Approved Log My weight loss Retatrutide Journal

[R3DUB]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

welcome fully to the EVO family @R3DUB love to see your transformation, big respect for you, it's hard to drop all the weight! amazing! Truly you pushed it hard.
Very happy you shared your journey and you look tight int he pics.

When was the last time you did bloods?

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

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[Pigsy]

welcome3 to EVO brother

 

[Dreamer]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

Welcome mate, I will be following for sure, rather than DSIP, you should consider GH for sleep.

 

[Kopite67]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

Great opening log brother. Welcome to Evo. Will be following your journey along

 

[R3DUB]

Welcome mate, I will be following for sure, rather than DSIP, you should consider GH for sleep.

Hey mate, a bit of a newbie to this whole world, do you mean growth hormones or something else?

 

[R3DUB]

Great opening log brother. Welcome to Evo. Will be following your journey along

Cheers mate!

 

[Dreamer]

Hey mate, a bit of a newbie to this whole world, do you mean growth hormones or something else?

Yes sorry, a low dose of Growth Hormone pre bed can do very very good things for your sleep.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

Great first log post my brother!!! Makes me happy to see when someone moves from one thread they started on right into their log like this, welcome to the EVO family! We got your back.

Your transformation is already amazingly impressive and I applaud you for it big time. I know what it's like to have to lose 80lbs when you've let yourself go. Great work.

I saw you said you were a newbie but you're in the best place to be a newbie. When I came on EVO I thought I knew my shit and didn't consider myself a newbie and quickly realized I was. Now that I've been on EVO for a bit it goes next level day after day with the knowledge and camaraderie one gains on here. It truly will change your life if you go headlong into what EVO offers.

So, my fellow newbie... we can start your learning journey with GH and DSIP since you hadn't heard of it.

First, they are peptides (small, usually less than amino acid chains less than 60-70 long that 'instruct' your 'system' to 'do something') and have become wildly popular because they work. Many haven't heard of them because Big Pharma knows they work and it would shut them down with the other drugs they currently pump out.

DSIP stands for Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide. It's a (nona)peptide that helps encourage deep sleep by being more abundant when used exogenously (ie: taken via subQ injection - a tiny little insulin needle into your fat at super small doses). Your brain makes this to get you into deep sleep so adding a bit more to your body exogenously (from outside the body) via injection will 'induce' more 'delta sleep' (deep sleep for recovery). Peptides are little 'instructions' for your body/cells/brain etc that are usually already found in the body and provide further instruction to get the desired result. DSIP is an amino acid chain that is only 15 amino acids long.

That is DSIP in a layman's nutshell.

Now you get to do a search on GH (human growth hormone or just 'GH' or 'HGH' for short lingo) and get your EVO brain working! Spoiler alert: it works amazing depending on your age and needs to be run at least 6+ months or it's not worth it. Pop Quiz: GH is sometimes labeled as 191AA. AA stands for amino acid so could GH be one of the longer exceptions of an amino acid chain more than 50-70 AA's long?

Don't be overwhelmed, when I came on here I didn't know any of this stuff. We can start off with getting you becoming an expert of your diet and macros.

 

[R3DUB]

Great first log post my brother!!! Makes me happy to see when someone moves from one thread they started on right into their log like this, welcome to the EVO family! We got your back.

Your transformation is already amazingly impressive and I applaud you for it big time. I know what it's like to have to lose 80lbs when you've let yourself go. Great work.

I saw you said you were a newbie but you're in the best place to be a newbie. When I came on EVO I thought I knew my shit and didn't consider myself a newbie and quickly realized I was. Now that I've been on EVO for a bit it goes next level day after day with the knowledge and camaraderie one gains on here. It truly will change your life if you go headlong into what EVO offers.

So, my fellow newbie... we can start your learning journey with GH and DSIP since you hadn't heard of it.

First, they are peptides (small, usually less than amino acid chains less than 60-70 long that 'instruct' your 'system' to 'do something') and have become wildly popular because they work. Many haven't heard of them because Big Pharma knows they work and it would shut them down with the other drugs they currently pump out.

DSIP stands for Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide. It's a (nona)peptide that helps encourage deep sleep by being more abundant when used exogenously (ie: taken via subQ injection - a tiny little insulin needle into your fat at super small doses). Your brain makes this to get you into deep sleep so adding a bit more to your body exogenously (from outside the body) via injection will 'induce' more 'delta sleep' (deep sleep for recovery). Peptides are little 'instructions' for your body/cells/brain etc that are usually already found in the body and provide further instruction to get the desired result. DSIP is an amino acid chain that is only 15 amino acids long.

That is DSIP in a layman's nutshell.

Now you get to do a search on GH (human growth hormone or just 'GH' or 'HGH' for short lingo) and get your EVO brain working! Spoiler alert: it works amazing depending on your age and needs to be run at least 6+ months or it's not worth it. Pop Quiz: GH is sometimes labeled as 191AA. AA stands for amino acid so could GH be one of the longer exceptions of an amino acid chain more than 50-70 AA's long?

Don't be overwhelmed, when I came on here I didn't know any of this stuff. We can start off with getting you becoming an expert of your diet and macros.

Thanks for the pump up and concise info brother!

Regarding the GH, as someone who hasn't even looked into it, can you give me a breakdown of protocol on how to run it? Timing, dosages, regularity, side effects, what to look out for, etc?

I've always been a bit wary of stuff like that cause I think 'GH is kinda like gear' and I've heard so many horror stories of the repercussions of it

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks for the pump up and concise info brother!

Regarding the GH, as someone who hasn't even looked into it, can you give me a breakdown of protocol on how to run it? Timing, dosages, regularity, side effects, what to look out for, etc?

I've always been a bit wary of stuff like that cause I think 'GH is kinda like gear' and I've heard so many horror stories of the repercussions of it

Any horror stories you've heard about GH are bullsh*t bro. Repeat one horror story for me and I'll pick it apart as to why it wasn't because of GH.

There are some arguments about timing of GH but it's my firm belief it is best used bolus (all at once) at night and in your case 2iu is a great start. At 2iu there's not much to 'look out for' but once you increase the dose we can see if you start retaining water (it's not much at all). You're almost 40 yrs old so you're right on the cusp of starting to actually 'need' GH if you want to stay feeling and performing like you used to. It's a health and longevity peptide and is not an anabolic steroid. Steroids have a cholesterol backbone and GH is a peptide amino acid chain that helps with fat loss, sleep, and can help with hyperplasia (new muscle cells). In a bodybuilding context if you're using gear then hyperplasia allows the gear with resistance training to increase the size of these new muscle cells (via GH use), not unlike how when we lose body fat our fat cells shrink but don't always 'disappear'. Without gear use you'd still get the lipolysis and sleep benefits at your age (lipolysis=fat burning) so it's still very beneficial without gear but stacks with gear in a 1+1=3 kinda way.

