca but I'm old school. I know some of the younger dudes like NPP. They like that it's in your system quicker and outta your system quicker.

 

[2Thick]

I would do a 10-week cycle:
- Testosterone E, 300 mg a week
- Deca, 400 mg a week
- Then add some Proviron, 25 mg a day

 

[Mobster]

Sustanon is good but adds another level of complexity to the cycle. Now you have 4 esters of testosterone with different half lives.. ed or eod injections is a pain in the ass.

Keep it simple 2shots a wk and an oral
Testosterone cypionate
Nandrolone decanoate
Tbol

Not an issue.,

1) Sus and Deca is THE bulker.
2) Just use the longest of the 4 (occasionally 5) esters as a marker. Ignore the rest
3) A typical sus and deca cycle is LESS pinning at E4D

Now if the NPP is chosen that's a lot more pinning. Yet it has it's fans if only for the quicker 'out' it offers. And, of course, individual response and preference.

 

[Ulter]

I love me some NPP for sure. It's a good option at 250mg a week or you could do deca in its place at 300mg a week. Either way will work fine.

 

[ROIDDERS]

I would do the stack like this:
- Testosterone Cypionate 300 mg a week
- Anavar 25 mg a day
- Then do some Dianabol at 10 or 20 mg a day

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Not an issue.,

1) Sus and Deca is THE bulker.
2) Just use the longest of the 4 (occasionally 5) esters as a marker. Ignore the rest
3) A typical sus and deca cycle is LESS pinning at E4D

Now if the NPP is chosen that's a lot more pinning. Yet it has it's fans if only for the quicker 'out' it offers. And, of course, individual response and preference.

Would you ever use testosterone Undecanoate as the test base of your cycle or trt with no other test ester?

 

[Mobster]

Would you ever use testosterone Undecanoate as the test base of your cycle or trt with no other test ester?

If I wanted a perfect bulker? No. For TRT? Sure. Although I prefer cyp on our podcasts I've stated that both the Oz and UK medically prescribed TRT use Test U. In the UK, for example, the standard protocol on the NHS is 1000mg every 6 weeks

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Sustanon uses testosterone decanoate and trt uses testosterone Undecanoate.

I have not used sustanon in over 20years.

 

[Pigsy]

Im a NPP man. That's my choice