The last thing GH is 'kinda like' is gear so don't believe where you've heard that; it's nothing like gear, doesn't do hardly anything at all that gear does and has next to zero impact on your bloods except your blood glucose levels which at your dose shouldn't be an issue especially if your diet is in check anyway.

There are lots of EVO podcasts about GH and I've linked one of many below for example.

https://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-org-podcast-362-human-growth-hormone-hgh-show/

 

[stevesmi]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

@R3DUB you want to give the reta some time to leave your system. It's got a long half-life so ideally you want to stay on it for 6-9 months when you cycle it.

 

[ceo]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

Bros, I'm surprised you want to drop more weight. @R3DUB you already look pretty lean as it is.

 

[R3DUB]

Bros, I'm surprised you want to drop more weight. @R3DUB you already look pretty lean as it is.

It's less about dropping weight in kilos, more about losing the excess fat around the lower abdomen and love handles, my weight as a number doesn't really faze me

 

[R3DUB]

Any horror stories you've heard about GH are bullsh*t bro. Repeat one horror story for me and I'll pick it apart as to why it wasn't because of GH.

There are some arguments about timing of GH but it's my firm belief it is best used bolus (all at once) at night and in your case 2iu is a great start. At 2iu there's not much to 'look out for' but once you increase the dose we can see if you start retaining water (it's not much at all). You're almost 40 yrs old so you're right on the cusp of starting to actually 'need' GH if you want to stay feeling and performing like you used to. It's a health and longevity peptide and is not an anabolic steroid. Steroids have a cholesterol backbone and GH is a peptide amino acid chain that helps with fat loss, sleep, and can help with hyperplasia (new muscle cells). In a bodybuilding context if you're using gear then hyperplasia allows the gear with resistance training to increase the size of these new muscle cells (via GH use), not unlike how when we lose body fat our fat cells shrink but don't always 'disappear'. Without gear use you'd still get the lipolysis and sleep benefits at your age (lipolysis=fat burning) so it's still very beneficial without gear but stacks with gear in a 1+1=3 kinda way.

The last thing GH is 'kinda like' is gear so don't believe where you've heard that; it's nothing like gear, doesn't do hardly anything at all that gear does and has next to zero impact on your bloods except your blood glucose levels which at your dose shouldn't be an issue especially if your diet is in check anyway.

There are lots of EVO podcasts about GH and I've linked one of many below for example.

https://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-org-podcast-362-human-growth-hormone-hgh-show/

Thanks man, I'll definitely look into it!

 

[waggat]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

Hey mate, welcome to Evo.

Your progress so far is very impressive! Pretty much a whole new person.

I know you said you don't really care about getting bigger BUT gaining muscle is the best way to get and stay leaner and look better.

Can you post your typical daily macros. Making sure you get enough protein is very important.

Your workout setup isn't too bad. My only comments would be: as you get stronger, 3-on 1-off can lead to accumulation of fatigue and a separate arms day isn't the best as the other two days end up harder. Push, pull, legs might be better.

What's up with your shoulder? Have you seen anyone about it or tried manual therapy?

 

[R3DUB]

Hey mate, welcome to Evo.

Your progress so far is very impressive! Pretty much a whole new person.

I know you said you don't really care about getting bigger BUT gaining muscle is the best way to get and stay leaner and look better.

Can you post your typical daily macros. Making sure you get enough protein is very important.

Your workout setup isn't too bad. My only comments would be: as you get stronger, 3-on 1-off can lead to accumulation of fatigue and a separate arms day isn't the best as the other two days end up harder. Push, pull, legs might be better.

What's up with your shoulder? Have you seen anyone about it or tried manual therapy?

I aim for a minimum 1800 cal a day, with at least 160g of protein a day, which I pretty much always hit. Typically I struggle to get more calories than that in due to being on Reta, I physically cannot stomach more food, hence the reason why I want to either completely drop it now that I've hit a solid foundational size, or at the very least drop it down to a lower dosage, maybe 1 or even 0.5 a week. It will be an experiment to find that sweet spot of controlling the boredom eating and still being able to hit decent macros.

I ran PPL for a couple months and honestly, I just wanted to switch it up. I'm really enjoying the split im currently doing, and with my ADHD brain if it's working I'll stick with it.

The shoulder was from trying to act 20 years younger than I actually was my son was big into skate parks at the time and I wanted to try and join in and bought a BMX...then promptly landed hard onto concrete from a 5 foot drop haha! On a day to day basis, it doesn't bother me at all, I've just noticed now that I've started to try and push bigger weights, it tends to crack and cream and definitely isn't as strong as my left side. I honestly don't remember what scans I had done at the time, I definitely did but it was so long ago I can't remember, and again, up until recently it hadn't bothered me so I didn't do anything about it. At this point I'd say it's probably a reconstruction to truly fix it and I can't afford that kinda time off. I should probably speak to a physio about it though

 

[Mobster]

Well done on the progress to date - let's go!

 

[Freki]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

Welcome bro,

Great progress already, thats a big drop

Ipamorelen tesamoralon are puss mate
Cheaper and better to run GH

 

[2Thick]

It's less about dropping weight in kilos, more about losing the excess fat around the lower abdomen and love handles, my weight as a number doesn't really faze me

@R3DUB it's much easier to focus on one goal rather than trying to mix up a bunch of goals if that makes sense. If you want to lose body fat, stick to that 100% and you're not gonna go wrong with dialing in your cardio, your diet, and using reta.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

Sorry about your sleep issues. Hopefully on this log you can improve it. I think that that's going to make a huge difference in your recovery and in your results. @R3DUB

 

[ceo]

It's less about dropping weight in kilos, more about losing the excess fat around the lower abdomen and love handles, my weight as a number doesn't really faze me

Bros, I get what you're saying. For sure it's like that when most of us on here

 

[HarleyGuy]

It will be an experiment to find that sweet spot of controlling the boredom eating and still being able to hit decent macros.

Once you have come to a space in your mind where eating is boring and you accept that then your progress will be that much easier. I no longer have any emotional attachment to food at all.

I aim for a minimum 1800 cal a day, with at least 160g of protein a day, which I pretty much always hit.

Could we bump your protein to 200g ED and lower fats by 5g ED? With your goals I think this will be a good idea.

 

[R3DUB]

Once you have come to a space in your mind where eating is boring and you accept that then your progress will be that much easier. I no longer have any emotional attachment to food at all.


Could we bump your protein to 200g ED and lower fats by 5g ED? With your goals I think this will be a good idea.

I wouldn't say I have any emotional attachment to food, my biggest problem was always eating out of habit. Have dinner, raid the pantry after just for something to do haha! The reta has definitely helped with that.

I absolutely could do that, for interests sake, I've attached a pic of my diet diary on a random day, I know the calories count on it is stupid low but it has the macro breakdown on it for percentage sakes, I actually don't consume a lot of fat anyway

 

[R3DUB]

Bros, I get what you're saying. For sure it's like that when most of us on here

Oh I 100% get that! If I was to stay the weight I am in kilos, or even put on a tenner, but maintain the waist I currently have, id be more than happy with that.

 

[R3DUB]

Sorry about your sleep issues. Hopefully on this log you can improve it. I think that that's going to make a huge difference in your recovery and in your results. @R3DUB

Ah that's alright mate, appreciate the support! I've dealt with sleep issues for as long as I can remember. I think 50% of it is just mental, my subconscious mind always being paranoid about sleeping in for work on top of having an overexcited bladder that wakes me up for a piss at least once a night, haha!

 

[waggat]

I aim for a minimum 1800 cal a day, with at least 160g of protein a day, which I pretty much always hit. Typically I struggle to get more calories than that in due to being on Reta, I physically cannot stomach more food, hence the reason why I want to either completely drop it now that I've hit a solid foundational size, or at the very least drop it down to a lower dosage, maybe 1 or even 0.5 a week. It will be an experiment to find that sweet spot of controlling the boredom eating and still being able to hit decent macros.

I ran PPL for a couple months and honestly, I just wanted to switch it up. I'm really enjoying the split im currently doing, and with my ADHD brain if it's working I'll stick with it.

The shoulder was from trying to act 20 years younger than I actually was my son was big into skate parks at the time and I wanted to try and join in and bought a BMX...then promptly landed hard onto concrete from a 5 foot drop haha! On a day to day basis, it doesn't bother me at all, I've just noticed now that I've started to try and push bigger weights, it tends to crack and cream and definitely isn't as strong as my left side. I honestly don't remember what scans I had done at the time, I definitely did but it was so long ago I can't remember, and again, up until recently it hadn't bothered me so I didn't do anything about it. At this point I'd say it's probably a reconstruction to truly fix it and I can't afford that kinda time off. I should probably speak to a physio about it though

Yeah I think now that you are so much leaner, upping the cals a bit makes sense to preserve (and preferably help build) muscle. Dropping the Reta dose a bit so you can get the cals and protein in is worth trying I reckon.

All good re the training. Arms days are definitely I nice change of pace!

 

[G-Merc 80]

Mate killer start to your log, you have made HUGE progress already and speaking from experience its not always easy; I will be following your journey.

Welcome to the Evo family brother.

 

[R3DUB]

Mate killer start to your log, you have made HUGE progress already and speaking from experience its not always easy; I will be following your journey.

Welcome to the Evo family brother.

Cheers brother, appreciate the pump up

 

[ceo]

Oh I 100% get that! If I was to stay the weight I am in kilos, or even put on a tenner, but maintain the waist I currently have, id be more than happy with that.

Bros, I give you a lot of credit. That's what I like to see.

 

[Yeahnah]

Following along bro

how long have you been on Tesamorelin for now?

 

[ROIDDERS]

Ah that's alright mate, appreciate the support! I've dealt with sleep issues for as long as I can remember. I think 50% of it is just mental, my subconscious mind always being paranoid about sleeping in for work on top of having an overexcited bladder that wakes me up for a piss at least once a night, haha!

Sleep issues definitely add up over time. Hopefully you can work on that as part of this log.

 

[R3DUB]

Following along bro

how long have you been on Tesamorelin for now?

3 weeks so far, started on a 1mg/day dose for the first week, then upped it to 1.5 for the weeks 2 and 3, gonna run it at 2mg a day for the foreseeable future as that seems to be the sweet spot. From all the research I've read online doing more than that isn't advised as it's diminishing returns.

Obviously it's early on so can't speak to the results as of yet, but I've definitely noticed a bit more definition in the muscle I have, the visceral fat loss, maybe a little? From what I can gather, it's weeks 4-8 where it becomes noticeable. I'll keep you informed of how it goes

 

[Yeahnah]

3 weeks so far, started on a 1mg/day dose for the first week, then upped it to 1.5 for the weeks 2 and 3, gonna run it at 2mg a day for the foreseeable future as that seems to be the sweet spot. From all the research I've read online doing more than that isn't advised as it's diminishing returns.

Obviously it's early on so can't speak to the results as of yet, but I've definitely noticed a bit more definition in the muscle I have, the visceral fat loss, maybe a little? From what I can gather, it's weeks 4-8 where it becomes noticeable. I'll keep you informed of how it goes

Yeah sounds good brother

I’m week 1 into tesa myself so I’ll be following closely bro.

Not sure if you have already watched it but I found this video on the page here I thought was pretty helpful. I was going to do the 5on2off protocol but now just going to do daily pinning personally.

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[R3DUB]

Yeah sounds good brother

I’m week 1 into tesa myself so I’ll be following closely bro.

Not sure if you have already watched it but I found this video on the page here I thought was pretty helpful. I was going to do the 5on2off protocol but now just going to do daily pinning personally.

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I was considering running it daily but I want to give my body a break over the weekends. Also would start turning into more than a vial a week at 2mg and that starts getting pricey haha

 

[ballin2504]

Hey guys,

I guess this is my introduction to the forum. A bit about me!
39 years old from Australia

I've been overweight for as long as I can remember, going back as far as 12 years old. I was always the 'fat kid' in high school.

Started my weight loss journey in August 2025 after being sick of looking in the mirror at how big I'd gotten. At that point I was floating around the 102-105kg mark with a little muscle from having a physical job (I'm been an automotive spray painter for the last 20 odd years).

I joined my local gym and starting counting calories pretty religiously up until December where I managed to get down to around 87-89 kg, not a bad effort but I still had that persistant fat around the waistline that I just couldn't budge, mostly because of the food cravings from the calorie cut I had put myself in. I am, by nature, a snacker and boredom eater.

This is when I decided to try Reta after talking to a work mate about it. He had lost a bunch of weight and I suspected he had used Reta to drop the weight so quickly as he was heavier than I was. Up until that point, I had done everything naturally.

I bit the bullet and jumped on at the start of January. Within a few weeks I managed to drop another 8-9kg with ease, the food cravings were gone, the discipline had really set in and the metabolism was obviously refiring up, as I didn't overly cut more calories to achieve this.

During this time, I have tried several other peptides, including Mots-C, CJC/ipamorelin blend, tesamorelin and have started on 5amino1mq

Come the start of this month (5th March as of time of writing), I am now floating around a comfortable 75-77kg with some nice muscle defintion coming in, including seeing my abs for the first time since I was single digits age! If I was to maintain this weight and muscle mass for the rest of my life, I'd be more than happy with what I've achieved. I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still, and put on a bit more size around the chest and shoulders as they've always been my weakest point.

---DIET---
I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

---SUPPLEMENTS---
Creatine 7g daily with 30g protein shake
Vitamin C
Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)
Vitamin B12
Glucosamine HCL
High strength fish oil 2x daily
3 tsp benefiber and/or metamucil 2x daily
Magnesium sulfate with bouts of insomnia (have always been a shit sleeper)
Digestive enzyme 3x daily with meals to counteract the slower digestion from Reta
Probiotics

---TRAINING---
I'm at the gym every day, on a 3 day weights split (day 1: back chest and shoulder, day 2: legs. day 3: arms and core) with the fourth day being a stretch and cardio day (low impact incline walking or cycling, can't run cause of crook knees). Rinse and repeat. Proper rest day every few weeks. Have been almost 100% consistent since joining back up athe gym in August.

My right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed. You can actually see a big dip between my right trap and delt. This has caused me issues with trying to lift heavier in pressing movements which I feel is what's holding me back from really blowing up these muscles. Try to compensate for that by lighter weights for more reps. I'm hoping with another 6-12 months under my belt I'll be able to eventually lift heavier.

---SLEEP---
This has always been an issue for me, getting more than 6 hours a night uninterrupted is a blessing I rarely receive. I constantly wake during the night and have tried several remedies, none of which have truly helped. I have actually introduced DSIP into my stack to see if it will help but I've heard mixed things about it so I'm not holding my breath, haha!

---CYCLE---
Aight, the big one:
2mg reta once a week - 7 weeks on (currently cycling off of it to see how my appetite reacts and if I stack a bunch of weight on, am open to getting back on it)
5mg MOTS-C, split over three doses a week (currently off cycle, ran for 5 weeks at a low dose of 2.5mg a week, will be back on in 3 weeks)
Tesamorelin 1mg daily - 3 weeks on on a 5 on/2 off
CJC/Ipamorelin blend 0.3mg daily- ran for 5 weeks before running out and my vendor ran out of stock, not currently interested in getting back on for now, may in future
5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase
DSIP for sleep as needed, still wondering if this is going to help my sleep

Currently don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

I've attached some photos for tracking purposes and progression.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, haha! Looking forward to being part of the community!

@R3DUB nice start to the log. Let’s see you kill this.

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Ah that's alright mate, appreciate the support! I've dealt with sleep issues for as long as I can remember. I think 50% of it is just mental, my subconscious mind always being paranoid about sleeping in for work on top of having an overexcited bladder that wakes me up for a piss at least once a night, haha!

@R3DUB bro start doing meditation before bedtime....it will help with deep sleep.....

 

[HarleyGuy]

5amino-1mq 0.5mg daily - only just started this, interested in this for the BMR increase

With the 5Amino dose where are you at with this bro? I remember you were asking about it here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/5amino-1mq-dosing.109632/

 

[R3DUB]

With the 5Amino dose where are you at with this bro? I remember you were asking about it here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/5amino-1mq-dosing.109632/

On week two mate, running 1mg am daily, so far nothing noticeable, maybe a little more energy? It's supposed to help with BMR so I guess we'll have to wait and see I've also increased my calories and protein to 2000 and 200+ respectively, so I'm gonna keep an eye on my waistline to see whether I start putting on more weight around the midline

 

[R3DUB]

Greetings fellow bio hackers and strength gainers, thought I'd give a little update on how things are going as it's been a couple of weeks since I posted my log!

My weight seems to have stabilised at around the 76-77kg mark, which is totally fine, anything less than that and I think it would be genuinely unhealthy. This is also while cycling off the reta (running 1mg a week for another week, then down to 0.5 for 2 then should be off.)

Appetite has returned but not dangerously so, I'm not raiding the pantry after meals of buying unnecessary snacks so it's obviously done its job which I'm stoked about!

One big thing I've noticed is my sleep if finally improving! Not sure what's the catalyst for this, but I have been taking magnesium glysinate capsules before bed, and I think that's played a big role in it. Still tend to wake up once or twice a night but I'm getting back to sleep much easier now which is a huge improvement. I have used a powdered form in the past without much luck so maybe I was just not taking enough?

I'm on week two now of the GHK and one of my fellow peptide explorers has noticed an obvious difference in my skin which is surprising cause I can't see it. Obviously no changes with the hairline yet but that's to be expected. I'll attach a photo of it from week 0 for posterity. I'll give a monthly update on this, as most evidence I've been able to find seems to point to the 8-12 week mark before people started noticing a difference.

The shoulder is now being treated by a physio, luckily there wasn't any real damage from my bike accident years ago, the impingement seems to be more a weakness and tightness in the rotator cuff and surrounding muscles, so hopefully with a few months of rehab, conditioning and stretching I should be able to start pushing heavier and get those sweet shoulder boulders that being said, I'm running TB500 to help boost it along although I've held off on the BPC for now as I don't think it will help with it, although I have a vial of it on hand if the need arises.

The 5amino...yeah I'm not sure it's doing much to be honest, running 1mg daily and I'm not sure if it's accomplishing anything, so will probably drop that out of my cycle. I am running mots-c for a 4 week cycle so that will probably replace that for now. May run a cycle of ss31 for the mitochondrial repair after that, don't wanna keep putting them on blast haha!

Now the big one, tesa. Seriously considering swapping it for HGH. On week 6 of it, I plan to run it for at least 8, but For the visceral fat loss, I'm not sure if it's helping much, plus it's getting expensive to continue running. At 80 a week, I'm wondering if I'd get more out of a low-mid dose of HGH instead, especially for the strength gains. Anyone had experience in making the switch and what their experience was like?

Should also mention I plan on getting my bloods done at the end of week 8 of tesa, and would love some help on what exactly I should be getting tested as I've never done it before.

Cheers guys!

 

[Yeahnah]

Greetings fellow bio hackers and strength gainers, thought I'd give a little update on how things are going as it's been a couple of weeks since I posted my log!

My weight seems to have stabilised at around the 76-77kg mark, which is totally fine, anything less than that and I think it would be genuinely unhealthy. This is also while cycling off the reta (running 1mg a week for another week, then down to 0.5 for 2 then should be off.)

Appetite has returned but not dangerously so, I'm not raiding the pantry after meals of buying unnecessary snacks so it's obviously done its job which I'm stoked about!

One big thing I've noticed is my sleep if finally improving! Not sure what's the catalyst for this, but I have been taking magnesium glysinate capsules before bed, and I think that's played a big role in it. Still tend to wake up once or twice a night but I'm getting back to sleep much easier now which is a huge improvement. I have used a powdered form in the past without much luck so maybe I was just not taking enough?

I'm on week two now of the GHK and one of my fellow peptide explorers has noticed an obvious difference in my skin which is surprising cause I can't see it. Obviously no changes with the hairline yet but that's to be expected. I'll attach a photo of it from week 0 for posterity. I'll give a monthly update on this, as most evidence I've been able to find seems to point to the 8-12 week mark before people started noticing a difference.

The shoulder is now being treated by a physio, luckily there wasn't any real damage from my bike accident years ago, the impingement seems to be more a weakness and tightness in the rotator cuff and surrounding muscles, so hopefully with a few months of rehab, conditioning and stretching I should be able to start pushing heavier and get those sweet shoulder boulders that being said, I'm running TB500 to help boost it along although I've held off on the BPC for now as I don't think it will help with it, although I have a vial of it on hand if the need arises.

The 5amino...yeah I'm not sure it's doing much to be honest, running 1mg daily and I'm not sure if it's accomplishing anything, so will probably drop that out of my cycle. I am running mots-c for a 4 week cycle so that will probably replace that for now. May run a cycle of ss31 for the mitochondrial repair after that, don't wanna keep putting them on blast haha!

Now the big one, tesa. Seriously considering swapping it for HGH. On week 6 of it, I plan to run it for at least 8, but For the visceral fat loss, I'm not sure if it's helping much, plus it's getting expensive to continue running. At 80 a week, I'm wondering if I'd get more out of a low-mid dose of HGH instead, especially for the strength gains. Anyone had experience in making the switch and what their experience was like?

Should also mention I plan on getting my bloods done at the end of week 8 of tesa, and would love some help on what exactly I should be getting tested as I've never done it before.

Cheers guys!

This is the bloods I get - https://imedical.com.au/order/blood...private-blood-tests/bb5-steroid-blood-testing

 

[R3DUB]

This is the bloods I get - https://imedical.com.au/order/blood...private-blood-tests/bb5-steroid-blood-testing

Cheers brother! How often are you getting them done?

 

[LevButlerov]

Greetings fellow bio hackers and strength gainers, thought I'd give a little update on how things are going as it's been a couple of weeks since I posted my log!

My weight seems to have stabilised at around the 76-77kg mark, which is totally fine, anything less than that and I think it would be genuinely unhealthy. This is also while cycling off the reta (running 1mg a week for another week, then down to 0.5 for 2 then should be off.)

Appetite has returned but not dangerously so, I'm not raiding the pantry after meals of buying unnecessary snacks so it's obviously done its job which I'm stoked about!

One big thing I've noticed is my sleep if finally improving! Not sure what's the catalyst for this, but I have been taking magnesium glysinate capsules before bed, and I think that's played a big role in it. Still tend to wake up once or twice a night but I'm getting back to sleep much easier now which is a huge improvement. I have used a powdered form in the past without much luck so maybe I was just not taking enough?

I'm on week two now of the GHK and one of my fellow peptide explorers has noticed an obvious difference in my skin which is surprising cause I can't see it. Obviously no changes with the hairline yet but that's to be expected. I'll attach a photo of it from week 0 for posterity. I'll give a monthly update on this, as most evidence I've been able to find seems to point to the 8-12 week mark before people started noticing a difference.

The shoulder is now being treated by a physio, luckily there wasn't any real damage from my bike accident years ago, the impingement seems to be more a weakness and tightness in the rotator cuff and surrounding muscles, so hopefully with a few months of rehab, conditioning and stretching I should be able to start pushing heavier and get those sweet shoulder boulders that being said, I'm running TB500 to help boost it along although I've held off on the BPC for now as I don't think it will help with it, although I have a vial of it on hand if the need arises.

The 5amino...yeah I'm not sure it's doing much to be honest, running 1mg daily and I'm not sure if it's accomplishing anything, so will probably drop that out of my cycle. I am running mots-c for a 4 week cycle so that will probably replace that for now. May run a cycle of ss31 for the mitochondrial repair after that, don't wanna keep putting them on blast haha!

Now the big one, tesa. Seriously considering swapping it for HGH. On week 6 of it, I plan to run it for at least 8, but For the visceral fat loss, I'm not sure if it's helping much, plus it's getting expensive to continue running. At 80 a week, I'm wondering if I'd get more out of a low-mid dose of HGH instead, especially for the strength gains. Anyone had experience in making the switch and what their experience was like?

Should also mention I plan on getting my bloods done at the end of week 8 of tesa, and would love some help on what exactly I should be getting tested as I've never done it before.

Cheers guys!

good to see you update us @R3DUB but how is your food trianing going? can you start posting some details
and bloods see @Yeahnah link

This is the bloods I get - https://imedical.com.au/order/blood...private-blood-tests/bb5-steroid-blood-testing

 

[R3DUB]

good to see you update us @R3DUB but how is your food trianing going? can you start posting some details
and bloods see @Yeahnah link

Hey mate, I'm planning on getting my bloods done asap, will post the results once I get them

As for food, diet hasn't really changed much, can finally eat larger portions without feeling like I'm carrying a watermelon in my guts which is nice, haha! Probably the only major change is swapping potatoes out of my lunches to mixed veg such as capsicum, red onions, garlic, zucchini etc. Also cut down the fats, not that it was high to begin with but I'm aiming for more carbs instead while still maintaining a 200g+ protein intake

Weight training has remained the same, although I'm gonna be swapping to a PPL x UL as of next week to better fit into my work and life schedule.

 

[Yeahnah]

Cheers brother! How often are you getting them done?

I go every 6 weeks which lines up with my cycles while I'm experimenting out different peptides make sure nothing is out of range. That test will cover you for everything and then just hide all your personal details and post up here and the guys can give you a good understanding of what all the markers mean for you.

 

[R3DUB]

I go every 6 weeks which lines up with my cycles while I'm experimenting out different peptides make sure nothing is out of range. That test will cover you for everything and then just hide all your personal details and post up here and the guys can give you a good understanding of what all the markers mean for you.

Cheers brother! Every 6 weeks would start to get exxy, haha!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey mate, I'm planning on getting my bloods done asap, will post the results once I get them

As for food, diet hasn't really changed much, can finally eat larger portions without feeling like I'm carrying a watermelon in my guts which is nice, haha! Probably the only major change is swapping potatoes out of my lunches to mixed veg such as capsicum, red onions, garlic, zucchini etc. Also cut down the fats, not that it was high to begin with but I'm aiming for more carbs instead while still maintaining a 200g+ protein intake

Weight training has remained the same, although I'm gonna be swapping to a PPL x UL as of next week to better fit into my work and life schedule.

lets get blood and share @R3DUB

can you start using app and updating details please this is way too wide to discuss

 

[R3DUB]

lets get blood and share @R3DUB

can you start using app and updating details please this is way too wide to discuss

No probs, I'll take some screenshots of my workouts and diet diary when I get home tonight

 

[LevButlerov]

No probs, I'll take some screenshots of my workouts and diet diary when I get home tonight

thank you

 

[R3DUB]

Aight, here's a bunch of screenshots of what my new workout routine will be Monday through Sunday, it's too hard to capture the full routine for each day in the app I use, but every exercise will have one warmup set and two-three sets to failure with descending weight (starting heavy, going lighter). Monday and Friday will be dedicated cardio days, and Tuesday to Thursday, PPL, Sat and Sun UL.

Alternatively, if you use the Hevy app yourself, you can follow me at r3dub

Also attached a couple of days worth of my diet diary. I'm not always consistent with entering dinners so there's a lot of blanks day to day, I normally work it out on the fly in the evenings.

Also also attached the recipes for my weekday lunches if your curious as to what's in it, macros, etc

Feedbacks always welcome!

 

[R3DUB]

Have also just ordered my blood test referral, will get it done this Saturday so hopefully have some results mid-late next week

 

[LevButlerov]

Aight, here's a bunch of screenshots of what my new workout routine will be Monday through Sunday, it's too hard to capture the full routine for each day in the app I use, but every exercise will have one warmup set and two-three sets to failure with descending weight (starting heavy, going lighter). Monday and Friday will be dedicated cardio days, and Tuesday to Thursday, PPL, Sat and Sun UL.

Alternatively, if you use the Hevy app yourself, you can follow me at r3dub

Also attached a couple of days worth of my diet diary. I'm not always consistent with entering dinners so there's a lot of blanks day to day, I normally work it out on the fly in the evenings.

Also also attached the recipes for my weekday lunches if your curious as to what's in it, macros, etc

Feedbacks always welcome!

Have also just ordered my blood test referral, will get it done this Saturday so hopefully have some results mid-late next week

good info but tbh doesnt say much about weights or sets or reps hard to say you're progress this way you see why right? @R3DUB

 

[R3DUB]

good info but tbh doesnt say much about weights or sets or reps hard to say you're progress this way you see why right? @R3DUB

Yeah I know, but I'd be uploading four screenshots per workout day for that over my original six days split, that's a lotta pics haha!

I can if you like, although downloading the Hevy app and following me (it's free) is probably the easiest way to view my previous workouts, they should all be logged from when I started back at the gym back in August.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah I know, but I'd be uploading four screenshots per workout day for that over my original six days split, that's a lotta pics haha!

I can if you like, although downloading the Hevy app and following me (it's free) is probably the easiest way to view my previous workouts, they should all be logged from when I started back at the gym back in August.

perfect get it up

 

[RedNeck]

Keen to follow along bro! Had a gander at the log, looking the goods my man!

 

[CookieBaah]

Yeah I know, but I'd be uploading four screenshots per workout day for that over my original six days split, that's a lotta pics haha!

I can if you like, although downloading the Hevy app and following me (it's free) is probably the easiest way to view my previous workouts, they should all be logged from when I started back at the gym back in August.

Hey brother, drop the screen shots into ChatGpt, and ask it to put it into a written format
Then save each day to notes in your phone.

 

[R3DUB]

Hey brother, drop the screen shots into ChatGpt, and ask it to put it into a written format
Then save each day to notes in your phone.

@LevButlerov, apparently ChatGpt can do the heavy lifting, thanks @CookieBaah​

Orders a little out of whack, the exercises with warm up sets were first​

Triceps Pushdown​

• Set 1: 32.5 kg × 11
• Set 2: 32.5 kg × 9
• Set 3: 28.75 kg × 9

Total sets: 3

---

Side Bend (Dumbbell)​

• Set 1: 22.5 kg × 10
• Set 2: 22.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 2

---

Lateral Raise (Cable)​

• Set 1: 5 kg × 12
• Set 2: 3.75 kg × 12
• Set 3: 2.5 kg × 12

Total sets: 3

---

Rear Delt Reverse Fly (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 19 kg × 6
• Warm-up: 26 kg × 6
• Set 1: 61 kg × 10
• Set 2: 61 kg × 8
• Set 3: 54 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Preacher Curl (Barbell)​

• Set 1: 20 kg × 8
• Set 2: 15 kg × 6
• Set 3: 10 kg × 8

Total sets: 3

---

Single Arm Triceps Pushdown (Cable)​

• Warm-up: 5 kg × 6
• Warm-up: 7.5 kg × 6
• Set 1: 17.5 kg × 6
• Set 2: 15 kg × 8
• Set 3: 12.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)​

• Warm-up: 5 kg × 6
• Warm-up: 7.5 kg × 8
• Set 1: 20 kg × 7
• Set 2: 17.5 kg × 9
• Set 3: 15 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Quick Summary​

• Total exercises: 7
• Total sets (including warm-ups): 26
• Warm-up sets: 6
• Working sets: 20

 

[R3DUB]

Legs​

---

Calf Extension (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 12.5 kg × 20
• Set 1: 27.5 kg × 20
• Set 2: 65 kg × 20
• Set 3: 72.5 kg × 20

Total sets: 4 (1 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Seated Leg Curl (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 19 kg × 8
• Warm-up: 26 kg × 8
• Set 1: 54 kg × 12
• Set 2: 56.5 kg × 12

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Hip Adduction (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 7 kg × 8
• Warm-up: 14 kg × 8
• Set 1: 42 kg × 12
• Set 2: 44.5 kg × 8

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Leg Extension (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 12 kg × 10
• Warm-up: 26 kg × 6
• Set 1: 60 kg × 10
• Set 2: 54 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Quick Summary​

• Total exercises: 4
• Total sets (including warm-ups): 16
• Warm-up sets: 7
• Working sets: 9

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov, apparently ChatGpt can do the heavy lifting, thanks @CookieBaah​

Orders a little out of whack, the exercises with warm up sets were first​

Triceps Pushdown​

• Set 1: 32.5 kg × 11
• Set 2: 32.5 kg × 9
• Set 3: 28.75 kg × 9

Total sets: 3

---

Side Bend (Dumbbell)​

• Set 1: 22.5 kg × 10
• Set 2: 22.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 2

---

Lateral Raise (Cable)​

• Set 1: 5 kg × 12
• Set 2: 3.75 kg × 12
• Set 3: 2.5 kg × 12

Total sets: 3

---

Rear Delt Reverse Fly (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 19 kg × 6
• Warm-up: 26 kg × 6
• Set 1: 61 kg × 10
• Set 2: 61 kg × 8
• Set 3: 54 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Preacher Curl (Barbell)​

• Set 1: 20 kg × 8
• Set 2: 15 kg × 6
• Set 3: 10 kg × 8

Total sets: 3

---

Single Arm Triceps Pushdown (Cable)​

• Warm-up: 5 kg × 6
• Warm-up: 7.5 kg × 6
• Set 1: 17.5 kg × 6
• Set 2: 15 kg × 8
• Set 3: 12.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)​

• Warm-up: 5 kg × 6
• Warm-up: 7.5 kg × 8
• Set 1: 20 kg × 7
• Set 2: 17.5 kg × 9
• Set 3: 15 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Quick Summary​

• Total exercises: 7
• Total sets (including warm-ups): 26
• Warm-up sets: 6
• Working sets: 20

Legs​

---

Calf Extension (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 12.5 kg × 20
• Set 1: 27.5 kg × 20
• Set 2: 65 kg × 20
• Set 3: 72.5 kg × 20

Total sets: 4 (1 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Seated Leg Curl (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 19 kg × 8
• Warm-up: 26 kg × 8
• Set 1: 54 kg × 12
• Set 2: 56.5 kg × 12

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Hip Adduction (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 7 kg × 8
• Warm-up: 14 kg × 8
• Set 1: 42 kg × 12
• Set 2: 44.5 kg × 8

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Leg Extension (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 12 kg × 10
• Warm-up: 26 kg × 6
• Set 1: 60 kg × 10
• Set 2: 54 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Quick Summary​

• Total exercises: 4
• Total sets (including warm-ups): 16
• Warm-up sets: 7
• Working sets: 9

we get red flags due to ai use here @R3DUB but this is input how? please paste what you input into the chat box I'm curious

 

[R3DUB]

Back / Chest / Shoulders​

---

Seated Cable Row – Bar Wide Grip​

• Warm-up: 6.25 kg × 10
• Set 1: 10 kg × 10
• Set 2: 27.5 kg × 10
• Set 3: 23.75 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (1 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)​

• Warm-up: 2 kg × 12
• Warm-up: 4 kg × 12
• Set 1: 8 kg × 12
• Set 2: 6 kg × 12

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Chest Fly (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 19 kg × 8
• Warm-up: 33 kg × 8
• Set 1: 61 kg × 8
• Set 2: 56.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Iso-Lateral High Row (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 20 lbs × 8
• Warm-up: 30 lbs × 8
• Set 1: 70 lbs × 10
• Set 2: 60 lbs × 7

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Seated Shoulder Press (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 10 kg × 10
• Warm-up: 15 kg × 8
• Set 1: 34.5 kg × 10
• Set 2: 27.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Incline Chest Press (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 9.07 kg × 10
• Warm-up: 13.61 kg × 10
• Set 1: 27.22 kg × 10
• Set 2: 31.75 kg × 10
• Set 3: 36.29 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Quick Summary​

• Total exercises: 6
• Total sets (including warm-ups): 25
• Warm-up sets: 11
• Working sets: 14

 

[LevButlerov]

Back / Chest / Shoulders​

---

Seated Cable Row – Bar Wide Grip​

• Warm-up: 6.25 kg × 10
• Set 1: 10 kg × 10
• Set 2: 27.5 kg × 10
• Set 3: 23.75 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (1 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Lateral Raise (Dumbbell)​

• Warm-up: 2 kg × 12
• Warm-up: 4 kg × 12
• Set 1: 8 kg × 12
• Set 2: 6 kg × 12

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Chest Fly (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 19 kg × 8
• Warm-up: 33 kg × 8
• Set 1: 61 kg × 8
• Set 2: 56.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Iso-Lateral High Row (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 20 lbs × 8
• Warm-up: 30 lbs × 8
• Set 1: 70 lbs × 10
• Set 2: 60 lbs × 7

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Seated Shoulder Press (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 10 kg × 10
• Warm-up: 15 kg × 8
• Set 1: 34.5 kg × 10
• Set 2: 27.5 kg × 10

Total sets: 4 (2 warm-up + 2 working)

---

Incline Chest Press (Machine)​

• Warm-up: 9.07 kg × 10
• Warm-up: 13.61 kg × 10
• Set 1: 27.22 kg × 10
• Set 2: 31.75 kg × 10
• Set 3: 36.29 kg × 10

Total sets: 5 (2 warm-up + 3 working)

---

Quick Summary​

• Total exercises: 6
• Total sets (including warm-ups): 25
• Warm-up sets: 11
• Working sets: 14

strong but where is this from?

 

[R3DUB]

we get red flags due to ai use here @R3DUB but this is input how? please paste what you input into the chat box I'm curious

I posted screenshots of my workouts logs tracked in the Hevy app and asked it to compile the info into text format. I'll attach the same screenshots

 

[LevButlerov]

I posted screenshots of my workouts logs tracked in the Hevy app and asked it to compile the info into text format. I'll attach the same screenshots

this is perfect please attach the images when you post the text

 

[R3DUB]

Previous arm workout

 

[R3DUB]

this is perfect please attach the images when you post the text

Will do in future

 

[LevButlerov]

Will do in future

perfect

 

[LevButlerov]

Previous arm workout

add some 15 rep sets please

 

[R3DUB]

So I received the bulk of my blood tests back (minus growth hormones stuff, apparently that takes a few days) but feel free to peruse and critique it. A lot of it doesn't make sense to me, but I'm assuming red numbers=bad, and my testosterone numbers seem concerning?

@LevButlerov thoughts?

 

[R3DUB]

Finally received my IGF-1 results, guess the tesa has been doing something

 

[toddthelineman]

First: awesome job dude! You really did it.

I would like to lose some more weight around the love handles and lower stomach still,

Idk about that, I think you’d do well to add muscle. You’re very thin. If you add muscle you’ll never even think about the weight there, and it may very well go away on its own without further starving yourself

I tend to keep it as simple as possible. High protein yogurt with rolled oats mixed in for breakfast pretty much every day, a good meat protein source with potatos/sweet potatoes for lunchs (meal prepped and frozen for work) and dinner is usually a meat protein source, green veg and quinoa.

Good food.

Calcium and Vitamin D- 2x daily (because I don't consume a lot of dairy, gotta avoid that osteroporosis!)

Your bones also need stimulus, like muscles, to retain nutrients. Heavy lifting, high impacts, that’s what does it.

can't run cause of crook knees).

Maybe this is something you can improve!

right shoulder has given me trouble for years due to an injury that happened in my late 20's that never properly healed.

I lady friend of mine had a bad shoulder for years. She couldn’t do pull-ups, but she’s quite strong. I convinced her to try bpc157. It worked! And it stayed fixed. This was years ago

introduced DSIP

I was a bit disappointed in this. I think perhaps something more important was missing for me. But others have had success

don't have much interested in running anything harder as I'm not looking to get much bigger, just leaner and a bit more shredded.

Wwweeeeelllllll. I said this too. I think you might change your mind

I've always been a bit wary of stuff like that cause I think 'GH is kinda like gear'

Also was quite wary. Now I’m a cheerleader. I’ve been on and off of it a handful of times. I’ve also taken too much and had to correct myself. It wasn’t a big deal

minimum 1800 cal a day,

This certainly got you where you are today, and that’s awesome. But it’s nowhere near enough and you will need more. Not maybe

magnesium glysinate capsules before bed, and I think that's played a big role in it

Love it! There’s other good ones that will work like just simple glycine.

week two now of the GHK

I missed the dose. Curious. I ran it solo before and it is great for the skin (I’m pretty weathered) but the bruising was pretty intense hahaha

At 80 a week, I'm wondering if I'd get more out of a low-mid dose of HGH instead

I never ran tesamorelin but I’ll bet you get a lot more bang for your buck with HGH.

plan on getting my bloods done at the end of week 8 of tesa

I see them. What do you think is causing the high liver enzymes? Those usually improve dramatically with Reta. I would address this by any means. Injectable glutathione has worked for me. Also amazing for your skin.

I often shy people away from trt and steroid cycles, or at very least try to make them think about it in ways they wouldn’t have if I didn’t give them a different perspective. I think you’re a pretty good candidate. Possibly you could get your numbers improved. Well. Almost definitely. But how much? And how long will it take? I am confident that the improvements you’ve enjoyed from peptides would be blown away by a healthy trt protocol. Want strong bones? It will do that. Want to be leaner? Adding muscle without gaining fat literally makes you a leaner person, and it does more than that. Want to hold onto the nutrients you eat in a positive rather than negative way? Again, it can do that. Less creaky joints? Worked for me!

I’m not a testosterone salesman hahaha. But for sure, however you get those numbers into the upper healthy range, you’re going to feel better in every way. Of course you will!

What are the odds that your job is poisoning you? Not zero.

 

[R3DUB]

First: awesome job dude! You really did it.

Idk about that, I think you’d do well to add muscle. You’re very thin. If you add muscle you’ll never even think about the weight there, and it may very well go away on its own without further starving yourself

Good food.

Your bones also need stimulus, like muscles, to retain nutrients. Heavy lifting, high impacts, that’s what does it.

Maybe this is something you can improve!

I lady friend of mine had a bad shoulder for years. She couldn’t do pull-ups, but she’s quite strong. I convinced her to try bpc157. It worked! And it stayed fixed. This was years ago

I was a bit disappointed in this. I think perhaps something more important was missing for me. But others have had success

Wwweeeeelllllll. I said this too. I think you might change your mind

Also was quite wary. Now I’m a cheerleader. I’ve been on and off of it a handful of times. I’ve also taken too much and had to correct myself. It wasn’t a big deal

This certainly got you where you are today, and that’s awesome. But it’s nowhere near enough and you will need more. Not maybe

Love it! There’s other good ones that will work like just simple glycine.

I missed the dose. Curious. I ran it solo before and it is great for the skin (I’m pretty weathered) but the bruising was pretty intense hahaha

I never ran tesamorelin but I’ll bet you get a lot more bang for your buck with HGH.

I see them. What do you think is causing the high liver enzymes? Those usually improve dramatically with Reta. I would address this by any means. Injectable glutathione has worked for me. Also amazing for your skin.

I often shy people away from trt and steroid cycles, or at very least try to make them think about it in ways they wouldn’t have if I didn’t give them a different perspective. I think you’re a pretty good candidate. Possibly you could get your numbers improved. Well. Almost definitely. But how much? And how long will it take? I am confident that the improvements you’ve enjoyed from peptides would be blown away by a healthy trt protocol. Want strong bones? It will do that? Want to be leaner? Adding muscle without gaining fat literally makes you a leaner person, and it does more than that. Want to hold onto the nutrients you eat in a positive rather than negative way? Again, it can do that. Less creaky joints? Worked for me!

I’m not a testosterone salesman hahaha. But for sure, however you get those numbers into the upper healthy range, you’re going to feel better in every way. Of course you will!

What are the odds that your job is poisoning you? Not zero.

Hey @toddthelineman thanks for such an extensive response! I'll try to cover everything you've addressed, apologies if I miss anything.

In terms of calories, weight loss and muscle building, I 100% agree, I've increased my calories intake to about 2100-2200 a day, aiming for at least 210g protein which I'm consistently hitting. My weight hasn't gone up substantially so I'm not worried about putting on too much fat, just looking to add some muscle. I've pretty much cycled off the reta entirely (0.5g a week) and my appetite has totally returned so I'm not struggling to get the food in!

Im doing heavy lifting 5 days a week with two days of cardio, so my bones should be getting plenty of stimulus, haha!

The dodgy knee, it only gives me grief if I pound pavement, and on a daily basis it's not an issue. I have been running tb500 and bpc157, actually for a tendon issue that's flared up in the connection between left bicep and forearm, and it's been helping a lot, but it has (I believe) raised my haematocrit level too high (too much red blood cells) which the TRT doctor flagged in my most recent blood test, which I'll address shortly.

The GHK for me so far has done nothing, haha! I started it in the hopes of hair regrowth, but I haven't even seen any difference in my skin personally, and it leaves nasty red welts at the injection points for multiple days, so I don't know whether to continue it or not. I don't really care what my skin or hair looks like, I was just curious to see what it could accomplish. I'll see how I feel about it.

The tesa has definitely helped in the growth hormones side of things, as evidence in my IGF-1 levels (see my last post). Again, probably done with it for now, will reiterate a bit later

The high liver enzymes, I have no clue what the cause of this is, but I will be bringing it up with my doc asap, along with the haematocrit levels.

Now to sorta put it all together: I have had a second blood test as requested by the TRT clinic to pick up the missing information they required (I'll attach those photos to this post) and the test levels were roughly the same, still very low. They said I would be a good candidate for it, I have a consult with them in the next day or two. Their concern about my haematocrit levels are very valid, and I will be discussing this with them as trt will raise those levels again, which isn't good. They said in their email that giving blood regularly may help bring them down which is fine. I've also had high iron levels in the past so that may also play a factor in it, again will be asking about that during the consult.

In the meantime, I plan on stopping all peptides so if I do get approved for TRT, that will all I'll be running for the foreseeable future, then regular blood tests to see how my body settles into just that. I think it I do choose to get back on anything, it would just be HGH, but again I'll wait to see how my body goes with just T, it might be all I need.

Hopefully that answers all your queries mate!

Oh the job poisoning me? I dunno about that, I mostly just manage now and have very little to do with painting. Pre existing damage possibly?

 

[LevButlerov]

Finally received my IGF-1 results, guess the tesa has been doing something

what dose of tesamorelin is this on? @R3DUB

 

[R3DUB]

what dose of tesamorelin is this on? @R3DUB

Hey mate, I was running 2mg/day 5 on/2 off, so 10mg a week

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey mate, I was running 2mg/day 5 on/2 off, so 10mg a week

not bad at all

 

[R3DUB]

So a little update: I have been approved for TRT! Already got my first prescription, so will be starting this weekend for now, I'll be hopping off all peptides (besides GHK) so I can see how I feel with just the T, but I'm pretty excited to see how it goes!

My dosage will be 100mg a week, split over two doses

 

[Kopite67]

So a little update: I have been approved for TRT! Already got my first prescription, so will be starting this weekend for now, I'll be hopping off all peptides (besides GHK) so I can see how I feel with just the T, but I'm pretty excited to see how it goes!

My dosage will be 100mg a week, split over two doses

Congrats brother

 

[LevButlerov]

So a little update: I have been approved for TRT! Already got my first prescription, so will be starting this weekend for now, I'll be hopping off all peptides (besides GHK) so I can see how I feel with just the T, but I'm pretty excited to see how it goes!

My dosage will be 100mg a week, split over two doses

lets get some TD pics of the TRT vials @R3DUB

 

[R3DUB]

lets get some TD pics of the TRT vials @R3DUB

Will do tonight brother

 

[LevButlerov]

Will do tonight brother

perfect

 

[R3DUB]

TD on my test and injection kit! Apologies for the delay on this post, this has been a fuck around with GPs, the clinic, etc. but we are good to go from Wednesday

 

[LevButlerov]

TD on my test and injection kit! Apologies for the delay on this post, this has been a fuck around with GPs, the clinic, etc. but we are good to go from Wednesday

nice TRT test!